[00:00] <alex_mayorga> for the record, this faulty one is a Toshiba MK3263GSX 320GB on a Sony VAIO VPCCW
[00:01] <alex_mayorga> sadly all the troubleshoot tools from Toshiba are win32 or dos :(
[00:02] <Volkodav> What does Disk Utility says ?
[00:03] <penguin42> or from the command line smartctl -a
[00:03] <alex_mayorga> Volkodav: "Disk has a few bad sectors" 1244 according to it
[00:04] <penguin42> 1244 is NOT a few!
[00:04] <penguin42> 1 or 2 is a few
[00:04] <alex_mayorga> penguin42: feel free to bug them :)
[00:04] <Volkodav> yeah it is a mass corruption
[00:05] <alex_mayorga> I believe it has been like that for a year or so
[00:05] <alex_mayorga> it stills shows a green "LED" next to the message as well
[00:06] <penguin42> alex_mayorga: You'd have to be lucky for it to stick like that but hey if it does, then you could try badblocks, although I'd expect the drive to remap the sectors if written to
[00:06] <alex_mayorga> I'm running the extended test on it as of now, but it would take quite some time I believe
[00:07] <alex_mayorga> penguin42: yup! I know, I guess I'll just continue playing death roulette with it for now, no cash :(
[00:07] <alex_mayorga> thanks guys on the ideas
[01:07] <penguin42> woah, was about to give that up as a failed upgrade, but then it finally started
[02:51] <bjsnider> is gftp still the best ftp choice for gnome?
[03:03] <yofel> bjsnider: why not use filezilla?
[03:04] <yofel> that's my preference at least
[03:14] <mork1> hi everyone, i have some question. i use natty ubuntu. my X usually crash in the middle run. what happen? how can i solve this?
[03:16] <bjsnider> yofel, i would rather have the app integrated into gnome in some meaningful way
[03:16] <yofel> define integrated..
[03:20] <magn3ts> Anyone else have connman sitting in a perpetual state of needing to be upgraded? Any chance the PPAs for NetworkManager-app indicator changed?
[03:54] <bjsnider> yofel, integrated in the same way that empathy is integrated
[06:00] <lamalex> Is anyone using the proprietary nvidia driver?
[06:00] <lamalex> I can't get proper resolution or 3d
[06:01] <lamalex> all I can get is 800x600
[06:13] <lamalex> hmm maybe nvidia isn't really being loaded as glxinfo does not show anything good
[06:40] <adnap> hello, i just downloaded the latest 64-bit ubuntu ("about ubuntu" says it's 11.04) and have downloaded and enabled the broadcom wireless sta driver.  however, i still don't have a wireless interface and am unable to click "enable wirless" on the toolbar.  can anyone help with this issue?
[06:59] <prabhu> how to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04
[07:01] <EvilPhoenix> prabhu:  you cant until its released to stable afaik
[07:03] <rigved> prabhu: use zsync to download the alpha release of 11.04. it's available on the website
[07:11] <prabhu> yeah i downloaded it
[07:11] <prabhu> but i want to upgrade it to 11.04 without loss of any data
[07:11] <prabhu> i am curently using 10.10
[07:12] <jfi> prabhu, update-manager -d
[07:12] <prabhu> i have the image already
[07:13] <UndiFineD> prabhu, "without loss of any data" are you sure you want to run an unstable pre-release for your data ?
[07:14] <prabhu> yup
[07:14] <UndiFineD> just checking :)
[07:14] <prabhu> i have some movies
[07:14] <prabhu> so i dont want to waste time in transferring those datas
[07:16] <UndiFineD> burn the cd / write the stick and install it then, be sure to do partitions manually and not to format a /home or your datas partition
[07:16] <jfi> prabhu, you should consider install it in a VM or aside maverick, upgrading to an alpha 4 months before the release is a high risk
[07:17] <prabhu> hmmmm so its better not to do?
[07:18] <jfi> well, you can install it to try it, but you should keep your maverick install to be sure to always have a working ubuntu
[07:19] <jfi> at anytime, natty can break and even not booting after a daily update
[07:19] <prabhu> hmmm
[07:20] <prabhu> so just for a learning process ,pls tell me how to upgrade if i have an ubuntu<version>.iso image
[07:20] <UndiFineD> we just did
[07:21] <jfi> prabhu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades read the section "Upgrading Using the Alternate CD/DVD"
[07:22] <prabhu> yeah i did that
[07:22] <prabhu> its not working
[07:22] <prabhu> gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"
[07:22] <prabhu> this code right?
[07:23] <prabhu> after mounting?
[07:23] <prabhu> i did it
[07:23] <jfi> if you have burned the cd, yes
[07:23] <prabhu> njo i just mounted
[07:23] <prabhu> *no
[07:23] <jfi> note that is the ALTERNATE cd
[07:23] <prabhu> so what shud i do?
[09:11] <om26er> in natty i have to manually start gdm from a tty. before that there is only black screen
[09:11] <om26er> *fully updated
[10:46] <speedvin> Hello!
[10:47] <speedvin> After yesterday update of kernel (2.6.37.11) I got kernel panic...
[10:47] <speedvin> Does someone got same situation?
[13:03] <knittl> hm. sudo ppa-purge xorg-edgers
[13:03] <knittl> warning: c ould not find package list for ppa: xorg-edgers ppa
[13:04] <knittl> xorg-edgers page on launchpad says i should use this command
[13:04] <bazhang> knittl, is ppa-purge installed
[13:04] <knittl> bazhang: yes
[13:07] <knittl> otherwise the error would be: ppa-purge not found, and can be installed via following packages
[13:07] <knittl> or something liket hat
[13:07] <knittl> * like that
[13:07] <bazhang> knittl, got a link to the ppa page?
[13:07] <knittl> https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[13:08] <knittl> line from sources.list is: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/xorg-edgers/ppa/ubuntu maverick main
[13:08] <penguin42> knittl: I think in the end I used ppa-purge ppa:ubuntu-x-swat or something like that
[13:08] <bazhang> sudo ppa-purge xorg-edgers
[13:09] <knittl> bazhang: no, that's what i tried
[13:09] <bazhang> odd that the exact command given there would error out
[13:09] <knittl> penguin42: no luck either :(
[13:09] <penguin42> knittl: Have a dig around in your /etc/apt/sources.list.d to see what extra things you have from them
[13:09] <knittl> penguin42: only the line i pasted before
[13:09] <penguin42> I've got an ubuntu-x-swat-x-updates-maverick.list and I think it was ppa-purge ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates maybe ?
[13:10] <penguin42> knittl: Oh ok
[13:11] <knittl> i got: albertomilone-proprietary-video-improvements-lucid.list (maybe?), bzr-beta, bzr-ppa, clayt055, inkscape-nightly, johannes-reinhardt, lucid-partner, murrine-daily, tobydox-ultrastardx, ubuntu-mozilla-daily, wvengen, xorg-edgers
[13:12] <knittl> ok, the first file is empty
[13:12] <knittl> or wait. do i have to have the ppa active at that time?
[13:13] <knittl> yep, that was it :-$
[13:28] <speedvin> Have someone tested newest kernel in natty?
[13:47] <penguin42> speedvin: My desktop is on 2.6.37-11 #25
[13:47] <speedvin> penguin42: no problems?
[13:47] <speedvin> penguin42: I got kernel panic ;)
[13:47] <penguin42> speedvin: I have an odd boot problem where it stays as a black screen until a long time into the boot and then eventually gets OK
[13:48] <penguin42> speedvin: Do you have a copy of the panic?
[13:48] <speedvin> penguin42: no...
[13:48] <speedvin> penguin42: I get only debbuger ;)
[13:48] <penguin42> speedvin: Got a camera ?
[13:48] <speedvin> penguin42: no :(
[13:48] <penguin42> oh :-(
[13:49] <speedvin> penguin42: I think It's have something to do with ACPI :(
[13:49] <speedvin> penguin42: BTW. Have you GIMP?
[13:50] <penguin42> speedvin: Lots of ACPI stuff causes problems, if you can get a picture then we might be able to see if it's similar to something else
[13:50] <penguin42> yep, got the Gimp
[13:50] <speedvin> penguin42: right
[13:50] <speedvin> penguin42: It's working fine there?
[13:50] <penguin42> speedvin: Just tried it, seems to start up OK
[13:50] <speedvin> penguin42: I got segfault and no other info :(
[13:51] <penguin42> you could try and get a back trace
[13:52] <speedvin> penguin42: I got Only Segfault and nothing more....
[13:52] <speedvin> penguin42: when I try to run it in verbose mode I get Segfault again :(
[13:53] <penguin42> speedvin: Does it leave a file in /var/crash?
[13:53] <speedvin> penguin42: no...
[13:56] <penguin42> hmm
[13:56] <speedvin> penguin42: ohh.. I see os-prober in updates maybe it will solve my problem with newest kernel....
[13:56] <penguin42> speedvin: In your /etc/default/apport is it enabled or not ?
[13:57] <speedvin> penguin42: no...
[13:58] <penguin42> speedvin: If you enable it and do what it says then when something segs it will dump a log into /var/crash and you can pick it appart with the apport tools
[13:59] <speedvin> penguin42: core dump :)
[14:00] <speedvin> penguin42: maybe I can paste it somewere and you can read the log?
[14:03] <speedvin> Yes...
[14:03] <speedvin> I know what is the problem with gimp
[14:03] <penguin42> yes if you can get it to a pastebin I'm happy to read it
[14:03] <speedvin> It's my gtk engine (gtk-oxygen)
[14:04] <speedvin> [Solved]
[14:05] <penguin42> ah that's always been a bit touchy, but still, it's a bug
[14:05] <speedvin> penguin42: Ok can you report this problem with gimp to the dev's ?
[14:06] <penguin42> speedvin: No, you can!
[14:06] <speedvin> penguin42: Where to register?
[14:06] <penguin42> bugs.launchpad.net, and you can just run ubuntu-bug on your machine to submit a bug
[14:07] <speedvin> penguin42: what is the name of the package ?
[14:07] <penguin42> gimp !
[14:07] <speedvin> penguin42: I mean for ubuntu-bug
[14:07] <penguin42> speedvin: But make it clear in the report it only happens with gtk-oxygen
[14:08] <speedvin> penguin42: right...
[14:14] <penguin42> has anyone else noticed in natty that you can't just hit return at gdm to select the highlighted user? I've reported it as bug 694227
[14:41] <mt1mma> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule  February 17th, mistyped as Ubuntu 10.04.2, somebody please correct it.
[14:42] <mt1mma> It says, "Please do not edit"
[14:43] <mt1mma> How do I correct it?
[14:45] <yofel> mt1mma: why is that mistyped?
[14:46] <IdleOne> mt1mma: what should it be?
[14:46] <mt1mma> It should be Ubuntu 11.04.02
[14:46] <yofel> mt1mma: no, it shouldn't
[14:46] <IdleOne> umm no
[14:46] <yofel> mt1mma: that's the date for lucid .2 release
[14:46] <mt1mma> What is the reason?
[14:46] <IdleOne> 10.04.2 is a point release
[14:47] <penguin42> mt1mma: Don't confuse the alpha or beta of 11.04 with update's of 10.04
[14:47] <IdleOne> it is supposed to be like that :)
[14:47] <yofel> LTS releases get regular point releases so the installation images are updated
[14:47] <penguin42> although I can see it being a little confusing having it on the Natty Release schedule
[14:48] <IdleOne> penguin42: agreed
[14:48] <mt1mma> I thought it was my first contribution to the Ubuntu community, :-(
[14:49] <vish> mt1mma: no worries.. there are several other wiki you can correct ;)
[14:49] <IdleOne> mt1mma: it was, you noticed something and thought it was wrong and reported it. Thank you.
[14:49] <mt1mma> :-)
[14:50] <vish> oh great! i got unity working on VirtualBox4 and now i borked the settings.. :/
[14:50] <IdleOne> ha
[14:51] <vish> ccsm is evil ;p
[19:47]  * penguin42 wonders why natty is blatantly ignoring my choice of chromium as default browser
[19:49] <speedvin> penguin42: hmm
[19:50] <speedvin> penguin42: I think chromium will be bloat at some time....
[19:51]  * penguin42 is happy with it mostly, but still, it would be nice if the rest of gnome didn't ignore it - maverick was OK with it, and the Preferred application is still showing it
[19:56] <bjsnider> penguin42, it's a surreptitious deal between mozilla and canonical
[19:57] <penguin42> bah!
[19:57] <bjsnider> they're coming for all of your personal data next
[19:58]  * penguin42 assumed they had that anyway
[19:58] <bjsnider> they even know the length of your fingernails
[19:59] <bjsnider> it's all for the miracle of targeted advertising
[20:51] <knittl> grml, had a kernel panic during system upgrade to natty
[20:51] <knittl> i ran dpkg --configure -a now
[20:51] <penguin42> messy
[20:51] <knittl> what's next? aptitude dist-upgrade?
[20:51] <knittl> wants to remove lots of packages, such as byobu
[20:51] <penguin42> knittl: How long had it been going for?
[20:52] <knittl> penguin42: it crashed during the last 5 minutes
[20:53] <penguin42> knittl: Hmm, it's probably going to take a bit of hand fixing, but I'd do an apt-get dist-upgrade and hope it sorts itself out followed by an apt-get install ubuntu-desktop at the end before rebooting
[20:53] <knittl> penguin42: ok, so apt-get instead of aptitude?
[20:53] <penguin42> knittl: That's just what I'm more used to
[20:53] <knittl> ok, apt-get tells me: held back: glade
[20:54] <penguin42> wouldn't worry about that
[20:54] <knittl> but aptitude wants to remove packages
[20:54] <knittl> hm no
[20:54] <knittl> now it doesn't
[20:54] <knittl> WEIRD
[20:55] <knittl> only libglade-something-9:remove and libglade-something-10:install
[20:55] <knittl> looks good
[20:55] <penguin42> just make sure ubuntu-desktop is in at the end and you have a fair chance, chances are that there are some damaged files - typically 0 length in a few places
[20:55] <knittl> hm, k
[20:55] <knittl> my X won't start though
[20:55] <knittl> new incompatible ABI with nvidia-173?
[20:55] <penguin42> don't know, I don't do Nvidia
[20:56] <knittl> should i try nouveau? i had problems in the past, that nouveau did not wake up from sleep mode
[20:56] <knittl> ok, i'll just try nouveau, after i try once more with nvidia
[20:56] <knittl> maybe some packages weren't configured completely
[21:02] <penguin42> yeh it wouldn't surprise me after a crash like that, you might have to kick a few packages
[21:03] <knittl> hm, still no X, but high resolution in ttys
[21:03] <knittl> resolution like nouveau, font like nvidia
[21:03] <knittl> i have to investigate :]
[21:06] <knittl> how can i found out which graphics driver is in use?
[21:07] <knittl> i usually run lsmod | grep nvidia|nouveau
[21:07] <yofel> check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:07] <yofel> that'll either have NOUVEAU or NVIDIA lines
[21:07] <knittl> yofel: good point!
[21:08] <knittl> nvidia 173 something
[21:08] <knittl> but then: (EE) failed to load kernel module
[21:08] <knittl> need to install nouveau then
[21:08] <yofel> knittl: no
[21:08] <knittl> should have waited with the upgrade :D
[21:08] <knittl> yofel: no?
[21:09] <yofel> sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf{,.bak}
[21:09] <knittl> ah. ok
[21:09] <knittl> might have a problem with my dualscreen configuration
[21:12] <knittl> wheeee, looks good
[21:12] <yofel> and to make sure you don't have any broken files, running 'sudo debsums -s' might be good
[21:12] <knittl> debsums? what does that do?
[21:13] <yofel> check file checksums of files installed by dpkg (md5sum)
[21:13] <knittl> k, cool :)
[21:13] <knittl> hm. you don't have 3d
[21:13] <yofel> a few packaged don't have md5sums, ignore those
[21:14] <yofel> knittl: afaik you need to install libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental for nouveau 3D
[21:14] <knittl> is it nouveau now?
[21:14] <knittl> debsums not found. do i have to install it first?
[21:14] <yofel> without xorg.conf it should be nouveau
[21:14] <yofel> yes
[21:15] <knittl> yep, it's nouveau now
[21:16] <knittl> yofel: libgl1 is already installed
[21:17] <yofel> then your card might not be supported
[21:18] <knittl> hm, ok
[21:25] <knittl> how can i tell firefox to import settings from firefox-4 beta 9?
[21:25] <knittl> i think i selected 'ask later' but it's not asking
[21:25] <knittl> ok, and there are a few (ehem) changed and missing files in the debsums list
[21:33] <knittl> yofel: what should i do about the mismatched/missing files? apt-get install --reinstall?
[21:33] <knittl> it's 2 packages
[21:35] <knittl> libnspr4-dev and libfontconfig1-dev
[21:52] <yofel> reinstall should do it
[23:14] <lenios> !paste
[23:14] <lenios> !pastebinit