[01:20] <speedy493> hello all, I recently installed Lubuntu on my Asus 1215N as it was faster than Linux Mint, however when I used the built in feature to install the nvidia driver, it now gets stuck on "checking battery state" on boot.
[03:16] <craigbass1976> I'm setting up a new lubuntu box for my kids.  Am I going to be able to upgrade this like I do regular ubuntu?
[03:17] <szczur> yes, there's no difference in this aspect
[03:17] <craigbass1976> Any lubuntu installs I've done before were lxde installs on top of regular gnome ubuntu
[03:17] <craigbass1976> szczur, ok.  Thanks.
[03:21] <craigbass1976> szczur, did I read somewhere about lubuntu not being quite the same as the equivalent version of ubuntu, xubuntu, etc?
[03:22] <szczur> craigbass1976, were not the official ubuntu derivative as k/x/ubuntu is. but we're aiming to become one at 11.04 if i remember correctly
[03:24] <craigbass1976> szczur, when's the next LTS, 12.04?
[03:25] <szczur> probably :)
[03:25] <szczur> 8.04 > 10.04 so next would be the 12.04
[03:26] <craigbass1976> Is this room getting busier?  Any usage  stats out there?
[03:28] <szczur> don't know about stats, but you can read the logs at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[10:12] <Yorvyk> \o/ no more flickering panel
[10:14] <AbhiJit> hello?
[10:15] <Yorvyk> AbhiJit, Hi
[10:15] <AbhiJit> Yorvyk, i cant find lbntu lts lucid torrent link?
[10:17] <AbhiJit> helpp
[10:18] <Yorvyk> AbhiJit, Just A sec
[10:18] <AbhiJit> ok
[10:20] <Yorvyk> AbhiJit, http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/
[10:21] <AbhiJit> Yorvyk, thank you!
[10:22] <Yorvyk> AbhiJit, OK, bookmark that link the torrents should always be there.
[10:23] <AbhiJit> yeah
[10:26] <phillw> AbhiJit: Yorvyk if you follow the link on the room topic, it also takes you there :)
[10:27] <AbhiJit> phillw, 10.04
[10:27] <AbhiJit> i dont want 10.10
[10:28] <phillw> AbhiJit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#10.04
[10:28] <AbhiJit> yeak
[10:28] <AbhiJit> ok
[10:30] <Yorvyk> phillw, pehaps the link could be altered to take you to http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/ rather than straight to the download
[10:31] <phillw> AbhiJit: http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=94 has how to check the iso and cd, as the self test did not work on the 10.04 release.
[10:31] <AbhiJit> i see
[10:31] <AbhiJit> hmm
[10:33] <wyclif> hello
[10:33] <phillw> I will get the 10.04 instructions re-added to the help area.
[10:33] <AbhiJit> ok
[10:35] <phillw> Yorvyk: as the 10.04 can not self test, and it was creating support issues I thought it better to just leave the 10.10 one. I'll get the instructions for 10.04 testing put back onto the wiki area.
[10:35] <phillw> hi wyclif
[10:35] <wyclif> Well, just installed lubuntu 10.10 on a ThinkPad, really pleased with the result: a nice hackable laptop
[10:36] <phillw> wyclif: thanks for dropping by. It is nice to have a compliment on here for a change :D
[10:36] <wyclif> Much faster without GNOME
[10:37] <wyclif> phillw: No, you guys are doing the right thing, lightweight is a good trend to be on
[10:37] <wyclif> I don't miss Nautilus at all, either =)
[13:02] <Verdinosaure> hi there,  I installed Lubuntu on an old computer
[13:02] <Verdinosaure> when I install and launch ubuntu-software-center, my processor is becoming crazy, just like my RAM memory
[13:03] <Verdinosaure> by doing "ps -aux", I can see that python is the reason why my computer almost crashes
[13:04] <Verdinosaure> I know ubuntu-software-center is heavy and should not be installed on lubuntu, but synaptic is not that "user-friendly"
[13:05] <phillw> Verdinosaure: that is why we do not use it.
[13:05] <Verdinosaure> phillw: so this is a known bug ?
[13:07] <phillw> Verdinosaure: there is a version  of lubuntu-software-center in development. The reason for the ubuntu one having problems is most likely having issues is GNOME depedencies, but as I'm not a dev I could well be totally wron.
[13:07] <phillw> *wrong*
[13:08] <Verdinosaure> phillw: ok, thanks for explaining. I hope we'll see that on lubuntu 11.04 ^^
[13:10] <phillw> more likely to be 11.10. The extremely small team of devs have their time being eaten up also by the commitment to support the 10.04 beta as if it were an LTS.
[13:15] <Verdinosaure> phillw: no problem, I know how to use synaptic and apt-get command lines ^^ I wish good luck for the team to make lubuntu an official derivative of ubuntu
[13:17] <phillw> Verdinosaure: thanks, do pop onto #lubuntu-offtopic if you ever just a general chat - we do not bite :D
[13:18] <phillw> *just want*
[15:47] <kristian-aalborg> hi all
[15:47] <kristian-aalborg> hi phillw bioterror head_victim etc etc :)
[15:47] <kristian-aalborg> stupid question: does lxde support the full ubuntu repos?
[15:48] <stlsaint> oh i dont get a hello?
[15:48] <Yorvyk_> kristian-aalborg, Yes
[15:49] <kristian-aalborg> a good evening to stlsaint also
[15:49] <stlsaint> kristian-aalborg: oh yea to answer your question yes
[15:50] <stlsaint> kristian-aalborg: you can manage repos the same way you would within ubuntu
[15:50] <kristian-aalborg> good
[15:50] <kristian-aalborg> I was almost sure of that, but I wanted to be sure
[15:58] <kristian-aalborg> I don't mean to be rude, but what's the difference between lubuntu and barebones ubuntu + lxde?
[16:00] <Yorvyk_> Lubuntu is Ubuntu+LXDE+themes+a collection of applications basically
[16:02] <kristian-aalborg> ok
[16:03] <kristian-aalborg> if I choose the former method, can I get support here?
[16:04] <Yorvyk_> We’ll try and help :)
[16:05] <Yorvyk_> We can make guarantees as it may not be something many of us have done
[16:07] <kristian-aalborg> sure sure
[16:08] <kristian-aalborg> I'm not expecting to have a lot of questions, but distros/apps have different support politics
[16:09] <Yorvyk_> That’s the problem, even though what you want to do is Based on Ubuntu and so is LUbuntu things are just different enough to cause problems when try to overcome any problems.
[16:17] <bioterror> ahh hi
[16:18] <Yorvyk_> ih hha
[16:48] <realblurgh> Ahhh IRC, takes me back to 1994...<sigh>
[18:54] <jeward> Hi, I just installed lubuntu!  How do I get the proprietary drivers to install?
[18:54] <bioterror> what you need
[18:55] <jeward> I have Nvidia GPU and Broadcom wireless.
[18:56] <bioterror> xserver-xorg-video-nv - X.Org X server -- NV display driver
[18:56] <bioterror> vdpau-va-driver - VDPAU-based backend for VA API
[18:56] <bioterror> if you have vdpau capable gpu
[18:57] <bioterror> but
[18:57] <bioterror> you should try
[18:57] <bioterror> menu -> Preferences -> Additional drivers
[18:57] <jeward> Perfect, thank you!
[18:58] <bioterror> did it find something?
[18:58] <jeward> It found both drivers!
[18:58] <bioterror> :-)
[18:59] <jeward> Now I have to reboot to activate.  Any special advice about installing wine?
[18:59] <bioterror> you should rather drink it
[19:00] <bioterror> are you playing some games or why you need wine?-)
[19:00] <jeward> Yes, I play Windows games. :)
[19:00] <jeward> Just install it as if I were in regular Ubuntu?
[19:01] <jeward> I'll be back!
[19:01] <bioterror> okay
[19:01] <bioterror> jeward, yes
[19:01] <bioterror> just like in vanilla ubuntu
[19:01] <bioterror> there's really no difference how it works
[20:00] <kosaidpoo> hello guys
[20:01] <kosaidpoo> i;ve messed up all my folde i guess
[20:02] <kosaidpoo> well i was in the /var/www and in wordpress i wanted to edit a file and it says i cant so i went to /var  without thikin i jst typed sudo chown and owned evythin in var
[20:02] <kosaidpoo> can some one please tell me
[20:03] <kosaidpoo> whats the owners in var folder
[20:03] <kosaidpoo> root ?
[20:03] <kosaidpoo> hello
[20:03] <kosaidpoo> anyone hre
[20:08] <Yorvyk_> kosaidpoo, owner and group is root
[20:12] <Guest36307> Can anyone tell me how to get the driver for an HP PSC 1510 printer in lubuntu?
[20:13] <Guest36307> i know it's in CUPS, but it's apparently not a part of lubuntu
[20:13] <bioterror> lubuntu has same stuff as ubuntu
[20:14] <Guest36307> i thought so as well, i'm not sure why i can't get it
[20:14] <Guest36307> it has 900 series and 2200 series, nothing for 1500 series
[20:22] <jeward> I've just installed lubuntu 10.10, but grub doesn't see my win7 partition.  How do I get it to?
[20:23] <jeward> If I have a 64bit CPU, should I reinstall from a 64bit Ubuntu-mini and then lubuntu-desktop?
[20:23] <bioterror> sudo apt-get install os-proper
[20:23] <bioterror> prober
[20:24] <bioterror> :D
[20:24] <bioterror> sudo os-prober
[20:24] <bioterror> sudo update-grub
[20:24] <kosaidpoo> Yorvyk_: all the files in the var dir ??
[20:25] <kosaidpoo> Yorvyk_: cus in the www dir there was the www-data as a group
[20:26] <Yorvyk_> kosaidpoo, just the folder
[20:26] <jeward> bioterror: Thanks!  That did it!
[20:27] <jeward> bioterror: What do you think of the 64bit question?
[20:27] <bioterror> whaaat
[20:27] <bioterror> where
[20:27] <jeward> If I have a 64bit CPU, should I reinstall from a 64bit Ubuntu-mini and then lubuntu-desktop?
[20:27] <bioterror> do you have 4GB+++ rMA?
[20:27] <bioterror> RAM
[20:27] <bioterror> or less?
[20:28] <kosaidpoo> Yorvyk_: shud i own the var dir and its sub files too as in shjud i use the option -R of chown ?
[20:28] <jeward> 4GB RAM.
[20:28] <bioterror> then mini-install
[20:28] <bioterror> OR
[20:28] <bioterror> OR!
[20:28] <jeward> pae?
[20:28] <bioterror> yes
[20:28] <jeward> What advantage is there to mini-install?
[20:29] <jeward> lubuntu installed the pae kernel by default.
[20:29] <bioterror> as I've seen i686 is working better
[20:29] <bioterror> getting bugfixes and stuff
[20:29] <jeward> Linux M11x 2.6.35-24-generic-pae #42-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 2 03:21:31 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[20:29] <bioterror> you get flash from apt-get
[20:29] <jeward> I think I'll stick with pae then.
[20:30] <jeward> Oh yeah, what's the package lubuntu-restricted--???
[20:30] <jeward> addons or extras?
[20:30] <jeward> Or both? :)
[20:30] <bioterror> same as ubuntu-restricted
[20:31] <bioterror> but I think lubuntu has less stuff
[20:31] <bioterror> so you can go with it
[20:31] <kosaidpoo> .guys i get this when i try to use sudo [ sudo: /var/lib/sudo owned by uid 1000, should be uid 0
[20:31] <kosaidpoo> ]
[20:32] <jeward> You guys use openjdk or sun?
[20:32] <Yorvyk_> kosaidpoo,  everything I’ve looked at appears to be owned by root with group root.  But, I don’t have WWW-data so can’t say on that one
[20:33] <bioterror> jeward, sun ofcourse
[20:33] <bioterror> jeward, remove all that's related to openjdk and icedtea and then install sun-java6-jre,plugin,fonts,bin
[20:34] <jeward> bioterror: I just noiticed lubuntu-restricted is installed openjdk.
[20:35] <kosaidpoo> Yorvyk_: okies i guess i jst need to reinstall apache right ?? wht u think ?
[20:35] <bioterror> hahaha
[20:36] <kosaidpoo> hello phillw
[20:37] <phillw> kosaidpoo: why are you running apache?
[20:37] <kosaidpoo> phillw:  in the var dir i did a mistak and owned evrythin
[20:38] <kosaidpoo> so icant acces my site in the www phillw
[20:39] <kosaidpoo> phillw: and now owned everythin to root and still cannot acces my site
[20:39] <kosaidpoo> can you please check for ur www dir
[20:41] <phillw> kosaidpoo: did you follow the instructions on the classroom I gave?
[20:42] <kosaidpoo> yeh i had it installed along time ago fom that class phillw
[20:45] <phillw> kosaidpoo: can you pastebin up the result of 'ls -al /var/www' and pop the link back on here.
[20:46] <kosaidpoo> phillw: ok
[20:46] <phillw> kosaidpoo: actually as it non lubuntu, can you use the offtopic area, thanks.