[00:20] <sogepp> yeah..
[00:20] <sogepp> morning lads :)
[00:22] <UndiFineD> :)
[00:31] <flourishing7> Hi, using ubuntu 1010 - I have update keyring problem:
[00:31] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 1010 in drivel (Ubuntu) "out-of-date (heat: 1)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1010
[00:31] <flourishing7> GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com maverick Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 16126D3A3E5C1192 Ubuntu Extras Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[00:31] <flourishing7> W: Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/Release
[00:31] <flourishing7> I have used many commands from the forums & guides such as:
[00:31] <flourishing7> gpg –keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com –recv 3E5C1192
[00:31] <flourishing7> gpg –export –armor 3E5C1192 | sudo apt-key add -
[00:31] <flourishing7> sudo apt-get update
[00:31] <flourishing7> from http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-gpg-error-httpextras-ubuntu-com-maverick-release.html
[00:31] <flourishing7> and other commands such as:
[00:31] <flourishing7> sudo gpg –keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com –recv 02FDF932
[00:31] <flourishing7> sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 02FDF932
[00:32] <flourishing7> Nothing has worked, In the meantime, using these commands I seem to have added a few extra keys to my software sources authentication tab such as dropox automatic signing key (linux@dropbox.com); Launchpad application review board PPA; Launchpad PPA for Ubuntu Mozilla Daily Build Team; Google, Inc. Linux packages singing key (linux-packages-keymaster@google.com)
[00:32] <flourishing7> How can I resolve this?
[01:02] <kristian-aalborg> okay, so got the alsa numbers to correspond
[01:02] <kristian-aalborg> bioterror: you there?
[01:03] <bioterror> for a while
[03:49] <RNail> soo, anyone available to help
[03:51] <holstein> ....
[04:48] <aveilleux> Calvin: What OS are you booting, the Ubuntu LiveCD?
[04:48] <Calvin> I downloaded the ubuntu desktop 10.10
[04:49] <aveilleux> Calvin: You can take the iso you downloaded and use Disk Utility to apply its image to the USB drive
[04:49] <aveilleux> Calvin: Alternately, if you're feeling adventurous, you can use a Terminal utility called dd
[04:50] <Calvin> Yeah I used the terminal. I didn't have any problems doing that but when I restart I hold the alt key to boot from it and osx only see the internal drive
[04:51] <Calvin> I followed the steps on this page http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download and everything go's great until the last step
[04:52] <aveilleux> Calvin: You used something like: dd ubuntu.iso /Volumes/USB  correct?
[04:52] <Calvin> I used dd if=/path/to/downloaded.img of=/dev/rdiskN bs=1m
[04:52] <aveilleux> Calvin: Er, that.
[04:52] <aveilleux> dd's synatx always gets me
[04:53] <Calvin> Its all beyond me thats why I want to install linux. I want to learn
[04:54] <aveilleux> Calvin: Is there a particular reason you're making a LiveUSB instead of a LiveCD?
[04:54] <aveilleux> Calvin: (sidenote: I just finished installing Ubuntu on my Mac Mini 3,1 literally 20 minutes ago
[04:54] <aveilleux> )
[04:55] <Calvin> I tried doing that. I can't get my mac to see the disk. I can boot from my install disk no problem but it won't see the linux disk
[04:57] <aveilleux> Calvin: Recognizing the Ubuntu CD takes much longer than the OSX install disc. How long did you wait for the disc to be read? It took upwards of ten seconds for me (and was labeled "Windows)
[04:59] <Calvin> also It say I need a disk with 8 point some odd GB and I dont have any dual layered disks. I tried using the netbook version and it just boots in to osx.
[04:59] <Calvin> Will holding alt down work with a dvd? or is it only holding down c that works with that?
[05:01] <aveilleux> Calvin: You only need the install DVD if you need the language packs. You don't need the DVD 99% of the time.
[05:01] <Calvin> So what do I off of the ISO?
[05:02] <aveilleux> Calvin: Verbs missing
[05:02] <Calvin> what?
[05:02] <aveilleux> Calvin: "So what do I <VERB> off of the ISO?"
[05:03] <Calvin> copy srry. but the question still stands
[05:03] <aveilleux> Calvin: Nothing. Just download the LiveCD ISO, not the DVD.
[05:05] <Calvin> Where can I find that. I downloaded what ever was linked to off of the main page on ubuntu.com
[05:05] <aveilleux> Calvin: That would be the LiveCD.
[05:05] <aveilleux> Calvin: I'd love to stay and help, but I really need to get to bed.
[05:05] <aveilleux> Calvin: Sorry :(
[05:06] <Calvin> Do you have a link before you leave?
[05:07] <aveilleux> Calvin: http://mirrors.xmission.com/ubuntu-cd/10.04/ Grab the "Desktop CD" (If your computer has a Core 2 CPU, use the AMD64 image; if it's a Core CPU, use the Intel x86 image)
[05:07] <UndiFineD> hey Calvin
[05:08] <UndiFineD> reading up
[05:11] <Calvin> soI tried the net book version of ubuntu and I stil couldn't get my mac to see the disk by holding down the c key on a reboot
[05:11] <UndiFineD> I know nothing of mac
[05:12] <Calvin> thank anyway
[05:55] <bodhizazen> paultag, poke
[05:58] <stlsaint> bodhizazen: whoa
[05:58] <bodhizazen> 'lo stlsaint
[05:58] <bodhizazen> zup ?
[05:58] <stlsaint> this is a surprise to see you here on xmas eve
[05:58] <bodhizazen> Just got done playing Santa =)
[05:59] <stlsaint> LOL, why does that not surprise me
[05:59] <stlsaint> how you been
[05:59] <bodhizazen> not bad, you see my 'new and improved' css ?
[05:59] <bodhizazen> I also posted on 'privacy'
[06:00] <stlsaint> i havent checked recently
[06:00] <stlsaint> been messing with backtrack lately
[06:00] <bodhizazen> Oh, sounds like fun
[06:00] <stlsaint> lol, yea rev'ing up to deploy overseas next month
[06:02] <stlsaint> any special holiday plans?
[06:02] <bodhizazen> skiing next week
[06:02] <stlsaint> lol, thats exactly what i was thinking you would say
[06:06] <bodhizazen> =)
[09:01] <suraj> anybody can help me with installation of nvidia driveers
[09:01] <suraj> ????
[09:02] <suraj> anybody der
[09:02] <suraj> ?????????
[09:02] <hobgoblin> what have you done so far? what card is it ? what version ubuntu is it?
[09:02] <hobgoblin> and don't be impatient - we are not sitting arounf waiting for people to call
[09:03] <suraj> im using ubuntu 10.4 LTS
[09:03] <suraj> my nvidia chipset is nforce mix integrated graphics
[09:04] <suraj> i have installed the drivers recommemded by ubuntu...but my ubuntu desktop crashed
[09:05] <suraj> i also downloaded the drivers from nvidia site....my ubuntu desktop crashed wen it restarted n it opened in commands mode
[09:06] <suraj> thats it
[09:06] <hobgoblin> aaah - I'd start by booting the recovery mode - second option in the grub menu - if you do not see the menu - Shift as grub loads
[09:06] <suraj> i tried...but it didnt help
[09:07] <hobgoblin> then you'll get another small menu - there's a fix grpahics option I believe - if that does not help then drop to a root shell and do this - write it down and case is important
[09:07] <hobgoblin> mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.2512
[09:08] <hobgoblin> then type reboot and enter
[09:08] <suraj> wen i reboot i got safe graphics option
[09:09] <hobgoblin> see if that gets you into the system with the deafult driver
[09:09] <suraj> k i'll do dat...thnks for help
[09:22] <hobgoblin> hi nit-wit
[09:22] <hobgoblin> quick hello and then I'm off
[09:22] <nit-wit> hobgoblin, merry noliday's
[09:22] <nit-wit> *Holiday's
[09:23] <hobgoblin> and you :)
[09:23] <hobgoblin> cya
[11:46] <alvin1> Can someone explain to me how I unpack a tarball?
[11:48] <yofel> just unpacking would be 'tar xf <file>'
[11:52] <duanedesign> alvin1: in Nautilus you can also right-click and select extract here.
[11:53] <alvin1> why then do instructions on tar files direct me the terminal?
[11:54] <geirha> What instructions?
[11:54] <alvin1> These are the instructions I have been given : 1. Download Exile III for Linux by clicking on the download link                above. When your browser asks what you wish to do with the file,                choose "Save to Disk." Save the file under the following                name: exile3-linux-1.tar.gz
[11:54] <alvin1>               
[11:54] <alvin1>               2. At the Linux shell prompt, type the following command: gunzip                exile3-linux-1.tar.gz
[11:54] <alvin1>               
[11:54] <alvin1>               3. Next, type the following command: tar -xf exile3-linux-1.tar
[11:54] <alvin1>               
[11:54] <alvin1>               4. Change to the newly created subdirectory: cd exile3-linux-1
[11:54] <alvin1>               
[11:54] <alvin1>               5. Run the Exile III for Linux setup program by entering this command:                ./setup
[11:54] <duanedesign> most authors are either CLI or GUI folks.
[11:54] <alvin1> wow that wasn't meant to happen...sorry
[11:55] <duanedesign> depending on which the instructions can differ
[11:55] <geirha> alvin1: Some run linux without a GUI, so CLI commands will work for all.
[11:56] <duanedesign> it can also be easier to write instructions for the CLi
[11:56] <alvin1> ok back to my original question. How Do I untar the file? I get a message in the terminal screen saying no directory exists.
[11:56] <alvin1> after step that is
[11:56] <alvin1> *after step
[11:57] <geirha> after running the tar -xf command?
[11:57] <yofel> you need to change to the location the file is at first, 'cd Downloads' assuming it's in your Downloads folder and you're in your home folder currently
[11:58] <geirha> You can actually type in (without hitting enter,  ''tar xf ''  and then drag and drop the tar.gz file into the terminal.
[12:00] <alvin1> ok let me try that.
[12:03] <geirha> When you drag a file to the terminal, the full path to it will be written at the cursor.
[12:04] <geirha> And then you hit enter, of course, and it'll unpack it in the current dir. So then you can precede to step 4.
[12:04] <alvin1> geirha: the tar xf worked great
[12:05] <duanedesign> yep that is a neat tip geirha
[12:06] <alvin1> computer says "NO"...permission denied
[12:06] <alvin1> wtf
[12:07] <geirha> *cough*
[12:07] <geirha> When you run ./setup?
[12:07] <alvin1> no. after I press enter
[12:07] <alvin1> is that normal
[12:08] <geirha> Then you don't have write permission in the current dir.
[12:08] <alvin1> I thought I had Admin access
[12:08] <alvin1> I'm the sole user of this machine
[12:08] <alvin1> shouldn't I have super user status
[12:10] <geirha> What directory are you currenty in?  running  pwd  will tell.
[12:11] <alvin1> come again...all I have is my download folder open
[12:11] <alvin1> *the location of the tar file
[12:11] <duanedesign> alvin1: yes but what directory are you in, in the Terminal
[12:11] <alvin1> nil
[12:11] <alvin1> How can I check
[12:12] <duanedesign> duanedesign@duanedesign-laptop:~/Examples$
[12:12] <duanedesign> I am in ~/Examples
[12:12] <duanedesign> or /home/duanedesign/Examples
[12:13] <duanedesign> if you run the command:   pwd
[12:13] <duanedesign> it will print the directory you are in
[12:13] <alvin1> Home/alvin
[12:14] <geirha> You mean  /home/alvin ?
[12:14] <alvin1> yes
[12:14] <geirha> So your home directory. You should have write access to that dir.
[12:14] <geirha> Could you maybe copy/paste the error line(s) to a pastebin?
[12:16] <alvin1> I  got it. I needed to re-type cd Downloads
[12:16] <duanedesign> \o/
[12:16] <alvin1> after that I typed tar xf
[12:17] <alvin1> hey I'm a beginner
[12:17] <alvin1> LOL
[12:17] <duanedesign> :)
[12:17] <alvin1> I must be very frustarting
[12:17] <duanedesign> nope
[12:18] <alvin1> ok then on to step 4 right?
[12:18] <duanedesign> we like to help. That is why we are here :)
[12:18] <alvin1> whey do I have to type cd Downloads? What is it telling the computer to do
[12:19] <duanedesign> cd is change directory
[12:19] <alvin1> I see
[12:19] <alvin1> so I was in the wrong directory
[12:19] <duanedesign> you can also type 'cd ..' to jump up a directory
[12:19] <geirha> You're not telling the computer to change directory though, you are telling the shell to change directory.
[12:20] <alvin1> where can I go to learn more about terminal commands?
[12:20] <geirha> alvin1: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
[12:22] <alvin1> Ok, now that the package has been unpacked should I proceed to step 4: Change to the newly created subdirectory: cd exile3-linux-1
[12:23] <duanedesign> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal <--this has a nice introduction. Also reading the RootSudo page might be a good idea. Get an understanding of sudo.
[12:25] <alvin1> geirha: What do I do now?
[12:26] <alvin1> geirha: the file has been unpacked - I just got message showing a zip file inside a folder
[12:27] <geirha> message showing a zip file inside a folder?
[12:27] <geirha> What happens when you run cd exile3-linux-1 ?
[12:27] <alvin1> let me try
[12:28] <alvin1> this message pops up: No such file or directory
[12:31] <alvin1> I just extracted the folder into the download directory and retyped cd exile3-linux-1. the following message came up: alvin@alvin-HP-Pavilion-dv2500-Notebook-PC:~/Downloads/exile3-linux-1$
[12:31] <alvin1> what does it wont me to do?
[12:33] <alvin1> no I got it. thanks for your help. I feel a lot more comfortable with tar files now.
[12:33] <geirha> alvin1: It succeeded, you have now changed into the exile3-linux-1 directory
[12:33] <alvin1> thanks mate
[12:33] <duanedesign> alvin1: you can usi the command 'ls' to list the contents of the directory you are in
[12:33] <geirha> wicked long hostname you have ;P
[12:34] <alvin1> not my choice I can assure you
[12:34] <alvin1> will the file appear in my application menu?
[12:35] <geirha> alvin1: That entirely depends on whether the setup installs a menu entry or not.
[12:35] <duanedesign> if there is a read me file it might provide additional details
[12:35] <alvin1> otherwise I will have to access it via the folder right?
[12:36] <geirha> alvin1: Well, you can always create a menu entry for it yourself.
[12:43] <yofel> !cli
[12:43] <ubot2> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal or type in it: man intro
[12:43] <yofel> our help page is a good short introduction if you don't want to read the whole bash guide
[16:31] <kristian-aalborg> hi ppl
[16:31] <kristian-aalborg> can anybody help me with getting my sound to work with spdif?
[16:32] <holstein> spdif in or out?
[16:32] <kristian-aalborg> hi holstein
[16:32] <kristian-aalborg> out
[16:32] <holstein> i assume everything else is working fine...
[16:33] <kristian-aalborg> I was trying yesterday... did you se the info there our would you like me to post it again?
[16:33] <holstein> open a terminal and pastebin me
[16:33] <holstein> aplay -l
[16:34] <kristian-aalborg> http://pastebin.com/9h3vUrcR
[16:34] <holstein> cool
[16:35] <holstein> your hdmi out is showing up even :)
[16:35] <holstein> i guess thats on your graphics card
[16:35] <holstein> kristian-aalborg: when you run
[16:35] <holstein> alsamixer
[16:35] <holstein> and hit F5
[16:35] <kristian-aalborg> http://pastebin.com/7NMiwTts here's the output of the alsa-info script
[16:35] <holstein> do you see a label about spdif?
[16:36] <kristian-aalborg> yes
[16:36] <kristian-aalborg> I have a sound card too... it's that which I want to use
[16:36] <kristian-aalborg> cmedia
[16:37] <kristian-aalborg> C-Media CMI8738
[16:37] <holstein> yeah, i just thought that was worth noting
[16:37] <kristian-aalborg> I upgraded to newer alsa as you can probably see
[16:37] <holstein> wasnt long ago that would be a pain i bet
[16:37] <holstein> just to see that hdmi out
[16:38] <holstein> well, here's another in your position seems
[16:38] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=529757
[16:38] <holstein> from 2007
[16:38] <kristian-aalborg> what bug me is that alsamixer lists my spdif as s/pdif - not iec958 (or whatever... you probably know what I mean)
[16:38] <holstein> i was going to suggest trying to update alsa
[16:39] <holstein> hmmm....
[16:44] <kristian-aalborg> I also got pulseaudio per a forum post somewhere
[16:45] <holstein> kristian-aalborg: do you have pavucontrol ?
[16:45] <kristian-aalborg> yes
[16:45] <holstein> i cant imagine what would be reported there that you cant see other places...
[16:51] <kristian-aalborg> hurm
[16:51] <kristian-aalborg> this is hairy stuff.... I think I'll give mint 10 a shot, faster to install a new / a few distros than trying to get my head around ALSA
[16:52] <kristian-aalborg> I hope I'm still welcome here ;)
[16:55] <holstein> kristian-aalborg: sure looks like it *should* be working
[16:55] <kristian-aalborg> exactly
[16:55] <holstein> id say try that mint CD live too though
[16:55] <ChrisDruif> kristian-aalborg: Sure your welcome here :)
[16:55] <holstein> before installing
[17:03] <kristian-aalborg> holstein: yeah, but I'm not sure this will work from any live environment
[17:29] <iceflatline> Happy ($local_holiday) everyone!
[18:03] <kristian-aalborg> any framebuffer users here? Can't quite get that stuff to work as cool as it should on the 770
[19:46] <stlsaint> Merry Xmas folks
[19:47] <nlsthzn> stlsaint: best to you and yours :)
[19:47] <stlsaint> thanks
[20:44] <ChrisDruif> Hi everyone :)
[20:48] <ChrisDruif> I've got a question for y'all :P
[20:49] <ChrisDruif> Does anybody know where the number and layout (rows & coloms) of desktops are stored on Ubuntu?
[20:51] <geirha> In gconf (you can browse it with ''gconf-editor''). It's somewhere under /apps/metacity or /apps/compiz if I remember correctly.
[20:55] <holstein> HA, metacity - general - num_workspaces
[20:59] <ChrisDruif> I've found it: ~/.gconf/apps/panel/applets/workspace_switcher_screen0/prefs/%gconf.xml
[20:59] <holstein> hey, even better :)
[21:00] <kristian-aalborg> hi again
[21:01] <kristian-aalborg> this is weird... when I start a ubuntu 10.10/ mint 10 livecd, it stalls at the boot loader
[21:03] <kristian-aalborg> also, unless I disable the TV, lower resolutions don't quite work on this install (ubuntu 10.4)
[21:03] <nit-wit> kristian-aalborg, have you had to use a nomodeset to get in  in the past
[21:04] <ChrisDruif> I've got to check at home, just to make sure it's also there on my PC :P :D
[21:06] <kristian-aalborg> hi nit-wit
[21:07] <kristian-aalborg> to make the installer not freak out when it discovers the TV?
[21:07] <shiggins> If I am running a desktop on Ubuntu and I only intend to use Windows for gaming purposes is it better to run a virtual machine or just install both?
[21:10] <holstein> shiggins: i would dual boot
[21:10] <holstein> you'll want the windows to be native prolly for gaming
[22:28] <grizzlyattack> anyone here?
[22:29] <ChrisDruif> Sure :)
[22:30] <grizzlyattack> Okay, do you know anything about streaming from Ubuntu to the Wii?
[22:31] <holstein> what can the Wii stream?
[22:31] <ChrisDruif> No, sorry... phillw: do you know something about streaming to Wii?
[22:32] <grizzlyattack> I know i've done it on Windows with Orb. But I'm completely switched over now.
[22:32] <grizzlyattack> and Orb had a very slow stream.
[22:33] <holstein> http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Stream-Video-to-your-Wii/
[22:34] <grizzlyattack> those are Windows instructions
[22:34] <grizzlyattack> I don't know if it'll work the same way
[22:34] <holstein> VLC instructions
[22:35] <holstein> same idea
[22:35] <phillw> grizzlyattack: ChrisDruif the only stuff I know about is from the forum area.http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=334
[22:36] <phillw> they are the people to go nag :)
[22:36] <grizzlyattack> hmmm maybe I'll just try to make something on my own. I just wanted to see what was out there first. Thanks.
[22:37] <ChrisDruif> You can install VLC on Ubuntu as well ;)
[22:37] <ChrisDruif> No prob grizzlyattack
[22:37] <grizzlyattack> Have a good day/night