[00:37] <theophilus7777> Hey guys, so I'm trying to follow these instructions, and I'm having trouble figuring out the ip addresses and getting this set-up... any network pros here? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router
[00:38] <holstein> ip address on a machine?
[00:38] <holstein> you can run ifconfig
[00:38] <holstein> in a terminal
[00:39] <holstein> theophilus7777: what is the goal?
[00:39] <nit-wit> holstein, shouldn't the dhcp function get that if they click on the wireless source
[00:40] <theophilus7777> ya... what I want to do is take a USB wifi adapter I have and use it to host wifi for a couple of my wifi devices (as an alternative to a access point)
[00:41] <holstein> theophilus7777: OH
[00:41] <holstein> interesting
[00:41] <holstein> i havent done that yet
[00:41] <holstein> ive always wanted to try it though
[00:41] <holstein> nit-wit: should right?
[00:41] <holstein> the network manager...
[00:42] <theophilus7777> I had it working on windows xp, but it was so sketchy, and I wanted something more stable
[00:42] <nit-wit> holstein, for direct connect the IP is changing dfaily so dhcp unless it is static
[00:42] <holstein> yeah, and ive been really into ddwrt recently
[00:42] <nit-wit> *daily
[00:43] <nit-wit> holstein, is that dwarfs?
[00:43] <nit-wit> :)
[00:43] <holstein> ;)
[00:44] <nit-wit> holstein, send out the mini you and stay home and collect the royalties.
[00:44] <holstein> sign me up
[00:46] <nit-wit> theophilus7777, you have the laptop hard plugged and want it to be the wireless router correct
[00:50] <theophilus7777> nit-wit, basically, but it's a desktop\
[00:51] <theophilus7777> a laptop will be listening
[00:52] <theophilus7777> ("listening" as in using the wifi from the desktop)
[00:53] <nit-wit> theophilus7777, just confirming whats up it was hard for me to tell. I haven't had to do this I would just by a wireless router they are cheap.
[00:53] <nit-wit> *buy
[00:54] <nit-wit> theophilus7777, you must have a router to the desktop if not a router is more protection.
[00:54] <holstein> im collecting ddwrt compatible ones
[00:55] <holstein> i find them for like $10 or $15 at the charity shops
[00:56] <nit-wit> holstein, so ddwrt is just a open source firmware for routers compatible, to be made OSS
[00:57] <holstein> http://www.dd-wrt.com/site/index
[00:57] <holstein> i got into it needing a wireless repeater
[00:57] <holstein> but there are all kinds of nice options 'baked' in
[01:02] <nit-wit> holstein, seems pretty cool. Is there a compatibility list in the routers, I just made a cursory look so I don't know all the easter eggs.
[01:02] <holstein> http://www.dd-wrt.com/site/support/router-database
[01:02] <holstein> thats the one i check
[01:02] <holstein> might be a more up to date one somewheres
[01:03] <nit-wit> holstein, thanks.;) i will look around as well
[01:03] <holstein> some are easier than others to flash
[01:03] <holstein> if you get into it
[01:06] <nit-wit> holstein, Good compatibility link on that page link. My first thought was the flash
[01:06] <nit-wit> of the bios
[01:08] <holstein> there are usually detailed how-to's on the more challening ones
[03:00] <BR> I am so lost now
[03:01] <theophilus7777> Hey guys... I have a question. I have two or more desktops hooked up to a wired router, and a laptop that I'd like to access network via wifi. I have a wifi dongle that I've been using on WinXP to share the internet via bridging the LAN and WLAN cards on the desktop... I'd like to make the same setup with my Ubuntu desktop, and found https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router , and thought that it was along the lines of 
[03:15] <theophilus7777> is anyone on here that'd be able to lend me a hand?
[03:17] <pleia2> theophilus7777: your question got cut off at "along the lines of" but I'm afraid I don't know anything about that kind of network sharing in Ubuntu these days
[03:18] <UndiFineD> theophilus7777,
[03:18] <theophilus7777> was along the lines of what I was looking for... however on attempting it, I couldn't figure out how to config the ip addresses and such in the instructions... so, is there anyone that thinks they're up to the challenge of giving me a hand with this?
[03:18] <pleia2> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[03:18] <pleia2> maybe?
[03:19] <holstein> theophilus7777: you just need static IP's?
[03:20] <holstein> http://www.jonathanmoeller.com/screed/?p=2305
[03:20] <holstein> ^^ looks like how i do it on server installs
[03:21] <pleia2> I'm pretty sure network manager does network sharing without having to edit files manually
[03:21] <holstein> pleia2: i thought that was becoming more integrated
[03:21] <theophilus7777> I'll take a look at that... Looking at the discription in the url I gave, I think that config is what I'm looking for... the problem I'm having is that I can't figure out the substitutions for the ip addresses they want... like, where you're supposed to edit etc/network/interfaces, I'm having trouble figuring out what's supposed to go in
[03:21] <theophilus7777> I have a static IP on the Ubuntu desktop I have
[03:23] <holstein> what are you missing?
[03:23] <theophilus7777> I had really bad luck with ICS on XP when I was doing it before... the DHCP server on my router and the ICS software didn't like working together...
[03:23] <pleia2> ah, so you're trying to manually set IPs to the other systems rather than doing ICS?
[03:24] <theophilus7777> holstein, well, in "4. Setting Up Your Network Interfaces", I'm not sure whether to use the "wireless only" or "wired and wireless" configurations
[03:24] <holstein> where are you?
[03:24] <holstein> im in north carolina
[03:24] <holstein> and i'll give you a router ;)
[03:25] <pleia2> hmm
[03:26] <theophilus7777> pleia2, um... I guess? the way it was working on XP was that the laptop connected to the wifi via the usb dongle, and got an ip address right from the wired router
[03:26] <holstein> eh, this looks like a fun project though
[03:26] <theophilus7777> Canada :P
[03:29] <pleia2> seems like from what you describe you just want ubuntu to do the ICS, not turn your ubuntu computer into a router as this article suggests
[03:30] <holstein> or a switch
[03:30] <pleia2> turning it into a full router feels a bit overkill if you're just connecting one system to it
[03:31] <theophilus7777> ya... that'd be right... I just saw bridging and part "1.3.1. Typical Example" and thought that was what i was looking for
[03:32] <pleia2> unfortunately the term "bridge" is used pretty broadly in networking
[03:32] <theophilus7777> Ah... ok
[03:33] <pleia2> if you look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing under "GUI Method via Network Manager (Ubuntu 9.10 and up) does that look like what you're trying to do?
[03:35] <holstein> w0w
[03:35] <holstein> thats easy
[03:35] <theophilus7777> hmm... looks like it's on the right path... it certainly seems easier than the other option...
[03:37] <theophilus7777> so, applying it to my situation, I should do the IPv4 settings thing on the Wired card or the wireless??
[03:41] <theophilus7777> it'd be wireless, eh? sorry for my noobish questions
[03:42] <theophilus7777> and if I wanted some encryption on the wireless, how could I do that with this method?
[03:43] <pleia2> I'm not sure :\
[03:43] <pleia2> I haven't actually done it before
[03:44] <theophilus7777> lol, ok cool :)... I noticed that was an option on the "router" page... but... ya, it was a little complicated
[03:45] <pleia2> I need to finish making dinner, good luck :)
[03:45] <theophilus7777> Lol, thanks :P
[03:51] <nit-wit> theophilus7777, have you tried #ubuntu
[03:51] <theophilus7777> I asked on there, but knowone answered
[03:51] <theophilus7777> *no one
[04:25] <thewrath> hey all!
[05:00] <firewall_03> y0
[05:12] <BR> how do I completely remove all the xen files that I installed
[05:19] <CensoredBiscuit> wouldn't sudo apt-get autoremove xen work? BR?
[05:19] <BR> no clue
[05:19] <head_victim> CensoredBiscuit: from memory xen is a little more involved, doesn't it install optimised kernels and other bits and bobs?
[05:20] <BR> yep
[05:20] <BR> I got it installed but I have no clue what to do next as far as using it
[05:21] <stlsaint> BR: using xen on server?
[05:21] <BR> on desktop
[05:21] <BR> no
[05:22] <stlsaint> oh
[05:22] <stlsaint> well start virtualising stuffs :D
[05:22] <BR> I got everything installed right I think when I boot I get the boot menu
[05:22] <BR> how
[05:22] <stlsaint> how?
[05:23] <stlsaint> what do you mean?
[05:24] <BR> like when I try and boot xen nothing happens and Im guess that because I dont have a guest OS on on some Of them when I try and boot I get a error or it doesnt do anything just sits there
[05:24] <BR> laughing at me
[05:25] <stlsaint> oh heck i dont know, have you checked the xen wiki on help.ubuntu.com?
[05:26] <BR> yes I have tried it all even went to the IRC chan and lets just say they were a big help or the lack their of
[05:26] <BR> how do I start virtualising stuff
[05:27] <head_victim> BR: depends on your needs you might find xen overpowered.
[05:27] <head_victim> BR: for simple virtualisation I use VirtualBox.
[05:27] <UndiFineD> I really like virtualbox ose
[05:27] <BR> well in vbox you cant run games
[05:28] <UndiFineD> that is fine, i do not need them
[05:28] <BR> you may not but do
[05:29] <head_victim> BR: fair enough,
[05:29] <BR> at least sometime
[05:29] <BR> and xen was the only vm that I found that you can run games on
[05:30] <head_victim> All I can suggest then is looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen
[05:30] <BR> yeah Ive used that
[05:30]  * head_victim hopes there is someone else in here that knows more than I do.
[05:30] <BR> I get up to the tried to run it put problem run file not there
[05:33] <head_victim> Sorry mate I'm completely out of my depth with xen. If I needed gaming I'd just dual boot. But I've found linux alternatives that make that not required anymore.
[05:35] <BR> I read something about being about to use partitions with win on them and run them from ubuntu without having to dual boot
[05:36] <BR> what alternative do you have
[05:37] <head_victim> I play urban terror when I feel like gaming. I don't game more than a few times a week.
[05:37] <pleia2> BR: kvm doesn't do what you need? I've only ever used xen with a hypervisor, and in that mode it won't run windows at all (since it requires a xen-aware kernel)
[05:37] <BR> oh ok
[05:37] <pleia2> and I hear virtualbox does 3d these days, but it may be limited to some cards
[05:38] <BR> yeah I read something about too
[05:38] <pleia2> I think you have to install the non-free one (OSE won't work), and the latest from the virtualbox site (not the one in the ubuntu repos)
[05:38] <BR> well I think I need to remove xen some how without having to do fresh install
[05:39] <pleia2> do this: dpkg -l | grep xen
[05:39] <BR> yeah Ill get that one a try
[05:39] <pleia2> that will list all the packages that contain "xen" in the name
[05:39] <pleia2> then you can remove them
[05:39] <pleia2> not sure if you changed your kernel, but if you did just boot into the ubuntu one (not your xen kernel)
[05:40]  * pleia2 needs to get back to laundry and things
[05:40] <BR> ok
[05:40] <BR> thanks
[06:24] <UBUxUBU> good morning aspiring Technicians...
[06:24] <CensoredBiscuit> morning UBUxUBU
[06:25]  * UndiFineD steals UBUxUBU 's x
[06:32]  * UBUxUBU throws a vine ripened tomato at UndiFineD 
[06:32] <UndiFineD> ooh lovely, goes well with bread, salt and pepper
[06:32] <IAmNotThatGuy> lolz
[06:43] <Unguided> hello all. I am looking to replace my M$ windows home server with ubuntu. I am a newb and have no real experience with ubuntu. Should I use desktop with things like dhcp samba etc installed or just go for the server edition. thanks in advance
[06:44] <holstein> Unguided: you can always check out a live CD
[06:44] <holstein> and see the desktop version
[06:45] <holstein> if you have the hardware, go ahead and install ubuntu server i say
[06:46] <holstein> theres really good documenation for most of what you would be intererested in
[06:46] <holstein> im running ubuntu server 10.04
[06:46] <Unguided> I have used the livecd. I also installed using wubi and liked what i saw. Im just wondering what would be the best way to go. I would prefer to use something with a graphical interface as i am dyslexic and memorize what the screens should look like
[06:47] <holstein> 10.04 is a long term support release
[06:47] <holstein> Unguided: ubuntu = ubuntu server
[06:47] <holstein> pretty much
[06:47] <holstein> you can run all the services and install all the packages you would want to use with the server install
[06:47] <holstein> on a desktop install
[06:48] <Unguided> holstein: can you recommend any websites besides ubuntu.com for newbs. I sometimes have trouble finding what i am looking for using google b/c of terminology
[06:49] <holstein> not really
[06:49] <holstein> just on IRC
[06:49] <holstein> try and figure out what you want to do
[06:49] <holstein> and go from there
[06:49] <holstein> share a printer with a windows...
[06:50] <holstein> samba share...
[06:50] <holstein> whatever
[06:50] <holstein> i think wubi is a great way to get started
[06:50] <holstein> and so easy to undo
[06:50] <Unguided> Ok. WHS uses disk pooling meaning it pools all the hdd into one large drive. can i do that with ubuntu
[06:51] <holstein> i havent done that
[06:51] <holstein> but i think you can
[06:51] <holstein> i would be concerned about losing one
[06:51] <holstein> and breaking the whole thing ;)
[06:52] <Unguided> WHS does folder duplication so it saves a copy on two seperate drives. kind of a poor mans raid.
[06:53] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq
[06:53] <holstein> ^^ talks about software raid
[06:53] <holstein> to get what your talking about i think...
[06:54] <Unguided> OK. linuxmce does a diskless boot. can i do that with any of my machines in the house.
[06:54] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[06:54] <holstein> Unguided: network boot?
[06:55] <pleia2> Unguided: I think you want LVM
[06:55] <Unguided> i believe that is what it is
[06:55] <pleia2> for pooling harddrives into a large disk
[06:56] <holstein> as long as the machine supports net booting
[06:56] <holstein> you should be good to go
[06:56] <holstein> you wont hit a lot of software limitations with linux
[06:57] <holstein> theres usually something in place, or a work around
[06:57] <Unguided> Awesome! now im getting some where. WHS goes out each night and automagically backs up each computer on the network. can ubuntu server do the same thing
[06:57] <holstein> you can
[06:57] <holstein> you can set that up all kinds of ways
[06:58] <holstein> pleia2: rsync?
[06:58] <holstein> client side?
[06:59] <Unguided> Swwet. I am so new to linux that i do not even know what each directory is for like bin var etc. I love the idea of using ubuntu server but dont know much command line. not a fear of it just dont know it. can u use server with gnome kde etc
[06:59] <pleia2> there is a new backup tool in recent ubuntu versions, lemme dig up a link
[07:00] <pleia2> I use rsync, but it's not particularly newbie friendly :(
[07:00] <holstein> Unguided: you'll learn
[07:00] <holstein> i think its helpful to try and 'live' in linux
[07:00] <holstein> maybe on a daily laptop
[07:00] <holstein> ive tried to migrate jobs slowly over to the command line
[07:00] <pleia2> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/SimpleBackupSuite
[07:00] <holstein> when i have time to learn
[07:01] <pleia2> I sent that to a customer recently, I haven't used it myself though
[07:01] <pleia2> more options are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem
[07:01] <Unguided> thanks pleia2. I would imagine it cant be any harder than using dos & ive been around computers since dos 6.2 and windows 3.1
[07:02] <pleia2> nah, but the rsync man (manual) page could wallpaper my bedroom :)
[07:03] <Unguided> pleia2: your link seems dead on.
[07:03] <pleia2> it's one of the few commonly used command line tools in linux that pretty much requires some flags to work (can't really just "rsync source destination")
[07:03] <pleia2> great :)
[07:04] <Unguided> how about dynamic dns dhcp samba etc. those are all just packages to install right? as holstein said can be ran on desktop or server coorect?
[07:05] <pleia2> yep
[07:05] <Unguided> Im one of those suckers who bought into tivo before I really knew what linux was. my tivo boxes never fail nor does my router. so it has to be good.
[07:06] <holstein> i had a xubuntu box as a server for a long time
[07:06] <holstein> i would vnc into it
[07:06] <pleia2> the difference between ubuntu desktop and ubuntu server is pretty much what is installed by default, desktop apps vs server apps, but they use the same sources so you can install packages on either
[07:06] <holstein> gave me the 'desktop feel'
[07:06] <pleia2> I used to install ubuntu server and install xorg and xfce4 manually on top, old habits die hard!
[07:06] <holstein> and the desktop to fall back on when i couldnt get what i needed done via SSH
[07:07] <Unguided> holstein you are dead on. my fear is installing and not knowing what i need to use to get something done and no backup plan in place
[07:08] <holstein> theres always help on the IRC
[07:08] <holstein> if you can wait for a while
[07:08] <holstein> some of the channels can be slow-ish
[07:09] <Unguided> any books you guys would recommend for the newb. I have seen the official ubuntu server book in the bookstores. any good?
[07:09] <holstein> i usually just read online
[07:09] <holstein> or the man pages
[07:09] <pleia2> it's good, but it really depends on what you want to learn
[07:09] <holstein> the books can go out of date
[07:10] <shiggs> hello to everyone
[07:10] <holstein> BUT i think a 10.04 ubuntu book would be handy and relevant for long enough
[07:10] <head_victim> Good book: http://apress.com/book/view/9781430219125 it's not exactly "pro" but a good beginner's guide to learning how to set up servers.
[07:10] <Unguided> right. but i believe i need a starting point.
[07:10] <head_victim> I'm working my way through it now
[07:11] <pleia2> http://www.amazon.com/Linux-Administration-Handbook-Evi-Nemeth/dp/0130084662 is pretty much the standard for linux systems administration
[07:11] <shiggs> Anyone got time to spare to help a beginer with a problem?
[07:11] <pleia2> but I think the ubuntu server book starts off a bit easier
[07:11] <pleia2> !ask
[07:12] <ubot2> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[07:13] <Unguided> how about remote access? can i log into ubuntu server from outside my home and use "remote desktop" (sorry for the windows terminology)
[07:14] <holstein> yup
[07:14] <pleia2> you can log in via the command line with secure shell (ssh) or with a VNC client
[07:14] <pleia2> ssh also has an -X mode that allows you to send gui stuff over the wire, but you need a decent internet connection
[07:14] <shiggs> Well then... I have finally installed Ubuntu on my new desktop version 10.4 32bit and now I am trying to install all of my drivers, first priority is my wireless USB card but every disc I put into my drive shows up as an archive or folder. When I try to autorun discs it says to me that the autorun program can not be found. Waz up wid dat?
[07:15] <holstein> shiggs: can you plug the computer in wired?
[07:15] <holstein> to the internet?
[07:15] <shiggs> nay
[07:15] <shiggs> Not on the same floor as the router
[07:16] <holstein> broadcom wireless?
[07:16] <Unguided> WHS only allows ten user accounts. Ubuntu allows unlimited correct?
[07:16] <pleia2> yes
[07:16] <pleia2> Unguided: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC are worth checking out
[07:16] <shiggs> Even if I could get online its strange that its not running CDs right
[07:16] <shiggs> Im trying to install my gpu drivers too
[07:17] <pleia2> shiggs: what are you expecting on the disks?
[07:17] <holstein> if they are windows driver disks
[07:17] <holstein> ubuntu doesnt use those
[07:18] <shiggs> so how does one obtain drivers
[07:18] <holstein> well, the easy way is online
[07:18] <shiggs> especilly to get on the internet to get more drivers
[07:18] <holstein> ;)
[07:18] <shiggs> indeed
[07:18] <Unguided> pleia2: thanks. I love it. If a computer fails can i read the hdd on another computer say a windows box if all else fails?
[07:19] <pleia2> Unguided: unfortunately windows is not very good at reading linux drives (I think it can read ext3 with a special program installed, but probably not the ubuntu default of ext4)
[07:20] <pleia2> you could load the hdd into a windows box and then use an ubuntu livecd to access it though, even write to your windows disk (ubuntu can read and write to windows filesystems)
[07:21] <Unguided> Pleia2: great. then im not screwed if the system gets screwed up for some reason
[07:21] <holstein> shiggs: you need to find out what wireless card you have
[07:22] <shiggs> So I saw on the Ubunutu site that Netgear was a supported wireless adapter but on their website it doesnt mention any linux release. Will their drivers work or should I consider returning
[07:22] <shiggs> WNA3100
[07:22] <pleia2> a lot of vendors don't "officially" support linux but actually work, I'd plug the model name into ubuntuforums.org and see what you get
[07:22] <holstein> you'll have to download the firmware on something
[07:23] <holstein> and bring it to that machine
[07:23] <holstein> if this were my first time...
[07:23] <pleia2> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1549190 is the first hit I get
[07:23] <holstein> i would carry the box down to the internet
[07:23] <holstein> see if the wifi gets automaigically installed
[07:23] <holstein> then, the other things will be easy
[07:24] <holstein> in theory
[07:25] <Unguided> I can see the possibilities being endless with linux. i have three hamsters on the same wheel in my head with all the possibilities
[07:26] <holstein> Unguided: :)
[07:26] <Unguided> You guys mentioned LVM. What is that.
[07:26] <holstein> alright... bedtime... GN all
[07:26] <pleia2> Unguided: yeah, I have to admit that it's really hard for me to use other OSes now because I want to it to be flexible
[07:26] <Unguided> GN holstein and thanks for all your help
[07:26] <pleia2> Unguided: LVM == logical volume manager
[07:27] <pleia2> explaining it simply is tricky - you had mentioned wanting to combine two drives into one, an LVM "group" can span multiple disks
[07:28] <pleia2> actually, I think wikipedia has some good diagrams
[07:28] <pleia2> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_Volume_Manager_(Linux)
[07:29] <pleia2> it also allows you more flexibility with partitioning, you can shrink or grow the size of volumes within a group without requiring them to be contiguous on the disk
[07:29] <Unguided> pleia2: you have pulled information so quickly. where can i get the information you are pulling. is it from ubuntuforums wikipedia etc. Can you give me a first place to look for information. im not afraid to look it up myself just dont know where to start looking
[07:30] <pleia2> help.ubuntu.com/community/ is community-maintained documentation, so for some of the things I just google for: help.ubuntu.com vnc
[07:31] <pleia2> or whatever, but honestly I mostly know where all this stuff is because I've been doing it a while, so replicating my brain into a searchable online resource would be good
[07:31] <pleia2> my day job is a linux sysadmin
[07:31] <Unguided> okay. out of curiosity, how long have you been using linux?
[07:32] <pleia2> started in 2002, got my first full time sysadmin job in 2007
[07:32] <Unguided> Awesome. Im a nurse by trade computer user/lover by heart
[07:33] <pleia2> cool, I did accounting for a while
[07:33] <pleia2> mostly just to pay the bills though, sysadmining is my true calling :)
[07:34] <Unguided> do u happen to know if the drivers for the new ceton corporation cablecard card have been developed yet. I would eventually like to get rid of my tivos and build my own to suit my needs.
[07:35] <pleia2> unfortunately I don't know, I've had a few mythtv systems but never had cable
[07:35] <pleia2> haven't paid much attention to the state of cable cards
[07:36] <pleia2> mythtv == common linux PVR
[07:36] <Unguided> does mythtv work with satellite as well. if im not mistaken, tivo is nothing more than a myth frontend on my end and a backend on theirs or vice versa.
[07:37] <pleia2> not sure :\
[07:40] <Unguided> when i was first looking at servers for my home, i looked at ubuntu but backed away b/c of my lack of knowledge. now even the network attached storage devices run linux like drobo etc. now I think it is time to bite the bullet and learn linux before the boat leaves without me
[07:41] <pleia2> it certainly has made a lot of progress in the past few years, welcome :)
[07:43] <Unguided> Yeah ubuntu is known even by the new computer users i know even though they dont know exactly what it is. ubuntu has basically turned the linux distros on their head in some respects. not taking away from the other distros. they all have their place
[07:45] <Unguided> I guess i am going to go "play" or read or something linux related. thanks for all of your help answering my questions
[07:45] <pleia2> sure, enjoy!
[11:41] <BiDDo> hi all
[11:42] <BiDDo> hoping someone in here may have come across the guide i cannot find
[11:42] <bioterror> !ask | BiDDo
[11:42] <ubot2> BiDDo: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[11:43] <BiDDo> i swa a manual last night somewhere that had little exersises to complete at the end of the chapters and it seemed like it would be useful
[11:43] <BiDDo> i was typing
[11:43] <nlsthzn> BiDDo: That is a bit... vague...
[11:43] <BiDDo> sorry
[11:44] <bioterror> haha
[11:44] <bioterror> I'm not following
[11:44] <BiDDo> basically it appeared to be a guide to ubuntu and it also said that it had little exersises in there to test your knowledge... like a workbook at school
[11:45] <BiDDo> im doing my head in becuase i know i saw it somwhere
[11:45] <nlsthzn> browser history?
[11:45] <bioterror> nlsthzn, just saying same :D
[11:45] <Yorvyk> BiDDo, look through your browser history
[11:46] <nlsthzn> great minds think a like?
[11:46] <bioterror> nlsthzn, indeed
[11:47] <BiDDo> lol
[11:47] <BiDDo> fried it 3hrs ago
[11:47] <BiDDo> then realised htat was bad
[11:47] <BiDDo> hadnt runn cc in a while and the pc was getting a bit sluggish
[11:49] <nlsthzn> BiDDo: Dang...
[11:50] <BiDDo> i know
[11:50] <BiDDo> is there a way to recover it that you know of
[11:50] <BiDDo> i know it win but
[11:50] <BiDDo> :(
[11:55] <nlsthzn> I doubt it... part of the beauty of the CCcleaner
[12:07] <nlsthzn> BiDDo: all I can suggest is to try real hard to go to as many sites and do as many searchs as you can remeber of what you did last night... and maybe something triggers a memory or rings a bell
[13:20] <shahan> Internet Connection problem with my 10MB Duplex Mode System on Maverick
[13:22] <shahan> sudo mii-tool -F 10baseT-FD
[13:22] <shahan> I used this command before to connet my net before about 1 year ago
[13:22] <shahan> within this time I have changed the ISP I used
[13:23] <shahan> now again I have chosen this due to some reason
[13:23] <shahan> but now its not working now
[13:23] <shahan> but all the system it works on windows is same as it was before one year
[13:23] <duanedesign> hello shahan
[13:23] <shahan> duanedesign: yes
[13:27] <duanedesign> shahan: do you get an error message?
[13:27] <shahan> duanedesign: সগ
[13:27] <shahan> duanedesign: no
[13:30] <shahan> I have followed the follwing way later to connect http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-static-ip/
[13:30] <shahan> it connected but only for the first time
[13:30] <shahan> now its disconnected
[13:31] <shahan> and the network panel is vanish from my top panel
[13:41] <duanedesign> shahan: do you have a static address?
[13:41] <shahan> duanedesign: yes
[13:47] <duanedesign> shahan: my example /etc/network/interfaces file is a liittle different then the one in that guide.
[13:48] <duanedesign> http://paste.ubuntu.com/547221/
[13:48] <shahan> duanedesign: ok let me see the issue more
[13:50] <nlsthzn> hobgoblin: stalker :p
[13:50] <hobgoblin> absolutely ...
[13:50] <hobgoblin> :)
[13:51] <nlsthzn> :)
[13:51] <hobgoblin> Iseezall
[13:51] <nlsthzn> had a hunch... a small one...
[13:51] <hobgoblin> lol
[13:52] <nlsthzn> your avvie is distrubing btw :) (oh bugger, just remebered this isn't an off-topic channel)... sorry
[13:55] <hobgoblin> it is fairly disturbing I'd agree ;)
[14:51] <nick123> hi
[14:51] <nick123> hi all
[14:54] <deejoe> hi nick123
[14:55] <stlsaint> nick123: sup
[15:03] <nick123> sorry afk
[15:03] <nick123> i need help with user permissions on Ubuntu 10.10
[15:05] <nick123> the users that i have added are the desktop users ...i dont want users to access each others home folders
[15:13] <deejoe> hmm
[15:13] <nick123> hey joe can you help me in this
[15:13] <deejoe> sudo chmod -R go-rwx /home/exampleuser
[15:13] <deejoe> sudo to do the operation as rood
[15:13] <deejoe> root
[15:13] <deejoe> chmod to change the access mode
[15:13] <nick123> wha does go-rwx
[15:13] <deejoe> -R is recursive
[15:14] <deejoe> go is to specify the permissions for 'g'roup and 'o'ther
[15:14] <deejoe> - is to remove permissions
[15:14] <deejoe> rwx removes read, write, and execute/descend (descend for directories)
[15:16] <deejoe> so, it recurses the directories, removing all access permissions for anyone other than the user herself
[15:16] <deejoe> hth nick123
[15:17] <nick123> will try that
[15:17] <nick123> but this operating will allow only local rights on the home folder for theuser
[15:17] <nick123> right
[15:21] <nick123> i am using vsftpd
[15:22] <nick123> in which i am using these accounts
[15:24] <nick123> but now the root account is also listed in the home so what is happening is other home folders are not accessible but root is
[15:38] <kristian-aalborg> hi pppl
[15:38] <kristian-aalborg> or ppl... you know what I mean ;)
[15:39] <kristian-aalborg> I'm thinking of doing a netinst on my desktop and put XFCE on it, but I *need* tv-out to work
[15:39] <kristian-aalborg> so the question is, this is done by X, not xfce, right?
[15:41] <geirha> kristian-aalborg: Yes, it's handled by xorg.
[15:41] <kristian-aalborg> gret
[15:41] <kristian-aalborg> great... can't spell today
[15:48] <nick123> hi guys
[15:48] <nick123> need help
[15:48] <kristian-aalborg> hi nick123
[15:48] <nick123> i have configured vsftpd on ubuntu 10.10
[15:49] <nick123> i am having issue configuring the user permissions on that
[15:49] <nick123> the users i have created in the ubuntu are able to view each others folders
[15:52] <nick123> hey kristian....u there
[15:52] <nick123> ??
[15:56] <kristian-aalborg> yup
[15:56] <nick123> can you help in this case
[15:56] <kristian-aalborg> sorry... I never heard of the program
[15:56] <kristian-aalborg> but stay around, it's likely that someone here can lend you a hand
[15:57] <nick123> k
[18:45] <suprengr> ...my planet wishes all your planet a peaceful Christmas.. and thanks you all for the help
[19:13] <fatharrahman> hi
[19:14] <fatharrahman> i I increased the work stations of my desktop would this make my computer lighter for more menus ?
[19:15] <stlsaint> fatharrahman: work stations?
[19:15] <fatharrahman> if*
[19:15] <stlsaint> fatharrahman: do you mean desktops
[19:16] <fatharrahman> yep
[19:16] <fatharrahman> work spaces
[19:16] <fatharrahman> or virtual desktops
[19:18] <stlsaint> fatharrahman: adding more desktops will not make performance better, its a user tool to organize better
[19:19] <fatharrahman> thanks stlsaint
[19:26] <fatharrahman> why google earth is not working in Ubuntu
[19:27] <stlsaint> i dunno, i dont use google earth
[19:28] <JoeMaverickSett> fatharrahman: are you using Ubuntu 10.10?
[19:28] <fatharrahman> yes
[19:29] <JoeMaverickSett> fatharrahman: follow this guide, read the comment too ---> http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-install-google-earth-in-ubuntu-10-10-maverick
[19:29] <JoeMaverickSett> fatharrahman: as one comment point out, you'd have to "sudo apt-get install lsb-core" to make google earth work.
[19:30] <JoeMaverickSett> fatharrahman: it does work, i just installed it today. :)
[19:31] <fatharrahman> you are beautiful JoeMaverickSett , sudo apt-get install THANK YOU ;)
[19:31] <JoeMaverickSett> :D
[19:33] <fatharrahman> I want to send some files from one computer to another I set file sharing in both but unable please help
[19:33] <kristian-aalborg> hi
[19:33] <kristian-aalborg> just installed ubuntu 10.4, had mint before
[19:33] <bioterror> fatharrahman, use SCP
[19:33] <bioterror> or in nautilus ssh://computer/
[19:34] <fatharrahman> whats scp and where and how
[19:34] <kristian-aalborg> can't get digital audio to run
[19:34] <JoeMaverickSett> fatharrahman: yeah, listen to bioterror ;)
[19:34] <bioterror> but charlesa has made nice introduction to Samba
[19:34] <bioterror> should I really grep some logs
[19:34] <JoeMaverickSett> kristian-aalborg: have you checked the Sound Preferences? to start off with.
[19:35] <kristian-aalborg> hi JoeMaverickSett
[19:35] <JoeMaverickSett> hello kristian-aalborg :)
[19:35] <fatharrahman> bioterror I can understand nunca
[19:35] <kristian-aalborg> yes, alsamixer... I turned everything on and cranked it up
[19:35] <bioterror> http://charlesa.net/tutorials/samba.php
[19:35] <bioterror> there you go fatharrahman
[19:36] <kristian-aalborg> blacklist snd_hda_intel - I also added this to blacklist.conf as it used to be neccesary the last time I was on ubuntu
[19:37] <fatharrahman> should I read all those bioterror ? can't you give me quick shots to transfer files now
[19:37] <bioterror> fatharrahman, what are you transfering and are both computer ubuntus or what
[19:38] <fatharrahman> one is Maverik Meerkat and am transferring Ubuntu .iso file to lubuntu computer
[19:38] <bioterror> okay
[19:38] <JoeMaverickSett> fatharrahman: try this; http://ubuntumanual.org/posts/154/copy-files-remotely-using-scp-in-ubuntu
[19:39] <bioterror> scp fooo.iso fatharr@lubuntu:.
[19:39] <bioterror> that's example
[19:39] <bioterror> replace lubuntu with ip address if you dont have a working dns in your homenetwork
[19:39] <JoeMaverickSett> kristian-aalborg: might want to try this stuff; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting << i'm not really good with sound stuff, never really had problem myself. someone who knows might help you out though, if you stick around. :)
[19:40] <kristian-aalborg> JoeMaverickSett: the killer is that it was working an hour ago on mint ;)
[19:40] <JoeMaverickSett> kristian-aalborg: doh! a really killer. :|
[19:40] <fatharrahman> what's that   I have 192.168.1.3 but  computer with lubuntu got ip of localhost no numbers
[19:41] <bioterror> whaaat
[19:41] <bioterror> hard to send anything then
[19:41] <bioterror> btw fatharrahman, for the lubuntu sudo apt-get install gvfs-backends
[19:41] <fatharrahman> when I open vinagre in lubuntu it show me only localhost
[19:42] <fatharrahman> ok let me try
[19:44] <fatharrahman> it say the following packages are already installed  bioterror
[19:44] <bioterror> good
[19:44] <fatharrahman> then? please
[19:45] <bioterror> well, I gave the scp command
[19:45] <bioterror> what does the ifconfig say on the lubuntu machine
[19:46] <fatharrahman> how to start scp ? with ssh connection ?
[19:46] <kristian-aalborg> bbl
[19:47] <bioterror> fatharrahman, open terminal
[19:47] <bioterror> scp path/to/file.iso user@lubuntu:Documents/.
[19:47] <fatharrahman> done
[19:49] <fatharrahman> scp path/to/file.iso user@lubuntu:Documents
[19:49] <fatharrahman> ssh: Could not resolve hostname lubuntu: Name or service not known
[19:49] <fatharrahman> lost connection
[19:58] <fatharrahman> bioterror: I typed :scp ~/Documents/ubuntu-10.04.1-desktop-i386 ubuntu@ubuntu: Documents (the username of lubuntu is ubuntu) but I don't know where is the error
[19:58] <bioterror> well
[19:58] <bioterror> compare it to mine
[19:59] <bioterror> after ubuntu@ubuntu:Documents/.
[19:59] <bioterror> it must be exact
[19:59] <fatharrahman> ok
[20:00] <bioterror> fatharrahman, remember that you can complete words with tabkey
[20:00] <bioterror> like that ubuntu.isofile
[20:00] <bioterror> and directories on your local computer
[20:00] <fatharrahman> ok
[20:01] <fatharrahman> bioterror: ssh: Could not resolve hostname ubuntu:
[20:01] <bioterror> well
[20:01] <bioterror> you dont have dns
[20:02] <bioterror> you should use ubuntu@192.168.1.x:Documents/.
[20:02] <firewall_03> whats the command to see what version you are running?
[20:04] <bioterror> lsb_release -ra
[20:05] <firewall_03> bioterror, Danka
[20:07] <fatharrahman> bioterror: my dns is 192.168.1.1
[20:08] <bioterror> ip address
[20:08] <bioterror> is that .1.1 the lubuntu computer
[20:08] <fatharrahman> how to know my ip address ?
[20:08] <fatharrahman> no
[20:09] <bioterror> ifconfig interface
[20:09] <bioterror> like ifconfig eth0
[20:09] <bioterror> wlan0
[20:11] <fatharrahman> 192.168.1.2
[20:11] <bioterror> now you know it
[20:12] <fatharrahman> lubuntu
[20:12] <fatharrahman> 192.168.1.3
[20:12] <fatharrahman> then please ?
[20:15] <fatharrahman> bioterror:  connect to host 192.168.1.3 port 22: Connection refused
[20:15] <bioterror> sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[20:15] <holstein> fatharrahman: can you ssh in?
[20:16] <bioterror> holstein, openssh-server is not in default installation
[20:16] <holstein> ssh you@192.168.1.3
[20:16] <holstein> get that working, then the other should work...
[20:16] <fatharrahman> ok
[20:16] <fatharrahman> am working on that
[20:17] <bioterror> JoeMaverickSett, what do you think, if scp uses ssh to connect, can you ssh in :D
[20:17] <JoeMaverickSett> hopefully....nope, i'm afraid. unless you get ssh working.
[20:19] <bioterror> fatharrahman, you'll find out how great ssh is
[20:21] <fatharrahman> yes it is connected bioterror but what's the .....@ip  is it the sender or the receiver?
[20:21] <bioterror> fatharrahman, like today I remotely installed to my desktop 64bit java, I ssh'd to my desktop computer with X11 forwarding, fired chromium up (after killing it ;) and confirmed that the /usr/lib/chromium/plugins/ did do the trick
[20:22] <bioterror> and I did that with my laptop as I was watching my son sleeping
[20:22] <fatharrahman> ;D
[20:22] <fatharrahman> :D
[20:25] <fatharrahman> bioterror : thank you
[20:25] <bioterror> np
[20:26] <fatharrahman> but am a dump
[20:26] <bioterror> that's some useful stuff
[20:26] <bioterror> I bet you're going to use scp alot now you know how it works
[20:26] <bioterror> fatharrahman, I can tell you a secret
[20:27] <fatharrahman> what's other usful stuffs ? tel me santa
[20:27] <bioterror> lftp can handle file transfers using sshd and it supports continuing transfers if it cuts
[20:27] <fatharrahman> tell
[20:27] <fatharrahman> wow
[20:40] <kristian-aalborg> hi again
[20:42] <holstein> bioterror: do you have experience seeding torrent via lftp ?
[20:42] <bioterror> whaaat
[20:42] <bioterror> are you talking about making a seedbox?
[20:42] <holstein> i just need to seed 2 iso's
[20:42] <firewall_03> whats the command to change your root password
[20:43] <bioterror> firewall_03, sudo passwd root
[20:43] <holstein> and ive only done that with transmission on a desktop box
[20:43] <firewall_03> bioterror, tasha kerr
[20:43] <holstein> im thinking about trying to learn how to do this on my server
[20:43] <holstein> transmission-ncurses ;)
[20:44] <holstein> lftp is probably not the proper tool
[20:44] <holstein> i was just browsing the man page
[20:45] <holstein> hey, transmissioncli :)
[20:45] <firewall_03> bioterror, what I meant is how do I change the password I type in when i used SUDO
[20:46] <bioterror> passwd
[20:47] <firewall_03> bioterror, thats what I did and it asked for my old passwd
[20:47] <bioterror> ofcourse it asks
[20:47] <firewall_03> lol no after I changed it
[20:57] <firewall_03> ok...good talk
[21:11] <firewall_03> whats up nit-wit
[21:14] <nit-wit> firewall_03, just chillin
[21:14] <nit-wit> firewall_03, is it Xmas where your at yet
[21:16] <firewall_03> xmas eve
[21:43] <ubuntu> hi
[21:43] <ubuntu> hi
[21:44] <UndiFineD> hello
[21:47] <nhandler> Guest25183: It is best to use a nick that you actually own
[21:49] <Guest25183> how to change my nickname  nhandler
[21:49] <nhandler> Guest25183: /nick NEWNICK
[21:49] <nhandler> freenode recommends setting up your nick in this fashion: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup (all steps are required for unaffiliated cloaks) Guest25183
[21:50] <Guest25183> am new nhndler please step by step in XChat what tab and where ?
[21:51] <holstein> Guest25183: you can just do that here
[21:51] <holstein>  /nick whatever
[21:57] <ubuntu_chief> is this good :)
[21:57] <stlsaint> lol
[21:58] <holstein> works for me :)
[21:58] <stlsaint> ubuntu_chief: maybe since you are "new" your more like a indian instead of a chief!!
[21:58] <holstein> you can read that link about regestering that nick
[21:58] <bioterror> I think that nick is missing some imagination
[21:58] <bioterror> :)
[21:58] <bioterror> and as stlsaint said, it's a misleading
[21:59] <ubuntu_chief> :)
[22:00] <ubuntu_chief> so I should not ask any Qs and only answer most difficult ones :)
[22:02] <stlsaint> ubuntu_chief: dont you have any personal nicks you go by?
[22:03] <stlsaint> mom call you "pudding_drop" maybe??
[22:03] <nit-wit> ubuntu_chief, try  Frankenputer
[22:04] <wit-nit> is this cool?
[22:04] <wit-nit> I liked this
[22:05] <nit-wit> wit-nit, thats good, could be knit-wit
[22:05] <bioterror> wit-nit, http://paradoxdgn.com/junk/avatars/trollface.jpg is that you?
[22:06] <wit-nit> bioterror: you terrified me :(
[22:08] <UndiFineD> oh this is confusing
[22:08] <UndiFineD> I have nick colors set up, but nit-wit and wit-nit have the same color
[22:49] <bioterror> evening bodhi
[22:50] <bodhizazen> 'lo bioterror
[22:51] <bodhizazen> irc seems slow today
[22:52] <bioterror> I think I greeted you pretty fast ;)
[23:03] <kristian-aalborg> hi again
[23:04] <kristian-aalborg> so I tried to follow the tutorial - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[23:05] <kristian-aalborg> this is the output of the alsa-info script: http://pastebin.com/GHQF1yuJ
[23:09] <bioterror> kristian-aalborg, are you using spdif or what
[23:09] <kristian-aalborg> no, but I'm trying to
[23:10] <kristian-aalborg> bioterror: my radeon video card has sound output too, I'm thinking that might cause the "confusion"
[23:11] <kristian-aalborg> here's the output of lshw: http://pastebin.com/SSR9qC05
[23:12] <bioterror> sudo alsaconf
[23:13] <bioterror> have you tried that?
[23:19] <kristian-aalborg> yes
[23:20] <kristian-aalborg> it gives the latter version
[23:21] <kristian-aalborg> actually, I have three sound cards.... I also have a very modest onboard thingy
[23:22] <kristian-aalborg> sudo alsaconf says version 1.0.23
[23:25] <kristian-aalborg> hurm, I'll reboot... brb
[23:29] <kristian-aalborg> back
[23:34] <kristian-aalborg> I tried switching everything back on in alsamixer... nothing happened
[23:34] <kristian-aalborg> my headphones work fine regardless of the settings/ stuff I do, it seems
[23:58] <kristian-aalborg> trying to recompile driver via script from forums... I don't like the different version numbers