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sogeppyeah..00:20
sogeppmorning lads :)00:20
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UndiFineD:)00:22
flourishing7Hi, using ubuntu 1010 - I have update keyring problem:00:31
ubot2Ubuntu bug 1010 in drivel (Ubuntu) "out-of-date (heat: 1)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101000:31
flourishing7GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com maverick Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 16126D3A3E5C1192 Ubuntu Extras Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>00:31
flourishing7W: Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/Release00:31
flourishing7I have used many commands from the forums & guides such as:00:31
flourishing7gpg –keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com –recv 3E5C119200:31
flourishing7gpg –export –armor 3E5C1192 | sudo apt-key add -00:31
flourishing7sudo apt-get update00:31
flourishing7from http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-gpg-error-httpextras-ubuntu-com-maverick-release.html00:31
flourishing7and other commands such as:00:31
flourishing7sudo gpg –keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com –recv 02FDF93200:31
flourishing7sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 02FDF93200:31
flourishing7Nothing has worked, In the meantime, using these commands I seem to have added a few extra keys to my software sources authentication tab such as dropox automatic signing key (linux@dropbox.com); Launchpad application review board PPA; Launchpad PPA for Ubuntu Mozilla Daily Build Team; Google, Inc. Linux packages singing key (linux-packages-keymaster@google.com)00:32
flourishing7How can I resolve this?00:32
kristian-aalborgokay, so got the alsa numbers to correspond01:02
kristian-aalborgbioterror: you there?01:02
bioterrorfor a while01:03
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RNailsoo, anyone available to help03:49
holstein....03:51
aveilleuxCalvin: What OS are you booting, the Ubuntu LiveCD?04:48
CalvinI downloaded the ubuntu desktop 10.1004:48
aveilleuxCalvin: You can take the iso you downloaded and use Disk Utility to apply its image to the USB drive04:49
aveilleuxCalvin: Alternately, if you're feeling adventurous, you can use a Terminal utility called dd04:49
CalvinYeah I used the terminal. I didn't have any problems doing that but when I restart I hold the alt key to boot from it and osx only see the internal drive04:50
CalvinI followed the steps on this page http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download and everything go's great until the last step04:51
aveilleuxCalvin: You used something like: dd ubuntu.iso /Volumes/USB  correct?04:52
CalvinI used dd if=/path/to/downloaded.img of=/dev/rdiskN bs=1m04:52
aveilleuxCalvin: Er, that.04:52
aveilleuxdd's synatx always gets me04:52
CalvinIts all beyond me thats why I want to install linux. I want to learn04:53
aveilleuxCalvin: Is there a particular reason you're making a LiveUSB instead of a LiveCD?04:54
aveilleuxCalvin: (sidenote: I just finished installing Ubuntu on my Mac Mini 3,1 literally 20 minutes ago04:54
aveilleux)04:54
CalvinI tried doing that. I can't get my mac to see the disk. I can boot from my install disk no problem but it won't see the linux disk04:55
aveilleuxCalvin: Recognizing the Ubuntu CD takes much longer than the OSX install disc. How long did you wait for the disc to be read? It took upwards of ten seconds for me (and was labeled "Windows)04:57
Calvinalso It say I need a disk with 8 point some odd GB and I dont have any dual layered disks. I tried using the netbook version and it just boots in to osx.04:59
CalvinWill holding alt down work with a dvd? or is it only holding down c that works with that?04:59
aveilleuxCalvin: You only need the install DVD if you need the language packs. You don't need the DVD 99% of the time.05:01
CalvinSo what do I off of the ISO?05:01
aveilleuxCalvin: Verbs missing05:02
Calvinwhat?05:02
aveilleuxCalvin: "So what do I <VERB> off of the ISO?"05:02
Calvincopy srry. but the question still stands05:03
aveilleuxCalvin: Nothing. Just download the LiveCD ISO, not the DVD.05:03
CalvinWhere can I find that. I downloaded what ever was linked to off of the main page on ubuntu.com05:05
aveilleuxCalvin: That would be the LiveCD.05:05
aveilleuxCalvin: I'd love to stay and help, but I really need to get to bed.05:05
aveilleuxCalvin: Sorry :(05:05
CalvinDo you have a link before you leave?05:06
aveilleuxCalvin: http://mirrors.xmission.com/ubuntu-cd/10.04/ Grab the "Desktop CD" (If your computer has a Core 2 CPU, use the AMD64 image; if it's a Core CPU, use the Intel x86 image)05:07
UndiFineDhey Calvin05:07
UndiFineDreading up05:08
CalvinsoI tried the net book version of ubuntu and I stil couldn't get my mac to see the disk by holding down the c key on a reboot05:11
UndiFineDI know nothing of mac05:11
Calvinthank anyway05:12
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surajanybody can help me with installation of nvidia driveers09:01
suraj????09:01
surajanybody der09:02
suraj?????????09:02
hobgoblinwhat have you done so far? what card is it ? what version ubuntu is it?09:02
hobgoblinand don't be impatient - we are not sitting arounf waiting for people to call09:02
surajim using ubuntu 10.4 LTS09:03
surajmy nvidia chipset is nforce mix integrated graphics09:03
suraji have installed the drivers recommemded by ubuntu...but my ubuntu desktop crashed09:04
suraji also downloaded the drivers from nvidia site....my ubuntu desktop crashed wen it restarted n it opened in commands mode09:05
surajthats it09:06
hobgoblinaaah - I'd start by booting the recovery mode - second option in the grub menu - if you do not see the menu - Shift as grub loads09:06
suraji tried...but it didnt help09:06
hobgoblinthen you'll get another small menu - there's a fix grpahics option I believe - if that does not help then drop to a root shell and do this - write it down and case is important09:07
hobgoblinmv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.251209:07
hobgoblinthen type reboot and enter09:08
surajwen i reboot i got safe graphics option09:08
hobgoblinsee if that gets you into the system with the deafult driver09:09
surajk i'll do dat...thnks for help09:09
hobgoblinhi nit-wit09:22
hobgoblinquick hello and then I'm off09:22
nit-withobgoblin, merry noliday's09:22
nit-wit*Holiday's09:22
hobgoblinand you :)09:23
hobgoblincya09:23
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alvin1Can someone explain to me how I unpack a tarball?11:46
yofeljust unpacking would be 'tar xf <file>'11:48
duanedesignalvin1: in Nautilus you can also right-click and select extract here.11:52
alvin1why then do instructions on tar files direct me the terminal?11:53
geirhaWhat instructions?11:54
alvin1These are the instructions I have been given : 1. Download Exile III for Linux by clicking on the download link                above. When your browser asks what you wish to do with the file,                choose "Save to Disk." Save the file under the following                name: exile3-linux-1.tar.gz11:54
alvin1              11:54
alvin1              2. At the Linux shell prompt, type the following command: gunzip                exile3-linux-1.tar.gz11:54
alvin1              11:54
alvin1              3. Next, type the following command: tar -xf exile3-linux-1.tar11:54
alvin1              11:54
alvin1              4. Change to the newly created subdirectory: cd exile3-linux-111:54
alvin1              11:54
alvin1              5. Run the Exile III for Linux setup program by entering this command:                ./setup11:54
duanedesignmost authors are either CLI or GUI folks.11:54
alvin1wow that wasn't meant to happen...sorry11:54
duanedesigndepending on which the instructions can differ11:55
geirhaalvin1: Some run linux without a GUI, so CLI commands will work for all.11:55
duanedesignit can also be easier to write instructions for the CLi11:56
alvin1ok back to my original question. How Do I untar the file? I get a message in the terminal screen saying no directory exists.11:56
alvin1after step that is11:56
alvin1*after step11:56
geirhaafter running the tar -xf command?11:57
yofelyou need to change to the location the file is at first, 'cd Downloads' assuming it's in your Downloads folder and you're in your home folder currently11:57
geirhaYou can actually type in (without hitting enter,  ''tar xf ''  and then drag and drop the tar.gz file into the terminal.11:58
alvin1ok let me try that.12:00
geirhaWhen you drag a file to the terminal, the full path to it will be written at the cursor.12:03
geirhaAnd then you hit enter, of course, and it'll unpack it in the current dir. So then you can precede to step 4.12:04
alvin1geirha: the tar xf worked great12:04
duanedesignyep that is a neat tip geirha12:05
alvin1computer says "NO"...permission denied12:06
alvin1wtf12:06
geirha*cough*12:07
geirhaWhen you run ./setup?12:07
alvin1no. after I press enter12:07
alvin1is that normal12:07
geirhaThen you don't have write permission in the current dir.12:08
alvin1I thought I had Admin access12:08
alvin1I'm the sole user of this machine12:08
alvin1shouldn't I have super user status12:08
geirhaWhat directory are you currenty in?  running  pwd  will tell.12:10
alvin1come again...all I have is my download folder open12:11
alvin1*the location of the tar file12:11
duanedesignalvin1: yes but what directory are you in, in the Terminal12:11
alvin1nil12:11
alvin1How can I check12:11
duanedesignduanedesign@duanedesign-laptop:~/Examples$12:12
duanedesignI am in ~/Examples12:12
duanedesignor /home/duanedesign/Examples12:12
duanedesignif you run the command:   pwd12:13
duanedesignit will print the directory you are in12:13
alvin1Home/alvin12:13
geirhaYou mean  /home/alvin ?12:14
alvin1yes12:14
geirhaSo your home directory. You should have write access to that dir.12:14
geirhaCould you maybe copy/paste the error line(s) to a pastebin?12:14
alvin1I  got it. I needed to re-type cd Downloads12:16
duanedesign\o/12:16
alvin1after that I typed tar xf12:16
alvin1hey I'm a beginner12:17
alvin1LOL12:17
duanedesign:)12:17
alvin1I must be very frustarting12:17
duanedesignnope12:17
alvin1ok then on to step 4 right?12:18
duanedesignwe like to help. That is why we are here :)12:18
alvin1whey do I have to type cd Downloads? What is it telling the computer to do12:18
duanedesigncd is change directory12:19
alvin1I see12:19
alvin1so I was in the wrong directory12:19
duanedesignyou can also type 'cd ..' to jump up a directory12:19
geirhaYou're not telling the computer to change directory though, you are telling the shell to change directory.12:19
alvin1where can I go to learn more about terminal commands?12:20
geirhaalvin1: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide12:20
alvin1Ok, now that the package has been unpacked should I proceed to step 4: Change to the newly created subdirectory: cd exile3-linux-112:22
duanedesignhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal <--this has a nice introduction. Also reading the RootSudo page might be a good idea. Get an understanding of sudo.12:23
alvin1geirha: What do I do now?12:25
alvin1geirha: the file has been unpacked - I just got message showing a zip file inside a folder12:26
geirhamessage showing a zip file inside a folder?12:27
geirhaWhat happens when you run cd exile3-linux-1 ?12:27
alvin1let me try12:27
alvin1this message pops up: No such file or directory12:28
alvin1I just extracted the folder into the download directory and retyped cd exile3-linux-1. the following message came up: alvin@alvin-HP-Pavilion-dv2500-Notebook-PC:~/Downloads/exile3-linux-1$12:31
alvin1what does it wont me to do?12:31
alvin1no I got it. thanks for your help. I feel a lot more comfortable with tar files now.12:33
geirhaalvin1: It succeeded, you have now changed into the exile3-linux-1 directory12:33
alvin1thanks mate12:33
duanedesignalvin1: you can usi the command 'ls' to list the contents of the directory you are in12:33
geirhawicked long hostname you have ;P12:33
alvin1not my choice I can assure you12:34
alvin1will the file appear in my application menu?12:34
geirhaalvin1: That entirely depends on whether the setup installs a menu entry or not.12:35
duanedesignif there is a read me file it might provide additional details12:35
alvin1otherwise I will have to access it via the folder right?12:35
geirhaalvin1: Well, you can always create a menu entry for it yourself.12:36
yofel!cli12:43
ubot2The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal or type in it: man intro12:43
yofelour help page is a good short introduction if you don't want to read the whole bash guide12:43
kristian-aalborghi ppl16:31
kristian-aalborgcan anybody help me with getting my sound to work with spdif?16:31
holsteinspdif in or out?16:32
kristian-aalborghi holstein16:32
kristian-aalborgout16:32
holsteini assume everything else is working fine...16:32
kristian-aalborgI was trying yesterday... did you se the info there our would you like me to post it again?16:33
holsteinopen a terminal and pastebin me16:33
holsteinaplay -l16:33
kristian-aalborghttp://pastebin.com/9h3vUrcR16:34
holsteincool16:34
holsteinyour hdmi out is showing up even :)16:35
holsteini guess thats on your graphics card16:35
holsteinkristian-aalborg: when you run16:35
holsteinalsamixer16:35
holsteinand hit F516:35
kristian-aalborghttp://pastebin.com/7NMiwTts here's the output of the alsa-info script16:35
holsteindo you see a label about spdif?16:35
kristian-aalborgyes16:36
kristian-aalborgI have a sound card too... it's that which I want to use16:36
kristian-aalborgcmedia16:36
kristian-aalborgC-Media CMI873816:37
holsteinyeah, i just thought that was worth noting16:37
kristian-aalborgI upgraded to newer alsa as you can probably see16:37
holsteinwasnt long ago that would be a pain i bet16:37
holsteinjust to see that hdmi out16:37
holsteinwell, here's another in your position seems16:38
holsteinhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=52975716:38
holsteinfrom 200716:38
kristian-aalborgwhat bug me is that alsamixer lists my spdif as s/pdif - not iec958 (or whatever... you probably know what I mean)16:38
holsteini was going to suggest trying to update alsa16:38
holsteinhmmm....16:39
kristian-aalborgI also got pulseaudio per a forum post somewhere16:44
holsteinkristian-aalborg: do you have pavucontrol ?16:45
kristian-aalborgyes16:45
holsteini cant imagine what would be reported there that you cant see other places...16:45
kristian-aalborghurm16:51
kristian-aalborgthis is hairy stuff.... I think I'll give mint 10 a shot, faster to install a new / a few distros than trying to get my head around ALSA16:51
kristian-aalborgI hope I'm still welcome here ;)16:52
holsteinkristian-aalborg: sure looks like it *should* be working16:55
kristian-aalborgexactly16:55
holsteinid say try that mint CD live too though16:55
ChrisDruifkristian-aalborg: Sure your welcome here :)16:55
holsteinbefore installing16:55
kristian-aalborgholstein: yeah, but I'm not sure this will work from any live environment17:03
iceflatlineHappy ($local_holiday) everyone!17:29
kristian-aalborgany framebuffer users here? Can't quite get that stuff to work as cool as it should on the 77018:03
stlsaintMerry Xmas folks19:46
nlsthznstlsaint: best to you and yours :)19:47
stlsaintthanks19:47
ChrisDruifHi everyone :)20:44
ChrisDruifI've got a question for y'all :P20:48
ChrisDruifDoes anybody know where the number and layout (rows & coloms) of desktops are stored on Ubuntu?20:49
geirhaIn gconf (you can browse it with ''gconf-editor''). It's somewhere under /apps/metacity or /apps/compiz if I remember correctly.20:51
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holsteinHA, metacity - general - num_workspaces20:55
ChrisDruifI've found it: ~/.gconf/apps/panel/applets/workspace_switcher_screen0/prefs/%gconf.xml20:59
holsteinhey, even better :)20:59
kristian-aalborghi again21:00
kristian-aalborgthis is weird... when I start a ubuntu 10.10/ mint 10 livecd, it stalls at the boot loader21:01
kristian-aalborgalso, unless I disable the TV, lower resolutions don't quite work on this install (ubuntu 10.4)21:03
nit-witkristian-aalborg, have you had to use a nomodeset to get in  in the past21:03
ChrisDruifI've got to check at home, just to make sure it's also there on my PC :P :D21:04
kristian-aalborghi nit-wit21:06
kristian-aalborgto make the installer not freak out when it discovers the TV?21:07
shigginsIf I am running a desktop on Ubuntu and I only intend to use Windows for gaming purposes is it better to run a virtual machine or just install both?21:07
holsteinshiggins: i would dual boot21:10
holsteinyou'll want the windows to be native prolly for gaming21:10
grizzlyattackanyone here?22:28
ChrisDruifSure :)22:29
grizzlyattackOkay, do you know anything about streaming from Ubuntu to the Wii?22:30
holsteinwhat can the Wii stream?22:31
ChrisDruifNo, sorry... phillw: do you know something about streaming to Wii?22:31
grizzlyattackI know i've done it on Windows with Orb. But I'm completely switched over now.22:32
grizzlyattackand Orb had a very slow stream.22:32
holsteinhttp://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Stream-Video-to-your-Wii/22:33
grizzlyattackthose are Windows instructions22:34
grizzlyattackI don't know if it'll work the same way22:34
holsteinVLC instructions22:34
holsteinsame idea22:35
phillwgrizzlyattack: ChrisDruif the only stuff I know about is from the forum area.http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=33422:35
phillwthey are the people to go nag :)22:36
grizzlyattackhmmm maybe I'll just try to make something on my own. I just wanted to see what was out there first. Thanks.22:36
ChrisDruifYou can install VLC on Ubuntu as well ;)22:37
ChrisDruifNo prob grizzlyattack22:37
grizzlyattackHave a good day/night22:37
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