[01:09] <ShootEmUp> hello
[01:10] <ShootEmUp> whats up?
[01:13] <ShootEmUp> anyone have problems?
[01:15] <ShootEmUp> My name peggy, you have problem please
[01:18] <ShootEmUp> guess i'll go then, ttyl
[01:26] <reis> hi from turkey at the start on the dos screen it writes no soundcard found but the sound card seems ok
[01:27] <charlie-tca> reis: then it is fine
[01:28] <charlie-tca> It must need something else working to see it
[01:28] <reis> just headfones and the laptops speakers work together
[01:31] <reis> someone can help?
[01:36] <reis> someone can help?
[01:40] <ShootEmUp> hello
[01:40] <ShootEmUp> My name peggy, you have problem please
[01:41] <charlie-tca> Help reis with just headfones and the laptops speakers work together
[01:41] <ShootEmUp> they work at the same time?
[01:42] <ShootEmUp> I have that problem with my desktop, but I just turn my speakers off
[01:44] <reis_> yes but ı cant turn off speaker when ı do they both go,
[01:44] <ShootEmUp> you should be able to just go to audio options, and select just your headphones
[01:44] <reis_> trying
[01:45] <ShootEmUp> find the audio options in your menu, under system-pref i think
[01:45] <ShootEmUp> tell me when you have them up
[01:46] <reis_> ı dont have system prefecenses :D
[01:46] <ShootEmUp> look in your menus for Audio Options
[01:46] <ShootEmUp> every menu
[01:46] <reis_> just alsamixer
[01:46] <reis_> no menu at all
[01:48] <ShootEmUp> okay, open alsamixer
[01:48] <reis_> opened
[01:49] <reis_> in the alsa mixer no sign for headphones
[01:49] <ShootEmUp> anything that says speakers?
[01:49] <reis_> yes
[01:49] <reis_> no not
[01:49] <ShootEmUp> mute speakers
[01:50] <reis_> in that meaning
[01:50] <ShootEmUp> ohh ok
[01:50] <reis_> ok
[01:50] <reis_> triyin
[01:51] <reis_> no nothing happaned
[01:51] <ShootEmUp> did it work?
[01:51] <reis_> no
[01:51] <reis_> voice coming from two places
[01:52] <reis_> when ı shut headphones both go
[01:53] <ShootEmUp> your using Xubuntu right?
[01:53] <reis_> ı think there ı must write to terminal 2 things then there becomes a tik in the mixer
[01:53] <reis_> yes 10.10
[01:54] <reis_> but what was they ı forgot :d
[01:56] <ShootEmUp> give me a minute, got to do something
[01:56] <reis_> ok thank you
[02:02] <ShootEmUp> try finding the PulseAudio Manager
[02:02] <ShootEmUp> It should be in pref I think
[02:02] <reis_> what
[02:03] <ShootEmUp> Find the PulseAudio Manager
[02:03] <ShootEmUp> just look in your menus
[02:03] <reis_> alsamixer want my sound car name
[02:03] <reis_> what shall ı write
[02:04] <ShootEmUp> don't write anything
[02:04] <ShootEmUp> what did you go to?
[02:04] <reis_> ok
[02:05] <reis_> dont have pulse audio
[02:05] <reis_> ı must download
[02:05] <ShootEmUp> no
[02:05] <poropeukalo> this is my first time i use linux ever
[02:05] <ShootEmUp> you should have it
[02:05] <reis_> mee too
[02:05] <poropeukalo> i just istalled it
[02:05] <Guest58945> alright now...
[02:05] <reis_> where nothing in the list
[02:06] <ShootEmUp> don't worry, I've only been using linux for 6 months
[02:06] <reis_> welcome my friend
[02:06] <Guest58945> i have an issue with my xubuntu 10.10, it will come up to thelogin screen, ill login, itll flash like it s goign to desktop and the itll revert back to login, any ideas? im totally stumped
[02:06] <poropeukalo> merry xmas to all :)
[02:07] <reis_> not for me ım muslim :D
[02:07] <ShootEmUp> you can still get presents
[02:07] <poropeukalo> xD
[02:07] <reis_> ı dont know xmas
[02:08] <reis_> celebration day
[02:08] <poropeukalo> i was just writing "so you dont get presents"
[02:08] <ShootEmUp> !cookie | reis_
[02:08] <reis_> yes
[02:08] <ShootEmUp> merry xmas!
[02:08] <Guest58945> nothing?
[02:08] <charlie-tca> xmas is not a word! Please use real english only, since there are many who do not speak english as a first language.
[02:08] <reis_> is this new year celebration
[02:09] <reis_> what is it :D
[02:09] <poropeukalo> im from finland :/ sorry..
[02:09] <ShootEmUp> Merry Chistmas
[02:09] <Guest58945> no help at all? lol
[02:09] <charlie-tca> Guest58945: yes, idea
[02:09] <ShootEmUp> and I spelled it wrong
[02:09] <Guest58945> !offtopic
[02:09] <Guest58945> whats ur plan chalie
[02:10] <reis_> shoot em up
[02:10] <charlie-tca> Is this a new installation?
[02:10] <reis_> one question ok
[02:10] <Guest58945> no, ive done quite a bit with it
[02:10] <ShootEmUp> yes
[02:10] <charlie-tca> So what was the last thing you did before it decided you can't login anymore?
[02:10] <ShootEmUp> reis_, I'm still working on your problem.
[02:10] <reis_> ı open cd but film doesnt start now what
[02:10] <reis_> thanks
[02:11] <ShootEmUp> just thought I would let you know
[02:11] <charlie-tca> Guest58945: So what was the last thing you did before it decided you can't login anymore?
[02:11] <Guest58945> i was playing with the 3-d cube last night, that was the last thing i got to work, other than making a new xorg.conf file.
[02:11] <Guest58945> this is saintly btw :D
[02:11] <ShootEmUp> Its awesome
[02:12] <charlie-tca> Have you tried moving the new xorg.conf ? Maybe that is the issue
[02:12] <reis_> charlie what does tca mean
[02:13] <charlie-tca> Guest58945: you can just go to a tty with Ctrl+Alt+f2
[02:13] <ShootEmUp> reis_, this might help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[02:13] <Guest58945> its located under etc/X11/xorg.conf, that seemed to work fine. i cant remove it, the computer wont let me lol.
[02:13] <charlie-tca> reis_: I am working a different issue
[02:13] <charlie-tca> Guest58945: after logging in, go to /etc/X11
[02:13] <Guest58945> im in tty currently
[02:13] <reis_> shoot em up thank you a lot
[02:14] <charlie-tca> Guest58945: use      sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old_file
[02:14] <ShootEmUp> I'll keep trying, but this seems to be a hard bug to kill
[02:14] <reis_> for me
[02:15] <charlie-tca> Guest58945: then you will restart using     sudo shutdown -r now
[02:15] <ShootEmUp> reis_, what is the make and model of your computer
[02:15] <reis_> ı have downloaded the restricted areas but film doesnt open
[02:16] <ShootEmUp> video won't play?
[02:16] <reis_> vestel yes
[02:16] <Guest58945> charlie-tca: attempting login
[02:16] <reis_> dont start
[02:16] <ShootEmUp> have you tried a differant video player?
[02:17] <charlie-tca> Guest58945: work?
[02:17] <reis_> no
[02:17] <Guest58945> charlie-tca: nope
[02:17] <reis_> ı will try
[02:17] <charlie-tca> Guest58945: back to the tty
[02:17] <Guest58945> yep
[02:18] <ShootEmUp> reis_, try vlc, sudo apt-get install vlc
[02:18] <charlie-tca> Guest58945: now going to delete a file or two... be cautious
[02:18] <reis_> which do you preffer
[02:18] <reis_> ok
[02:18] <Guest58945> charlie-tca alright
[02:18] <reis_> vlc
[02:18] <charlie-tca> Guest58945:      rm -r .cache
[02:19] <Guest58945> it asks if i want to, press what, y?
[02:19] <charlie-tca> Guest58945: cd .config
[02:19] <charlie-tca> Guest58945: yes
[02:19] <charlie-tca> Guest58945: we need the cache files to delete
[02:19] <charlie-tca> Guest58945: next is         cd .config
[02:19] <reis_> shoot
[02:20] <reis_> do ı have to mount cdro
[02:20] <ShootEmUp> reis_, once it is installed, right click on the file, and select play or open with VLC
[02:20] <reis_> m
[02:20] <charlie-tca> Guest58945:      cd xfce4/xfcong/xfce-perchannel-xml
[02:20] <reis_> ok
[02:20] <charlie-tca> Guest58945:      cd xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml
[02:20] <charlie-tca> my mistake.
[02:20] <reis_> avseq file
[02:20] <Guest58945> no such flie charlie-tc cd .config
[02:21] <charlie-tca> hmmm
[02:21] <reis_> shoot
[02:21] <charlie-tca> Guest58945: try    cd /home/USERNAME/.config
[02:21] <ShootEmUp> reis_, i think it is best to move to privte chat, to stop filling up the channel
[02:21] <reis_> ok
[02:22] <Guest58945> the perchannel file isnt around either
[02:22] <charlie-tca> Guest58945: perchannel won't be unless you have    .config
[02:22] <charlie-tca> it is inside it
[02:23] <Guest58945> no USERNAME file
[02:23] <charlie-tca> no, that would be your login name instead of USERNAME
[02:24] <Guest58945> ahh ROFL
[02:24] <charlie-tca> :-)
[02:24] <charlie-tca> I really want there to be a .config
[02:24] <Guest58945> wont let me remove it, says its a directory
[02:25] <charlie-tca> don't remove it. is it there?
[02:25] <Saintly> it is there
[02:25] <charlie-tca> are we in .config now?
[02:25] <Saintly> how do i get in it? :)
[02:26] <charlie-tca> cd /home/USERNAME/.config
[02:26] <charlie-tca> USERNAME is your login name
[02:26] <Saintly> ahh gotacha, it now says config infront of $
[02:27] <charlie-tca> that's the place. Now, exactly as this shows     cd xfce4/xconf/xfce-perchannel-xml
[02:27] <charlie-tca> Saintly: ??
[02:28] <Saintly> charlie-tca: in it :D
[02:28] <charlie-tca> Now we remove a single file       rm xfce4-session.xml
[02:29] <Saintly> done
[02:29] <charlie-tca> now we get out of there      cd   hit enter
[02:29] <Saintly> done :D
[02:30] <charlie-tca> now use Alt+F7 to go to gdm
[02:30] <charlie-tca> now login
[02:30] <Saintly> ah gotta restart it lol
[02:31] <Saintly> charlie-tca: nothin :(
[02:31] <charlie-tca> what is nothin. ?  no gdm screen
[02:32] <Saintly> im back to login, after loggin in.
[02:32] <charlie-tca> or it just cycles back when you enter name and password?
[02:32] <Saintly> yes
[02:34] <charlie-tca> hm, now we get aggressive about it
[02:34] <charlie-tca> back to the tty
[02:34] <Saintly> ok hold one
[02:34] <charlie-tca> this time you will have to reset things after logging in
[02:35] <Saintly> thats fine with me
[02:35] <Saintly> ill refresh the entire system, as logn as i dont have to reinstall the OS lol
[02:35] <charlie-tca> Saintly: in the tty, logged in, right?
[02:35] <Saintly> yes
[02:36] <charlie-tca> Saintly:        rm -r /home/USERNAME/.cache
[02:36] <charlie-tca> and yes, you want to
[02:37] <charlie-tca> Saintly:      rm -r /home/USERNAME/.config/xfce4/xconf/xfce-perchannel-xml
[02:37] <Saintly> done, want to what? refresh the whole thing?
[02:37] <charlie-tca> no, want to remove or delete
[02:37] <charlie-tca> did those both?
[02:38] <ShootEmUp> man reis_ had some hard problems
[02:38] <Saintly> not the second one
[02:38] <charlie-tca> Saintly:     rm /home/USERNAME/.gconfd/saved_state
[02:38] <charlie-tca> got to do them all at the same time
[02:39] <charlie-tca> ShootEmUp: this one is funner... ;-)
[02:39] <Saintly> hey guess what, no such file :D
[02:39] <ShootEmUp> charlie-tca, what is?
[02:39] <charlie-tca> which one, Saintly ?
[02:40] <Saintly> the saved state, and the perchannel
[02:40] <charlie-tca> ShootEmUp: won't login past gdm
[02:40] <Saintly> nope
[02:40] <charlie-tca> per channel is there, we were in it before
[02:40] <charlie-tca> you did something wrong typing it.
[02:41] <Saintly> copied exactly what you wrote, says it doesnt
[02:41] <charlie-tca> Saintly: let's do it like before then.
[02:41] <Saintly> ouch :D
[02:41] <charlie-tca> cd /home/USERNAME/.config
[02:41] <charlie-tca> you can use up-arrow to repeat the commands, too
[02:42] <Saintly> oh wow.. um no such file
[02:42] <charlie-tca> yes there is
[02:42] <well_laid_lawn> if all else fails use the tab key
[02:43] <Saintly> didnt we delete my username? it says no file or diretory
[02:43] <charlie-tca> are you using the forward slash? and the DOT in front of config
[02:43] <charlie-tca> no, we did not delete the username
[02:43] <Saintly> yes, let me try one more time
[02:43] <charlie-tca> aren't you logged in ?
[02:43] <Saintly> im logged into tty yea
[02:44] <ShootEmUp> you think its a problem with GDM?
[02:44] <charlie-tca> then the user has to be there
[02:44] <Saintly> it says, no such file :(((
[02:44] <charlie-tca> It might be a compiz/gtk issue
[02:44] <charlie-tca> try ls -lA
[02:44] <charlie-tca> those are small L not eyes
[02:45] <Saintly> thats alotta stuff
[02:45] <charlie-tca> then you did not delete things yet
[02:45] <charlie-tca> and we have to, to make it work
[02:46] <Saintly> i do have compiz, can we delete that?
[02:46] <charlie-tca> we just need to delete the perchannel directory, I think
[02:46] <Saintly> alright, goive it to meh :D
[02:46] <charlie-tca> cd /home/USERNAME/.config/
[02:47] <ShootEmUp> If you run out of options, you could remove GDM, and login at command line, then tyoe startx
[02:47] <ShootEmUp> If its a GDM problem
[02:47] <Saintly> got it this time, i switched to antoher tty and it worked
[02:48] <charlie-tca> good
[02:48] <charlie-tca> good, so we are in .config?
[02:48] <Saintly> charlie-tca:yep :D
[02:49] <charlie-tca> cd xfce4/xconf/
[02:49] <charlie-tca> now we remove the directory we don't want...
[02:49] <Saintly> alright
[02:49] <charlie-tca> Saintly: rm -r xfce-perchannel-xml
[02:50] <Saintly> ahh wait, xfce4/xconf no such file
[02:50] <charlie-tca> type   ls -l
[02:50] <charlie-tca> hit enter
[02:50] <charlie-tca> what does it show?
[02:51] <Saintly> ive got xfce4 in there
[02:51] <charlie-tca> okay,    cd xfce4
[02:51] <Saintly> alright, now xconf?
[02:51] <charlie-tca> cd xconf
[02:52] <charlie-tca> type   ls -l
[02:52] <charlie-tca> hit enter
[02:52] <Saintly> no file, i do have xf conf
[02:53] <charlie-tca> you have something xf  conf with a space in it?
[02:53] <Saintly> no srry xfconf
[02:53] <charlie-tca> that's the one
[02:53] <charlie-tca> cd xfconf
[02:53] <charlie-tca> must be tired now....
[02:53] <Saintly> lol
[02:54] <charlie-tca> got there, right?
[02:54] <Saintly> yes
[02:54] <charlie-tca> Saintly: rm -r xfce-perchannel-xml
[02:54] <Saintly> done
[02:54] <charlie-tca> cd  ENTER
[02:54] <Saintly> btw where do i pick up my award for most difficult user?
[02:54] <Saintly> done
[02:55] <charlie-tca> heh
[02:55] <ShootEmUp> !cookie | charlie-tca
[02:55] <charlie-tca> now, just use Alt+F7
[02:55] <Saintly> you needa get paid man.. ok
[02:55] <charlie-tca> you should be at the gdm screen again
[02:55] <ShootEmUp> charlie-tca, just had to be done
[02:55] <charlie-tca> no problem
[02:55] <charlie-tca> we did not restart, right?
[02:56] <Saintly> ur gonna hate this... im still looping.
[02:56] <Saintly> no restart
[02:56] <charlie-tca> did you change the login logo?
[02:56] <Saintly> ???
[02:57] <charlie-tca> back to the tty
[02:57] <Saintly> ouch
[02:57] <charlie-tca> You are still logged in, right?
[02:57] <charlie-tca> metacity --replace
[02:57] <Saintly> yes
[02:58] <Saintly> dont have metacity
[02:58] <charlie-tca> huh?
[02:58] <ShootEmUp> ???
[02:58] <Saintly> currently not isntalled
[02:58] <ShootEmUp> !info metacity
[02:59] <charlie-tca> okay, try    apt-cache policy xfwm4
[02:59] <charlie-tca> Is that installed?
[02:59] <Saintly> yes
[03:01] <charlie-tca> try it...    xfwm4 --replace
[03:01] <ShootEmUp> I gotta go now, ttyl everyone!
[03:01] <charlie-tca> you got any ideas here?
[03:01] <Saintly> Gtk-warning **: cannot open display:
[03:02] <Saintly> idk
[03:02] <charlie-tca> okay, now we got something, huh?
[03:02] <charlie-tca> cd /etc/X11
[03:03] <charlie-tca> looking for xorg.conf or failsafe.xorg.conf
[03:03] <Saintly> hows xorg.conf.old_file
[03:03] <charlie-tca> that should be okay
[03:04] <Saintly> remove it?
[03:04] <charlie-tca> no
[03:04] <Saintly> ok
[03:04] <charlie-tca> might need it again
[03:05] <Saintly> i know how to make another and get the system to see it anyway
[03:05] <charlie-tca> let's put it back...       sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old_file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:05] <Saintly> k
[03:06] <charlie-tca> restart
[03:06] <Saintly> restart the computer?
[03:06] <charlie-tca> yup
[03:06] <charlie-tca> sudo shutdown -r now
[03:07] <Saintly> just did sudo reboot
[03:07] <charlie-tca> that works too
[03:07] <Saintly> login loop still on
[03:09] <charlie-tca> Now I am at a dead end.
[03:10] <Saintly> you know what... i think its time i find that bot disk again
[03:10] <Saintly> boot*
[03:11] <charlie-tca> got one more thing. could try killing gdm and starting the desktop, but I don't know how long it would work, either.
[03:12] <Saintly> let me try wiping the whole system first, see if i can get it to just the regualr programs
[03:12] <charlie-tca> You can try     sudo startxfce4 in a tty yet
[03:12] <Saintly> thayt pulled up fatal server error charlie
[03:15] <Saintly> what does that tell you? if anything lol
[03:15] <charlie-tca> Tells me video driver
[03:15] <charlie-tca> wonder if you can remove compiz now
[03:15] <Saintly> says: if this server is no ponger running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock and start again
[03:16] <charlie-tca> try that
[03:16] <charlie-tca> it is easy....     sudo rm /tmp/.X0-lock
[03:17] <charlie-tca> and that is a zero after X
[03:17] <Saintly> done
[03:17] <charlie-tca> now try logging in
[03:17] <Saintly> fatal serv: cannot establish any listening sockets
[03:18] <charlie-tca> i give up... :-(
[03:18] <Saintly> alright, how do i take out GDM
[03:18] <charlie-tca> sudo apt-get remove gdm
[03:19] <Saintly> almost done
[03:19] <charlie-tca> but you might try stopping it first?
[03:19] <Saintly> why?
[03:19] <charlie-tca> seems like the thing to say?
[03:20] <Saintly> LOL y is that
[03:20] <Saintly> did i just break it all?
[03:20] <charlie-tca> heh, no, I think you did that already
[03:20] <Saintly> ROFL me too
[03:21] <charlie-tca> lol, might have broke it more, though...
[03:21] <Saintly> thanks to compiz, in my opinion
[03:21] <Saintly> well it says its going to run in low graphics mode
[03:22] <Saintly> wow its slow now
[03:22] <charlie-tca> that's better. At least it might work?
[03:23] <charlie-tca> heh, you did not want to reinstall, right?
[03:23] <Saintly> alright, im in tty1
[03:23] <Saintly> and i will if i have to, just not today
[03:23] <charlie-tca> except now you don't have gdm
[03:24] <charlie-tca> now you have two choices, startx will start an xfce session
[03:24] <charlie-tca> startxfce4  will start a xubuntu session, which is what you are used to seeing
[03:25] <Saintly> i did startx, now what?
[03:26] <Saintly> niether one is giving me login options
[03:26] <charlie-tca> it should just go to the desktop without a login screen
[03:26] <Saintly> no such luck
[03:26] <Saintly> looks like i broke the little toy
[03:26] <charlie-tca> that's bad, I think
[03:27] <charlie-tca> lol, you think?
[03:27] <Saintly> well that was fun
[03:27] <charlie-tca> Only one suggestion left... wait until tomorrow and ask ShootemUp for ideas now
[03:27] <Saintly> ill find the cd later and reinstall, spend a day getting everything back.
[03:28] <Saintly> not that bad to me, its just an old laptop
[03:28] <charlie-tca> well, that too.
[03:28] <Saintly> i do have to find the cd tho, i lost it
[03:28] <charlie-tca> I would do it that way, but not too many seem to thing reinstalling is good
[03:28] <charlie-tca> you just ain't got no luck, huh?
[03:29] <Saintly> it doesnt bother me, i didnt lose anything imprtant, and i love redoing it in a diff way :D
[03:29] <Saintly> lol and this time ittl be the RIGYHT way :D
[03:30] <charlie-tca> Every time I do it is a learning experience. I learn not to do the same thing again... execpt that day I reinstalled 5 times, and did the same thing each time.
[03:33] <Saintly> ROFL
[03:33] <Saintly> well i have to haul butt, im thinkin i might be able to do this tonight if i feel like it still :D
[03:33] <Saintly> im sure ill be back tomorrow :D
[03:33] <charlie-tca> Of course, I learned from it... Don't do the same thing each time if it breaks it again.
[03:34] <Saintly> :D
[03:34] <charlie-tca> Have fun :-)
[04:52] <snowrichard> hello
[04:54] <snowrichard> i installed xubuntu today on a HP Pavilion ZE4907WM laptop.  It had no internal hard drive so I used an external 320 GB usb  2 drive i had laying around.
[06:25] <no--name> ok so I installed xubuntu under windows using wubi and my internet connectivity was and still is fine under xp, internet connectivity was fine during the xubuntu install, fine when i rebooted into xubuntu, but since installing the latest drivers for my geforce 7600GS there is no internet connectivity (and the up/down icon in the panel is dim).
[06:26] <no--name> whenever i boot into xubuntu there is no internet connectivity, whenever i boot into xp it is fine
[06:26] <UBUxUBU> what version
[06:26] <no--name> 10.10
[06:26] <no--name> 32 bit
[06:27] <UBUxUBU> on this particuler computer i did wubi 1004
[06:28] <no--name> what graphics card do you have?
[06:28] <UBUxUBU> ati5870
[06:28] <UBUxUBU> and i an 64 bit
[06:28] <no--name> ok
[06:28] <UBUxUBU> wubi is weird to say the least
[06:28] <no--name> yeah maybe I should try 10.04
[06:28] <no--name> ok
[06:29] <UBUxUBU> one day...
[06:29] <no--name> have you experienced any problems yourself?
[06:29] <UBUxUBU> i did the updates...
[06:29] <UBUxUBU> and i couldnt boot inti ubuntu
[06:29] <no--name> :(
[06:29] <UBUxUBU> so i deleted wubi
[06:30] <UBUxUBU> and reinstalled it
[06:30] <UBUxUBU> wubi hould be renamed wacki
[06:30] <UBUxUBU> its good but its a li weird
[06:31] <UBUxUBU> lil*
[06:33] <UBUxUBU> wubi is cool. but dont store important files in it
[06:34] <no--name> heh
[06:35] <no--name> the only reason I used it is because the live CD refused to work with this computer
[06:35] <no--name> but perhaps I should have tried the install now option :/
[06:36] <UBUxUBU> i am good on true dual boot but i did wubi on this one cos its still under warranty
[06:36] <UBUxUBU> my true dual booter work fine
[06:36] <no--name> cool
[06:36] <no--name> I'll try a non-wubi then.
[06:37] <UBUxUBU> are u under warranty
[06:37] <no--name> no
[06:37] <no--name> this is a second hand computer
[06:37] <no--name> I don't think that would void your warranty though.
[06:37] <UBUxUBU> it may not
[06:38] <UBUxUBU> but i like wubi better in that one instance
[06:38] <UBUxUBU> do u wanna do a real dual boot
[06:38] <no--name> yea
[06:38] <wizardslovak> how do i install java ?
[06:38] <UBUxUBU> cool ...do u have another computer
[06:39] <wizardslovak> apt-get install sun-java6-jdk sun-java6-jre
[06:39] <no--name> nah
[06:39] <UBUxUBU> ok no--name
[06:39] <UBUxUBU> do u mind splitting the hard evenly no--name
[06:40] <no--name> I don't want to split it evenly but you don't have to do that.
[06:41] <UBUxUBU> no u dont just asked
[06:41] <no--name> ok
[06:41] <UBUxUBU> i know how to do it either way
[06:41] <no--name> me too :)
[06:41] <UBUxUBU> i have done 18 dual booters
[06:41] <UBUxUBU> hehe
[06:41] <UBUxUBU> so easy
[06:41] <no--name> lol
[06:41] <no--name> :)
[06:41] <UBUxUBU> i know
[06:42] <UBUxUBU> but wubi is ok
[06:42] <no--name> mmmm
[06:43] <Myrtti> ych
[06:44] <UBUxUBU> wubi gives ppl a taste of buntu
[06:44] <no--name> yea
[06:44] <UBUxUBU> eventually it ummmm......sQrews up
[06:44] <no--name> i've been using ubuntu for about 8 months
[06:44] <no--name> now
[06:45] <UBUxUBU> i got 3 mos out of wubi before i had to fix it
[06:45] <no--name> guess i better try a real dual boot then
[06:45] <Myrtti> sure, but it's not meant to be a permanent solution
[06:45] <Myrtti> it's mainly for demonstration purposes
[06:45] <UBUxUBU> yeah or dont use wubi to store important stuff
[06:45] <no--name> it seems bizarre that a graphics card driver would take away my internet connectivity
[06:46] <UBUxUBU> i doubt that happened but vid is the culprit for a lot of problems
[06:46] <UBUxUBU> even in windows
[06:46]  * no--name uninstalls wubi
[06:47] <no--name> hmm
[06:47] <no--name> do you get your space back after uninstalling wubi?
[06:47] <UBUxUBU> yes
[06:47] <UBUxUBU> the uninstaller is so good i could not find a trace of buntu in regedit afterwards
[06:48] <no--name> ok cool
[06:48] <no--name> should i restart ?
[06:48] <UBUxUBU> and i am good in regedit
[06:48] <UBUxUBU> yes restart
[06:48] <no--name> ok brb
[06:48] <UBUxUBU> ck regedit
[06:56] <raevol> is there an easy way to mount .mdf images in xubuntu? apparently normal ubuntu you can just right click them and choose mount
[06:59] <UBUxUBU> what os ru runnin no--name
[07:01] <UBUxUBU> the giu is much better and easier to understand in ubuntu
[07:02] <UBUxUBU> gui*
[07:03] <no--name> Windows XP.
[07:03] <no--name> I hate it.
[07:03] <no--name> But I need to run it for games :P
[07:03] <no--name> Yeah I've been using Ubuntu for about 8 months now.
[07:03] <no--name> But my good computer died so now I've downgraded :(
[07:04] <no--name> and this thing doesn't seem to like Live CDs
[07:04] <no--name> Gonna save up for something better though (eventually :/
[07:05] <UBUxUBU> hey i have lots of xp pro here its rock solid
[07:06] <UBUxUBU> my w7 has had 3 bsod in 7 mos
[07:06] <UBUxUBU> xp pro never any bsod
[07:06] <UBUxUBU> and xp pro loves typical dual booy ubuntu
[07:06] <UBUxUBU> boot*
[07:07] <no--name> interesting.
[07:07] <UBUxUBU> i stillthink xppro beats w7 home premium
[07:07] <no--name> I haven't used Windows 7 apart from the Release Candidate.
[07:07] <UBUxUBU> but i havent tried w7 pro
[07:08] <UBUxUBU> its nice
[07:08] <no--name> Yeah.
[07:08] <UBUxUBU> but xp pro is still the best
[07:08] <no--name> No, Linux is the best :p
[07:08] <UBUxUBU> i want ubuntu to become the best
[07:09] <UBUxUBU> but honestly it hasnt yet
[07:09] <no--name> Every OS seems to have it's advantages and disadvantages.
[07:09] <no--name> Except for Windows M.E. which only had disadvantages :P
[07:09] <UBUxUBU> that one was not good at all
[07:10] <UBUxUBU> w200 pro was awesome i stil use it
[07:10] <UBUxUBU> w2000 pro *
[07:10] <no--name> Yeah.
[07:11] <UBUxUBU> it just tooka long time to shut down
[07:12] <UBUxUBU> they are gonna ditch xp pro in 2014 but if u get a chance to run it in 32 bit u will see real stability
[07:13] <UBUxUBU> its the only real os i ever saw
[07:13] <UBUxUBU> i cant break it
[07:13] <UBUxUBU> its boring but i cant break it
[07:14] <UBUxUBU> but i like buntu lucid...every computer i have has lucid
[07:21] <no--name> ya
[07:21] <no--name> I'm gonna go play TF2 now, see ya :3
[08:29] <Animagladius> Merry Christmas everyone, btw.
[12:28] <infrid64> hi!
[12:46] <rethus> someone here use xfce with kde backend?
[12:51] <MorphixNW> hi
[12:52] <charlie-tca> rethus: Xfce and KDE are both desktop environments. They replace each other
[12:53] <rethus> i know, but xfce has the option to use Gnome or KDE backend-packages
[12:53] <rethus> you never seen this option
[12:53] <MorphixNW> you can have multiple DE installed, and you can select which one you want at logon
[12:56] <MorphixNW> I am still having problems with the "startup disk creator", I am yet to see it boot from the hard drive lol
[12:56] <MorphixNW> but I think the problem is the target machine and not the "startup disk creator"
[12:56] <MorphixNW> and so I am trying one more time, this time using a large USB Stick as oppose to a USB Hard Drive (USB Powered)
[12:56] <charlie-tca> try all the usb ports
[12:57] <MorphixNW> the machine is not powering the usb hard drive
[12:57] <MorphixNW> it did.... ONCE
[12:57] <MorphixNW> but I cant make it boot from it again
[12:58] <MorphixNW> I have a 4GB USB Stick that is currently being turned into a startup disk
[12:58] <MorphixNW> I think it will work fine from that
[12:59] <MorphixNW> does anyone know if it possible to turn a USB Stick into a Smart Card for secure log ons?
[13:09] <MorphixNW> is this channel always this quite during the day? (GMT London)
[13:10] <charlie-tca> yes
[13:10] <ptrc> Hello
[13:11] <charlie-tca> MorphixNW: most of IRC seems to run on Eastern Standard Time, UTC -5
[13:11] <charlie-tca> well, at least the ubuntu stuff
[13:12] <MorphixNW> hi ptrc
[13:12] <MorphixNW> their is more life in a grave yard lol
[13:13] <ptrc> I have a notebook : AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile technology TL-50 1.60GHz 895 Mo of RAM and a desktop pc : AMD Athlon XP 2600+ 2.08GHz, 1.50 Go of RAM
[13:13] <ptrc> does it make sens to install xubuntu on it? or should I rather put ubuntu? thanks
[13:13] <MorphixNW> I think either will run well :)
[13:15] <MorphixNW> personally I like xfce4
[13:15] <MorphixNW> !cluster
[13:15] <ptrc> ok and does the boot time change a lot between xubuntu and ubuntu? If yes maybe with xubuntu on a notebook, it is like having a tablet pc starting very fast...
[13:15] <charlie-tca> boot times should be about the same.
[13:16] <MorphixNW> same really, but both can be tweaked to decrease the boot time
[13:16] <ptrc> ok than you
[13:17] <charlie-tca> MorphixNW: I think I told you the wrong time zone. It seems to run on Pacific Standard Time, which is even worse, UTC -8
[13:17] <charlie-tca> I am mountain time, which is 6:17 AM here now
[13:17] <MorphixNW> tat explains it, as it 13:17 here right now
[13:18] <ptrc> I will first try the boot cd anyway because I am afraid my network card will not be recognized (it is really old like 12 years)
[13:18] <MorphixNW> ptrc are you using 10.10?
[13:18] <MorphixNW> 10.10 is much better at recognising hardware :)
[13:19] <ptrc> MorphixNW: I am a newbie, at this point I have seven on my notebook and XP on my desktop but tired of this so I will change both to (x)ubuntu
[13:19] <MorphixNW> my media-centre is 10.04 which I had much trouble getting setup, in the end I replaced the main board to make it all work, however, on this machine which is 10.10 I had no trouble with the board :)
[13:19] <ptrc> Ok I will go for 10.10 then, thanks for the trick
[13:19] <MorphixNW> ptrc: download the latest stable release (10.10)
[13:20] <MorphixNW> the odds that it will get most of your hardware if not all of it are much higher
[13:21] <MorphixNW> everything worked out of the box for me, well apart from my damn touchscreen
[13:21] <ptrc> ok :)
[13:21] <MorphixNW> where previously on 10.04 this very same board gave me hell
[13:23] <ptrc> I hope to be as successfull with 10.10 ;)
[13:23] <MorphixNW> :)
[13:39] <lips> Hey, short questions. I installed Xubuntu on my parents pc and want to make sure that there is always the nvidia kernel module for the recent kernel available
[13:39] <lips> Could I use dkms for that purpose
[13:41] <Sysi> the graphical driver installer does that automatically
[13:44] <lips> really? I didn't have a X Server when booting the newer kernel
[13:44] <Sysi> it should
[13:45] <ptrc> happyxmass to all, thank you MorphixNW  for your help, bye !
[13:45] <lips> perhaps because I installed it with apt-get
[13:45] <Sysi> try jockey-gtk
[13:46] <lips> will do Sysi
[13:47] <Sysi> nouveau is trustworthy too, with 2d
[13:47] <lips> yeah I know
[13:48] <lips> but it's a pretty old machine so i am trying to push it to its greatest performance :)
[13:49] <lips> thanks Sysi I need to restart now bye
[13:58] <MorphixNW> will Xubuntu work on a Compaq Proliant PL800 (2x500Mhz CPU, 1GB ECC SDRAM and 4xSCSI HDDS)?
[13:59] <charlie-tca> should
[13:59] <MorphixNW> out the box?
[14:00] <MorphixNW> I am thinking that it might get stuck with the SCSI Drive Array
[14:28] <ShootEmUp> morrning people
[14:42] <MorphixNW> hey ShootEmUp
[14:42] <ShootEmUp> hey, you fix your problems?
[14:42] <MorphixNW> errrrr....
[14:44] <ShootEmUp> I don't remember what problems you had
[14:45] <MorphixNW> trying to make a machine usb boot
[14:45] <ShootEmUp> thats right
[14:45] <ShootEmUp> did you ever do that
[14:45] <MorphixNW> it booted once, but now it just wont do it, not even with USB Stick
[14:45] <MorphixNW> nope :(
[14:46] <ShootEmUp> what else is on it, floppy, CDROM, anything?
[14:46] <MorphixNW> nope
[14:46] <ShootEmUp> give me a min, i'm going to google
[14:46] <MorphixNW> think it might be the machine thats the problrm
[14:47] <ShootEmUp> so no OS on it i guess
[14:47] <MorphixNW> no such luck
[14:48] <ShootEmUp> you wouldn't happen to have a spare floppy drive aroud?
[14:48] <MorphixNW> the machine has no floppy port
[14:49] <MorphixNW> think i am gonna test to see if the IDE Controller can handle 2 devices
[14:49] <ShootEmUp> they can
[14:49] <MorphixNW> not all
[14:49] <ShootEmUp> I'm doing it right now
[14:49] <ShootEmUp> most can
[14:49] <MorphixNW> most boards can/will/do
[14:49] <MorphixNW> but not always the case with these SFF
[14:50] <ShootEmUp> yeah thats true
[14:50] <MorphixNW> as they aint designed for that purpose
[14:50] <MorphixNW> but ill give it a whirl
[14:50] <ShootEmUp> thats all you can do
[14:50] <MorphixNW> however, I want the OS installed on a USB Stick, can that be done?
[14:50] <MorphixNW> so I can yank the stick and the machine is bare
[14:51] <ShootEmUp> yeah, but grub will have to be put on a bootable hard disk
[14:51] <MorphixNW> USB Stick acts the same
[14:51] <MorphixNW> if a USB Stick is the only media present, it should sort itself out right?
[14:51] <ShootEmUp> but if your BIOS can't boot USB, then it can't call grub
[14:52] <MorphixNW> it says it can
[14:52] <MorphixNW> and it did ONCE
[14:52] <ShootEmUp> thats what bothers me
[14:52] <MorphixNW> I am beginging to think that the "startup disk creator" could be the problem
[14:52] <ShootEmUp> yeah, might I recommend Unetbootin
[14:52] <MorphixNW> say what?
[14:53] <ShootEmUp> !info unetbootin
[14:54] <ShootEmUp> Its like startup disk creator, but I think its better
[14:54] <MorphixNW> sounds good
[14:54] <MorphixNW> is it in apt?
[14:54] <ShootEmUp> sudo apt-get install unetbootin
[14:54] <UBUxUBU> how can i make lucid 64 bit play hulu vids
[14:54] <MorphixNW> hulu?
[14:54] <UBUxUBU> i have installed restricted extras and flash
[14:54] <charlie-tca> !hulu
[14:55] <UBUxUBU> yes hulu videos
[14:55] <MorphixNW> do youtube vids play?
[14:55] <ShootEmUp> http://www.hulu.com/labs/hulu-desktop-linux
[14:55] <ShootEmUp> try that
[14:55] <UBUxUBU> yes utube plays
[14:55] <UBUxUBU> hulu labs tells me nuthun been there
[14:56] <ShootEmUp> go to this link http://www.hulu.com/labs/hulu-desktop-linux
[14:56] <UBUxUBU> link wont open
[14:56] <MorphixNW> worked fine for me
[14:57] <ShootEmUp> copy and paste into your browser
[14:57] <UBUxUBU> The page you were looking for doesn't exist (404 error)
[14:57] <ShootEmUp> heres directlink to the .deb, http://download.hulu.com/huludesktop_amd64.deb
[14:57] <UBUxUBU> thats the link
[14:58] <ShootEmUp> Ok, try a differant browser
[14:59] <UBUxUBU> i installed that already
[14:59] <UBUxUBU> that doesnt make thr vids play
[15:00] <UBUxUBU> what the heck is going on
[15:02] <MorphixNW> the ShootEmUp provided works fine for me
[15:02] <charlie-tca> UBUxUBU: what browser are you using?
[15:02] <UBUxUBU> ff
[15:02] <MorphixNW> if your getting 404 then something is wrong on your side
[15:02] <UBUxUBU> buntu 1004
[15:02] <UBUxUBU> i found it it was behind the page
[15:03] <charlie-tca> ubuntu or kubuntu?
[15:03] <UBUxUBU> but the link doesnt help
[15:03] <UBUxUBU> ubuntu
[15:03] <ShootEmUp> did you download the .deb, and then install it?
[15:03] <MorphixNW> can you play hulu vids from the hulu.com website?
[15:03] <UBUxUBU> yes as i told u it says i already installed
[15:04] <UBUxUBU> i cannot play hulu vids
[15:04] <UBUxUBU> unless i boot windows
[15:05] <MorphixNW> not even from there own website?
[15:05] <ShootEmUp> okay, one thing I read says you need 64bit flash
[15:05] <UBUxUBU> i know
[15:05] <ShootEmUp> odds are you don't have it
[15:05] <UBUxUBU> i got utube runnin
[15:05] <ShootEmUp> you might have 32bit flash
[15:06] <UBUxUBU> some say hulu wont run ubuntu 64
[15:06] <ShootEmUp> 64bit flash is in beta
[15:06] <UBUxUBU> hulu keeps saying i need latest flash
[15:06] <MorphixNW> hulu.com just told me that these plugins are required "Flash, SWFdec and gnash swf" do you have those plugins installed?
[15:07] <UBUxUBU> can i have those mixed with the flash i installed to play utube
[15:07] <MorphixNW> no, the site specifically asked for each one
[15:08] <UBUxUBU> will those mess up what i did to get utube running
[15:08] <MorphixNW> FF itself promoted and allowed me to install them fine
[15:08] <MorphixNW> no it shouldnt as they are different plugins
[15:09] <UBUxUBU> ok ill try to install all that
[15:09] <ShootEmUp> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins#64-bit%20Firefox%20and%2064-bit%20Flash%20plugin%20%28EXPERIMENTAL:%20more%20features%20and%20less%20stability%20%29
[15:09] <ShootEmUp> to get 64bit flash
[15:09] <ShootEmUp> but try MorphixNW's fix first
[15:09] <MorphixNW> also what version of flash player do you have? it requires 10.1.102.65
[15:11] <UBUxUBU> ok instlalled all of em
[15:12] <ShootEmUp> now try it
[15:12] <MorphixNW> and the version of flash you have installed is?
[15:12] <UBUxUBU> i installed the one that made utube work i dunno
[15:13] <ShootEmUp> the one atuomaticly call for by FF?
[15:13] <MorphixNW> ok I just did "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" which is version 10.1.102.65 as required so try that
[15:14] <ShootEmUp> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[15:14] <MorphixNW> thats the one hulu says it wants
[15:15] <MorphixNW> ubuxubu that has now worked for me, at first I gt the message you got, but after installing flashplugin-nonfree the videos will now play :)
[15:16] <MorphixNW> job done I think :)
[15:16] <ShootEmUp> !cookie | MorphixNW
[15:17] <MorphixNW> hahaha thank you Shootemup
[15:17] <ShootEmUp> your help has been welcomed
[15:17] <MorphixNW> i was able to fully replicate the issue, so it was easier :)
[15:19] <UBUxUBU> it ruined utube
[15:19] <ShootEmUp> crap
[15:19] <UBUxUBU> and it doesnt work on hulu
[15:19] <ShootEmUp> do you have newest updates?
[15:19] <UBUxUBU> i had just installed a huge script to make utube run
[15:19] <UBUxUBU> yes  all updates
[15:19] <ShootEmUp> if not update and upgrade
[15:20] <ShootEmUp> okay
[15:20] <UBUxUBU> how do i unwind the mess i just made
[15:20] <ShootEmUp> remove flash
[15:21] <ShootEmUp> sudo aptitude autoremove flashplugin-nonfree
[15:21] <UBUxUBU> what about that other junk
[15:21] <ShootEmUp> shouldn't have screwed anything up
[15:23] <MorphixNW> works for me
[15:23] <MorphixNW> I had the same error and youtube still works also
[15:24] <MorphixNW> I would use the command that Shootemup provided to clean your system, then follow my commands again
[15:24] <ShootEmUp> okay, thanks
[15:25] <MorphixNW> think maybe there are some anomalies in his system
[15:25] <MorphixNW> noticed he has left now so
[15:26] <ShootEmUp> yeah, alot of people have had problems with flash
[15:26] <MorphixNW> wierd
[15:26] <MorphixNW> all works for me on youtube and hulu now
[15:27] <ShootEmUp> yeah hulu is weird with ubuntu
[15:27] <MorphixNW> not for me :P
[15:27] <MorphixNW> I followed the prompts from the website and it just worked
[15:28] <MorphixNW> and didnt break youtube :)
[15:29] <ShootEmUp> yeah i think he did something wrong
[15:29] <MorphixNW> I think he has been fiddling around before he came here
[15:29] <MorphixNW> maybe installed a wrong version or something
[15:31] <ShootEmUp> most likey
[15:36] <ShootEmUp> well if gonna go now, get something to eat
[15:36] <ShootEmUp> ttyl
[15:36] <MorphixNW> just did that lol
[15:36] <MorphixNW> ttyl
[15:36] <MorphixNW> turkey sausages :)
[16:54] <ubuxubu> i fixed it
[16:54] <ubuxubu> now i can help others
[16:58] <ubuxubu> utube and hulu will run great in lucud 64 bit usung the beta adobe 64 bit
[16:58] <ubuxubu> i kept the link if ppl need it
[16:59] <ubuxubu> for the fix
[17:27] <UBuxuBU> welcome Ycarene
[17:27] <Ycarene> Hello
[17:29] <UBuxuBU> hows the weather in south sioux
[18:04] <MorphixNW> ok I have given up on the USB boot lol
[18:04] <MorphixNW> how can I easily change the hostname of my machine?
[18:11] <MorphixNW> editing "/etc/hosts" doesnt seem to be working
[18:12] <MorphixNW> !swap
[18:17] <ShootEmUp> hello everyone
[18:18] <charlie-tca> well, that was fun. power blinking
[18:18] <ShootEmUp> ?
[18:18] <MorphixNW> ?
[18:18] <MorphixNW> BOD?
[18:19] <charlie-tca> reset my computers completely with electricity off/on
[18:19] <MorphixNW> can anyone tell me if this command is valid? "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/4Gb.swap bs=1M count=4096"
[18:19] <ShootEmUp> nope
[18:19] <MorphixNW> how so?
[18:20] <charlie-tca> I try not to use dd, so, no, I can't.
[18:20] <ShootEmUp> /dev/zero is not a valid disk
[18:20] <MorphixNW> ahh
[18:20] <ShootEmUp> /mnt/4Gb.swap is not valid either
[18:20] <ShootEmUp> it should be /mnt/SOMETHING/4Gb.swap
[18:22] <MorphixNW> like "sudo dd if=/dev/sdb1 of=/mnt/4Gb.swap bs=1M count=4096"
[18:23] <ShootEmUp> you can't put things in the /mnt folder
[18:23] <MorphixNW> 4GB.swap is valid
[18:23] <MorphixNW> I created it :)
[18:23] <MorphixNW> is it normal for that command to take some time?
[18:24] <MorphixNW> considering I gave it 4096 count
[18:24] <ShootEmUp> /mnt/sda1/4GB.swap is valid
[18:24] <ShootEmUp> yes it takes awile
[18:24] <ShootEmUp> depends on the size of the partition
[18:25] <ShootEmUp> any reason your copying a partition?
[18:25] <MorphixNW> creating a swap file
[18:25] <ShootEmUp> unstead of a swap partition?
[18:26] <MorphixNW> I am following a guide, maybe not the best one lol
[18:27] <ShootEmUp> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#How do I add more swap?
[18:27] <ShootEmUp> short, sweet, and to the point
[18:28] <MorphixNW> thats the one I am using
[18:28] <ShootEmUp> I may start using a swap file, that swap partition is getting anoying
[18:29] <ShootEmUp> are you copying your sda1 drive?
[18:29] <MorphixNW> nope
[18:30] <MorphixNW> I deleted the swap partition
[18:30] <MorphixNW> reclaimed the drive space for my pics lol
[18:30] <MorphixNW> but now I want more speed
[18:30] <ShootEmUp> thats what I want to do
[18:30] <MorphixNW> so I am adding a 4gb swap file to go with the 1gb of RAM
[18:31] <MorphixNW> wow adding a swap file doesnt require a reboot :)
[18:31] <ShootEmUp> nope
[18:31] <ShootEmUp> sudo swapon /mnt/4GB.swap
[18:32] <MorphixNW> indeed
[18:32] <MorphixNW> I like the swappiness too
[18:32] <ShootEmUp> swap on, untill reboot
[18:32] <ShootEmUp> remember to edit your fstab
[18:32] <MorphixNW> I use devede so, I am hoping that swap will decrease the amount of time
[18:34] <ShootEmUp> devede? whats that?
[18:34] <MorphixNW> it turns avi files into iso images
[18:35] <ShootEmUp> DVDs? or just ISO
[18:35] <MorphixNW> I convert files from my digidvcam into iso images that I can easily make DVDs from
[18:35] <MorphixNW> but it takes a lot of time
[18:35] <MorphixNW> about 1hr 20mins for 1GB of AVI
[18:36] <ShootEmUp> stuff like that does
[18:36] <MorphixNW> so I am hoping that swap will decrease that time
[18:36] <ShootEmUp> maybe
[18:36] <MorphixNW> cant make it worse :)
[18:36] <ShootEmUp> nope
[18:37] <MorphixNW> ob btw, that stupid machine i was trying to usb boot....well its now installing from cdrom
[18:37] <ShootEmUp> you put a cdrom drive in?
[18:37] <MorphixNW> dangling off the side
[18:38] <ShootEmUp> lol
[18:38] <MorphixNW> it has no internal bays
[18:38] <ShootEmUp> yeah, I have my 2nd hard disk in a CDROM bay
[18:38] <MorphixNW> hey I dug out an Apricot LS Pro 486 100Mhz :P
[18:38] <ShootEmUp> 100MHz!
[18:38] <MorphixNW> yeah
[18:38] <ShootEmUp> wow thats fast
[18:39] <MorphixNW> ohhhh the speed is incredible
[18:39] <MorphixNW> it has 64mb of 30pin DIMM
[18:39] <MorphixNW> I remember it used to run Bin98 pretty well
[18:39] <ShootEmUp> ouch, xubuntu will not run on that
[18:39] <MorphixNW> i used to use as my surfing machine
[18:40] <ShootEmUp> I used to use Bin98 too
[18:40] <MorphixNW> onboard VGA and NIC (RJ45 and BNC) but no PCI Slots
[18:41] <MorphixNW> i would like to find a use for it, but I am hard pressed to think of what that might be
[18:41] <ShootEmUp> I got an idea
[18:41] <ShootEmUp> file and printer server!
[18:41] <MorphixNW> it would probably run SmoothWall, however, it only has one NIC and no space for another
[18:42] <MorphixNW> I dont really print much
[18:42] <charlie-tca> get a switch, you only one NIC per machine
[18:42] <ShootEmUp> just an idea
[18:42] <MorphixNW> smoothwall requires two nics
[18:43] <MorphixNW> probably stay sat there for another decade lol
[18:44] <ShootEmUp> probably
[18:44] <MorphixNW> I cant bring myself to bin it
[18:44] <MorphixNW> I might just the case
[18:44] <MorphixNW> make it hold a MINI-ATX
[18:45] <MorphixNW> I have a couple of Mini-ATX VIA400's
[18:45] <MorphixNW> 400Mhz Embedded with 2xSDRAM Slots
[18:45] <ShootEmUp> that will run a ubuntu sever install
[18:46] <ShootEmUp> if you want a server
[18:48] <ShootEmUp> just tried the swap file guide
[18:48] <MorphixNW> ok my swap is up and running (I think)
[18:48] <MorphixNW> me too lol
[18:49] <ShootEmUp> free -m will tell you how much swap you got
[18:49] <MorphixNW> swap: 4095
[18:49] <ShootEmUp> yup its working
[18:49] <MorphixNW> seems my mem is maxed
[18:50] <MorphixNW> Mem: 991 total, 975 used, 16 free
[18:50] <ShootEmUp> look where is says -/+ buffers
[18:50] <ShootEmUp> that tells you how much ram is really free
[18:50] <MorphixNW> 212 used, 779 free
[18:50] <MorphixNW> much better numbers :)
[18:50] <ShootEmUp> theres your answer
[18:50] <MorphixNW> now lets give it something to crunch on
[18:51] <ShootEmUp> linux uses all the ram all the time
[18:51] <ShootEmUp> for buffering and cacheing
[18:51] <ShootEmUp> but can be freed at anytime
[18:52] <MorphixNW> btw last night I install asterisk but I cant see it
[18:52] <ShootEmUp> okay, I don't know anything about it. sorry
[18:54] <ShootEmUp> wow, fluxbox WM is only 9MB
[18:56] <ShootEmUp> VLC media player is bigger
[18:57] <ShootEmUp> my name peggy, you have problem please
[18:58] <MorphixNW> hi peggy lol
[18:58] <ShootEmUp> from that credit card add
[18:59] <MorphixNW> i probably wont of seen that
[19:00] <ShootEmUp> :(
[19:00] <ShootEmUp> it some russian man pretending to be peggy
[19:01] <MorphixNW> who is peggy?
[19:01] <MorphixNW> peggy mitchel?
[19:01] <ShootEmUp> nope, he just says his name is peggy
[19:01] <ShootEmUp> youtube link in5
[19:01] <MorphixNW> ok :P
[19:02] <MorphixNW> how can I change swappiness?
[19:02] <ShootEmUp> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRLwKw9up3s
[19:03] <ShootEmUp> cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness to check it
[19:03] <ShootEmUp> gksudo gedit /etc/sysctl.conf
[19:03] <ShootEmUp> to edit it
[19:03] <MorphixNW> yeah, but how do I lower the value?
[19:04] <MorphixNW> it says "new file"
[19:04] <ShootEmUp> change gedit to mousepad for Xubnntu
[19:04] <MorphixNW> I use nano
[19:05] <ShootEmUp> I have mine open, but it doesn't say anything about swap
[19:06] <MorphixNW> swappiness
[19:06] <MorphixNW> it should have a value of 60
[19:07] <ShootEmUp> "Search for vm.swappiness and change its value as desired. If vm.swappiness does not exist, add it to the end of the file like so:"
[19:07] <MorphixNW> I got it now
[19:07] <MorphixNW> oh lol ok there ya go :)
[19:07] <ShootEmUp> vm.swappiness=10
[19:07] <ShootEmUp> or what ever
[19:09] <MorphixNW> changes made and system going down
[19:09] <ShootEmUp> me to
[19:14] <ShootEmUp> installing vbox GA
[19:14] <MorphixNW> ?
[19:14] <ShootEmUp> got xubuntu in Vbox, I run Ubuntu now
[19:15] <ShootEmUp> Xubuntu so I can boot up and test fixes
[19:17] <MorphixNW> can I chance the nice value from command line?
[19:17] <ShootEmUp> what do you mean?
[19:17] <MorphixNW> priority
[19:18] <ShootEmUp> change priority?
[19:18] <MorphixNW> yeah
[19:18] <MorphixNW> from command line
[19:18] <ShootEmUp> Idk
[19:19] <ShootEmUp> I guess so
[19:19] <NewbieOuan> hello
[19:19] <ShootEmUp> hey
[19:20] <NewbieOuan> Nice movie (shoot em up)
[19:20] <ShootEmUp> MorphixNW, http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/how-to-change-priority-of-a-process-in-ubuntu-linux/
[19:20] <NewbieOuan> can I ask a simple question?
[19:20] <ShootEmUp> shoot
[19:21] <NewbieOuan> lol :)
[19:21] <ShootEmUp> had to be done
[19:21]  * charlie-tca thought we only want hard quesstions
[19:21] <NewbieOuan> is xubuntu suitable for old PC's , or little notebooks with limited powers?
[19:21] <charlie-tca> or any other computer
[19:21] <ShootEmUp> either
[19:22] <ShootEmUp> or all
[19:22] <NewbieOuan> it has small requirements?
[19:22] <ShootEmUp> yes
[19:22] <NewbieOuan> I want to install it on a EeePc (with 1,2 GHz processor) and a laptop with pentium 4
[19:23] <ShootEmUp> should work perfectly
[19:23] <NewbieOuan> :) grazie ...obrega...efharisto...thanks
[19:23] <ShootEmUp> remember to come here if you need help
[19:24] <NewbieOuan> will do
[19:25] <MorphixNW> I think it will work just fine OTB
[19:26] <NewbieOuan> OTB?
[19:26] <MorphixNW> out the box
[19:26] <NewbieOuan> I guess I am what my name states
[19:26] <ShootEmUp> MorphixNW, I'm tring to kill my swap partition and just go with a swap file
[19:26] <MorphixNW> i used gparted to do it
[19:27] <ShootEmUp> I know, I just have to remove it from fstab
[19:27] <MorphixNW> wiped out the partition, then recreated it as ext2 with a mount point in my home dir
[19:27] <MorphixNW> then add it to fstab
[19:27] <MorphixNW> just remove the swap line or comment it out
[19:27] <MorphixNW> but also you will need to add the new drive in fstab
[19:28] <MorphixNW> I recovered 3GB :P
[19:28] <MorphixNW> which stores my pics nicely
[19:28] <ShootEmUp> I know, I'm killing swap, then using the live CD to extened my / partition
[19:28] <MorphixNW> I suppose you could also expand one of the other partitions to use up the space
[19:28] <MorphixNW> :)
[19:30] <MorphixNW> hate to say but Bindows from Blista onwards has been able to do that without a reboot
[19:30] <ShootEmUp> I know, I have vista dual-boot
[19:30] <MorphixNW> I think even 2K3 Server could too
[19:30] <MorphixNW> btw 2K3 is my fav OS of all time
[19:31] <MorphixNW> certainly a credit to MS for once
[19:31] <MorphixNW> I have a Bin2K3 web server that has ran for 3yrs without a hitch
[19:31] <ShootEmUp> Bin98 is my fav
[19:31] <MorphixNW> on old solid Compaq Hardware mind
[19:32] <ShootEmUp> yup
[19:32] <MorphixNW> I love Compaq hardware its bomb proof
[19:32] <MorphixNW> I have 2xPL800's
[19:32] <MorphixNW> 1xPL3000 (monster big but dog slow)
[19:32] <MorphixNW> and 1xDell PowerEdge 1850
[19:33] <ShootEmUp> I got an old HP, it rab good when I used it
[19:33] <MorphixNW> I had the Dell running CentOS
[19:34] <MorphixNW> it has 2x600Mhz and 1GB of RAM ECC (4x256)
[19:35] <MorphixNW> I litterally have enough hardware to build a data-centre in my attic :)
[19:36] <MorphixNW> years ago I would of had every single working machine up running and doing something (probably pointlessly) :)
[19:37] <MorphixNW> I found a hard drive that when plugged in booted up a working installation of Mandrake 9.2 that reported the last login data as 2004
[19:37] <ShootEmUp> lol
[19:37] <MorphixNW> I was impressed to see it boot :)
[19:38] <ShootEmUp> alright, back up to xubuntu, safe and sound
[19:38] <MorphixNW> :)
[19:38] <ShootEmUp> no swap partition any more
[19:38] <MorphixNW> awesome
[19:39] <MorphixNW> man this installation is dog slow
[19:39] <MorphixNW> took it forever on this one too tho
[19:39] <ShootEmUp> 1023MB swap (1GB swap file)
[19:39] <MorphixNW> maybe its because I am LVM Encryption?
[19:40] <ShootEmUp> most likely
[19:41] <MorphixNW> howcome pulseaudio uses so much CPU?
[19:41] <MorphixNW> it sets itself to -11
[19:42] <MorphixNW> manually lowering it to normal doesnt seem to affect it working, so why does tit automatically run so high?
[19:44] <ShootEmUp> I'm not sure
[19:45] <ShootEmUp> mine isn't runing that high
[19:46] <MorphixNW> can it be altered?
[19:46] <ShootEmUp> I'm not quite sure, time to google
[19:48] <ShootEmUp> one thing, try adding yourself to the group pulse-rt
[19:48] <ShootEmUp> some say that helps
[19:50] <ShootEmUp> how much cpu is it using right now
[19:54] <ShootEmUp> you still there MorphixNW?
[19:56] <ShootEmUp> guess not
[20:06] <ShootEmUp> gparted live cd only uses 40MB of RAM
[20:20] <ShootEmUp> gotta go now, ttyl everyone!
[20:56] <cinmoon> i have installed ubuntu-desktop but do not have the option to use gnome on the login screen (meekrat)
[20:58] <charlie-tca> Did you install Xubuntu?
[20:58] <knome> merry christmas everybody :)
[20:58] <charlie-tca> Merry Christmas, knome
[20:59] <charlie-tca> Are you having a good holiday time?
[20:59] <charlie-tca> cinmoon: Did you install Xubuntu?
[21:00] <cinmoon> yes, also tried unity, there is a xubuntu option but it just hangs on the desktop background ctrl+alt+del to bringup the shutdown menu is all that I could get working. I'm currently in a mythbuntu/xubuntu session, which works after closing the mythtv front end
[21:00] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu does not use gnome, and it also doesn't use unity
[21:01] <cinmoon> the point is, none of the desktops are working, including straight xubuntu
[21:01] <knome> charlie-tca, no complaining. read a good book, having a beer and listening to good music. though i would rather be home than here at my mum's, since i'm a bit sick
[21:01] <knome> charlie-tca, and you?
[21:01] <charlie-tca> Sounds like something wrong with the install. If you have unity, mythbuntu, etc, all in there
[21:02] <charlie-tca> Sorry to hear you are sick. Hope you get better fast.
[21:02] <charlie-tca> Will have a nice day, I think.
[21:03] <knome> charlie-tca, ah yes, timezones... :)
[21:03] <charlie-tca> yeah!
[21:03]  * charlie-tca also doesn't really like christmas much
[21:03] <vinnl> Ugh, my holiday isn't until 0:00 tonight... But happy holidays everybody :)
[21:03] <charlie-tca> Merry Christmas, vinnl
[21:03] <knome> vinnl, have a nice christmas you too :)
[21:06] <charlie-tca> Mine is still 10 hours away, but Australia is 8:00am Christmas Day!
[21:07] <knome> we're less than hour to midnight as well
[21:09] <vinnl> Two hours for me
[21:10] <knome> :)
[21:20] <ShootEmUp> I'm backk!
[21:21] <knome> welcome back
[21:22] <ShootEmUp> It's good to be back
[21:29] <ShootEmUp> soooo... any problems to solve?
[22:37] <ShootEmUp> I'm back! again
[22:44] <Krakish>  Hi i want to make ubuntu router for home my network isinternet(pppoe)>ubuntu router with nat>home network would you be sookind to give me some tips and guides
[23:44] <saintly> hey hey ppl
[23:44] <vinnl> !hi
[23:45] <saintly> alirght, workin on a fresh install, and im configuring Xorg, in order to create a xor.conf file.. unfurtunately, it wont detect my mouse correctly.. any way i can fix that?
[23:47] <saintly> where it would state the mouses driver, it simply says mouse.. thats lovley thank you linux dev :D
[23:48] <saintly> any ideas folks?
[23:48] <vinnl> !mouse
[23:49] <vinnl> Nope :S
[23:49] <saintly> already tried there. im know theres a code that tells you what your drivers are... lspci?
[23:50] <vinnl> I believe that lists what hardware you have in PCI slots. Or something like that...
[23:50] <saintly> lsmouse? lol
[23:51] <saintly> !drivers
[23:51] <Sysi> lspci -k
[23:52] <saintly> well now i cant see my mouse.. oops too much downloads in the software manager
[23:52] <saintly> thatll tell me sysi?
[23:52] <Sysi> it shows kernel modulest that your HW uses
[23:53] <saintly> well as soon as i find my cursor ill try it.
[23:55] <saintly> happy christmas eve by the way, everyone