[00:03] <penguin42> heeed: And yo ho ho to you
[00:20] <Azelphur> what webcams do people have working with Ubuntu btw?
[00:21] <Azelphur> I'm after something not too expensive but not crap, mid range I suppose :p
[00:24] <UndiFineD> logitech quickcam
[00:24] <Azelphur> UndiFineD: which one?
[00:25] <UndiFineD> an old crappy one
[00:25] <UndiFineD> it is dusty
[00:25] <Azelphur> haha
[00:25] <Azelphur> UndiFineD: look at label for me? :D
[00:25] <UndiFineD> it has been peeled off
[00:25] <Azelphur> haha
[00:25] <UndiFineD> kids
[00:26] <UndiFineD> but it works hen i need it
[00:26] <Azelphur> might just get a pro 9000, kinda expensive but good quality
[00:54] <mumbles> happy christmas
[00:59] <peter74> Good tidings to you mumbles
[06:23] <MartijnVdS> Azelphur: Any UVC cam wil work
[06:23] <MartijnVdS> Azelphur: UVC = cool
[06:24] <MartijnVdS> Azelphur: ad site, but http://www.uvccompatiblewebcams.com/
[07:19] <ball> Merry Christmas Britain!
[07:21] <MartijnVdS> ball: Merry Christmas America ;)
[07:21] <MartijnVdS> or should I say "Happy Holidays" just to annoy people ;)
[07:24]  * ball grins
[07:26] <ball> I have a stinking cold.
[07:29] <ball> I may sleep in the recliner tonight.
[07:36] <cr215> hi. it would be awesome if someone could tell me ho to make sound come out thru the hdmi... the picture was a sinch for my tv but sound is a prob
[07:37] <cr215> is anyone there?
[07:41] <cr215> is nyone talking at all?  my conworknection is good but it wont
[07:41] <cr215> i cant c anyone else
[07:46] <exobuzz> well. you can hardly expect lots of action here xmas morning at 7:40am!
[07:47] <exobuzz> oh. they went anyway
[07:48] <ball> hello cr215
[07:48] <ball> oops, too late.
[07:48] <ball> exobuzz: He, she or it didn't even give anyone time to answer.
[07:50] <danfish> it sure is early, but a Christmas toast to all with a glass of Bucks Fizz :)
[07:53] <danfish> I cannot believe the packaging on kid's presents - I've just had to use a pair of heavy duty wirecutters to get a present out of it's wrappers
[07:57] <exobuzz> danfish, on the booze already ? :)
[07:58]  * exobuzz has been up since 3am. ready for a wine actually.
[08:01]  * ball is off to bed.
[08:01] <ball> ...or the recliner, anyway.
[08:12] <shauno> bah.  just realised there's not enough coffee at the office to last the weekend :(
[08:13] <danfish> exobuzz: small kids - up since 5am. A Bucks fizz with a brekkie of salmon and eggs is an xmas tradition :)
[08:13] <danfish> shauno: working? :(
[08:14] <shauno> yeah.  it's a good thing.  4 days of good money this year :)
[08:15] <shauno> just feel like a bit of a prat for not stocking up before the shops shut
[08:18] <danfish> shauno: shops are open widely 2moro
[08:20] <shauno> can grab some from home tonight.  just gonna be a bit tight today
[08:21] <shauno> not a real problem, just a bad way to wake up  heh
[08:32] <popey> Azelphur: see http://popey.com/blog/2010/12/20/my-ubuntu-webcam-setup/
[08:33] <popey> Azelphur: there is a link there to the webcam I have which I use for http://popey.com/webcam/ - and it's a UVC cam
[08:33] <popey> danfish: sounds yummy! I had scrambled egg and bacon sarnie :)
[08:35] <czajkowski> Merry Christmas :)
[08:38] <danfish> popey: egg and bacon - a winning combo! Merry Christmas
[08:39] <exobuzz> danfish, sounds nice! got any left? gimme 10 mins!
[08:40] <danfish> czajkowski: merry christmas to you, but shouldn't you be starting to make your way back here, y'no, in case of more bad weather ;)
[08:40] <exobuzz> happy xmas popey
[08:44] <kazade> Merry Christmas all! :)
[08:44]  * kazade is still waiting for his girlfriend to wake up :/
[08:44] <exobuzz> you can always help her wake up!
[08:45] <exobuzz> i mean with breakfast in bed or something :)
[08:46] <kazade> she's got 15 minutes, then I'm getting a bucket of water
[08:46] <kazade> ;)
[08:46] <exobuzz> you romantic ;-)
[08:47] <danfish> kazade: the bucket of water will of course have 24 red roses in it ;)
[08:48] <kazade> :)
[08:48] <kazade> so, what did everyone get then?
[08:48] <AlanBell> happy christmas all \o/
[08:48] <danfish> kazade: socks
[08:48] <AlanBell> I got a mug with chickens on it :)
[08:48] <kazade> danfish, traditional ;)
[08:49]  * kazade wants a chicken mug
[08:50] <danfish> AlanBell: do the chickens lay eggs in this cold weather?
[08:50] <shauno> sounds like they lay mugs
[09:20] <AlanBell> danfish: about one egg a day
[09:20] <AlanBell> between the three of them
[09:28] <danfish> AlanBell: so an omelette takes a few days then, but tastes of freedom :)
[09:33] <exobuzz> dvd, teacosy for my head, socks
[09:34]  * exobuzz also wants chicken mug
[09:34] <exobuzz> :)
[09:51] <Ferb> merry xmas everyone
[09:55]  * Ferb detects this channel is dead
[09:56] <Ferb> yup its dead alright, mabe its because its xmas
[10:09] <exobuzz> strange how people think if you dont get a reply within 5 mins, then a channel is dead
[10:12] <UndiFineD> Ferb sees dead people, they are everywhere
[10:12] <exobuzz> heh
[10:38] <kazade> I got a flying lesson!
[10:38] <kazade> Amazing!
[10:38] <MartijnVdS> kazade: pushed from a high window? ;0
[10:38] <kazade> :p
[10:41] <dutchie> stupid family abandoning me on christmas day to go to church
[10:41]  * dutchie is all alone apart from dog and cat
[10:41] <shauno> and the internet :)
[10:42] <dutchie> yay, the internet
[10:43] <MartijnVdS> all of the internets
[10:52] <Phineas> merry xmas all
[10:53] <MartijnVdS> you too Phineas
[10:53] <Phineas> MartijnVdS,  what have you got so far?
[10:53] <MartijnVdS> Phineas: nothing -- we're doing presents tonight when everyone is at my parents'
[10:54] <Phineas> MartijnVdS,  oh i have done my stocking, not the tree prezzies yet
[10:54] <MartijnVdS> Being single = not much in stockings :)
[10:55] <MartijnVdS> Though I guess I could count my Kraftwerk LPs and Alela & Alina EP :)
[10:55] <MartijnVdS> (limited edition! 89/1000! http://www.popmatters.com/pm/review/112522-alela-alina/)
[10:55] <dutchie> MartijnVdS: i thought you could buy things in stockings in .nl ;)
[10:55] <MartijnVdS> dutchie: rent :P
[10:56] <dutchie> heh, true
[10:56] <Phineas> MartijnVdS,  i got some underwere, an Odie dressed up as a red indian and allot more
[10:57] <MartijnVdS> I like the low number on my limited edition (also, it's nice music :)
[10:58] <Pendulum> I am the only person in my house who is awake and I suspect my grandmother will sleep for another 3 hours so I don't know any of my gifts yet :(
[10:58] <Phineas> yeah
[11:00] <Phineas> Pendulum,  like i said i have done the stocking but not the treeeeeeeeee
[11:01] <Pendulum> Phineas: I can't even do stocking until at least my parents' are up! Family tradition!
[11:02] <Pendulum> urgh. and I just failed and put a possessive where there shouldn't have been one :(
[11:02] <Phineas> Pendulum,  me too, my parents woke up at about 7:30AM GMT
[11:03] <dutchie> i suspect it is silly o'clock for Pendulum
[11:03] <Phineas> so my stocking is done
[11:04] <Pendulum> it is 6AM here
[11:04] <dutchie> see, silly o'clock
[11:04] <Pendulum> my parents were awake for about 10 minutes earlier when my brother rang before he went off to his Christmas stuff, but they went right back to sleep
[11:05] <Phineas> dutchie,  its 11:05 AM here
[11:06] <dutchie> yes, and that is a sensible time to be up on christmas day
[11:06] <Pendulum> but I've actually been up for a couple hours as I'm sharing a room with my grandmother so if she falls in the middle of the night, someone is there and can get help. And she snores and talks in her sleep
[11:07] <Pendulum> so I gave up trying to sleep
[11:07] <Phineas> Pendulum,  thats why i never sleep with my grandparents, they snore
[11:08] <MartijnVdS> ...
[11:11] <Phineas> allot
[11:11] <MartijnVdS> http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html
[11:16] <Phineas> i know
[11:18] <Phineas> guests come round at 2
[11:18] <MartijnVdS> alot of guests? 8_)
[11:18] <Phineas> quite a few yeah
[11:21] <Phineas> some of the guests you wouldn't expect nomaly
[11:27] <Phineas> its gonna be a long slow xmas
[11:46] <Phineas> i worked it out rather than asking you guys woot woot
[11:47] <Phineas> i'm not so stupid after all
[11:47] <Phineas> i installed a font all by myself
[11:51] <MartijnVdS> did we ever say you're stupid? :)
[11:51] <Phineas> nope but i did
[11:52] <MartijnVdS> Never assume the worst :)
[11:53] <Phineas> XD
[12:00] <twager> OT..My son has bought me an iPod Touch..Do I have to install windows and itunes to get it to work ?
[12:00] <brobostigon> happy christmas all.
[12:01] <Phineas> twager,  use rythembox
[12:01] <Phineas> brobostigon,  happy xmas to you too
[12:01] <brobostigon> Phineas: :)
[12:01] <brobostigon> thanks Phineas
[12:02] <Phineas> your welcome
[12:03] <brobostigon> Nadolig Llawen
[12:04] <twager> Phineas, Thanks..Do I tell it to initialise ?
[12:04] <Phineas> twager,  it should power on on connect
[12:07] <twager> Phineas, I started Rythmbox and it tells me the ipod must be initialised before Rythmbox can use it. ?
[12:08]  * brobostigon reckons he should be getting drunk and eating, insted of being on irc, maybe.
[12:12] <Phineas> twager,  yeah initilize it
[12:14] <twager> Phineas, If I went to my mates and used his windows box to install itunes would I still be able to install mp3's from Linux ?
[12:15] <Phineas> twager,  yeah
[12:15] <twager> Ok Ta..Thisk I will do that...Do not want to bugger up the ipod :-)
[12:17] <shauno> yowser .. customer with a server room at 53C .. think I just ruined someone's christmas =x
[12:22] <Phineas> outch thats hot
[12:32] <penguin42> shauno: Don't aircons really love being left alone for a day?
[13:08]  * Phineas puts his santa hat on even tho its itchy
[13:09]  * Phineas grabs himself a glass of Kinnie
[13:13] <Phineas> mmm kinnie
[13:14] <Phineas> you do know what kinnie is don't you?
[13:18] <Phineas> where can i find an Neo-Geo pocket color emulator
[13:20] <Phineas> ?
[13:31] <Phineas> whats a good linux game
[13:31] <Phineas> ?
[13:31] <brobostigon> openarena
[13:32] <Phineas> brobostigon,  what type of game is that
[13:32] <brobostigon> Phineas: a shoot-em-up like quake.
[13:33] <Phineas> brobostigon,  one of my fave games for ubuntu would be Beneath a Steel Sky, do you like that one?
[13:33] <brobostigon> torcs is also good, a carracing game.
[13:33] <brobostigon> Phineas: not heard of it, sorry,
[13:34] <Phineas> brobostigon,  it is in the softwere center
[13:34] <brobostigon> Phineas: ok.
[13:34] <Phineas> brobostigon,  be sure to check it out
[13:34] <brobostigon> Phineas: iwill see. yyes.
[13:35] <Phineas> brobostigon,  its based on a dos game but it is fun tho
[13:35] <brobostigon> Phineas: :)
[13:36] <Phineas> brobostigon, WARNING: contains mild language
[13:36] <brobostigon> i see.
[13:37] <Phineas> brobostigon,  it is T rated
[13:37] <brobostigon> Phineas: ok.
[13:37] <Phineas> brobostigon,  you know what that means don't you?
[13:37] <brobostigon> not totally sure.
[13:38] <Phineas> brobostigon,  Rating(s) 	
[13:38] <Phineas>     * ELSPA: 15+
[13:38] <Phineas>     * ESRB: T
[13:38] <Phineas>     * Apple: 12+
[13:38] <brobostigon> ok.
[13:39] <Phineas> brobostigon,  i know i am a bit young to play it but its free and fun, point and click adventure game
[13:39] <brobostigon> Phineas: ok. no worries.
[13:40] <Phineas> brobostigon,  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beneath_a_Steel_Sky
[13:48] <Phineas> brobostigon,  releaed in march 1994
[13:49] <brobostigon> Phineas: yes.
[13:49] <Phineas> brobostigon,  what do you think?
[13:50] <brobostigon> Phineas: i am quite busy here, i havent managed to get a goodlook nor an install.
[13:51] <Phineas> xmas is always busy
[13:54] <Phineas> brobostigon,  heres a screenshot of the first level    http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/6531/screenshotfh.png
[13:55] <Phineas> brobostigon,  how does it look to you?
[14:03] <MartijnVdS> '90s
[14:09] <Phineas> 100's
[14:09] <MartijnVdS> ಠ_ಠ
[14:15] <Phineas> MartijnVdS,  actualy the game is from 1998
[14:15] <MartijnVdS> that's what I said
[14:15] <MartijnVdS> 90s :)
[14:15] <Phineas> oh yeah
[14:57] <Azelphur> popey: I gave into your will and bought a Logitech business 9000 :P
[15:13]  * suprengr counts down to Dr. Who by watching Shrek 
[15:13] <suprengr> 9
[15:24] <kvarley> Happy politically correct holidays ubuntu-ers
[15:24] <Azelphur> kvarley: isn't that winter fest?
[15:24] <kvarley> Azelphur: Not sure lol
[15:25] <Azelphur> hehe
[15:30] <Azelphur> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apparmor/+bug/615177 hmm, I'm still getting this bug on my TV
[15:30] <Azelphur> but it's marked as fixed :S
[15:32] <Azelphur> suppose I'll have to bug people after christmas about it :p
[16:03]  * suprengr gives up on Shrek  [boring] & switches to Top Gear while still counting down to Dr.Who [2 hrs to go!]
[16:10] <popey> Azelphur: nice one
[16:10] <Azelphur> :)
[16:10] <popey> be interested to know what resolution you get out of it
[16:10] <Azelphur> hehe
[16:11] <popey> should do 1280x720
[16:12] <Azelphur> I got a HTC Desire Z too
[16:12] <popey> unlucky
[16:12] <Craig_Dem> Avatar is on if you need to pass the time.
[16:12] <Craig_Dem> Sky Premiere, HD and 3D.
[16:13] <brobostigon> blackadder is also on tonight,
[16:14]  * suprengr panics... what TWO countdowns for fun.. panics - grabs bottle of beer, smiles
[16:14] <Azelphur> popey: why unlucky?
[16:14] <popey> android :(
[16:14] <Azelphur> wat
[16:14] <Azelphur> what's wrong with android
[16:14] <popey> I'm not impressed by it
[16:14] <popey> see past discussions here about it :)
[16:15] <penguin42> popey: So put Ubuntu on it then.....
[16:15] <Azelphur> ^
[16:15] <popey> hah!
[16:15] <popey> right, make it worse
[16:15] <Azelphur> lol'd
[16:15] <Azelphur> so which mobile OS do you actually like?
[16:15] <Azelphur> if you say iOS I'm going to loose my faith in humanity
[16:15] <popey> iOS
[16:15]  * Azelphur looses faith in humanity
[16:16]  * Azelphur hugs his built in wifi tethering
[16:16] <Craig_Dem> I sit with an osx device on my lap, one in my hand and one on my desk :/
[16:16] <Azelphur> fail
[16:16] <Craig_Dem> And my feet rest on a Linux box :)
[16:16] <popey> that's probably the single only feature I miss, wifi tethering
[16:16] <popey> not enough for me to switch back
[16:16] <Azelphur> popey: I love my emulators too
[16:16] <Azelphur> Have a fully functional playstation emulator :D
[16:17] <Azelphur> been playing gran turismo on it while I'm in bed sick with flu
[16:17] <suprengr> Craig_Dem: [just seen your msg] - only freeview here so just the 2 countdowns still... phew!
[16:17] <danfish> everyone having a jingly xmas day?
[16:17]  * penguin42 jingles at danfish
[16:17]  * brobostigon gets another beer
[16:18] <danfish> brobostigon: excellemt idea
[16:18] <brobostigon> danfish: :)
[16:19] <czajkowski> danfish: don't jinx me
[16:19]  * danfish opens a bottle so sharp's doom bar
[16:19] <suprengr> Azelphur: had it... tried working with for 3 days [up to point where temperature = "seek urgent medical attention"] - what a mistake - I'm over it & back working but still exhausted from the damn thing.  You have my fullest sympathies
[16:20] <Azelphur> suprengr: most of my family has been knocked out for 1 week + with it, I managed to resist it until most of them was better
[16:20] <Azelphur> when I got it I came up with the sane idea of drugging myself and sleeping for 14 hours
[16:20] <Azelphur> I've nearly beat it in one day :D
[16:21] <brobostigon> danfish: i have hook norton, twelve days, here.
[16:21] <suprengr> Azelphur: don't get too over confident... I did - it literally nearly made me extinct as it's revenge - go careful & take care.
[16:22]  * penguin42 has been trying to recover from it for 2 weeks
[16:22] <Azelphur> haha, noted
[16:22] <Azelphur> :(
[16:22] <penguin42> got the delux version with added eye infection
[16:22] <Azelphur> but yea taking it easy anyway, as I say slept for 14 hours and now I'm just chilling at my desk sipping water and honey+menthol stuff :p
[16:22] <Azelphur> penguin42: nice
[16:23] <Azelphur> on the first day of christmas my true love gave to me...flu :D
[16:23] <suprengr> penguin42: yep - that I can understand - Azelphur note!
[16:23] <Azelphur> haha
[16:23]  * suprengr chuckles smugly
[16:24] <penguin42> and I seem to have something up with my left ear still - I do not want that cold/flu again thanks
[16:25] <suprengr> penguin42: wot! something up your left ear - get it out - that's illegal ;D
[16:25] <penguin42> hmm
[16:26] <suprengr> [it's Chrimble - bad jokes allowed
[16:32]  * penguin42 doesn't normally wait
[16:34] <suprengr> http://tinyurl.com/2esnjan  or http://preview.tinyurl.com/2esnjan [if you prefer] for proof of banks being frightened of the truth
[16:36] <Craig_Dem> I just saw that on reddit.
[16:39] <OmNomSequitur> What did everybody have for Christmas dinner?
[16:39] <OmNomSequitur> I ate about 12 sprouts today.
[16:40] <Craig_Dem> We're having ours in 20 mins.
[16:40] <Craig_Dem> I can smell it getting ready :/
[16:50] <danfish> turkey curry tomorrow with the traditional roast potato and sprout bombay aloo ;D
[17:41] <_H> anyone experianced o2's returns policy?
[17:42] <_H> dhl couldn't deliver my parcel [it was less than 2000 meteres from there depot] so it was returned to o2
[17:48] <_H> http://pastebin.com/45aY4Mz7
[18:00] <Azelphur> doctor who about to start on bbc 1 :D
[18:00] <brobostigon> yay,
[18:00]  * brobostigon is already there.
[18:00] <brobostigon> no spoliers.
[18:03] <Azelphur> brobostigon: dumbledore dies on page 596
[18:03]  * Azelphur runs
[18:04] <brobostigon> lol
[18:30] <jpds> Azelphur: Snape kills dumbledore*
[18:30] <Azelphur> xD
[18:32] <mgdm> Dobby kills Gollum
[18:37] <matti> ;]
[18:44] <bigcalm[eee]> Hi kids
[18:57] <Nafallo> popey, Daviey: fwiw, my mirror just swapped httpd. let me know if you guys see any problems ;-)
[18:58] <kazade> evening everyone!
[18:58] <kazade> you guys all had a good day?
[22:18] <Craig_Dem> Is 21.5 billion CRC errors with my ADSL nnnor
[22:18] <Craig_Dem> normal?*
[22:21] <Darael> Probably not.
[22:21] <Darael> Depends on the timescale involved, of course.
[22:22] <Craig_Dem> About 3 minutes :/
[22:23] <Darael> Probably not, then.
[23:21] <penguin42> 21.5B in 3 minutes - is that possible?
[23:28] <shauno> good question.  I don't think you can make a packet smaller than 160 bits.  21.5B * 160 is 3440 billion bits.  over 180 seconds, that's just over 19 billion bits per second, or 19000Mbps
[23:29]  * penguin42 guesses he doesn't have 19Gbps dsl
[23:30] <shauno> either my math is broken, or it'd be impressive to see a residential router even pass that many packets
[23:32] <shauno> not sure what a normal error rate looks like, but my gut feeling is no, that wouldn't be normal :)
[23:46] <brobostigon> nos da, sleep well.
[23:59] <Craig_Dem> It seems to be a common problem on the Bt Homehub v2.