[00:00] <doko> ScottK: please do not *workaround* ld build failures without any notice, and even the workaround was wrong / very questionable
[00:00] <ScottK> doko: Which one?
[00:01] <doko> gpgme1.0. are there others?
[00:01] <ScottK> I don't think I've done any others that way.
[00:01] <ScottK> doko: You'd rather I fixed the build system instead of just exporting the LDFLAGS?
[00:02] <doko> yes, or file a bug report and cc me
[00:02] <doko> and using LDFLAGS for libraries is *wrong*
[00:05] <ScottK> OK
[00:05] <ScottK> Won't do it again.
[00:05] <doko> thanks
[00:07] <ScottK> In related news, the pth thing has me confused.
[00:07] <doko> the macro is in the gpgme1.0 package
[00:09] <ScottK> The reason I thought the problem might be in pth was that when I rebuilt pth, the nature of the error changes.
[00:09] <ScottK> If you look at the gpgme1.0 build log it complains about something linking related.
[00:13] <doko> ScottK: we know that we don't want pth, so maybe just disable this autoconf check? I didn't analyze the build failure
[00:14] <ScottK> doko: If you think that's best, I can do that.
[00:14] <ScottK> Gotta go.  Airplane is about to land.
[00:14] <doko> it's not a fix, but a workaround which should work for all archs. subscribe Janimo
[00:17] <Sarvatt> yofel: pretty sure the fix for the copy/paste bug is http://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/commit/?h=gtk-2-24&id=120915d6deff
[00:18] <robert_ancell> sladen, I've uploaded the previous version.  Seems something is still wrong in 2.23.3
[00:18] <yofel> let me try to apply that
[00:21] <yofel> ah, that was the ubuntu3 patch
[00:24] <Sarvatt> yofel, ari-tczew: copy/paste works right ubuntu3 gtk2
[00:25] <yofel> I'm updating right now
[00:27] <Keybuk> I love those mailing list threads that start "we all sat down in person and agreed this" and then proceed to turn into 1,000 mails disagreeing
[01:13] <ari-tczew> Keybuk: do you mean clipboard case?
[01:14] <Keybuk> ari-tczew: huh?
[01:14] <ari-tczew> Keybuk: I'm thinking what you mean: [01:27] <Keybuk> I love those mailing list threads that start "we all sat down in person and agreed this" and then proceed to turn into 1,000 mails disagreeing
[01:17] <Keybuk> oh, no
[01:17] <Keybuk> there was a thread on the D-Bus Mailing List entitled "User bus conclusion"
[01:17] <Keybuk> it was a post resulting from an in-person discussion at the Boston GNOME Summit in October
[01:17] <Keybuk> where they'd hammered out and agreed the way forward
[01:17] <Keybuk> the thread has about 1,000 mails, all violently disagreeing ;-)
[01:17] <Keybuk> and I'm pretty sure everyone who agreed in that thread broke ranks along the way too
[01:17] <ari-tczew> okok
[01:18] <Laney> found it
[01:18] <Laney> -ECHAN
[01:18] <Keybuk> Laney: lost it ;-)
[01:18] <Keybuk> err, all agreed at that meeting, broke rangs along the way in the thraed
[01:19] <ari-tczew> yofel: and? did you update system?
[01:19] <yofel> see +1
[01:20] <yofel> ah, you're not there..
[01:20] <ari-tczew> hmmmm?
[01:20] <ari-tczew> please, I'm only human
[01:20] <yofel> with ubuntu3 all gtk apps work fine *except* firefox and thunderbird, those crash as soon as I select something now
[01:20] <yofel> ari-tczew: I posted that in #ubuntu+1 already
[01:21] <ari-tczew> yofel: is restart necessary?
[01:21] <yofel> I logged out
[01:22] <ari-tczew> ok thanks
[01:26] <ebroder> Keybuk: Was there any useful conclusion from that thread? I'm conceptually interested in what they're arguing about, but not interested enough to read past message, oh, I don't know, 2
[01:37] <ari-tczew> could any archive admin unsubscribe team from bug 693982 ?
[01:48] <kees> does anything actually delete the /var/cache/apt-xapian-index directories?
[06:09] <jdstrand> hallyn, apw: fyi-- I have a reproducer (though convoluted) for my natty/kvm issues that I mentioned yesterday and I just filed bug #694029
[06:09]  * jdstrand heads out
[09:24] <nullslash> Hello?
[09:26] <iulian> Morning.
[09:27] <nullslash> Hello World
[09:27] <nullslash> Is anyone here is alive ?
[09:28] <iulian> Probably.  I can't say for sure.
[11:33] <jelmer_> doko_: hi
[11:34] <doko_> jelmer_: hi
[11:37] <jelmer_> doko_: Sorry for the interruption, I think I found what I was looking for.
[11:37] <jelmer_> doko_: one of the changes that's cherrypicked by the latest python2.7 upload breaks bzr
[11:38] <doko_> jelmer_: no cherrypicking, just the branch
[11:39] <doko_> jelmer_: which package version does work for you?
[11:39] <jelmer_> doko_: ah, ok. Either way, it's a bzr bug not a Python bug so this is something that we can fix in Bazaar.
[11:40] <doko_> ok
[11:40] <jelmer_> doko_: 2.7.1-1ubuntu4 works
[11:40] <jelmer_> 2.7.1-2 uses an argument to readline() in one of the http functions, and the file-like object Bazaar passes in doesn't support an argument to its readline().
[11:57] <doko_> jelmer_: that's the fix for Issue #6791
[11:57] <doko_> r87383
[11:59] <jelmer_> ah, thanks
[13:09] <shadeslayer> isnt there a apt sources line which automatically chooses a ubuntu mirror for you?
[15:53] <Nece228> hi
[15:54] <Nece228> i want to know
[15:54] <Nece228> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/665546
[15:54] <Nece228> why this bug still doesnt have any attention?
[15:54] <Nece228> i know this is issue with xorg-server 1.9
[15:55] <Nece228> but arch linux in aur has package which fix this issue
[15:56] <Nece228> and actually as i see xorg-server 1.9.3 fixes this issue
[15:57] <charlie-tca> shadeslayer: I don't how to do it from command line, but if you open Synaptic Package Manager, Settings, Repositories, Download from ...    Other
[15:57] <charlie-tca> there will be a button to pick the best server
[15:57] <shadeslayer> charlie-tca: no not that
[15:57] <shadeslayer> mvo told me about a custom deb line which automatically figures out servers
[16:02] <shadeslayer>  also this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/547268
[16:02] <shadeslayer> seems a) on upgrade flash is removed and b) when you install flash apt-get goes wonky
[16:17] <juliank> shadeslayer: APT is happy, there's a bug in nspluginwrapper
[16:20] <shadeslayer> juliank: ah .. so is the package fixed? or a WIP?
[16:22] <juliank> shadeslayer: I just read your log, and there is a segfault when running the postinst script of nspluginwrapper, so there is a bug there; but it may be that it is yet to be reported
[16:22] <shadeslayer> ohk .. ill report one then
[16:28] <shadeslayer> juliank: bug 694137
[16:36] <cjwatson> kees: quit panicking about tor - it was nothing to do with autosyncs, tor was a manual sync.  it's done now.
[16:36] <cjwatson> micahg: the last huge autosync will be on 30 Dec
[16:36] <cjwatson> per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule
[16:47] <psusi> cjwatson, fyi the last day or two daily livecds have had plymouth breakage for me.  sometimes it doesn't show the logo until just before x takes over, sometimes it makes the monitor switch into standby until x takes over
[16:48] <psusi> and sometimes the kernel hard hangs... even magic sysrq doesn't work
[16:48] <cjwatson> psusi: I'm not going to look at plymouth at all until the new year
[16:48] <cjwatson> so no point telling me now :)
[16:48] <cjwatson> I'll just forget
[16:49] <psusi> k... just thought you might know of a recent change that probably did it so I wanted to let you know now before it gets burried under other changes
[16:49] <cjwatson> I'm not going to look at it on Christmas Eve, sorry
[16:49] <psusi> sure.. just mental note about when the breakage happened ;)
[16:50] <cjwatson> no mental note will survive Christmas
[16:50] <psusi> lol
[16:50] <cjwatson> if you want anything remembered, file abug
[16:50] <cjwatson> *a bug
[16:50] <psusi> hrm.... ok
[17:04] <Sarvatt> cjwatson, psusi: probably this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/693093
[17:33] <micahg> cjwatson: ok, wasn't sure if someone was going to be around for that, thanks
[17:44] <micahg> cjwatson: have a good holiday weekend :)
[17:45] <cjwatson> I intend to, thanks