[01:04] <A4_322> hi, I seem to be having a problem with disk partitioning
[01:05] <A4_322> I installed Ubuntu Studio, but when I booted Windows 7, it said it couldn't use the empty disk space because the partion was in the wrong style... GPT I think it was
[01:05] <A4_322> so I did it over again, and put Windows on first
[01:06] <A4_322> but... linux couldn't find the windows partition, it treated it like an unpartitioned disk
[01:06] <A4_322> Any advice?
[01:08] <holstein> ey A4_322
[01:08] <A4_322> ?
[01:08] <holstein> hey*
[01:08] <A4_322> hi, can you help me with this?
[01:09]  * holstein looking
[01:09] <holstein> SO...
[01:09] <holstein> you had win 7 installed
[01:09] <holstein> you installed buntu
[01:09] <holstein> and what?
[01:09] <A4_322> ubuntu didn't find the windows partition
[01:09] <holstein> when?
[01:09] <holstein> during the install?
[01:09] <A4_322> when I was telling it where to install it to, yeah
[01:10] <holstein> is that a problem?
[01:10] <holstein> ubuntu didnt give you a grub entry for win?
[01:10] <A4_322> well... yeah. If I re-write the partition table, windows (and my other partitions dissapear)
[01:10] <A4_322> and no, it didn't
[01:10] <A4_322> oh, be right back
[01:11] <holstein> A4_322: i would boot a live CD
[01:11] <holstein> and look at the partitions in gparted
[01:12] <holstein> maybe use that live installer
[01:12] <holstein> seems to be a little more friendly
[01:12] <holstein> you can make that install ubuntustudio
[01:12] <holstein> !vanilla
[01:12] <holstein> ubuntu = ubuntustudio
[01:12] <A4_322> hmm.. does ubuntu studio have a live install?
[01:13] <holstein> no
[01:13] <A4_322> oh... sorry
[01:13] <A4_322> I didn't realize what "vanilla" meant
[01:13] <holstein> only the alternate style installer
[01:13] <holstein> yeah, you can just add whatever you want to the normal vanilla one
[01:13] <A4_322> okay
[01:13] <holstein> *assuming* this help you get your issue resovled
[01:14] <holstein> i would make sure i have all my data in place
[01:14] <A4_322> ok, thanks for your help, I'll try it
[01:14] <holstein> and images made if needed
[01:14] <holstein> maybe with clonezilla or something
[01:14] <A4_322> this is a brand new PC
[01:14] <holstein> ive never been all that worried about losing a windows partition though ;)
[01:14] <A4_322> I literally have nothing to lose
[01:14] <holstein> AH
[01:14] <holstein> good
[01:14] <holstein> did it come with a CD ?
[01:15] <holstein> a restore disc?
[01:15] <A4_322> no, it's a custom build
[01:15] <holstein> cool
[01:15] <holstein> so you just have a win 7 disc then
[01:15] <A4_322> I'd like to install Windows XP, Windows 7, and Ubuntu studio on it
[01:15] <A4_322> I have a disc of each
[01:15] <holstein> you'll sort it out then
[01:15] <A4_322> I hope so =)
[01:15] <holstein> it gets hairy when you need to preserve a backup partition
[01:15] <holstein> from a vendor
[01:15] <holstein> nah
[01:16] <holstein> you can totally bork that
[01:16] <A4_322> bork?
[01:16] <holstein> and your just out the time you spent
[01:16] <holstein> bork = screw it all up
[01:16] <A4_322> yeah... I already screwed it up twice
[01:16] <holstein> you want to do the win installs first
[01:16] <A4_322> but no harm done... reformat the hard drive and start again
[01:16] <holstein> and i would leave the space for ubuntu
[01:17] <A4_322> I already installed ubuntu studio, should I take it off (for the third time argh)
[01:17] <holstein> however, buntu will resize
[01:17] <holstein> A4_322: i would get a plain old ubuntu live CD
[01:17] <holstein> or a gparted live disc
[01:17] <A4_322> ok
[01:17] <A4_322> so... start over
[01:17] <A4_322> alright
[01:17] <holstein> i like http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[01:18] <A4_322> sounds like a good idea... the best I have anyway
[01:18] <holstein> and just get a look at whats going on first
[01:18] <holstein> you might not have to start over
[01:18] <holstein> depends
[01:18] <holstein> A4_322: what are the formatting options with the win7 install?
[01:18] <holstein> is there something different or newer than ntfs going on?
[01:18] <holstein> that im unaware of
[01:19] <A4_322> I'm pretty sure it's NTFS
[01:19] <A4_322> yeah
[01:19] <A4_322> it's NTFS
[01:19] <holstein> hmmm
[01:19] <holstein> buntu should be seeing it...
[01:19] <A4_322> it doesn't
[01:19] <holstein> well, the live CD should mount it
[01:19] <ailo> so, it's not exfat?
[01:19] <holstein> that would be a good trouble-shooting step i suppose
[01:19] <A4_322> I'll try the live cd, if it doesn't work, I'll come back...
[01:19] <A4_322> time to eat for now
[01:19] <A4_322> thanks for your help!
[01:20] <A4_322> bye for now
[01:20] <holstein> well, come back and thanks us when your rockin and rollin :)
[01:20] <A4_322> sure :)
[01:20] <holstein> good luck
[01:20] <A4_322> thanks, all's gone well so far
[01:20] <A4_322> except the OS
[01:20] <A4_322> bye then
[01:22] <ailo> Don't know much about windows 7, but from what I've understood it supports exFAT
[01:23] <holstein> ailo: can we mount that?
[01:23] <ailo> According to wikipedia, leopard only just added support for it, but linux hasn't yet
[01:24] <holstein> :/
[01:24] <holstein> that could be the deal
[01:24] <holstein> if its the default setting in the installer
[01:24] <holstein> maybe what we just talked about will make A4_322 aware
[01:25] <holstein> and choose NTFS
[01:25] <ailo> Well, maybe he will figure it out next time around..
[01:31] <ailo> holstein: about testing ubuntustudio, any tips?
[01:32] <holstein> i recently got lucid, maverick and natty on a laptop with firewire
[01:32] <holstein> so i can test my firewire card
[01:33] <holstein> i use the PPA purge function in ubuntu tweak
[01:33] <holstein> i really havent even had a chance to add abogani's kernel PPA's for natty though
[01:33] <holstein> ailo: what are you interested in testing?
[01:34] <ailo> I'm about to install natty on 32 bits and 64 bits. So far only on Virtualbox
[01:34] <ailo> I use pci and built in cards with nvidia graphics
[01:35] <holstein> i think you can learn alot from virtual installs
[01:35] <holstein> i wanted the bare metal for the kernels and the firewire
[01:36] <holstein> might be nice to test those newer kernels with your nvidia hardware
[01:36] <holstein> not a deal breaker though
[01:36] <holstein> do what you feel comfortalbe with
[01:36] <ailo> I just used Virtualbox to get the feel for it. Can't do any 3d or low latency sound.
[01:36] <holstein> i have a somewhat spare machine
[01:36] <holstein> 64bit lappy
[01:37] <ailo> But what about some sort of test suites?
[01:38] <ailo> I've been trying to find out what is out there, but it seems there's not much out there
[01:38] <holstein> you mean like a package?
[01:38] <ailo> or a script
[01:38] <holstein> like ubuntu-studio-test-blah
[01:38] <holstein> hmmm
[01:39] <holstein> i dont know of a script or a package
[01:39] <holstein> i think so much of the performance depends on the hardware too
[01:39] <holstein> its challenging, but not impossible to have such a thing
[01:40] <ailo> I suppose a lot has to do with the kernel itself, how well it works with your hardware
[01:42] <holstein> i know abogani would appreciate testing his natty kernels
[01:42] <ailo> I think it would be interesting to compare results from different hardware.
[01:42] <holstein> even in VM i suppose
[01:42] <holstein> ailo: it would have to be a stupid simple script
[01:43] <holstein> and we'd have to have somewhere to collect it
[01:43] <holstein> ailo: are you on the mailing list?
[01:43] <ailo> yes
[01:43] <holstein> if you think about it, mail that around
[01:43] <holstein> and mention maybe a way to add the results easily
[01:44] <holstein> somewhere on the new site
[01:44] <holstein> OR a link from the site to a wiki page that we could easily set up
[01:44] <ailo> I did mail something about kernel testing on both ubuntustudio-dev and lau. Seems like it is not an easy task to test a kernel
[01:44] <holstein> wiki's can be a pain though
[01:45] <ailo> wiki's seem to get easily bloated and disorganized
[08:08] <ryjyd> hello hello, anyone got eyes on the room?