[00:34] <abusski> i want to be help with hfc banklogin
[00:35] <abusski> i want to be help with hfc banklogin
[00:37] <ubuntu> wtf is your problem
[00:38] <abusski> i want to be help with hfc banklogin
[00:40] <abusski> i want to know know to break western union account
[00:41] <abusski> i want to know know to break western union account
[00:43] <abusski> please some shold help me
[00:47] <abusski> iwant a help to find which site i can used this email address to check my account,this is the email address cpfister@hickoryafc.com
[00:58] <abusski> want a help to find which site i can used this email address to check my account,this is the email address cpfister@hickoryafc.com
[00:58] <abusski> want a help to find which site i can used this email address to check my account,this is the email address cpfister@hickoryafc.com
[00:59] <abusski> want a help to find which site i can used this email address to check my account,this is the email address cpfister@hickoryafc.com
[01:03] <abusski> want a help to find which site i can used this email address to check my account,this is the email address cpfister@hickoryafc.com
[01:03] <abusski> want a help to find which site i can used this email address to check my account,this is the email address cpfister@hickoryafc.com
[01:03] <FloodBotK1> abusski: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:03] <ubuntu> .
[01:04] <abusski> okay
[01:04] <abusski> want a help to find which site i can used this email address to check my account,this is the email address cpfister@hickoryafc.com
[01:06] <abusski> i want help on what i said
[01:10] <u19809> hi all, I am using kate in kubuntu 10.10 and sometimes my keyboard is really lagging behind.  What could be the reason.  Also my gui sometimes has hickups
[01:10] <kernelpanic__> hi all
[01:18] <Macer> dell sucks.. i was trying to get a fujitsu snapscan so i could scan in kubuntu and the order wouldnt go through
[01:18] <Macer> and they said a rep would call and they didnt
[01:18] <Macer> lamers
[01:19] <ikonia> how is that anything to do with kubuntu ?
[01:19] <Macer> nothing :) but still. there arent many cheaper scanners that work in it i suppose
[01:20] <ikonia> Macer: ok, so if it's nothing to do with kubuntu, it's offtopic for this channel, so please don't discuss it
[01:20] <Macer> er. guess the relationship between scanners that work in kubuntu is not enough?
[01:21] <ikonia> you're not discussing that
[01:21] <ikonia> you're just moaning about dell
[01:21] <Macer> uhm. ok.
[01:21] <ikonia> and being insulting about them, which is nothing to do with kubuntu
[01:22] <Macer> but the scanner part does ... but meh.
[01:22] <ikonia> Macer: you're not talking about scanners, your just moaning about dell and being insulting about htem
[01:22] <ikonia> feel free to talk about scanners in kubuntu though
[01:22] <Macer> maybe i can get a good hp on amazon.. but checking the sane list for every scanner
[01:23] <Macer> i just dont want to go over $450.. but a lot of them are unsupported by sane
[01:23] <ikonia> Macer: this has nothing to do with kubuntu
[01:23] <Macer> especially the cheaper ones
[01:23] <ikonia> Macer: this is a support channel
[01:23] <Macer> maybe someone else here is curious about scanners supported in kubuntu?
[01:23] <ikonia> no
[01:24] <ikonia> and you're not talking about supported scanners, your just listeing of shops and your price limitations
[01:24] <ikonia> this is a support channel
[01:24] <ikonia> do you have a support question
[01:25] <Macer> yes. does kubuntu have an irc asshole light widget? i have seen plenty of non support conversations in here. so is it just russian roulette on what jerk is here at the time?
[01:25] <Macer> but ok. whatever.
[01:32] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[02:46] <suria> hye
[02:46] <suria> nice to meet you..
[03:50] <serenity> which ist the right channel to ask about problems with kde 4.6 rc?
[03:50] <serenity> kubuntu-devel?
[03:52] <well_laid_lawn> you could try in here but be patient
[03:53] <serenity> it's about the kubuntu beta backports ppa
[03:53] <serenity> i get curious errors when i try to update, seems it isn't ready to use yet
[03:55] <BloodyRain2k> hi, I still have trouble with my wlan, I'm neither with wicd nor with the normal preinstalled network manager able to connect to any network they find, NM simply does nothing when I click a network and wicd says always bad password, even though I checked it multiple times and tried the 2 different wpa encryptions it offered. Any one got an idea what I can do?
[03:59] <tobar> what's the quick way to go offline -- not make the browser offline, but the whole computer. Unclicking "enable networking" from the panel doesn't work.
[04:00] <well_laid_lawn> in konsole try   sudo service networking stop   maybe
[04:01] <tobar> um, nope.
[04:02] <tobar> seems there should be an easy click to do it (like in gnome) but I can't find it.
[04:04] <tobar> sudo service networking stop --> stop: Unknown instance:
[04:06] <well_laid_lawn> try network instead of networking maybe
[04:07] <tobar> it is "networking", and without "stop" gives usage summary "Usage: /etc/init.d/networking {start|stop|restart|force-reload}
[04:08] <well_laid_lawn> ok try to stop NetworkManager the same way - it is not something I have played with
[04:16] <tobar> sudo ifconfig eth0 [ down | up ]
[04:37] <BloodyRain2k> anyone mind giving my problem a thought? I just installed that kubuntu 10.10 a few days ago and the network connecting worked one time, and since then I'm unable to connect to any wireless network >_<
[04:53] <harolddong> what is the deal with the 4.6 rc update.  I ran the update and it uninstall a ton of important (konsole, kpackagekit, etc) while updating others without giving any errors.  I think I managed to track down what was causing the problem and I believe it is that the update was looking for libpolkit-qt-1-1 but only libpolkit-qt-1-0 is available in the repo.
[04:54] <harolddong> so I don't think the update was actually ready even though it was posted on kubuntu.org
[05:03] <surunveri> hi
[05:03] <surunveri> ktorrent fails to start it returns error 'segmentation fault'
[05:03] <surunveri> any ideas?:D
[05:06] <surunveri> or rather it says we are sorry. ktorrent closed unexpectedly but in the details section at bottom it says
[05:06] <surunveri> executable: ktorrent pid 7927 signal 11 (segmentation fault)
[05:06] <surunveri> so is there a way to reistall ktorrent or something?
[05:07] <BloodyRain2k> just as suggestion as I'm not very familiar with linux at all, tried uninstalling it over a packagemanager and reinstalling it? maybe that could work
[05:07] <well_laid_lawn> sudo apt-get --purge remove ktorrent && sudo apt-get install ktorrent if it doesn't want to take all of kde with it
[05:08] <well_laid_lawn> sudo apt-get reinstall ktorrent if it does want to take kde with it
[05:09] <surunveri> it says invalid operation reinstall
[05:09] <surunveri> yea im not very familair with linux either but tbh it's a disappointment :D
[05:12] <surunveri> hmm it says something about broken packages
[05:13] <surunveri> http://pastebin.com/7zN9QbNN
[05:13] <well_laid_lawn> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -f   should fix that
[05:14] <surunveri> hmm didnt :D
[05:14] <well_laid_lawn> surunveri: which kde are you using
[05:14] <surunveri> kubuntu 10.04
[05:15] <surunveri> idk the kde that came with it
[05:15] <well_laid_lawn> kde version
[05:15] <well_laid_lawn> you don't use a ppa for the newer kde?
[05:15] <GabrielYYZ> surunveri: you're set on using ktorrent? or would you consider another torrent client?
[05:16] <surunveri> well
[05:16] <surunveri> it just stopped working pretty much on it's own
[05:16] <surunveri> so there's like unfinished downloads
[05:16] <surunveri> but no im no set using it otherwise :D
[05:17] <GabrielYYZ> if you can't get that to work, give qbittorrent a try
[05:18] <surunveri> yeah
[05:19] <surunveri> ahh this stuff kind of makes me wish i could just change back to xp somehow
[05:19] <surunveri> .D
[05:19] <well_laid_lawn> you need to fix your packaging too
[05:19] <well_laid_lawn> you've done something not right
[05:19] <surunveri> during the 6months i've used kubuntu i've had more trouble than i ever had with xp with programs not working and everything not working
[05:19] <surunveri> i dont think i've done anything wrong because
[05:19] <surunveri> this problem appeared on it's own
[05:20] <surunveri> unless it was an automatic update that caused it i dont think i've made any modifications
[05:21] <GabrielYYZ> try adding the kubuntu ppa "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa"
[05:21] <GabrielYYZ> and then "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -f"
[05:22] <GabrielYYZ> *without quotes*
[05:22] <surunveri> kk
[05:22] <surunveri> 0,0,0 and 137 not upgraded it says
[05:23] <surunveri> and some packages that are no longer needed
[05:23] <surunveri> which of one is libktorrent btw
[05:24] <GabrielYYZ> that's after adding the repository, updating sources and install -f?
[05:24] <surunveri> but yeah
[05:24] <surunveri> yeah
[05:24] <well_laid_lawn> you were getting version mismatches from that error you pasted
[05:24] <GabrielYYZ> i don't remember, but i think ktorrent didn't work for me when i tried installing it
[05:24] <GabrielYYZ> it was that or i didn't like it, but i can't remember right now
[05:25] <surunveri> ok well idk
[05:25] <GabrielYYZ> ktorrent needs libktorrent-l10n and libktorrent2 when i try to install it
[05:26] <surunveri> so
[05:26] <surunveri> what exactly is going on then?
[05:26] <surunveri> :D
[05:26] <surunveri> there was a system update and it caused a version mismatch is that what u r saying?
[05:27] <GabrielYYZ> the pastebin you posted up there, was it the output of a system update?
[05:27] <surunveri> no it was for trying to install ktorrent
[05:27] <GabrielYYZ> ah never mind, had a 2nd look
[05:27] <surunveri> originally it was what i got from trying what lawn said
[05:27] <surunveri> but then i just tried install ktorrent and itw as the same result
[05:27] <surunveri> so i thought i'll just paste that
[05:28] <well_laid_lawn> have you run   sudo apt-get update   just now?
[05:28] <surunveri> yeah because among the stuff youy said i should run it was
[05:29] <well_laid_lawn> k
[05:29] <GabrielYYZ> do "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and let us see the output on pastebin
[05:30] <GabrielYYZ> (or just tell us if "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu maverick main" is in your sources list
[05:30] <surunveri> http://pastebin.com/465zKQWP
[05:30] <surunveri> hmm
[05:31] <surunveri> apparently it isnt
[05:31] <GabrielYYZ> wait, no, i think it's not maverick main that you need :S me thinks it's backports
[05:32] <surunveri> but anyway
[05:32] <surunveri> in the future if there is a system update
[05:32] <surunveri> should i just avoid doing it to avoid problems like this?
[05:32] <ubuntu> testing kubunto on a new am3, it goes fast
[05:33] <well_laid_lawn> it wasn't the update or lots of ppl would have this issue
[05:33] <bochito> hello from spain
[05:33] <surunveri> or maybe it was
[05:33] <dasKreech> bochito: hi
[05:33] <GabrielYYZ> what i think is that we should solve this now, so that you can update without broken packages later
[05:34] <harolddong> if you're talking about the 4.6 rc update it seems to be all messed up because of libpolkit-qt-1-1 for me
[05:34] <bochito> cheers all and merry xmas from Tenerife/Spain
[05:34] <GabrielYYZ> feliz navidad bochito
[05:34] <bochito> amazing how linux has developed
[05:34] <bochito> gracias Gabriel
[05:35] <GabrielYYZ> surunveri, give me a second, i'm googling to see if i can get info on those backports thing
[05:35] <bochito> it loooks that kubuntu goes faster than gnome/ubuntu, am I right ?
[05:37] <GabrielYYZ> i'm kinda confused with this repository stuff, i think ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa should work fine to get the newer packages
[05:37] <GabrielYYZ> bochito: it does for me, yeah
[05:37] <surunveri> me too :D
[05:37] <surunveri>  am confused
[05:37] <bochito> it looks kubuntu requires less machine resources than the gnomic version
[05:38] <surunveri> it's also 7:40am and tomorrow is christmas eve.... :D
[05:38] <GabrielYYZ> you added the "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa" surunveri?
[05:38] <surunveri> yes
[05:38] <bochito> Suru: why are you touching things ? :P
[05:38] <surunveri> touching things?
[05:39] <bochito> you know, golne rule: if it works, dont touch it :P
[05:39] <bochito> golden
[05:39] <surunveri> yeah
[05:39] <GabrielYYZ> ok, the output (when you said "[01:22] <surunveri> 0,0,0 and 137 not upgraded it says" post it on pastebin please
[05:39] <surunveri> i didnt
[05:39] <surunveri> i did click apply on certan system updates though :P
[05:40] <surunveri> but i was under the impression they might not be terribly flawed which was probably wrong and i should've thought that if it works..
[05:40] <surunveri> dont break it :D
[05:40] <bochito> there you see Suru ... you may be touching the *dont touch* button :P
[05:41] <surunveri> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: linux-headers-2.6.32-26 libktorrent1 linux-headers-2.6.32-26-generic
[05:41] <surunveri> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[05:41] <surunveri> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 137 not upgraded.
[05:41] <surunveri> it wa sjust 3 liens so i pasted here
[05:41] <FloodBotK2> surunveri: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:41] <surunveri> *lines
[05:41] <bochito> Im running the latest kubuntu from the pen drive, what an amazing luxury!
[05:42] <bochito> is there any kubuntu oriented to scientific stuff ?
[05:43] <GabrielYYZ> surunveri: i'm hesitant to ask you to do an "apt-get upgrade" :S
[05:43] <surunveri> why are u hesitant?:D
[05:43] <bochito> :P
[05:43] <GabrielYYZ> if only batman was here... lol
[05:43] <surunveri> is that something i should do every now and then?
[05:44] <GabrielYYZ> usually kpackagekit asks you to update, but since you didn't have kubuntu's ppa, you didn't have the latest stuff
[05:44] <surunveri> yea and i was suipposed to know that how?
[05:44] <GabrielYYZ> that's why it says "137 not upgraded"
[05:45] <bochito> Suru: you need a punishment for what you did: read 10 times the latest Linux Bible :P
[05:45] <GabrielYYZ> surunveri: you weren't and that's the problem :S i added that ppa out of curiosity lol
[05:45] <surunveri> it would take me probably several hours to somehow get a better OS but i keep being under the delusion that this one is going to cause me less problems
[05:45] <surunveri> :D
[05:46] <surunveri> than what changing os in itself is
[05:46] <bochito> Suru: run the thing from a USB drive and you wont have any such problems, you upgrade the whole system whenever you like with cero problems
[05:47] <surunveri> yeah but
[05:47] <surunveri> the bios doesnt support usb boot
[05:47] <surunveri> :D
[05:47] <bochito> :P
[05:47] <surunveri> in anycase
[05:47] <surunveri> the only reason i have linux is that
[05:47] <surunveri> i used to have xp
[05:47] <surunveri> then my harddrive jsut died
[05:47] <FloodBotK2> surunveri: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:48] <bochito> I see
[05:48] <surunveri> i bought a junk hd, couldnt get xp from anywhere, went to library, loaned some antique linux book with a cd
[05:48] <surunveri> downloaded images for kubuntu, ubuntu and Zindows YP
[05:48] <surunveri> :DD
[05:49] <bochito> what a mess Suru :P
[05:49] <surunveri> well the ubuntu disc by coincidence, didnt work
[05:49] <surunveri> zindows yp did but the it was a bad copy and the software itself didnt work
[05:49] <surunveri> and so i was left with kubuntu
[05:49] <bochito> ask Santa for a new box :P
[05:49] <surunveri> and started thinking, i dont really do mcuh with my computer
[05:49] <surunveri> so i could jsut stick to this, it cant be too much trouble
[05:49] <surunveri> but seriously it has wasted much more time by now than what changing OS would've
[05:50] <surunveri> main problem is that wine doesnt work very well and since almsot all software is primarily aimed at windows, it's sometimes no available for linux
[05:50] <surunveri> after that comes all these weird ideas like having to do everything through terminal or command line
[05:50] <surunveri> and generally just not working, like audio
[05:50] <GabrielYYZ> surunveri: can you go in krunner > system > kinfo and check your kdesc version please?
[05:51] <surunveri> sure sorry for bitching
[05:51] <surunveri> :D
[05:51] <surunveri> you're just helping anyway
[05:51] <bochito> Suru: may be you've got a too old box
[05:51] <GabrielYYZ> oh no, don't worry, i'd bitch too if i was in your position :P
[05:51] <surunveri> yea i have a too old box.. but  it's software problems in anycase :D
[05:51] <surunveri> so what's krunenr then?
[05:52] <GabrielYYZ> system > kinfo and check the kde sc version
[05:52] <GabrielYYZ> applications > system > kinfo*
[05:52] <surunveri> hmm there isnt a kinfo there
[05:52] <bochito> maybe if you run an older version of slax or similar, it would run ok on an older box
[05:53] <GabrielYYZ> no info center? :S
[05:53] <surunveri> unless it's not really kinfo* but instead system monitor or someting like that? :D
[05:53] <GabrielYYZ> no, it should be kinfo or info center
[05:53] <surunveri> i cant find either in that menu
[05:53] <GabrielYYZ> or something about system information
[05:54] <GabrielYYZ> but not system monitor
[05:54] <surunveri> system logs viewer?
[05:54] <GabrielYYZ> hmm no, that wouldn't work, it doesn't say your version of kde sc there
[05:55] <bochito> Suru and Gabriel: where are you ?
[05:55] <GabrielYYZ> wow i'm lost :S that might be kde 4.2 or earlier
[05:55] <GabrielYYZ> bochito: i'm in Dominican Republic
[05:55] <bochito> oh, I see, Spanish speaking
[05:56] <GabrielYYZ> yep, i prefer english though xD
[05:56] <bochito> yes, I see
[05:56] <surunveri> im from finland
[05:56] <bochito> Suomi
[05:56] <bochito> :P
[05:56] <surunveri> land of drunken  idiots
[05:56] <surunveri> :D
[05:56] <bochito> land of Linus
[05:56] <surunveri> have a nice holiday, somewhere else
[05:56] <surunveri> :D
[05:57] <bochito> where in Finland, Suru ?
[05:57] <bochito> here we got a swed (Stefan)
[05:58] <bochito> from Helsinki Suru ?
[05:58] <GabrielYYZ> ah surunveri try "kde4-config --version" from the terminal
[05:58] <surunveri> not from helsinki
[05:58] <surunveri> kk
[05:58] <bochito> :P
[05:59] <surunveri> Qt: 4.6.3
[05:59] <surunveri> KDE Development Platform: 4.4.5 (KDE 4.4.5)
[05:59] <surunveri> kde4-config: 1.0
[05:59] <GabrielYYZ> good
[06:00] <GabrielYYZ> and you're running lucid 10.04 right?
[06:00] <surunveri> kubuntu 10.04 it's probably lucid ?:D
[06:01] <bochito> gentlemen, good night
[06:01] <bochito> thank you all
[06:01] <bochito> merry xmas to all
[06:01] <surunveri> merry xmas..
[06:02] <surunveri> which reminds me i took a melatonin pill 15 minutes ago so i should be goin to bed in 15minutes or so
[06:02] <surunveri> it's pretty sad having tot ake that 8am in the morning :--D
[06:02] <GabrielYYZ> merry xmas and night night
[06:02] <surunveri> i already tried sleeping though but couldnt and thought i'd try fix this ktorrent
[06:02] <surunveri> it stopped working yesterday that is
[06:03] <surunveri> btw!
[06:03] <surunveri> i forgot to meantion, it might be important
[06:04] <surunveri> in the original error message of ktorrent not working
[06:04] <surunveri> it said drkonirc is not writable
[06:04] <surunveri> and path to it
[06:04] <surunveri> so i changed permissions so that it is writable
[06:04] <surunveri> after that hte same error windowappeared but the message changed slightly
[06:05] <GabrielYYZ> i don't think that's important
[06:05] <surunveri> but i had not made any modifications to it being writable prior to it not working :D
[06:05] <surunveri> kk
[06:06] <GabrielYYZ> well, i'd say back up your date, do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" and, if that goes well, do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[06:07] <GabrielYYZ> that will get your system up to date and install kde sc 4.5.4
[06:08] <surunveri> so back up your date?
[06:08] <GabrielYYZ> but, if you're ok with how your system is right now (except the ktorrent thing) i'd say don't do it
[06:08] <surunveri> what do you mean by that
[06:08] <GabrielYYZ> data*
[06:08] <surunveri> oh
[06:08] <GabrielYYZ> typo lol
[06:08] <surunveri> yea well i dont have anything to back it up to right now :D
[06:09] <surunveri> so the solution is.. get another torrent program?
[06:09] <surunveri> (and click cancel on further system updates) :D
[06:09] <GabrielYYZ> well, you can do that and hope for the best, however you should get a kubuntu 10.10 iso just in case
[06:09] <GabrielYYZ> well, that's not the ideal way to do it, you will be limited later... but if it's not a problem to you, i'd say "go ahead"
[06:10] <surunveri> :D
[06:10] <surunveri> what i should do seriously speaking is to get a legal non-pirated copy of win xp :D
[06:10] <GabrielYYZ> i doubt other torrent client works though, they will require packages you don't have on your system (like with ktorrent)
[06:10] <surunveri> oh...
[06:10] <surunveri> so where did teh packages go?
[06:11] <surunveri> they must have been there yesterday :D
[06:12] <surunveri> so.. it just doesnt work anymore?
[06:12] <GabrielYYZ> this is me guessing: the applications you're installing are the latest ones, but your system is not up to date, so any install fails
[06:12] <surunveri> yeah but
[06:12] <surunveri> i had ktorrent before
[06:12] <surunveri> it worked and then it stopped working
[06:12] <surunveri> so i didnt install that in between
[06:12] <surunveri> :D
[06:12] <GabrielYYZ> you said you installed some updates, no?
[06:13] <surunveri> yes
[06:13] <surunveri> autoamtic system updates... =/
[06:13] <surunveri> well i had the choice not to
[06:13] <surunveri> apply them
[06:13] <surunveri> but since im not following how secure kubuntu is
[06:13] <surunveri> im just updating them
[06:14] <surunveri> unlike with windows i did my best not to update anything :D
[06:14] <GabrielYYZ> i think i know why, but, honestly, i'm confused
[06:14] <surunveri> hmm why so?
[06:15] <GabrielYYZ> well, for one, i knew about PPAs from when i used ubuntu 10.04 and when i installed kubuntu i saw few packages were getting updates and i searched for a fix
[06:15] <GabrielYYZ> and found the ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa, added it and everything worked fine
[06:16] <GabrielYYZ> but i'm not sure how to go about updating lucid lynx right now without breaking stuff
[06:16] <surunveri> yeah...
[06:16] <surunveri> so it's troublesome
[06:16] <surunveri> and not working.. :D
[06:16] <surunveri> surprise!
[06:16] <surunveri> ahh
[06:16] <FloodBotK2> surunveri: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:16] <surunveri> which also just wasted 75 minutes of your time and mine
[06:16] <surunveri> and still there isnt a solution
[06:16] <GabrielYYZ> if you lived near me, i'd give you my win xp cd, i don't really use it
[06:17] <surunveri> that'd be nice. :D
[06:17] <GabrielYYZ> nah, it isn't a waste for me, it's a learning experience
[06:17] <GabrielYYZ> it'd be cool if someone more experienced could chime in though
[06:20] <GabrielYYZ> anyways, i'm gonna go to bed, it's late for me and today's a busy day
[06:20] <surunveri> me too..
[06:20] <surunveri> thx for help and good night
[06:20] <GabrielYYZ> sorry i couldn't help more :S
[06:21] <GabrielYYZ> thanks, good night to you too
[06:36] <BloodyRain2k> anyone wanna help me with my wlan problem? I recently installed kubuntu 10.10 because I wrecked my 10.04 because of the same problem: not being able to connect to detected wireless networks. After installing it it worked once and stopped working after that. I already tried Wicd but that didn't work either, only says always bad password.
[06:53] <kadoban> anyone know how to get ibus to work with gtk apps?
[07:10] <BloodyRain2k> *sigh* no luck getting help, well gonna head to bed, if anyone should come back here and read up and have an idea, drop it to me in a query please, night guys
[07:20] <rethus> ho ho ho hello @ all
[07:21] <rethus> how can i easyly make a upgrade from 10.04 LTS to the newest distribution-Version?
[07:22] <rethus> only choose in kpackagemanager set "Updates >> Schow new distribution releases" switch to "Normal Releases"
[07:22] <rethus> or have i to add some repositories?
[07:23] <rethus> try instead of ask :D have found it out on my own
[07:23] <harolddong> has anybody successfully upgraded t0 4.6 rc?
[07:24] <rethus> which is the default version of kde in Maverick?
[07:25] <Tm_T> rethus: 4.5.x
[07:25] <rethus> k, tahnaks... hope in 4.5 kaddress is on feature-state like kde3.5
[07:26] <Tm_T> rethus: kaddressbook is on 4.4 there
[07:27] <rethus> i was such disapointet as they remove all this usable features... I've read even linus Torvalds change from kde to gnome, cause the early kde4 versions sucks
[07:27] <Tm_T> KDEPIM has been on a bit different version cycle lately
[07:27] <rethus> hope they come back up to old fitnesslevel very soon
[07:27] <Tm_T> rethus: also the old "kde4 ranting" wont do any good so better leave it out here
[07:30] <rethus> i don't wan't to blame kde... but if noone ever say anything, everyone think its ok.
[07:30] <Tm_T> rethus: the discussion was done years ago
[07:30] <rethus> i realy like kde, but i'm aware of his "suboptimal" moves :)
[07:31] <rethus> i'm glad to see, that kde comes back up ... slowly, but it comes back, and thats realy nice for me
[07:31] <Tm_T> anyway, enough of this offtopic discussion let's continue in #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:33] <rethus> anyway, thanks for information and have a nice day...
[07:33] <rethus> did you have such much snow too?
[07:34] <rethus> have snow shoveling nearly 1 hour
[07:35] <Tm_T> only 40 cm here, with -30 °C temp (really, #kubuntu-offtopic is more suitable for this)
[07:35] <rethus> k
[07:36] <rethus> even if here is not much traffic ;)
[07:37] <Tm_T> even then (:
[07:40] <rethus> k, ontoppic: i've try to upgrade to maveric via kpackage-manager
[07:41] <rethus> i got the error: kubuntu-desktop could not marked to update
[07:41] <Tm_T> rethus: you should use do-release-upgrade
[07:41] <rethus> this could cause by: Upgrade to pre-release Version
[07:42] <Tm_T> or how it was, hmm
[07:42] <Tm_T> !upgrade
[07:43] <rethus> ok. cause i've used a pre-release (i've upgrade kde to kde4.5 )
[07:46] <rethus> http://pastebin.com/i4ZCeX4A
[07:46] <rethus> this the errorlog for upgrading (apt.log)
[07:46] <rethus> may i do a downgrade of kde before?
[07:47] <Tm_T> rethus: shouldn't be required, see the links ubottu gave above
[07:50] <rethus> i've done such way, and send you the output of sudo do-release-upgrade
[07:53] <Tm_T> hmmm, then I don't know
[07:53] <Tm_T> rethus: you might like to see if forums have answers
[08:17] <Guest13052> Hi, I've got a question about 4.6rc1 - is this the right place to ask it?
[09:36] <pingupingu> ohaiyo
[09:37] <pingupingu> any one installed kde 4.6 RC1?
[09:37] <pingupingu> on 10.10
[09:38] <pingupingu> nom nom nom
[09:51] <pingupingu> 4.6RC1 10.10 kubuntuer's beware of bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/694053
[09:51] <pingupingu> so hold off until packages are fixed
[09:54] <jlaamanen> too late :)
[09:54] <ggeorgy> hi
[09:54] <jlaamanen> already b0rked mine
[09:54] <pingupingu> lol
[09:55] <pingupingu> damn i borked mine too :( and no kde desktop sux bad
[09:55] <pingupingu> well atleast the bug report is seeing some activity on launchpad
[09:55] <jlaamanen> yup
[09:56] <pingupingu> i am almost hitting F5 every few seconds to see if its resolved
[09:57] <ggeorgy> i try to copy video on my phone and not work
[09:57] <freinhard> can someone give me one advantage of pulseaudio to regular users, that one expieriences in everyday usage?
[09:58] <well_laid_lawn> freinhard: it is for ppl with multiple sound devices
[09:58] <pingupingu> freinhard, if it works, just use it, else install alsa
[09:59] <freinhard> pingupingu: that's why i was asking: because it didn't work with linphone and ekiga, removed in the end
[09:59] <pingupingu> :) quite happy with alsa
[09:59] <freinhard> same same
[10:01] <freinhard> well_laid_lawn: the thing is, i got multiple audio interfaces and alsa wokrs
[10:02] <freinhard> well_laid_lawn: onboard sound for music etc and a usb-headset for telephony
[10:02] <ubuntu> hi
[10:02] <well_laid_lawn> cool :) I see no use in pulse myself
[10:02] <ubuntu> its nice to use ubuntu
[10:02] <ubuntu> so cool with kde :)
[10:03] <pingupingu> well its usually, mucking around with pulse and if i cant get it to work in same amount of time, tis time to install alsa
[10:03] <pingupingu> s/same/sane/
[10:04] <ubuntu> how i can get wine in kubuntu guys ?
[10:04] <freinhard> ubuntu: install it?
[10:04] <pingupingu> apt-get install wine
[10:04] <freinhard> i struggled 2hours with different SIP phones which just didn't want to use any microphone
[10:04] <ubuntu> thanks i`ll try it now
[10:05] <freinhard> besides skype did manage to use the builtin mic through pulse
[10:05] <freinhard> so i guess all the hassle is because of non proper support of pulse within the applications?
[10:06] <freinhard> and: kmix is pretty useless with pulseaudio
[10:08] <pingupingu> freinhard, 4.6 should be good with pulse for kmix
[10:12] <jlaamanen> ah, got 4.6 RC1 to work
[10:12] <pingupingu> ahem how?
[10:13] <jlaamanen> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/60434248/libpolkit-qt-1-1_0.99.0-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[10:13] <jlaamanen> first I removed libpolkit-qt-1-0
[10:13] <pingupingu> to bad i need i686 packages
[10:14] <jlaamanen> you can find those as well
[10:14] <freinhard> rc1 is already in a ppa?
[10:14] <pingupingu> yeah freinhard
[10:14] <jlaamanen> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/60437375/libpolkit-qt-1-1_0.99.0-0ubuntu3_amd64.deb
[10:16] <jlaamanen> after that, just install kubuntu-desktop and you should be fine
[10:17] <pingupingu> jlaamanen, is there a -dev version to that ?
[10:19] <jlaamanen> pingupingu: notice that these are natty's packages
[10:19] <jlaamanen> pingupingu: I think there should be -dev version as well
[10:19] <jlaamanen> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+search?text=libpolkit
[10:20] <jlaamanen> blah, ssh-agent still not working properly
[10:21] <pingupingu> kool, but any ideas on how i can reinstall all the stuff that was uninstalled before borking kde 4.6 rc1?
[10:22] <pingupingu> also jlaamanen if you have launchpad account please post workaround for the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/694053
[10:22] <pingupingu> :)
[10:33] <pingupingu> also needed to get the libgpg-error package
[10:37] <pingupingu> wow finally managed to install all the content that was uninstalled
[10:46] <jlaamanen> anyone has idea, why ssh-agent isn't started automatically?
[11:06] <pilulap> Hi all. I just installed a kubuntu on my computer but grphic effects are very slow, I suppose the graphic drivers to be missing. How should I install them ?
[11:07] <rork> pilulap: you can install them trough "Hardware drivers" which you can find in kickoff (probably under System)
[11:09] <rork> pilulap: if you're using 10.10 and have an old nvidia graphics card graphics might break though.
[11:10] <pilulap> rork: I have 10.10 but an ATI card.
[11:11] <pilulap> Radeon HD 5450
[11:11] <pilulap> I'm looking in system settings but I don't find anything thay may match my needs ...
[11:13] <rork> pilulap: it's not under System Settings, it's a separate program, you can also type the name in the kickoff searchbar.
[11:14] <pilulap> rork: Well There nothing like that in the kickoff menu ...
[11:15] <pilulap> rork: Ok never mind I found it :)
[11:16] <rork> pilulap: nice, can you share where you found it?
[11:16] <pilulap> I used the search tool in kickoff with 'driver' keyword
[11:16] <rethus> which kde version is default for maverick?
[11:18] <pilulap> rork: But it is in kickoff->application->system->additional driver
[11:18] <pilulap> rork: Or something like that (I'm translating from french)
[11:19] <rork> pilulap: true, they renamed it
[11:20] <rethus> which kde version is default for maverick?
[11:22] <rethus> can someone try kde4-config --version and post here ?
[12:21] <ohmy> hi
[12:21] <ohmy> i'm using kubuntu 10.10 and happy with it
[12:21] <ohmy> one problem i have is full screen opengl applications, when i run glxgeers -fullscreen i can see kde bar
[12:22] <ohmy> its not really true fullscreen, anyone have the same issue ?
[12:43] <hellojones> hi Ich habe gerade etwas kompiliert innerhalb von /usr/src/xbmc jetzt nimmt das natürlich alles viel platz weg. ist es möglich alle anderen dateien außer der makefile zu löschen und danach trotzdem noch make uninstall laufen zu lassen?
[12:51] <rork> !de | hellojones
[12:52] <hellojones> hi, I just compiled a program within /usr/src/xbmc which takes a lot of disk space. Is it possible to delete all files inside this folder except the makefile and still do a sudo make uninstall, if necessary?
[13:00] <ztiquetqe> Ive got infinite kdm login loop
[13:00] <ztiquetqe> any help ?
[13:03] <freinhard> hellojones: use /usr/local/whatever as prefix, then you can just delete that single folder
[13:04] <freinhard> hellojones: should work™, no guarantee ;)
[13:04] <freinhard> did anyone install 4.6 from beta backports on maverick?
[13:05] <hellojones> freinhard I would like to keep the installed binary but just delete the sources
[13:06] <speedvin> Hello!
[13:17] <freinhard> hellojones: sure, but, as you wrote, you'd still like to be able to do a make uninstall. if you did, as i wrote, you'd replace the make uninstall by rm /usr/local/xbmc/
[13:17] <hellojones> I  see
[13:18] <hellojones> thanks
[13:20] <bastian> hi ive one question ive installed a netbook version of kubuntu 10.04 then ive upgradet it to 10.10 and now i cant change from netbook to desktop... can anyone help me pleace
[13:21] <speedvin> bastian: is plasma-destkop installed?
[13:21] <bastian> so how can i install plasma desktop?
[13:21] <bastian> no*
[13:21] <speedvin> bastian: then install it ;)
[13:24] <bastian> how can i install itß
[13:25] <speedvin> bastian: open konsole and write sudo apt-get install plasma-desktop ;)
[13:26] <bastian> thanks a lot :)
[13:28] <speedvin> bastian: no problem ;)
[13:28] <speedvin> bastian: it's working now?
[13:29] <bastian> its in progress to install
[14:37] <shane4ubuntu> ok, the other day I was using bluetooth fine, now it won't even pick up my adapter???
[14:38] <shane4ubuntu> any thoughts?  Ideas?
[14:42] <shane4ubuntu> ugg, nevermind, got it
[15:25] <pilulap> Hi all. I tried to install google earth on my new kubuntu and I finally succeed. Unfortunately now, I'm not able to start it I have the message "exec: 19: ./googleearth-bin: not found
[15:25] <pilulap> in the terminal
[15:26] <pilulap> But it is in /opt/google-earth/googleearth-bin
[15:26] <speedvin> then try exec /opt/google-eartg/googleearth-bin
[15:28] <pilulap> speedvin: I tried but it said bash: /opt/google-earth/googleearth-bin: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type
[15:28] <pilulap> It mean No such file or directory :)
[15:29] <speedvin> pilulap: then your directory is wrong ;)
[15:30] <pilulap> speedvin: It is not and I have execution rights ... (tested with ls -l)
[15:42] <iconmefisto> pilulap: how did you install it? was it a deb file?
[15:42] <pilulap> iconmefisto: no I didn't find the deb package so I used the installer from google website
[15:42] <pilulap> But could someone explain me this : http://pastebin.com/tPsUb0RS
[15:43] <iconmefisto> pilulap: http://www.google.com/earth/download/ge/agree.html there's a deb package there
[15:43] <pilulap> Thi binary is present and have execution permission, bash can complete the command BUT there is this silly message :(
[15:43] <pilulap> iconmefisto: ok I'll use it thanks.
[15:43] <pilulap> But that didn't explain that aberation !!
[15:46] <iconmefisto> pilulap: did you try starting it with googleearth instead of googleearth-bin ?
[15:49] <pilulap> iconmefisto: Yes but googleearth is just a bash script that export some env vars and then cd in the correct dir and then execute ./googleearth-bin
[15:49] <pilulap> But the result is the same
[15:52] <iconmefisto> pilulap: there's also a google software repo for debian/ubuntu http://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/apt.html
[15:53] <pilulap> iconmefisto: yes but now I'm more interested in why it didn't work than in making it working with a correct package :)
[15:55] <pilulap> iconmefisto: Ok I'll use the deb package and discuss the problem in linuxhelp Thanks.
[16:30] <ohmy> hi
[16:31] <dasKreech> hi
[16:31] <ohmy> i'm still facing a problem after hours of google search without any solution, when i run any OpenGL based application it wont run in a true full screen mode, in fact even with glxgears -fullscreen i'm still able to see kde bar
[16:32] <dasKreech> shane4ubuntu: sorted out?
[16:32] <ohmy> anyone have an idea how to fix this ? (kubuntu 10.10)
[16:33] <shane4ubuntu> dasKreech: yep, it wasn't plugged in all the way. :-X
[16:33] <ohmy> please if any have an idea :(
[16:33] <dasKreech> shane4ubuntu: lol :)
[16:33] <dasKreech> ohmy: Try #kwin ?
[16:33] <ohmy> dasKreech: ty
[16:46] <ohmy> not responding, hopefully i'm not the only guy who had this problem :!(
[16:54] <ohmy> Here what look a full screen opengl application :( http://img638.imageshack.us/i/captureowy.png/
[17:00] <Angel> hey dudes i like Kubuntu its fuckin awesome
[17:00] <Angelus> do u guys like it too?
[17:02] <dasKreech> ohmy: do you have your panel set to stay over windows?
[17:02] <dasKreech> Angelus: Yep prtty much
[17:03] <BloodyRain2k> anyone wanna help me with my wlan problem? I recently installed kubuntu 10.10 because I wrecked my 10.04 because of the same problem: not being able to connect to detected wireless networks. After installing it it worked once and stopped working after that. I already tried Wicd but that didn't work either, only says always bad password.
[17:04] <BluesKaj> !language | Angelus
[17:04] <Angelus> cool lets be friends!
[17:04] <ohmy> dasKreech: i didnt set it to be, let me check plz
[17:04] <BluesKaj> hehe, merry christmas
[17:04] <Peace--> BloodyRain2k: in the most of cases you got a wrong bad driver...
[17:05] <Angelus> ho ho ho merry christmass!
[17:05] <Peace--> BluesKaj: heya man merry christmas too you
[17:05] <Angelus> im spending it with my best friend Kubuntu
[17:05] <BluesKaj> Merry Christmas Peace-- !
[17:05] <ohmy> dasKreech: how to check this ?
[17:06] <dasKreech> ohmy: click the button at the end of the panel then click more settings
[17:06] <BluesKaj> sunny and a bit cool here , but google earth isn't co-operating with the new kde 4.5 I'm afraid
[17:07] <BluesKaj> maybe I should download an older version
[17:08] <Peace--> BloodyRain2k: so... you wann be helped or what?
[17:10] <BloodyRain2k> sorry, was afk for a sec *reads up*
[17:10] <ohmy> dasKreech: Options are 1- Always visible, 2 windows can go 3 windows are placed below
[17:11] <Peace--> BloodyRain2k: iwconfig please
[17:11] <Peace--> !paste | BloodyRain2k
[17:13] <BloodyRain2k> still the same like here http://paste.ubuntu.com/544928/ just that its now wlan1 2 & 0
[17:14] <Peace--> BloodyRain2k: usb or internal device?
[17:14] <BloodyRain2k> wlan1 is my internal, one is pcmcia and one is usb
[17:15] <Peace--> BloodyRain2k: you wanna se the internal?
[17:15] <BloodyRain2k> that would be best since the other 2 are just for airodump
[17:15] <Peace--> ok give me the lspci  | grep -i network
[17:17] <Peace--> BloodyRain2k: are you here?
[17:17] <Peace--> i have so much time...
[17:17] <BloodyRain2k> yeah sec >_<''
[17:18] <dasKreech> ohmy: Right do you have Windows can cover clicked?
[17:18] <BloodyRain2k> http://paste.ubuntu.com/547292/
[17:26] <darthanubis> kde updates for Christmas!!!
[17:29] <BloodyRain2k> Peace--: http://paste.ubuntu.com/547292/
[17:33] <Peace--> BloodyRain2k: ok the sick atheros
[17:33] <Karcelona> hola
[17:33] <BloodyRain2k> and I thought linux likes Atheros oô
[17:34] <Peace--> BloodyRain2k: now
[17:34] <Peace--> are you sure atheros is wlan0 ?
[17:34] <Peace--> if yes
[17:34] <Peace--> sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[17:35] <BloodyRain2k> internal and pcmcia are atheros i think, usb is some rtlk86 thing
[17:35] <Peace--> you must understand which is ... wlan0 wlan1 or wlan2 or or or
[17:36] <Peace--> and use tha tcommand line
[17:37] <BloodyRain2k> with what can i look up the mac of a wlan?
[17:37] <BloodyRain2k> cause I know my internals mac address, partly
[17:38] <sithlord48> BloodyRain2k:  In a konsle use lshw , look for ur wifi card
[17:40] <Peace--> BloodyRain2k: rfkill list
[17:41] <Peace--> BloodyRain2k: i have not all the day man...
[17:41] <Peace--> try to go faster...
[17:42] <BloodyRain2k> sorry the lshw list was long, yeah wlan1 is the internal and iwlist scan gave me a many aps in range, rfkill list shows all listed as blocked no / no, soft and hard
[17:43] <Peace--> BloodyRain2k: lsmod | grep ath
[17:45] <BloodyRain> Peace--: http://paste.ubuntu.com/547302/
[17:46] <Peace--> BloodyRain: you have ath5k driver for your atheros 5001
[17:46] <Peace--> so that driver could be the problem
[17:46] <Peace--> i have an 5006
[17:46] <Peace--> and i have used madwifi when the driver ath5k didn't work well on my device
[17:47] <Peace--> so ..
[17:47] <Peace--> you could blacklist the driver ath5k
[17:47] <Peace--> compile madwifi
[17:47] <Peace--> load the driver ath_pci
[17:47] <Peace--> and try that ...
[17:47] <Peace--> if it don't work ...
[17:47] <Peace--> remove from the blacklist ath5k and put instead ath_pci
[17:48] <Peace--> wanna try that?
[17:48] <BloodyRain> ok, i know mostly how to compile stuff in linux, but not how to blacklist drifers and load them
[17:48] <Peace--> BloodyRain: this was my stuff ... http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2009/05/06/kubuntu-904-atheros-communications-inc-ar242x-80211abg-wireless-pci-express-adapter-rev-01/
[17:48] <Peace--> BloodyRain: forget the first solution
[17:48] <Peace--> BloodyRain: i mean the reset of voltage
[17:49] <Peace--> BloodyRain: and read how to compile the driver and load it
[17:49] <Peace--> BloodyRain: if you don't know about loading driver blacklist
[17:49] <Peace--> you could read this article
[17:49] <Peace--> it's pretty easy
[17:49] <Peace--> BloodyRain: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2009/05/07/kubuntu-904-driver/
[17:49] <Peace--> now i have to go
[17:49] <Peace--> bye bye
[17:49] <BloodyRain> ok thanks, gonna try that
[17:50] <Peace--> BloodyRain: ps that is my blog
[17:50] <Peace--> if you got problem you could post some commet even if in these day i will be eating like a pig...
[17:50] <Peace--> :D
[17:56] <iconmefisto> ohmy: I just saw your screenshot. do you have ati graphics card?
[19:12] <jmarcos> olá a todos
[19:12] <jmarcos> alguém  poderia me ajudar com o Choqok?
[19:13] <jmarcos> ou aconselhar outro programas pra usar o twitter?
[19:18] <karim_> hello every one
[19:18] <diego> hi
[19:18] <liddell333> Hi!
[19:19] <karim_> #france
[19:19] <karim_> how to join french room
[19:20] <karim_> salut tout le monde
[19:33] <JeroenDeDauw> My "alt+f2 thing" crashed. How can I start it again? (I don't know what it's called)
[19:39] <speedvin> JeroenDeDauw: krunner
[19:40] <JeroenDeDauw> speedvin: Thanks :)
[19:40] <JeroenDeDauw> Now I can haz recursiveness o_O
[19:40] <speedvin> JeroenDeDauw: no problem
[20:21] <topbayder> hi, does anyone know how to get a driver to show up in the additional drivers menu?
[20:22] <topbayder> i am having trouble with my broadcom 4313 and have the sta driver for the card form synaptic but it doesn't show up in the additional drivers list.. :/
[20:35] <whilo> ey
[20:35] <whilo> something happened today and would like to know what it is
[20:36] <whilo> my system got a lot snappier it is a difference like getting a new machine
[20:36] <whilo> the ui feels a lot more snappier, i can actually build with make -j2, watch a hd movie, rsync my backup and even still browse the web with only minor hangs (which is due to my disk being slow and virtuoso still being buggy)
[20:37] <whilo> i have seen that there was a kernel update on 22 for 10.10's 2.6.35-42 and today i installed the new 4.6rc, it really makes me happy, what has changed?
[20:38] <whilo> have you actually pulled the mentioned vt grouping patches to the kernel? or was there some fixing in kde for bugs related to blocked hard disk access (which compared to my system is quite slow)
[21:34] <Swizec> can anyone help with kubuntu boot problems
[21:35] <Swizec> I just ran an upgrade and now I can't get into the graphical interface :/
[21:49] <surunveri> hi can someone help me with getting ktorrent or similiar work
[21:49] <surunveri> there's some package problems or such
[22:31] <BajK_> oh maaan why is this kubuntu installer partition manager sooo slow
[22:32] <valorie> well, it is switching around bits on your hard drive
[22:32] <valorie> give the nanobots time!
[22:32] <BajK_> it did not do anything by now
[22:32] <BajK_> and now it crashed again
[22:33] <BajK_> man I just want to create a /boot, a swap, a / and a /home partition
[22:34] <BajK_> applying changes goes in an blink but having to set all the partitioons is a mess
[22:34] <BajK_> okay, the crash was not the installers fault
[22:34] <BajK_> the usb stick is broken now.
[22:35] <valorie> :(
[22:35] <BajK_> it says "the partition xyz defined for /boot has an offset of 2048 to the position which may leed to poor performance"
[22:36] <BajK_> same goes for / and /home
[22:36] <valorie> do you have an SSD?
[22:37] <BajK_> BAM CRASH AGAIN -.-
[22:37] <BajK_> valorie: nope
[22:38] <valorie> sorry, I'm off to wrap
[22:38] <BajK_> stupid thing -.- but well what should I expect from an INSTALLATION program which is the first experience a user gets which isnt even translated completetly
[22:38] <maco> only a small number of translations can fit onto the cd :-/
[22:39] <BajK_> that doesn't excuse that some parts are translated and some are not
[22:39] <maco> did you switch usb sticks? or are you still trying to use the broken one?
[22:39] <BajK_> especially complicated error messages are not.
[22:39] <BajK_> maco: I switched
[22:39] <maco> probably didnt have a person who knew how to translate it then
[22:39] <BajK_> the broken one isnt even recognized anymore
[22:40] <BajK_> i cannot just set the mount point because the installer than says "there is an offset of 2048 which may leed to poor performacne" and whenever deleting and re-creating the / partition it crashes
[22:40] <maco> the 2048 thing would be about the numbers you put into the "partition start" and "partition end" spots in the edit partition thing i think
[22:40] <whilo> BajK_: are you sure your drive is o.k.? where did the first crash actually came from?
[22:41] <BajK_> hm, I don't want to claim warranty since this notebook is brandnew
[22:41] <BajK_> seems the installer has a different opinion on file system sizes than the partition manager of kde has
[22:42] <BajK_> in the partition manager the partition .. CRASH AGAIN
[22:42] <BajK_> was 100 MB, here it 104
[22:42] <BajK_> yeah and the most important tool which is the partition manager isnt even on the kubuntu live cd -.-
[22:44] <rysiek|pl> heeeere's rysiek!
[22:44] <rysiek|pl> yofel: you here?
[22:44] <BajK_> and why the hell doesnt this installer offer you to connect to WiFi int he first place? it claims you have not connected but it does not offer you to choose one or enter a password
[22:44] <whilo> BajK_: what version of the installer do you use?
[22:44] <yofel> rysiek|pl: yes
[22:44] <BajK_> whilo: the one shipped with Kubuntu 10.10
[22:45] <rysiek|pl> yofel: care to debug the bugger a bit more, or should I just leave you be, because you're fed up with this shite? ;)
[22:45] <whilo> BajK_: i have installed with it on several machines (both with and without windows on side of it) and had no problem so far, so there must be something really wrong
[22:45] <yofel> rysiek|pl: what's wrong now? The beta ppa was updated so you should get a different breakage now ^^
[22:45] <BajK_> and man, you can resize EVERY window in KDE, if it makes sense or it just fills up with empty space doesnt matter. but you cannot resize the partition list. MAN
[22:45] <BajK_> whilo: i also never encountered problems with it
[22:46] <BajK_> beside the fact it is slow as hell
[22:46] <BajK_> I would use the alternate install if it worked..
[22:46] <rysiek|pl> yofel: noticed ;)
[22:46] <BajK_> it cannot set a partition bootable.
[22:46] <rysiek|pl> yofel: well, the KPackageKit gui tries (still) to remove 33 packages (including kubuntu-desktop, digikam, amarok, kdeworkspace)
[22:46] <whilo> BajK_: the installer one?
[22:46] <BajK_> whilo: ?
[22:46] <yofel> rysiek|pl: k, it shouldn't remove kubuntu-desktop
[22:46] <whilo> partition manager or kpartitionmanager?
[22:47] <rysiek|pl> yofel: and aptitude dist-update still gives me a few screenfulls of errors
[22:47] <BajK_> whilo: haha, if you had followed the conversation, you would hav enoticed, that the installer one sucks. ;)
[22:47] <BajK_> whilo: kpackagekit does not find any packages
[22:47] <BajK_> concerning partition
[22:47] <yofel> hm... as I said, try a few different aptitude dependency resolutions, maybe one of them will hint to what's conflicting
[22:47] <rysiek|pl> yofel: right, will test
[22:48] <rysiek|pl> yofel: I just did aptitude upgrade (few plasmoids broke, prolly because some scriptengines didn't get upgraded)
[22:48] <rysiek|pl> yofel: will be fighting with resolutions then
[22:48] <BajK_> .o0 ( I still know the reason why all people wanting a computer of mine request on me installing windows again… )
[22:49] <BajK_> man, Kubuntu is so great once it is configured (except for its slowness compared to other KDE distributions like chakra) but configuring/installing it is a mess
[22:50] <BajK_> oookay, gotta press "install now"
[22:50] <yofel> BajK_: kpackagekit gives me partitionmanager if I search for partition, the installer recommends a wired connection because nobody had time to implement a wireless interface but I agree that it's slow (I blame python)
[22:50] <BajK_> I looked for partition but the list was empty
[22:50] <BajK_> ah okay, installation runnng
[22:51] <BajK_> yofel: then it should say that. I connected to Wifi and then it sayd "[tick] Connected to internet" but well... many people have wifi only so - if the wifi adapter is recognized - it should offer to connect via that
[22:51] <BajK_> hm.. I love Kubuntu and KDE but Ubuntu's installer and log in screen is so much more elegant
[22:52] <BajK_> hm, I hope in some Kubuntu version, 14.10 or so, there will be a Kubuntu KDM theme, a Kubuntu KDE Splash screen and a Kubuntu Grub Theme (all things that are available on kde-look.org by now already and I love them)
[22:53] <BajK_> no good working installer, BUT an installer that recognizes the platform it is running on..it offers me "bajk-aspire-3820" as computer name.. great.
[22:53] <BajK_> at least I got Kubuntu's plymouth theme to accept the --ask-question parameter since it was not implemented out of box.
[22:54] <yofel> what does that do?
[22:55] <BajK_> yofel: but it seems installing just fine and is fetching language files and stuff from wifi :)
[22:55] <BajK_> yofel: you mean that plymouth stuff?
[22:56] <BajK_> well, the plymouth screen is capable of performing different actions which you can trigger with own scripts. So it can display miscellaneous texts, like "Doing this and that..." or ask for a password, which it does when your drive is encrypted
[22:56] <BajK_> there is also a ask question routine which is to trigger the same thing as the password thing but display the input in plain-text, not with dots
[22:56] <rysiek|pl> yofel: everything I do in aptitude ends in libkdeui5 not satisfied. if I try to upgrade *that*, I get 189 removals
[22:56] <BajK_> and this routine was not implemented at all in the kubuntu screen
[22:56] <BajK_> since I need it for a project, I implemented it
[22:56] <BajK_> (but I have no idea where to "propose" this for being added to a kubuntu release)
[22:58] <BajK_> but although often it makes me angry, NO BUG in Kubuntu/KDE will EVER bring me back to windows
[22:58] <BajK_> it is just too good and comfortable once configured to my needs :)
[22:58] <JoeyD> :)
[22:58] <speedvin> Does someone got working gimp 2.6.11 in natty?
[23:00] <yofel> speedvin: do you have all updates installed? there were gtk issues
[23:00] <speedvin> yofel: yes...
[23:01] <BajK_> is it just me or does kde 4.6 have a new default wallpaper and splash screen?
[23:01] <yofel> works for me, but ask in #ubuntu+1
[23:01] <speedvin> BajK_: for every one ;)
[23:01] <yofel> BajK_: it does
[23:02] <BajK_> hm oh man, instead of trying to fix long annoying bugs, they like to re-work the artwork all over again^^ seems the author likes half-life. the new one totally reminds me of it
[23:02] <BajK_> still, I don't like KDE's default appearance^^
[23:03] <amusapik> hellooo
[23:03] <amusapik> ?
[23:03] <yofel> me neither, but unlike gnome I don't need to patch the source to make it look like I want
[23:03] <BajK_> sooo, restarting :)
[23:03] <BajK_> yofel: that's correct
[23:03] <amusapik> is 9.  better or is 10.04?
[23:04] <yofel> 10.04 is LTS, so I would recommend that over 9, support for 9 will end in april too
[23:04] <BajK_> so, the first thin I do when I freshly install Kubuntu (which happens rarely since I always preserve my home dir) is changing the mouse pointer theme, change the kdm theme, change from air to ambiance, put the window buttons to the left, and that's it :)
[23:04] <amusapik> i just installed 9. something and its asking me if i wanty to upgrade 10.04
[23:04] <BajK_> and this k get new stuff just rocks
[23:04] <BajK_> okay, gotta fix the background lighting things
[23:05] <BajK_> ah well and adding a lot of shortcuts and gestures
[23:05] <amusapik> also i have ubuntu on my other cpu also when i upgrade amarok doesnt seem to work and ideas?
[23:06] <BajK_> hm, although I didn't like them at first, now I get used to using acvitites. Now having "Work" with the company's logo in the background, "home", and such
[23:06] <amusapik> yofel u there?
[23:06] <yofel> rysiek|pl: hm, libkdeui5 is part of kdelibs, so a lot depends on that, since you have a lot installed it might be that not everything was rebuilt for 4.6 that depends on kdelibs
[23:06] <yofel> amusapik: erm, obviously yes
[23:06] <amusapik> so 10.04 is a good stable version?
[23:07] <yofel> amusapik: it's supposed to be, but I can't guarantee it for every piece of hardware out there
[23:07] <amusapik> so eighter way ill need to upgrade by april u say?
[23:07] <yofel> amusapik: yes
[23:07] <amusapik> kk ty
[23:07] <amusapik> what u running?
[23:08] <yofel> 11.04, you shouldn't use that unless you can handle broken systems though
[23:10] <yofel> rysiek|pl: what happens if you run 'aptitude install kubuntu-desktop kdelibs5' ?
[23:13] <BajK_> kubuntu's splash looks sooo great and sharp and brilliant compared to windows'^^
[23:26] <BajK_> How do I specify in which wallet a program has to store its passwords?
[23:27] <BajK_> I want the WLAN password be saved unprotected so it instantly connects upon login
[23:27] <BajK_> so I created a password-less WLAN wallet and the default one
[23:27] <BajK_> but network manager always saves to the default one
[23:28] <rysiek|pl> yofel: nothing happens, already installed - but in older versions
[23:44] <BajK_> hm, my notebook has an builtin bluetooth adapter but kde says "no bluetooth adapters found. please connect one"
[23:46] <tc1100> hello, I'm fairly new to linux and I'm trying to access my shared folders from my windows 7 computer with samba
[23:46] <tc1100> I have no idea why it keeps asking for a password and username when I go to the folder in dolphin
[23:47] <tc1100> also users I made on the windows computer dont work
[23:47] <tc1100> perhaps someone could tell me exactly what I would need for my smb.conf?
[23:48] <surunveri> hi can someone help me with getting ktorrent or similiar work
[23:48] <surunveri> there's some package problems or such
[23:49] <well_laid_lawn> !torrents
[23:50] <tc1100> I know I'm probably no help but have you opened the ports  on your router for ktorrent
[23:50] <well_laid_lawn> !bitorrent