| === nikolam_ is now known as nikolam | ||
| ShootEmUp | hello | 01:09 |
|---|---|---|
| ShootEmUp | whats up? | 01:10 |
| ShootEmUp | anyone have problems? | 01:13 |
| ShootEmUp | My name peggy, you have problem please | 01:15 |
| ShootEmUp | guess i'll go then, ttyl | 01:18 |
| === ubott2 is now known as ubottu | ||
| reis | hi from turkey at the start on the dos screen it writes no soundcard found but the sound card seems ok | 01:26 |
| charlie-tca | reis: then it is fine | 01:27 |
| charlie-tca | It must need something else working to see it | 01:28 |
| reis | just headfones and the laptops speakers work together | 01:28 |
| reis | someone can help? | 01:31 |
| === Daviey_ is now known as Daviey | ||
| reis | someone can help? | 01:36 |
| ShootEmUp | hello | 01:40 |
| ShootEmUp | My name peggy, you have problem please | 01:40 |
| charlie-tca | Help reis with just headfones and the laptops speakers work together | 01:41 |
| ShootEmUp | they work at the same time? | 01:41 |
| ShootEmUp | I have that problem with my desktop, but I just turn my speakers off | 01:42 |
| reis_ | yes but ı cant turn off speaker when ı do they both go, | 01:44 |
| ShootEmUp | you should be able to just go to audio options, and select just your headphones | 01:44 |
| reis_ | trying | 01:44 |
| ShootEmUp | find the audio options in your menu, under system-pref i think | 01:45 |
| ShootEmUp | tell me when you have them up | 01:45 |
| reis_ | ı dont have system prefecenses :D | 01:46 |
| ShootEmUp | look in your menus for Audio Options | 01:46 |
| ShootEmUp | every menu | 01:46 |
| reis_ | just alsamixer | 01:46 |
| reis_ | no menu at all | 01:46 |
| ShootEmUp | okay, open alsamixer | 01:48 |
| reis_ | opened | 01:48 |
| reis_ | in the alsa mixer no sign for headphones | 01:49 |
| ShootEmUp | anything that says speakers? | 01:49 |
| reis_ | yes | 01:49 |
| reis_ | no not | 01:49 |
| ShootEmUp | mute speakers | 01:49 |
| reis_ | in that meaning | 01:50 |
| ShootEmUp | ohh ok | 01:50 |
| reis_ | ok | 01:50 |
| reis_ | triyin | 01:50 |
| reis_ | no nothing happaned | 01:51 |
| ShootEmUp | did it work? | 01:51 |
| reis_ | no | 01:51 |
| reis_ | voice coming from two places | 01:51 |
| reis_ | when ı shut headphones both go | 01:52 |
| ShootEmUp | your using Xubuntu right? | 01:53 |
| reis_ | ı think there ı must write to terminal 2 things then there becomes a tik in the mixer | 01:53 |
| reis_ | yes 10.10 | 01:53 |
| reis_ | but what was they ı forgot :d | 01:54 |
| ShootEmUp | give me a minute, got to do something | 01:56 |
| reis_ | ok thank you | 01:56 |
| ShootEmUp | try finding the PulseAudio Manager | 02:02 |
| ShootEmUp | It should be in pref I think | 02:02 |
| reis_ | what | 02:02 |
| ShootEmUp | Find the PulseAudio Manager | 02:03 |
| ShootEmUp | just look in your menus | 02:03 |
| reis_ | alsamixer want my sound car name | 02:03 |
| reis_ | what shall ı write | 02:03 |
| ShootEmUp | don't write anything | 02:04 |
| ShootEmUp | what did you go to? | 02:04 |
| reis_ | ok | 02:04 |
| reis_ | dont have pulse audio | 02:05 |
| reis_ | ı must download | 02:05 |
| ShootEmUp | no | 02:05 |
| poropeukalo | this is my first time i use linux ever | 02:05 |
| ShootEmUp | you should have it | 02:05 |
| reis_ | mee too | 02:05 |
| poropeukalo | i just istalled it | 02:05 |
| Guest58945 | alright now... | 02:05 |
| reis_ | where nothing in the list | 02:05 |
| ShootEmUp | don't worry, I've only been using linux for 6 months | 02:06 |
| reis_ | welcome my friend | 02:06 |
| Guest58945 | i have an issue with my xubuntu 10.10, it will come up to thelogin screen, ill login, itll flash like it s goign to desktop and the itll revert back to login, any ideas? im totally stumped | 02:06 |
| poropeukalo | merry xmas to all :) | 02:06 |
| reis_ | not for me ım muslim :D | 02:07 |
| ShootEmUp | you can still get presents | 02:07 |
| poropeukalo | xD | 02:07 |
| reis_ | ı dont know xmas | 02:07 |
| reis_ | celebration day | 02:08 |
| poropeukalo | i was just writing "so you dont get presents" | 02:08 |
| ShootEmUp | !cookie | reis_ | 02:08 |
| ubottu | reis_: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! | 02:08 |
| reis_ | yes | 02:08 |
| ShootEmUp | merry xmas! | 02:08 |
| Guest58945 | nothing? | 02:08 |
| charlie-tca | xmas is not a word! Please use real english only, since there are many who do not speak english as a first language. | 02:08 |
| reis_ | is this new year celebration | 02:08 |
| reis_ | what is it :D | 02:09 |
| poropeukalo | im from finland :/ sorry.. | 02:09 |
| ShootEmUp | Merry Chistmas | 02:09 |
| Guest58945 | no help at all? lol | 02:09 |
| charlie-tca | Guest58945: yes, idea | 02:09 |
| ShootEmUp | and I spelled it wrong | 02:09 |
| Guest58945 | !offtopic | 02:09 |
| ubottu | #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! | 02:09 |
| Guest58945 | whats ur plan chalie | 02:09 |
| reis_ | shoot em up | 02:10 |
| charlie-tca | Is this a new installation? | 02:10 |
| reis_ | one question ok | 02:10 |
| Guest58945 | no, ive done quite a bit with it | 02:10 |
| ShootEmUp | yes | 02:10 |
| charlie-tca | So what was the last thing you did before it decided you can't login anymore? | 02:10 |
| ShootEmUp | reis_, I'm still working on your problem. | 02:10 |
| reis_ | ı open cd but film doesnt start now what | 02:10 |
| reis_ | thanks | 02:10 |
| ShootEmUp | just thought I would let you know | 02:11 |
| charlie-tca | Guest58945: So what was the last thing you did before it decided you can't login anymore? | 02:11 |
| Guest58945 | i was playing with the 3-d cube last night, that was the last thing i got to work, other than making a new xorg.conf file. | 02:11 |
| Guest58945 | this is saintly btw :D | 02:11 |
| ShootEmUp | Its awesome | 02:11 |
| charlie-tca | Have you tried moving the new xorg.conf ? Maybe that is the issue | 02:12 |
| reis_ | charlie what does tca mean | 02:12 |
| charlie-tca | Guest58945: you can just go to a tty with Ctrl+Alt+f2 | 02:13 |
| ShootEmUp | reis_, this might help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure | 02:13 |
| Guest58945 | its located under etc/X11/xorg.conf, that seemed to work fine. i cant remove it, the computer wont let me lol. | 02:13 |
| charlie-tca | reis_: I am working a different issue | 02:13 |
| charlie-tca | Guest58945: after logging in, go to /etc/X11 | 02:13 |
| Guest58945 | im in tty currently | 02:13 |
| reis_ | shoot em up thank you a lot | 02:13 |
| charlie-tca | Guest58945: use sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old_file | 02:14 |
| ShootEmUp | I'll keep trying, but this seems to be a hard bug to kill | 02:14 |
| reis_ | for me | 02:14 |
| charlie-tca | Guest58945: then you will restart using sudo shutdown -r now | 02:15 |
| ShootEmUp | reis_, what is the make and model of your computer | 02:15 |
| reis_ | ı have downloaded the restricted areas but film doesnt open | 02:15 |
| ShootEmUp | video won't play? | 02:16 |
| reis_ | vestel yes | 02:16 |
| Guest58945 | charlie-tca: attempting login | 02:16 |
| reis_ | dont start | 02:16 |
| ShootEmUp | have you tried a differant video player? | 02:16 |
| charlie-tca | Guest58945: work? | 02:17 |
| reis_ | no | 02:17 |
| Guest58945 | charlie-tca: nope | 02:17 |
| reis_ | ı will try | 02:17 |
| charlie-tca | Guest58945: back to the tty | 02:17 |
| Guest58945 | yep | 02:17 |
| ShootEmUp | reis_, try vlc, sudo apt-get install vlc | 02:18 |
| charlie-tca | Guest58945: now going to delete a file or two... be cautious | 02:18 |
| reis_ | which do you preffer | 02:18 |
| reis_ | ok | 02:18 |
| Guest58945 | charlie-tca alright | 02:18 |
| reis_ | vlc | 02:18 |
| charlie-tca | Guest58945: rm -r .cache | 02:18 |
| Guest58945 | it asks if i want to, press what, y? | 02:19 |
| charlie-tca | Guest58945: cd .config | 02:19 |
| charlie-tca | Guest58945: yes | 02:19 |
| charlie-tca | Guest58945: we need the cache files to delete | 02:19 |
| charlie-tca | Guest58945: next is cd .config | 02:19 |
| reis_ | shoot | 02:19 |
| reis_ | do ı have to mount cdro | 02:20 |
| ShootEmUp | reis_, once it is installed, right click on the file, and select play or open with VLC | 02:20 |
| reis_ | m | 02:20 |
| charlie-tca | Guest58945: cd xfce4/xfcong/xfce-perchannel-xml | 02:20 |
| reis_ | ok | 02:20 |
| charlie-tca | Guest58945: cd xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml | 02:20 |
| charlie-tca | my mistake. | 02:20 |
| reis_ | avseq file | 02:20 |
| Guest58945 | no such flie charlie-tc cd .config | 02:20 |
| charlie-tca | hmmm | 02:21 |
| reis_ | shoot | 02:21 |
| charlie-tca | Guest58945: try cd /home/USERNAME/.config | 02:21 |
| ShootEmUp | reis_, i think it is best to move to privte chat, to stop filling up the channel | 02:21 |
| reis_ | ok | 02:21 |
| Guest58945 | the perchannel file isnt around either | 02:22 |
| charlie-tca | Guest58945: perchannel won't be unless you have .config | 02:22 |
| charlie-tca | it is inside it | 02:22 |
| Guest58945 | no USERNAME file | 02:23 |
| charlie-tca | no, that would be your login name instead of USERNAME | 02:23 |
| Guest58945 | ahh ROFL | 02:24 |
| charlie-tca | :-) | 02:24 |
| charlie-tca | I really want there to be a .config | 02:24 |
| Guest58945 | wont let me remove it, says its a directory | 02:24 |
| charlie-tca | don't remove it. is it there? | 02:25 |
| === Guest58945 is now known as Saintly | ||
| Saintly | it is there | 02:25 |
| charlie-tca | are we in .config now? | 02:25 |
| Saintly | how do i get in it? :) | 02:25 |
| charlie-tca | cd /home/USERNAME/.config | 02:26 |
| charlie-tca | USERNAME is your login name | 02:26 |
| Saintly | ahh gotacha, it now says config infront of $ | 02:26 |
| charlie-tca | that's the place. Now, exactly as this shows cd xfce4/xconf/xfce-perchannel-xml | 02:27 |
| charlie-tca | Saintly: ?? | 02:27 |
| Saintly | charlie-tca: in it :D | 02:28 |
| charlie-tca | Now we remove a single file rm xfce4-session.xml | 02:28 |
| Saintly | done | 02:29 |
| charlie-tca | now we get out of there cd hit enter | 02:29 |
| Saintly | done :D | 02:29 |
| charlie-tca | now use Alt+F7 to go to gdm | 02:30 |
| charlie-tca | now login | 02:30 |
| Saintly | ah gotta restart it lol | 02:30 |
| Saintly | charlie-tca: nothin :( | 02:31 |
| charlie-tca | what is nothin. ? no gdm screen | 02:31 |
| Saintly | im back to login, after loggin in. | 02:32 |
| charlie-tca | or it just cycles back when you enter name and password? | 02:32 |
| Saintly | yes | 02:32 |
| charlie-tca | hm, now we get aggressive about it | 02:34 |
| charlie-tca | back to the tty | 02:34 |
| Saintly | ok hold one | 02:34 |
| charlie-tca | this time you will have to reset things after logging in | 02:34 |
| Saintly | thats fine with me | 02:35 |
| Saintly | ill refresh the entire system, as logn as i dont have to reinstall the OS lol | 02:35 |
| charlie-tca | Saintly: in the tty, logged in, right? | 02:35 |
| Saintly | yes | 02:35 |
| charlie-tca | Saintly: rm -r /home/USERNAME/.cache | 02:36 |
| charlie-tca | and yes, you want to | 02:36 |
| charlie-tca | Saintly: rm -r /home/USERNAME/.config/xfce4/xconf/xfce-perchannel-xml | 02:37 |
| Saintly | done, want to what? refresh the whole thing? | 02:37 |
| charlie-tca | no, want to remove or delete | 02:37 |
| charlie-tca | did those both? | 02:37 |
| ShootEmUp | man reis_ had some hard problems | 02:38 |
| Saintly | not the second one | 02:38 |
| charlie-tca | Saintly: rm /home/USERNAME/.gconfd/saved_state | 02:38 |
| charlie-tca | got to do them all at the same time | 02:38 |
| charlie-tca | ShootEmUp: this one is funner... ;-) | 02:39 |
| Saintly | hey guess what, no such file :D | 02:39 |
| ShootEmUp | charlie-tca, what is? | 02:39 |
| charlie-tca | which one, Saintly ? | 02:39 |
| Saintly | the saved state, and the perchannel | 02:40 |
| charlie-tca | ShootEmUp: won't login past gdm | 02:40 |
| Saintly | nope | 02:40 |
| charlie-tca | per channel is there, we were in it before | 02:40 |
| charlie-tca | you did something wrong typing it. | 02:40 |
| Saintly | copied exactly what you wrote, says it doesnt | 02:41 |
| charlie-tca | Saintly: let's do it like before then. | 02:41 |
| Saintly | ouch :D | 02:41 |
| charlie-tca | cd /home/USERNAME/.config | 02:41 |
| charlie-tca | you can use up-arrow to repeat the commands, too | 02:41 |
| Saintly | oh wow.. um no such file | 02:42 |
| charlie-tca | yes there is | 02:42 |
| well_laid_lawn | if all else fails use the tab key | 02:42 |
| Saintly | didnt we delete my username? it says no file or diretory | 02:43 |
| charlie-tca | are you using the forward slash? and the DOT in front of config | 02:43 |
| charlie-tca | no, we did not delete the username | 02:43 |
| Saintly | yes, let me try one more time | 02:43 |
| charlie-tca | aren't you logged in ? | 02:43 |
| Saintly | im logged into tty yea | 02:43 |
| ShootEmUp | you think its a problem with GDM? | 02:44 |
| charlie-tca | then the user has to be there | 02:44 |
| Saintly | it says, no such file :((( | 02:44 |
| charlie-tca | It might be a compiz/gtk issue | 02:44 |
| charlie-tca | try ls -lA | 02:44 |
| charlie-tca | those are small L not eyes | 02:44 |
| Saintly | thats alotta stuff | 02:45 |
| charlie-tca | then you did not delete things yet | 02:45 |
| charlie-tca | and we have to, to make it work | 02:45 |
| Saintly | i do have compiz, can we delete that? | 02:46 |
| charlie-tca | we just need to delete the perchannel directory, I think | 02:46 |
| Saintly | alright, goive it to meh :D | 02:46 |
| charlie-tca | cd /home/USERNAME/.config/ | 02:46 |
| ShootEmUp | If you run out of options, you could remove GDM, and login at command line, then tyoe startx | 02:47 |
| ShootEmUp | If its a GDM problem | 02:47 |
| Saintly | got it this time, i switched to antoher tty and it worked | 02:47 |
| charlie-tca | good | 02:48 |
| charlie-tca | good, so we are in .config? | 02:48 |
| Saintly | charlie-tca:yep :D | 02:48 |
| charlie-tca | cd xfce4/xconf/ | 02:49 |
| charlie-tca | now we remove the directory we don't want... | 02:49 |
| Saintly | alright | 02:49 |
| charlie-tca | Saintly: rm -r xfce-perchannel-xml | 02:49 |
| Saintly | ahh wait, xfce4/xconf no such file | 02:50 |
| charlie-tca | type ls -l | 02:50 |
| charlie-tca | hit enter | 02:50 |
| charlie-tca | what does it show? | 02:50 |
| Saintly | ive got xfce4 in there | 02:51 |
| charlie-tca | okay, cd xfce4 | 02:51 |
| Saintly | alright, now xconf? | 02:51 |
| charlie-tca | cd xconf | 02:51 |
| charlie-tca | type ls -l | 02:52 |
| charlie-tca | hit enter | 02:52 |
| Saintly | no file, i do have xf conf | 02:52 |
| charlie-tca | you have something xf conf with a space in it? | 02:53 |
| Saintly | no srry xfconf | 02:53 |
| charlie-tca | that's the one | 02:53 |
| charlie-tca | cd xfconf | 02:53 |
| charlie-tca | must be tired now.... | 02:53 |
| Saintly | lol | 02:53 |
| charlie-tca | got there, right? | 02:54 |
| Saintly | yes | 02:54 |
| charlie-tca | Saintly: rm -r xfce-perchannel-xml | 02:54 |
| Saintly | done | 02:54 |
| charlie-tca | cd ENTER | 02:54 |
| Saintly | btw where do i pick up my award for most difficult user? | 02:54 |
| Saintly | done | 02:54 |
| charlie-tca | heh | 02:55 |
| ShootEmUp | !cookie | charlie-tca | 02:55 |
| ubottu | charlie-tca: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! | 02:55 |
| charlie-tca | now, just use Alt+F7 | 02:55 |
| Saintly | you needa get paid man.. ok | 02:55 |
| charlie-tca | you should be at the gdm screen again | 02:55 |
| ShootEmUp | charlie-tca, just had to be done | 02:55 |
| charlie-tca | no problem | 02:55 |
| charlie-tca | we did not restart, right? | 02:55 |
| Saintly | ur gonna hate this... im still looping. | 02:56 |
| Saintly | no restart | 02:56 |
| charlie-tca | did you change the login logo? | 02:56 |
| Saintly | ??? | 02:56 |
| charlie-tca | back to the tty | 02:57 |
| Saintly | ouch | 02:57 |
| charlie-tca | You are still logged in, right? | 02:57 |
| charlie-tca | metacity --replace | 02:57 |
| Saintly | yes | 02:57 |
| Saintly | dont have metacity | 02:58 |
| charlie-tca | huh? | 02:58 |
| ShootEmUp | ??? | 02:58 |
| Saintly | currently not isntalled | 02:58 |
| ShootEmUp | !info metacity | 02:58 |
| ubottu | metacity (source: metacity): lightweight GTK+ window manager. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.30.2-0ubuntu1 (maverick), package size 243 kB, installed size 660 kB | 02:58 |
| charlie-tca | okay, try apt-cache policy xfwm4 | 02:59 |
| charlie-tca | Is that installed? | 02:59 |
| Saintly | yes | 02:59 |
| charlie-tca | try it... xfwm4 --replace | 03:01 |
| ShootEmUp | I gotta go now, ttyl everyone! | 03:01 |
| charlie-tca | you got any ideas here? | 03:01 |
| Saintly | Gtk-warning **: cannot open display: | 03:01 |
| Saintly | idk | 03:02 |
| charlie-tca | okay, now we got something, huh? | 03:02 |
| charlie-tca | cd /etc/X11 | 03:02 |
| charlie-tca | looking for xorg.conf or failsafe.xorg.conf | 03:03 |
| Saintly | hows xorg.conf.old_file | 03:03 |
| charlie-tca | that should be okay | 03:03 |
| Saintly | remove it? | 03:04 |
| charlie-tca | no | 03:04 |
| Saintly | ok | 03:04 |
| charlie-tca | might need it again | 03:04 |
| Saintly | i know how to make another and get the system to see it anyway | 03:05 |
| charlie-tca | let's put it back... sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old_file /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 03:05 |
| Saintly | k | 03:05 |
| charlie-tca | restart | 03:06 |
| Saintly | restart the computer? | 03:06 |
| charlie-tca | yup | 03:06 |
| charlie-tca | sudo shutdown -r now | 03:06 |
| Saintly | just did sudo reboot | 03:07 |
| charlie-tca | that works too | 03:07 |
| Saintly | login loop still on | 03:07 |
| charlie-tca | Now I am at a dead end. | 03:09 |
| Saintly | you know what... i think its time i find that bot disk again | 03:10 |
| Saintly | boot* | 03:10 |
| charlie-tca | got one more thing. could try killing gdm and starting the desktop, but I don't know how long it would work, either. | 03:11 |
| Saintly | let me try wiping the whole system first, see if i can get it to just the regualr programs | 03:12 |
| charlie-tca | You can try sudo startxfce4 in a tty yet | 03:12 |
| Saintly | thayt pulled up fatal server error charlie | 03:12 |
| Saintly | what does that tell you? if anything lol | 03:15 |
| charlie-tca | Tells me video driver | 03:15 |
| charlie-tca | wonder if you can remove compiz now | 03:15 |
| Saintly | says: if this server is no ponger running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock and start again | 03:15 |
| charlie-tca | try that | 03:16 |
| charlie-tca | it is easy.... sudo rm /tmp/.X0-lock | 03:16 |
| charlie-tca | and that is a zero after X | 03:17 |
| Saintly | done | 03:17 |
| charlie-tca | now try logging in | 03:17 |
| Saintly | fatal serv: cannot establish any listening sockets | 03:17 |
| charlie-tca | i give up... :-( | 03:18 |
| Saintly | alright, how do i take out GDM | 03:18 |
| charlie-tca | sudo apt-get remove gdm | 03:18 |
| Saintly | almost done | 03:19 |
| charlie-tca | but you might try stopping it first? | 03:19 |
| Saintly | why? | 03:19 |
| charlie-tca | seems like the thing to say? | 03:19 |
| Saintly | LOL y is that | 03:20 |
| Saintly | did i just break it all? | 03:20 |
| charlie-tca | heh, no, I think you did that already | 03:20 |
| Saintly | ROFL me too | 03:20 |
| charlie-tca | lol, might have broke it more, though... | 03:21 |
| Saintly | thanks to compiz, in my opinion | 03:21 |
| Saintly | well it says its going to run in low graphics mode | 03:21 |
| Saintly | wow its slow now | 03:22 |
| charlie-tca | that's better. At least it might work? | 03:22 |
| charlie-tca | heh, you did not want to reinstall, right? | 03:23 |
| Saintly | alright, im in tty1 | 03:23 |
| Saintly | and i will if i have to, just not today | 03:23 |
| charlie-tca | except now you don't have gdm | 03:23 |
| charlie-tca | now you have two choices, startx will start an xfce session | 03:24 |
| charlie-tca | startxfce4 will start a xubuntu session, which is what you are used to seeing | 03:24 |
| Saintly | i did startx, now what? | 03:25 |
| Saintly | niether one is giving me login options | 03:26 |
| charlie-tca | it should just go to the desktop without a login screen | 03:26 |
| Saintly | no such luck | 03:26 |
| Saintly | looks like i broke the little toy | 03:26 |
| charlie-tca | that's bad, I think | 03:26 |
| charlie-tca | lol, you think? | 03:27 |
| Saintly | well that was fun | 03:27 |
| charlie-tca | Only one suggestion left... wait until tomorrow and ask ShootemUp for ideas now | 03:27 |
| Saintly | ill find the cd later and reinstall, spend a day getting everything back. | 03:27 |
| Saintly | not that bad to me, its just an old laptop | 03:28 |
| charlie-tca | well, that too. | 03:28 |
| Saintly | i do have to find the cd tho, i lost it | 03:28 |
| charlie-tca | I would do it that way, but not too many seem to thing reinstalling is good | 03:28 |
| charlie-tca | you just ain't got no luck, huh? | 03:28 |
| Saintly | it doesnt bother me, i didnt lose anything imprtant, and i love redoing it in a diff way :D | 03:29 |
| Saintly | lol and this time ittl be the RIGYHT way :D | 03:29 |
| charlie-tca | Every time I do it is a learning experience. I learn not to do the same thing again... execpt that day I reinstalled 5 times, and did the same thing each time. | 03:30 |
| Saintly | ROFL | 03:33 |
| Saintly | well i have to haul butt, im thinkin i might be able to do this tonight if i feel like it still :D | 03:33 |
| Saintly | im sure ill be back tomorrow :D | 03:33 |
| charlie-tca | Of course, I learned from it... Don't do the same thing each time if it breaks it again. | 03:33 |
| Saintly | :D | 03:34 |
| charlie-tca | Have fun :-) | 03:34 |
| snowrichard | hello | 04:52 |
| snowrichard | i installed xubuntu today on a HP Pavilion ZE4907WM laptop. It had no internal hard drive so I used an external 320 GB usb 2 drive i had laying around. | 04:54 |
| no--name | ok so I installed xubuntu under windows using wubi and my internet connectivity was and still is fine under xp, internet connectivity was fine during the xubuntu install, fine when i rebooted into xubuntu, but since installing the latest drivers for my geforce 7600GS there is no internet connectivity (and the up/down icon in the panel is dim). | 06:25 |
| no--name | whenever i boot into xubuntu there is no internet connectivity, whenever i boot into xp it is fine | 06:26 |
| UBUxUBU | what version | 06:26 |
| no--name | 10.10 | 06:26 |
| no--name | 32 bit | 06:26 |
| UBUxUBU | on this particuler computer i did wubi 1004 | 06:27 |
| no--name | what graphics card do you have? | 06:28 |
| UBUxUBU | ati5870 | 06:28 |
| UBUxUBU | and i an 64 bit | 06:28 |
| no--name | ok | 06:28 |
| UBUxUBU | wubi is weird to say the least | 06:28 |
| no--name | yeah maybe I should try 10.04 | 06:28 |
| no--name | ok | 06:28 |
| UBUxUBU | one day... | 06:29 |
| no--name | have you experienced any problems yourself? | 06:29 |
| UBUxUBU | i did the updates... | 06:29 |
| UBUxUBU | and i couldnt boot inti ubuntu | 06:29 |
| no--name | :( | 06:29 |
| UBUxUBU | so i deleted wubi | 06:29 |
| UBUxUBU | and reinstalled it | 06:30 |
| UBUxUBU | wubi hould be renamed wacki | 06:30 |
| UBUxUBU | its good but its a li weird | 06:30 |
| UBUxUBU | lil* | 06:31 |
| UBUxUBU | wubi is cool. but dont store important files in it | 06:33 |
| no--name | heh | 06:34 |
| no--name | the only reason I used it is because the live CD refused to work with this computer | 06:35 |
| no--name | but perhaps I should have tried the install now option :/ | 06:35 |
| UBUxUBU | i am good on true dual boot but i did wubi on this one cos its still under warranty | 06:36 |
| UBUxUBU | my true dual booter work fine | 06:36 |
| no--name | cool | 06:36 |
| no--name | I'll try a non-wubi then. | 06:36 |
| UBUxUBU | are u under warranty | 06:37 |
| no--name | no | 06:37 |
| no--name | this is a second hand computer | 06:37 |
| no--name | I don't think that would void your warranty though. | 06:37 |
| UBUxUBU | it may not | 06:37 |
| UBUxUBU | but i like wubi better in that one instance | 06:38 |
| UBUxUBU | do u wanna do a real dual boot | 06:38 |
| no--name | yea | 06:38 |
| wizardslovak | how do i install java ? | 06:38 |
| UBUxUBU | cool ...do u have another computer | 06:38 |
| wizardslovak | apt-get install sun-java6-jdk sun-java6-jre | 06:39 |
| no--name | nah | 06:39 |
| UBUxUBU | ok no--name | 06:39 |
| UBUxUBU | do u mind splitting the hard evenly no--name | 06:39 |
| no--name | I don't want to split it evenly but you don't have to do that. | 06:40 |
| UBUxUBU | no u dont just asked | 06:41 |
| no--name | ok | 06:41 |
| UBUxUBU | i know how to do it either way | 06:41 |
| no--name | me too :) | 06:41 |
| UBUxUBU | i have done 18 dual booters | 06:41 |
| UBUxUBU | hehe | 06:41 |
| UBUxUBU | so easy | 06:41 |
| no--name | lol | 06:41 |
| no--name | :) | 06:41 |
| UBUxUBU | i know | 06:41 |
| UBUxUBU | but wubi is ok | 06:42 |
| no--name | mmmm | 06:42 |
| Myrtti | ych | 06:43 |
| UBUxUBU | wubi gives ppl a taste of buntu | 06:44 |
| no--name | yea | 06:44 |
| UBUxUBU | eventually it ummmm......sQrews up | 06:44 |
| no--name | i've been using ubuntu for about 8 months | 06:44 |
| no--name | now | 06:44 |
| UBUxUBU | i got 3 mos out of wubi before i had to fix it | 06:45 |
| no--name | guess i better try a real dual boot then | 06:45 |
| Myrtti | sure, but it's not meant to be a permanent solution | 06:45 |
| Myrtti | it's mainly for demonstration purposes | 06:45 |
| UBUxUBU | yeah or dont use wubi to store important stuff | 06:45 |
| no--name | it seems bizarre that a graphics card driver would take away my internet connectivity | 06:45 |
| UBUxUBU | i doubt that happened but vid is the culprit for a lot of problems | 06:46 |
| UBUxUBU | even in windows | 06:46 |
| * no--name uninstalls wubi | 06:46 | |
| no--name | hmm | 06:47 |
| no--name | do you get your space back after uninstalling wubi? | 06:47 |
| UBUxUBU | yes | 06:47 |
| UBUxUBU | the uninstaller is so good i could not find a trace of buntu in regedit afterwards | 06:47 |
| no--name | ok cool | 06:48 |
| no--name | should i restart ? | 06:48 |
| UBUxUBU | and i am good in regedit | 06:48 |
| UBUxUBU | yes restart | 06:48 |
| no--name | ok brb | 06:48 |
| UBUxUBU | ck regedit | 06:48 |
| raevol | is there an easy way to mount .mdf images in xubuntu? apparently normal ubuntu you can just right click them and choose mount | 06:56 |
| UBUxUBU | what os ru runnin no--name | 06:59 |
| UBUxUBU | the giu is much better and easier to understand in ubuntu | 07:01 |
| UBUxUBU | gui* | 07:02 |
| no--name | Windows XP. | 07:03 |
| no--name | I hate it. | 07:03 |
| no--name | But I need to run it for games :P | 07:03 |
| no--name | Yeah I've been using Ubuntu for about 8 months now. | 07:03 |
| no--name | But my good computer died so now I've downgraded :( | 07:03 |
| no--name | and this thing doesn't seem to like Live CDs | 07:04 |
| no--name | Gonna save up for something better though (eventually :/ | 07:04 |
| UBUxUBU | hey i have lots of xp pro here its rock solid | 07:05 |
| UBUxUBU | my w7 has had 3 bsod in 7 mos | 07:06 |
| UBUxUBU | xp pro never any bsod | 07:06 |
| UBUxUBU | and xp pro loves typical dual booy ubuntu | 07:06 |
| UBUxUBU | boot* | 07:06 |
| no--name | interesting. | 07:07 |
| UBUxUBU | i stillthink xppro beats w7 home premium | 07:07 |
| no--name | I haven't used Windows 7 apart from the Release Candidate. | 07:07 |
| UBUxUBU | but i havent tried w7 pro | 07:07 |
| UBUxUBU | its nice | 07:08 |
| no--name | Yeah. | 07:08 |
| UBUxUBU | but xp pro is still the best | 07:08 |
| no--name | No, Linux is the best :p | 07:08 |
| UBUxUBU | i want ubuntu to become the best | 07:08 |
| UBUxUBU | but honestly it hasnt yet | 07:09 |
| no--name | Every OS seems to have it's advantages and disadvantages. | 07:09 |
| no--name | Except for Windows M.E. which only had disadvantages :P | 07:09 |
| UBUxUBU | that one was not good at all | 07:09 |
| UBUxUBU | w200 pro was awesome i stil use it | 07:10 |
| UBUxUBU | w2000 pro * | 07:10 |
| no--name | Yeah. | 07:10 |
| UBUxUBU | it just tooka long time to shut down | 07:11 |
| UBUxUBU | they are gonna ditch xp pro in 2014 but if u get a chance to run it in 32 bit u will see real stability | 07:12 |
| UBUxUBU | its the only real os i ever saw | 07:13 |
| UBUxUBU | i cant break it | 07:13 |
| UBUxUBU | its boring but i cant break it | 07:13 |
| UBUxUBU | but i like buntu lucid...every computer i have has lucid | 07:14 |
| no--name | ya | 07:21 |
| no--name | I'm gonna go play TF2 now, see ya :3 | 07:21 |
| Animagladius | Merry Christmas everyone, btw. | 08:29 |
| infrid64 | hi! | 12:28 |
| rethus | someone here use xfce with kde backend? | 12:46 |
| MorphixNW | hi | 12:51 |
| charlie-tca | rethus: Xfce and KDE are both desktop environments. They replace each other | 12:52 |
| rethus | i know, but xfce has the option to use Gnome or KDE backend-packages | 12:53 |
| rethus | you never seen this option | 12:53 |
| MorphixNW | you can have multiple DE installed, and you can select which one you want at logon | 12:53 |
| MorphixNW | I am still having problems with the "startup disk creator", I am yet to see it boot from the hard drive lol | 12:56 |
| MorphixNW | but I think the problem is the target machine and not the "startup disk creator" | 12:56 |
| MorphixNW | and so I am trying one more time, this time using a large USB Stick as oppose to a USB Hard Drive (USB Powered) | 12:56 |
| charlie-tca | try all the usb ports | 12:56 |
| MorphixNW | the machine is not powering the usb hard drive | 12:57 |
| MorphixNW | it did.... ONCE | 12:57 |
| MorphixNW | but I cant make it boot from it again | 12:57 |
| MorphixNW | I have a 4GB USB Stick that is currently being turned into a startup disk | 12:58 |
| MorphixNW | I think it will work fine from that | 12:58 |
| MorphixNW | does anyone know if it possible to turn a USB Stick into a Smart Card for secure log ons? | 12:59 |
| MorphixNW | is this channel always this quite during the day? (GMT London) | 13:09 |
| charlie-tca | yes | 13:10 |
| ptrc | Hello | 13:10 |
| charlie-tca | MorphixNW: most of IRC seems to run on Eastern Standard Time, UTC -5 | 13:11 |
| charlie-tca | well, at least the ubuntu stuff | 13:11 |
| MorphixNW | hi ptrc | 13:12 |
| MorphixNW | their is more life in a grave yard lol | 13:12 |
| ptrc | I have a notebook : AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile technology TL-50 1.60GHz 895 Mo of RAM and a desktop pc : AMD Athlon XP 2600+ 2.08GHz, 1.50 Go of RAM | 13:13 |
| ptrc | does it make sens to install xubuntu on it? or should I rather put ubuntu? thanks | 13:13 |
| MorphixNW | I think either will run well :) | 13:13 |
| MorphixNW | personally I like xfce4 | 13:15 |
| MorphixNW | !cluster | 13:15 |
| ptrc | ok and does the boot time change a lot between xubuntu and ubuntu? If yes maybe with xubuntu on a notebook, it is like having a tablet pc starting very fast... | 13:15 |
| charlie-tca | boot times should be about the same. | 13:15 |
| MorphixNW | same really, but both can be tweaked to decrease the boot time | 13:16 |
| ptrc | ok than you | 13:16 |
| charlie-tca | MorphixNW: I think I told you the wrong time zone. It seems to run on Pacific Standard Time, which is even worse, UTC -8 | 13:17 |
| charlie-tca | I am mountain time, which is 6:17 AM here now | 13:17 |
| MorphixNW | tat explains it, as it 13:17 here right now | 13:17 |
| ptrc | I will first try the boot cd anyway because I am afraid my network card will not be recognized (it is really old like 12 years) | 13:18 |
| MorphixNW | ptrc are you using 10.10? | 13:18 |
| MorphixNW | 10.10 is much better at recognising hardware :) | 13:18 |
| ptrc | MorphixNW: I am a newbie, at this point I have seven on my notebook and XP on my desktop but tired of this so I will change both to (x)ubuntu | 13:19 |
| MorphixNW | my media-centre is 10.04 which I had much trouble getting setup, in the end I replaced the main board to make it all work, however, on this machine which is 10.10 I had no trouble with the board :) | 13:19 |
| ptrc | Ok I will go for 10.10 then, thanks for the trick | 13:19 |
| MorphixNW | ptrc: download the latest stable release (10.10) | 13:19 |
| MorphixNW | the odds that it will get most of your hardware if not all of it are much higher | 13:20 |
| MorphixNW | everything worked out of the box for me, well apart from my damn touchscreen | 13:21 |
| ptrc | ok :) | 13:21 |
| MorphixNW | where previously on 10.04 this very same board gave me hell | 13:21 |
| ptrc | I hope to be as successfull with 10.10 ;) | 13:23 |
| MorphixNW | :) | 13:23 |
| lips | Hey, short questions. I installed Xubuntu on my parents pc and want to make sure that there is always the nvidia kernel module for the recent kernel available | 13:39 |
| lips | Could I use dkms for that purpose | 13:39 |
| Sysi | the graphical driver installer does that automatically | 13:41 |
| lips | really? I didn't have a X Server when booting the newer kernel | 13:44 |
| Sysi | it should | 13:44 |
| ptrc | happyxmass to all, thank you MorphixNW for your help, bye ! | 13:45 |
| lips | perhaps because I installed it with apt-get | 13:45 |
| Sysi | try jockey-gtk | 13:45 |
| lips | will do Sysi | 13:46 |
| Sysi | nouveau is trustworthy too, with 2d | 13:47 |
| lips | yeah I know | 13:47 |
| lips | but it's a pretty old machine so i am trying to push it to its greatest performance :) | 13:48 |
| lips | thanks Sysi I need to restart now bye | 13:49 |
| MorphixNW | will Xubuntu work on a Compaq Proliant PL800 (2x500Mhz CPU, 1GB ECC SDRAM and 4xSCSI HDDS)? | 13:58 |
| charlie-tca | should | 13:59 |
| MorphixNW | out the box? | 13:59 |
| MorphixNW | I am thinking that it might get stuck with the SCSI Drive Array | 14:00 |
| === knome_ is now known as knome | ||
| ShootEmUp | morrning people | 14:28 |
| MorphixNW | hey ShootEmUp | 14:42 |
| ShootEmUp | hey, you fix your problems? | 14:42 |
| MorphixNW | errrrr.... | 14:42 |
| ShootEmUp | I don't remember what problems you had | 14:44 |
| MorphixNW | trying to make a machine usb boot | 14:45 |
| ShootEmUp | thats right | 14:45 |
| ShootEmUp | did you ever do that | 14:45 |
| MorphixNW | it booted once, but now it just wont do it, not even with USB Stick | 14:45 |
| MorphixNW | nope :( | 14:45 |
| ShootEmUp | what else is on it, floppy, CDROM, anything? | 14:46 |
| MorphixNW | nope | 14:46 |
| ShootEmUp | give me a min, i'm going to google | 14:46 |
| MorphixNW | think it might be the machine thats the problrm | 14:46 |
| ShootEmUp | so no OS on it i guess | 14:47 |
| MorphixNW | no such luck | 14:47 |
| ShootEmUp | you wouldn't happen to have a spare floppy drive aroud? | 14:48 |
| MorphixNW | the machine has no floppy port | 14:48 |
| MorphixNW | think i am gonna test to see if the IDE Controller can handle 2 devices | 14:49 |
| ShootEmUp | they can | 14:49 |
| MorphixNW | not all | 14:49 |
| ShootEmUp | I'm doing it right now | 14:49 |
| ShootEmUp | most can | 14:49 |
| MorphixNW | most boards can/will/do | 14:49 |
| MorphixNW | but not always the case with these SFF | 14:49 |
| ShootEmUp | yeah thats true | 14:50 |
| MorphixNW | as they aint designed for that purpose | 14:50 |
| MorphixNW | but ill give it a whirl | 14:50 |
| ShootEmUp | thats all you can do | 14:50 |
| MorphixNW | however, I want the OS installed on a USB Stick, can that be done? | 14:50 |
| MorphixNW | so I can yank the stick and the machine is bare | 14:50 |
| ShootEmUp | yeah, but grub will have to be put on a bootable hard disk | 14:51 |
| MorphixNW | USB Stick acts the same | 14:51 |
| MorphixNW | if a USB Stick is the only media present, it should sort itself out right? | 14:51 |
| ShootEmUp | but if your BIOS can't boot USB, then it can't call grub | 14:51 |
| MorphixNW | it says it can | 14:52 |
| MorphixNW | and it did ONCE | 14:52 |
| ShootEmUp | thats what bothers me | 14:52 |
| MorphixNW | I am beginging to think that the "startup disk creator" could be the problem | 14:52 |
| ShootEmUp | yeah, might I recommend Unetbootin | 14:52 |
| MorphixNW | say what? | 14:52 |
| ShootEmUp | !info unetbootin | 14:53 |
| ubottu | unetbootin (source: unetbootin): installer of Linux/BSD distributions to a partition or USB drive. In component universe, is optional. Version 471-1ubuntu1 (maverick), package size 274 kB, installed size 808 kB | 14:53 |
| ShootEmUp | Its like startup disk creator, but I think its better | 14:54 |
| MorphixNW | sounds good | 14:54 |
| MorphixNW | is it in apt? | 14:54 |
| ShootEmUp | sudo apt-get install unetbootin | 14:54 |
| UBUxUBU | how can i make lucid 64 bit play hulu vids | 14:54 |
| MorphixNW | hulu? | 14:54 |
| UBUxUBU | i have installed restricted extras and flash | 14:54 |
| charlie-tca | !hulu | 14:54 |
| UBUxUBU | yes hulu videos | 14:55 |
| MorphixNW | do youtube vids play? | 14:55 |
| ShootEmUp | http://www.hulu.com/labs/hulu-desktop-linux | 14:55 |
| ShootEmUp | try that | 14:55 |
| UBUxUBU | yes utube plays | 14:55 |
| UBUxUBU | hulu labs tells me nuthun been there | 14:55 |
| ShootEmUp | go to this link http://www.hulu.com/labs/hulu-desktop-linux | 14:56 |
| UBUxUBU | link wont open | 14:56 |
| MorphixNW | worked fine for me | 14:56 |
| ShootEmUp | copy and paste into your browser | 14:57 |
| UBUxUBU | The page you were looking for doesn't exist (404 error) | 14:57 |
| ShootEmUp | heres directlink to the .deb, http://download.hulu.com/huludesktop_amd64.deb | 14:57 |
| UBUxUBU | thats the link | 14:57 |
| ShootEmUp | Ok, try a differant browser | 14:58 |
| UBUxUBU | i installed that already | 14:59 |
| UBUxUBU | that doesnt make thr vids play | 14:59 |
| UBUxUBU | what the heck is going on | 15:00 |
| MorphixNW | the ShootEmUp provided works fine for me | 15:02 |
| charlie-tca | UBUxUBU: what browser are you using? | 15:02 |
| UBUxUBU | ff | 15:02 |
| MorphixNW | if your getting 404 then something is wrong on your side | 15:02 |
| UBUxUBU | buntu 1004 | 15:02 |
| UBUxUBU | i found it it was behind the page | 15:02 |
| charlie-tca | ubuntu or kubuntu? | 15:03 |
| UBUxUBU | but the link doesnt help | 15:03 |
| UBUxUBU | ubuntu | 15:03 |
| ShootEmUp | did you download the .deb, and then install it? | 15:03 |
| MorphixNW | can you play hulu vids from the hulu.com website? | 15:03 |
| UBUxUBU | yes as i told u it says i already installed | 15:03 |
| UBUxUBU | i cannot play hulu vids | 15:04 |
| UBUxUBU | unless i boot windows | 15:04 |
| MorphixNW | not even from there own website? | 15:05 |
| ShootEmUp | okay, one thing I read says you need 64bit flash | 15:05 |
| UBUxUBU | i know | 15:05 |
| ShootEmUp | odds are you don't have it | 15:05 |
| UBUxUBU | i got utube runnin | 15:05 |
| ShootEmUp | you might have 32bit flash | 15:05 |
| UBUxUBU | some say hulu wont run ubuntu 64 | 15:06 |
| ShootEmUp | 64bit flash is in beta | 15:06 |
| UBUxUBU | hulu keeps saying i need latest flash | 15:06 |
| MorphixNW | hulu.com just told me that these plugins are required "Flash, SWFdec and gnash swf" do you have those plugins installed? | 15:06 |
| UBUxUBU | can i have those mixed with the flash i installed to play utube | 15:07 |
| MorphixNW | no, the site specifically asked for each one | 15:07 |
| UBUxUBU | will those mess up what i did to get utube running | 15:08 |
| MorphixNW | FF itself promoted and allowed me to install them fine | 15:08 |
| MorphixNW | no it shouldnt as they are different plugins | 15:08 |
| UBUxUBU | ok ill try to install all that | 15:09 |
| ShootEmUp | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins#64-bit%20Firefox%20and%2064-bit%20Flash%20plugin%20%28EXPERIMENTAL:%20more%20features%20and%20less%20stability%20%29 | 15:09 |
| ShootEmUp | to get 64bit flash | 15:09 |
| ShootEmUp | but try MorphixNW's fix first | 15:09 |
| MorphixNW | also what version of flash player do you have? it requires 10.1.102.65 | 15:09 |
| UBUxUBU | ok instlalled all of em | 15:11 |
| ShootEmUp | now try it | 15:12 |
| MorphixNW | and the version of flash you have installed is? | 15:12 |
| UBUxUBU | i installed the one that made utube work i dunno | 15:12 |
| ShootEmUp | the one atuomaticly call for by FF? | 15:13 |
| MorphixNW | ok I just did "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" which is version 10.1.102.65 as required so try that | 15:13 |
| ShootEmUp | !info flashplugin-nonfree | 15:14 |
| ubottu | flashplugin-nonfree (source: flashplugin-nonfree): Adobe Flash Player plugin installer (transitional package). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 10.1.102.65ubuntu0.10.10.1 (maverick), package size 1 kB, installed size 40 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia) | 15:14 |
| MorphixNW | thats the one hulu says it wants | 15:14 |
| MorphixNW | ubuxubu that has now worked for me, at first I gt the message you got, but after installing flashplugin-nonfree the videos will now play :) | 15:15 |
| MorphixNW | job done I think :) | 15:16 |
| ShootEmUp | !cookie | MorphixNW | 15:16 |
| ubottu | MorphixNW: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! | 15:16 |
| MorphixNW | hahaha thank you Shootemup | 15:17 |
| ShootEmUp | your help has been welcomed | 15:17 |
| MorphixNW | i was able to fully replicate the issue, so it was easier :) | 15:17 |
| UBUxUBU | it ruined utube | 15:19 |
| ShootEmUp | crap | 15:19 |
| UBUxUBU | and it doesnt work on hulu | 15:19 |
| ShootEmUp | do you have newest updates? | 15:19 |
| UBUxUBU | i had just installed a huge script to make utube run | 15:19 |
| UBUxUBU | yes all updates | 15:19 |
| ShootEmUp | if not update and upgrade | 15:19 |
| ShootEmUp | okay | 15:20 |
| UBUxUBU | how do i unwind the mess i just made | 15:20 |
| ShootEmUp | remove flash | 15:20 |
| ShootEmUp | sudo aptitude autoremove flashplugin-nonfree | 15:21 |
| UBUxUBU | what about that other junk | 15:21 |
| ShootEmUp | shouldn't have screwed anything up | 15:21 |
| MorphixNW | works for me | 15:23 |
| MorphixNW | I had the same error and youtube still works also | 15:23 |
| MorphixNW | I would use the command that Shootemup provided to clean your system, then follow my commands again | 15:24 |
| ShootEmUp | okay, thanks | 15:24 |
| MorphixNW | think maybe there are some anomalies in his system | 15:25 |
| MorphixNW | noticed he has left now so | 15:25 |
| ShootEmUp | yeah, alot of people have had problems with flash | 15:26 |
| MorphixNW | wierd | 15:26 |
| MorphixNW | all works for me on youtube and hulu now | 15:26 |
| ShootEmUp | yeah hulu is weird with ubuntu | 15:27 |
| MorphixNW | not for me :P | 15:27 |
| MorphixNW | I followed the prompts from the website and it just worked | 15:27 |
| MorphixNW | and didnt break youtube :) | 15:28 |
| ShootEmUp | yeah i think he did something wrong | 15:29 |
| MorphixNW | I think he has been fiddling around before he came here | 15:29 |
| MorphixNW | maybe installed a wrong version or something | 15:29 |
| ShootEmUp | most likey | 15:31 |
| ShootEmUp | well if gonna go now, get something to eat | 15:36 |
| ShootEmUp | ttyl | 15:36 |
| MorphixNW | just did that lol | 15:36 |
| MorphixNW | ttyl | 15:36 |
| MorphixNW | turkey sausages :) | 15:36 |
| ubuxubu | i fixed it | 16:54 |
| ubuxubu | now i can help others | 16:54 |
| ubuxubu | utube and hulu will run great in lucud 64 bit usung the beta adobe 64 bit | 16:58 |
| ubuxubu | i kept the link if ppl need it | 16:58 |
| ubuxubu | for the fix | 16:59 |
| === ubuxubu is now known as UBuxuBU | ||
| UBuxuBU | welcome Ycarene | 17:27 |
| Ycarene | Hello | 17:27 |
| UBuxuBU | hows the weather in south sioux | 17:29 |
| === `mOOse` is now known as m00se | ||
| MorphixNW | ok I have given up on the USB boot lol | 18:04 |
| MorphixNW | how can I easily change the hostname of my machine? | 18:04 |
| MorphixNW | editing "/etc/hosts" doesnt seem to be working | 18:11 |
| MorphixNW | !swap | 18:12 |
| ubottu | swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info | 18:12 |
| ShootEmUp | hello everyone | 18:17 |
| charlie-tca | well, that was fun. power blinking | 18:18 |
| ShootEmUp | ? | 18:18 |
| MorphixNW | ? | 18:18 |
| MorphixNW | BOD? | 18:18 |
| charlie-tca | reset my computers completely with electricity off/on | 18:19 |
| MorphixNW | can anyone tell me if this command is valid? "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/4Gb.swap bs=1M count=4096" | 18:19 |
| ShootEmUp | nope | 18:19 |
| MorphixNW | how so? | 18:19 |
| charlie-tca | I try not to use dd, so, no, I can't. | 18:20 |
| ShootEmUp | /dev/zero is not a valid disk | 18:20 |
| MorphixNW | ahh | 18:20 |
| ShootEmUp | /mnt/4Gb.swap is not valid either | 18:20 |
| ShootEmUp | it should be /mnt/SOMETHING/4Gb.swap | 18:20 |
| MorphixNW | like "sudo dd if=/dev/sdb1 of=/mnt/4Gb.swap bs=1M count=4096" | 18:22 |
| ShootEmUp | you can't put things in the /mnt folder | 18:23 |
| MorphixNW | 4GB.swap is valid | 18:23 |
| MorphixNW | I created it :) | 18:23 |
| MorphixNW | is it normal for that command to take some time? | 18:23 |
| MorphixNW | considering I gave it 4096 count | 18:24 |
| ShootEmUp | /mnt/sda1/4GB.swap is valid | 18:24 |
| ShootEmUp | yes it takes awile | 18:24 |
| ShootEmUp | depends on the size of the partition | 18:24 |
| ShootEmUp | any reason your copying a partition? | 18:25 |
| MorphixNW | creating a swap file | 18:25 |
| ShootEmUp | unstead of a swap partition? | 18:25 |
| MorphixNW | I am following a guide, maybe not the best one lol | 18:26 |
| ShootEmUp | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#How do I add more swap? | 18:27 |
| ShootEmUp | short, sweet, and to the point | 18:27 |
| MorphixNW | thats the one I am using | 18:28 |
| ShootEmUp | I may start using a swap file, that swap partition is getting anoying | 18:28 |
| ShootEmUp | are you copying your sda1 drive? | 18:29 |
| MorphixNW | nope | 18:29 |
| MorphixNW | I deleted the swap partition | 18:30 |
| MorphixNW | reclaimed the drive space for my pics lol | 18:30 |
| MorphixNW | but now I want more speed | 18:30 |
| ShootEmUp | thats what I want to do | 18:30 |
| MorphixNW | so I am adding a 4gb swap file to go with the 1gb of RAM | 18:30 |
| MorphixNW | wow adding a swap file doesnt require a reboot :) | 18:31 |
| ShootEmUp | nope | 18:31 |
| ShootEmUp | sudo swapon /mnt/4GB.swap | 18:31 |
| MorphixNW | indeed | 18:32 |
| MorphixNW | I like the swappiness too | 18:32 |
| ShootEmUp | swap on, untill reboot | 18:32 |
| ShootEmUp | remember to edit your fstab | 18:32 |
| MorphixNW | I use devede so, I am hoping that swap will decrease the amount of time | 18:32 |
| ShootEmUp | devede? whats that? | 18:34 |
| MorphixNW | it turns avi files into iso images | 18:34 |
| ShootEmUp | DVDs? or just ISO | 18:35 |
| MorphixNW | I convert files from my digidvcam into iso images that I can easily make DVDs from | 18:35 |
| MorphixNW | but it takes a lot of time | 18:35 |
| MorphixNW | about 1hr 20mins for 1GB of AVI | 18:35 |
| ShootEmUp | stuff like that does | 18:36 |
| MorphixNW | so I am hoping that swap will decrease that time | 18:36 |
| ShootEmUp | maybe | 18:36 |
| MorphixNW | cant make it worse :) | 18:36 |
| ShootEmUp | nope | 18:36 |
| MorphixNW | ob btw, that stupid machine i was trying to usb boot....well its now installing from cdrom | 18:37 |
| ShootEmUp | you put a cdrom drive in? | 18:37 |
| MorphixNW | dangling off the side | 18:37 |
| ShootEmUp | lol | 18:38 |
| MorphixNW | it has no internal bays | 18:38 |
| ShootEmUp | yeah, I have my 2nd hard disk in a CDROM bay | 18:38 |
| MorphixNW | hey I dug out an Apricot LS Pro 486 100Mhz :P | 18:38 |
| ShootEmUp | 100MHz! | 18:38 |
| MorphixNW | yeah | 18:38 |
| ShootEmUp | wow thats fast | 18:38 |
| MorphixNW | ohhhh the speed is incredible | 18:39 |
| MorphixNW | it has 64mb of 30pin DIMM | 18:39 |
| MorphixNW | I remember it used to run Bin98 pretty well | 18:39 |
| ShootEmUp | ouch, xubuntu will not run on that | 18:39 |
| MorphixNW | i used to use as my surfing machine | 18:39 |
| ShootEmUp | I used to use Bin98 too | 18:40 |
| MorphixNW | onboard VGA and NIC (RJ45 and BNC) but no PCI Slots | 18:40 |
| MorphixNW | i would like to find a use for it, but I am hard pressed to think of what that might be | 18:41 |
| ShootEmUp | I got an idea | 18:41 |
| ShootEmUp | file and printer server! | 18:41 |
| MorphixNW | it would probably run SmoothWall, however, it only has one NIC and no space for another | 18:41 |
| MorphixNW | I dont really print much | 18:42 |
| charlie-tca | get a switch, you only one NIC per machine | 18:42 |
| ShootEmUp | just an idea | 18:42 |
| MorphixNW | smoothwall requires two nics | 18:42 |
| MorphixNW | probably stay sat there for another decade lol | 18:43 |
| ShootEmUp | probably | 18:44 |
| MorphixNW | I cant bring myself to bin it | 18:44 |
| MorphixNW | I might just the case | 18:44 |
| MorphixNW | make it hold a MINI-ATX | 18:44 |
| MorphixNW | I have a couple of Mini-ATX VIA400's | 18:45 |
| MorphixNW | 400Mhz Embedded with 2xSDRAM Slots | 18:45 |
| ShootEmUp | that will run a ubuntu sever install | 18:45 |
| ShootEmUp | if you want a server | 18:46 |
| ShootEmUp | just tried the swap file guide | 18:48 |
| MorphixNW | ok my swap is up and running (I think) | 18:48 |
| MorphixNW | me too lol | 18:48 |
| ShootEmUp | free -m will tell you how much swap you got | 18:49 |
| MorphixNW | swap: 4095 | 18:49 |
| ShootEmUp | yup its working | 18:49 |
| MorphixNW | seems my mem is maxed | 18:49 |
| MorphixNW | Mem: 991 total, 975 used, 16 free | 18:50 |
| ShootEmUp | look where is says -/+ buffers | 18:50 |
| ShootEmUp | that tells you how much ram is really free | 18:50 |
| MorphixNW | 212 used, 779 free | 18:50 |
| MorphixNW | much better numbers :) | 18:50 |
| ShootEmUp | theres your answer | 18:50 |
| MorphixNW | now lets give it something to crunch on | 18:50 |
| ShootEmUp | linux uses all the ram all the time | 18:51 |
| ShootEmUp | for buffering and cacheing | 18:51 |
| ShootEmUp | but can be freed at anytime | 18:51 |
| MorphixNW | btw last night I install asterisk but I cant see it | 18:52 |
| ShootEmUp | okay, I don't know anything about it. sorry | 18:52 |
| ShootEmUp | wow, fluxbox WM is only 9MB | 18:54 |
| ShootEmUp | VLC media player is bigger | 18:56 |
| ShootEmUp | my name peggy, you have problem please | 18:57 |
| MorphixNW | hi peggy lol | 18:58 |
| ShootEmUp | from that credit card add | 18:58 |
| MorphixNW | i probably wont of seen that | 18:59 |
| ShootEmUp | :( | 19:00 |
| ShootEmUp | it some russian man pretending to be peggy | 19:00 |
| MorphixNW | who is peggy? | 19:01 |
| MorphixNW | peggy mitchel? | 19:01 |
| ShootEmUp | nope, he just says his name is peggy | 19:01 |
| ShootEmUp | youtube link in5 | 19:01 |
| MorphixNW | ok :P | 19:01 |
| MorphixNW | how can I change swappiness? | 19:02 |
| ShootEmUp | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRLwKw9up3s | 19:02 |
| ShootEmUp | cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness to check it | 19:03 |
| ShootEmUp | gksudo gedit /etc/sysctl.conf | 19:03 |
| ShootEmUp | to edit it | 19:03 |
| MorphixNW | yeah, but how do I lower the value? | 19:03 |
| MorphixNW | it says "new file" | 19:04 |
| ShootEmUp | change gedit to mousepad for Xubnntu | 19:04 |
| MorphixNW | I use nano | 19:04 |
| ShootEmUp | I have mine open, but it doesn't say anything about swap | 19:05 |
| MorphixNW | swappiness | 19:06 |
| MorphixNW | it should have a value of 60 | 19:06 |
| ShootEmUp | "Search for vm.swappiness and change its value as desired. If vm.swappiness does not exist, add it to the end of the file like so:" | 19:07 |
| MorphixNW | I got it now | 19:07 |
| MorphixNW | oh lol ok there ya go :) | 19:07 |
| ShootEmUp | vm.swappiness=10 | 19:07 |
| ShootEmUp | or what ever | 19:07 |
| MorphixNW | changes made and system going down | 19:09 |
| ShootEmUp | me to | 19:09 |
| ShootEmUp | installing vbox GA | 19:14 |
| MorphixNW | ? | 19:14 |
| ShootEmUp | got xubuntu in Vbox, I run Ubuntu now | 19:14 |
| ShootEmUp | Xubuntu so I can boot up and test fixes | 19:15 |
| MorphixNW | can I chance the nice value from command line? | 19:17 |
| ShootEmUp | what do you mean? | 19:17 |
| MorphixNW | priority | 19:17 |
| ShootEmUp | change priority? | 19:18 |
| MorphixNW | yeah | 19:18 |
| MorphixNW | from command line | 19:18 |
| ShootEmUp | Idk | 19:18 |
| ShootEmUp | I guess so | 19:19 |
| NewbieOuan | hello | 19:19 |
| ShootEmUp | hey | 19:19 |
| NewbieOuan | Nice movie (shoot em up) | 19:20 |
| ShootEmUp | MorphixNW, http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/how-to-change-priority-of-a-process-in-ubuntu-linux/ | 19:20 |
| NewbieOuan | can I ask a simple question? | 19:20 |
| ShootEmUp | shoot | 19:20 |
| NewbieOuan | lol :) | 19:21 |
| ShootEmUp | had to be done | 19:21 |
| * charlie-tca thought we only want hard quesstions | 19:21 | |
| NewbieOuan | is xubuntu suitable for old PC's , or little notebooks with limited powers? | 19:21 |
| charlie-tca | or any other computer | 19:21 |
| ShootEmUp | either | 19:21 |
| ShootEmUp | or all | 19:22 |
| NewbieOuan | it has small requirements? | 19:22 |
| ShootEmUp | yes | 19:22 |
| NewbieOuan | I want to install it on a EeePc (with 1,2 GHz processor) and a laptop with pentium 4 | 19:22 |
| ShootEmUp | should work perfectly | 19:23 |
| NewbieOuan | :) grazie ...obrega...efharisto...thanks | 19:23 |
| ShootEmUp | remember to come here if you need help | 19:23 |
| NewbieOuan | will do | 19:24 |
| MorphixNW | I think it will work just fine OTB | 19:25 |
| NewbieOuan | OTB? | 19:26 |
| MorphixNW | out the box | 19:26 |
| NewbieOuan | I guess I am what my name states | 19:26 |
| ShootEmUp | MorphixNW, I'm tring to kill my swap partition and just go with a swap file | 19:26 |
| MorphixNW | i used gparted to do it | 19:26 |
| ShootEmUp | I know, I just have to remove it from fstab | 19:27 |
| MorphixNW | wiped out the partition, then recreated it as ext2 with a mount point in my home dir | 19:27 |
| MorphixNW | then add it to fstab | 19:27 |
| MorphixNW | just remove the swap line or comment it out | 19:27 |
| MorphixNW | but also you will need to add the new drive in fstab | 19:27 |
| MorphixNW | I recovered 3GB :P | 19:28 |
| MorphixNW | which stores my pics nicely | 19:28 |
| ShootEmUp | I know, I'm killing swap, then using the live CD to extened my / partition | 19:28 |
| MorphixNW | I suppose you could also expand one of the other partitions to use up the space | 19:28 |
| MorphixNW | :) | 19:28 |
| MorphixNW | hate to say but Bindows from Blista onwards has been able to do that without a reboot | 19:30 |
| ShootEmUp | I know, I have vista dual-boot | 19:30 |
| MorphixNW | I think even 2K3 Server could too | 19:30 |
| MorphixNW | btw 2K3 is my fav OS of all time | 19:30 |
| MorphixNW | certainly a credit to MS for once | 19:31 |
| MorphixNW | I have a Bin2K3 web server that has ran for 3yrs without a hitch | 19:31 |
| ShootEmUp | Bin98 is my fav | 19:31 |
| MorphixNW | on old solid Compaq Hardware mind | 19:31 |
| ShootEmUp | yup | 19:32 |
| MorphixNW | I love Compaq hardware its bomb proof | 19:32 |
| MorphixNW | I have 2xPL800's | 19:32 |
| MorphixNW | 1xPL3000 (monster big but dog slow) | 19:32 |
| MorphixNW | and 1xDell PowerEdge 1850 | 19:32 |
| ShootEmUp | I got an old HP, it rab good when I used it | 19:33 |
| MorphixNW | I had the Dell running CentOS | 19:33 |
| MorphixNW | it has 2x600Mhz and 1GB of RAM ECC (4x256) | 19:34 |
| MorphixNW | I litterally have enough hardware to build a data-centre in my attic :) | 19:35 |
| MorphixNW | years ago I would of had every single working machine up running and doing something (probably pointlessly) :) | 19:36 |
| MorphixNW | I found a hard drive that when plugged in booted up a working installation of Mandrake 9.2 that reported the last login data as 2004 | 19:37 |
| ShootEmUp | lol | 19:37 |
| MorphixNW | I was impressed to see it boot :) | 19:37 |
| ShootEmUp | alright, back up to xubuntu, safe and sound | 19:38 |
| MorphixNW | :) | 19:38 |
| ShootEmUp | no swap partition any more | 19:38 |
| MorphixNW | awesome | 19:38 |
| MorphixNW | man this installation is dog slow | 19:39 |
| MorphixNW | took it forever on this one too tho | 19:39 |
| ShootEmUp | 1023MB swap (1GB swap file) | 19:39 |
| MorphixNW | maybe its because I am LVM Encryption? | 19:39 |
| ShootEmUp | most likely | 19:40 |
| MorphixNW | howcome pulseaudio uses so much CPU? | 19:41 |
| MorphixNW | it sets itself to -11 | 19:41 |
| MorphixNW | manually lowering it to normal doesnt seem to affect it working, so why does tit automatically run so high? | 19:42 |
| ShootEmUp | I'm not sure | 19:44 |
| ShootEmUp | mine isn't runing that high | 19:45 |
| MorphixNW | can it be altered? | 19:46 |
| ShootEmUp | I'm not quite sure, time to google | 19:46 |
| ShootEmUp | one thing, try adding yourself to the group pulse-rt | 19:48 |
| ShootEmUp | some say that helps | 19:48 |
| ShootEmUp | how much cpu is it using right now | 19:50 |
| ShootEmUp | you still there MorphixNW? | 19:54 |
| ShootEmUp | guess not | 19:56 |
| ShootEmUp | gparted live cd only uses 40MB of RAM | 20:06 |
| ShootEmUp | gotta go now, ttyl everyone! | 20:20 |
| cinmoon | i have installed ubuntu-desktop but do not have the option to use gnome on the login screen (meekrat) | 20:56 |
| charlie-tca | Did you install Xubuntu? | 20:58 |
| knome | merry christmas everybody :) | 20:58 |
| charlie-tca | Merry Christmas, knome | 20:58 |
| charlie-tca | Are you having a good holiday time? | 20:59 |
| charlie-tca | cinmoon: Did you install Xubuntu? | 20:59 |
| cinmoon | yes, also tried unity, there is a xubuntu option but it just hangs on the desktop background ctrl+alt+del to bringup the shutdown menu is all that I could get working. I'm currently in a mythbuntu/xubuntu session, which works after closing the mythtv front end | 21:00 |
| charlie-tca | Xubuntu does not use gnome, and it also doesn't use unity | 21:00 |
| cinmoon | the point is, none of the desktops are working, including straight xubuntu | 21:01 |
| knome | charlie-tca, no complaining. read a good book, having a beer and listening to good music. though i would rather be home than here at my mum's, since i'm a bit sick | 21:01 |
| knome | charlie-tca, and you? | 21:01 |
| charlie-tca | Sounds like something wrong with the install. If you have unity, mythbuntu, etc, all in there | 21:01 |
| charlie-tca | Sorry to hear you are sick. Hope you get better fast. | 21:02 |
| charlie-tca | Will have a nice day, I think. | 21:02 |
| knome | charlie-tca, ah yes, timezones... :) | 21:03 |
| charlie-tca | yeah! | 21:03 |
| * charlie-tca also doesn't really like christmas much | 21:03 | |
| vinnl | Ugh, my holiday isn't until 0:00 tonight... But happy holidays everybody :) | 21:03 |
| charlie-tca | Merry Christmas, vinnl | 21:03 |
| knome | vinnl, have a nice christmas you too :) | 21:03 |
| charlie-tca | Mine is still 10 hours away, but Australia is 8:00am Christmas Day! | 21:06 |
| knome | we're less than hour to midnight as well | 21:07 |
| vinnl | Two hours for me | 21:09 |
| knome | :) | 21:10 |
| ShootEmUp | I'm backk! | 21:20 |
| knome | welcome back | 21:21 |
| ShootEmUp | It's good to be back | 21:22 |
| ShootEmUp | soooo... any problems to solve? | 21:29 |
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| ShootEmUp | I'm back! again | 22:37 |
| Krakish | Hi i want to make ubuntu router for home my network isinternet(pppoe)>ubuntu router with nat>home network would you be sookind to give me some tips and guides | 22:44 |
| saintly | hey hey ppl | 23:44 |
| vinnl | !hi | 23:44 |
| ubottu | Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! | 23:44 |
| saintly | alirght, workin on a fresh install, and im configuring Xorg, in order to create a xor.conf file.. unfurtunately, it wont detect my mouse correctly.. any way i can fix that? | 23:45 |
| saintly | where it would state the mouses driver, it simply says mouse.. thats lovley thank you linux dev :D | 23:47 |
| saintly | any ideas folks? | 23:48 |
| vinnl | !mouse | 23:48 |
| ubottu | Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto | 23:48 |
| vinnl | Nope :S | 23:49 |
| saintly | already tried there. im know theres a code that tells you what your drivers are... lspci? | 23:49 |
| vinnl | I believe that lists what hardware you have in PCI slots. Or something like that... | 23:50 |
| saintly | lsmouse? lol | 23:50 |
| saintly | !drivers | 23:51 |
| Sysi | lspci -k | 23:51 |
| saintly | well now i cant see my mouse.. oops too much downloads in the software manager | 23:52 |
| saintly | thatll tell me sysi? | 23:52 |
| Sysi | it shows kernel modulest that your HW uses | 23:52 |
| saintly | well as soon as i find my cursor ill try it. | 23:53 |
| saintly | happy christmas eve by the way, everyone | 23:55 |
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