[01:47] <dnivra> i am upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04. i get the error that few packages are corrupt and thus won't be installed. what can i do to install them?
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[05:41] <billybigrigger> anyone else having problems with xterm?
[05:42] <billybigrigger> i launch it from gnome-terminal and it crashes...and abgx360 is crashing because it's trying to launch an xterm session too
[06:39] <nirazio> I use Ubuntu 10.10 and I've been shifting back and forth between the desktop and the netbook remix versions. Now I can't find the unity interface on UNR. It still shows as "installed" on the software center. Logging back and logging in on any other mode, gives me the same interface. Any ideas?
[06:43] <bazhang> nirazio, this channel is for 11.04
[06:43] <nirazio> bazhang: Oh sorry
[09:50] <speedvin> Hello!
[10:27] <yofel> *sigh*, that KDE finally deprecated HAL is good, but now I'm getting insanities from the bug 561479 sort -.-
[10:27] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 561479 in udisks (Ubuntu Maverick) "Windows executable on unwritable removable media cannot execute with Wine due to lack of executable bit" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/561479
[10:39] <test> Hi all, just installed Natty and installed the video drivers, and now I'm left without unity or gnome. What is the command to restart unity? When I try unity --replace it says that unity is not installed
[10:53] <test> restarting after doing all upgrades, brb
[11:05] <test> i'm back, updates didnt help
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[12:27] <gnomefreak> anyone else having issues with 2.6.37-11 configuring?
[12:47]  * penguin42 yawns
[12:51] <scizzo-> penguin42: tired?
[12:51] <penguin42> just waking up
[12:51] <scizzo-> penguin42: have a coffee... :)
[13:02] <gnomefreak> seems we are missing linux-image-generic
[14:11] <BUGabundo> ehlo :D
[14:45] <charlie-tca> Has anyone been able to install using the alternate images?
[14:46]  * penguin42 hasn't tried installs
[15:03] <UndiFineD> charlie-tca, which ones ?
[15:05] <charlie-tca> natty ubuntu and xubuntu alternate i386 and amd64 daily images
[15:05] <charlie-tca> They start the partitioning, then loop back to the start with the language menu
[15:05] <UndiFineD> have not tried daily, I am running a natty ubuntu i386 in vm
[15:06] <charlie-tca> I can't even get to entering the user name
[15:06] <charlie-tca> and I get it on both VirtualBox and Hardware
[15:08] <UndiFineD> sorry, i had no issue with the pre-alpha1
[15:08] <UndiFineD> and that is still running
[15:33] <Martiini> natty fails to upgrade from maverick currently ??
[15:34] <BUGabundo> no idea
[15:34] <vish> charlie-tca: works.. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1325768/Screenshot-Natty%20%5BRunning%5D.png  :)
[15:34] <BUGabundo> been on natty since day one
[15:34] <BUGabundo> lol
[15:34] <IdleOne> same here
[15:34] <Martiini> I will try forcing dpkg ..
[15:34] <IdleOne> actually 1 day before day 1
[15:34] <BUGabundo> IdleOne:  LOL
[15:34] <BUGabundo> how can that be?
[15:35] <Martiini> rpm is actually better than deb ..
[15:35] <IdleOne> BUGabundo: I changed maverick to natty in sources the day before the email was sent out announcing the toolchain dropped
[15:35] <crimsun> Martiini: trolling isn't appreciated, BTW :)
[15:35] <vish> charlie-tca: i just had to install the guest additions and activate the 3D accel..!!
[15:35] <vish> crimsun: lol!
[15:36] <Martiini> I just upgraded opensuse to factory with no problems .. had to force install 2-3 rpms ..
[15:36] <Martiini> aptitude just doesnt want to upgrade .. when its broken
[15:36] <vish> BUGabundo: remember the other day you had a problem with compiz not starting? and error was something about the WM already registered?
[15:37] <BUGabundo> no
[15:37] <BUGabundo> but I have the worse memory
[15:37] <crimsun> Martiini: again, that is no function of rpm or deb. That's a reflection of the developmental state of each distro.
[15:37] <vish> ;p
[15:37] <BUGabundo> I still can't start 3D
[15:37] <IdleOne> why should it upgrade if it knows it is broken
[15:37] <crimsun> Martiini: so, please, stop trolling. :)
[15:37] <vish> BUGabundo: i came across he same problem.. it turns out compiz looks for non-existent gconf keys..
[15:37] <vish> s/he/the
[15:38] <BUGabundo> weeeeeeeeee
[15:38] <penguin42> I had problems upgrading yesterday, update-manager complained that it would have to remove ubuntu-desktop but that it wasn't allowed to - I think in the end I came to the conclusion it was a fight with xubuntu-desktop that I also have
[15:38] <vish> BUGabundo: still no 3D ? what does running compiz from the terminal say?
[15:39] <IdleOne> crimsun: I once forced my car to go down a hill, the breaks still didn't work when i reached the bottom
[15:39] <BUGabundo> vish: I'm running compiz, I think
[15:39] <vish> cool.. :)
[15:39] <BUGabundo> and im not coragoeus enough to try to run that again
[15:39] <BUGabundo> last time took me an afternoon to fix
[15:39] <BUGabundo> I need to upload my photos now
[15:40] <BUGabundo> will try later, once I flash my phone, and make sure its running lol
[15:40] <coz_> BUGabundo,  are you running unity desktop?
[15:40] <BUGabundo> no
[15:40] <BUGabundo> classic
[15:40] <coz_> oh
[15:40] <coz_> BUGabundo,  oh ok
[15:40] <vish> BUGabundo: well, if compiz is running unity should work.. (mostly) i remember you error and you just need to fix the gconf and you get unity working..
[15:40] <coz_> BUGabundo,  let me try compiz from terminal see if it restarts
[15:40] <vish> your*
[15:41] <BUGabundo> $ psx compi
[15:41] <BUGabundo> 1000     18971  0.0  0.0  11352   884 pts/1    S+   15:41   0:00 grep --color=auto compi
[15:41] <BUGabundo> I guess not
[15:41] <BUGabundo> lol
[15:43] <coz_> BUGabundo,  is the unity plugin enabled?
[15:43] <charlie-tca> vish, is that a new install from today using the alternate image?
[15:43] <vish> charlie-tca: yea, new install from 24's image..
[15:43] <BUGabundo> coz_: I think so
[15:43] <BUGabundo> let me start cssm manually and check
[15:43] <vish> charlie-tca: not alternate..
[15:44] <charlie-tca> desktop cd is working, alternate cd will not install
[15:44] <BUGabundo> bahhhh
[15:44] <coz_> BUGabundo,   if you are in classic gnome its likely unity plugin is disabled
[15:44] <BUGabundo> ccsm lost all my settings
[15:44] <BUGabundo> AGAIN
[15:44] <BUGabundo> :(
[15:44] <coz_> oooo
[15:44] <Martiini> anyone know how to force dpkg install packages .. dpkg -i --force-all .. doesnt seem to work
[15:44] <coz_> anyone in the process of packaging the plugins-extra...?
[15:45] <Martiini> crimsun, U chinese ? Chen
[15:46] <coz_> Martiini,  not sure  try    dpkg --force-help
[15:46] <penguin42> Martiini: Why does it need the force?
[15:46] <crimsun> Martiini: I'm "crimsun" :)
[15:47] <Martiini> penguin42, natty upgrade went bad .. as alpha upgrades do ..
[15:47] <Martiini> about 40 packages fail to install
[15:47] <penguin42> Martiini: If the --force-all is failing the problem is something else that the installation of the package is trying to use probably
[15:48] <coz_> Martiini,   just get the alpha cd and clean install it ..yes?
[15:48] <Martiini> no
[15:48] <coz_> :)
[15:48] <Martiini> downgrading back to maverick then .. its only laptop
[15:49] <coz_> darn fingers
[15:49] <coz_> Martiini,  its working as well as its going to work with a clean install ... out of curiosity...why not a clean install?
[15:49]  * penguin42 really could do with debugging the pause he gets during boot on this ---> machine, it was 30 sec on Maverick, it's nearer 85 on Natty, lucid was almost instant
[15:50] <Martiini> honestly .. opensuse is the most pain-free distro out there .. rpm upgrade/downgrade .. no problems ... I just upgraded my opensuse to latest 2.6.37 factory
[15:50] <coz_> penguin42,   mmm :)  according to this    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbkzXiLTk7o
[15:51] <coz_> Martiini,  maybe opensuse is more a kin  to your personality than ubuntu...yes?
[15:52] <Martiini> coz_,  linux is still linux .. rpm just upgrades/downgrades more easily
[15:52] <penguin42> coz_: Hehe - I dunno, I suspect some evil combination of upstart, lvm and udev are conspiring against it - but neither of them are easy to debug during boot; especially since in natty it seems to give a very blank screen during boot
[15:52] <penguin42> Martiini: Many of us prefer ubuntu/debian because we can't stand rpm - it's all preference (and off topic)
[15:52] <coz_> penguin42,  yes I have noticed that blank screen  sometimes several times here at boot
[15:52] <coz_> penguin42,   nvidia?
[15:53] <penguin42> coz_: Nope, radeon hd4350, open driver
[15:53] <coz_> mm
[15:53] <Martiini> u people work for Canonical ?
[15:53] <coz_> Martiini,  I am sure some do
[15:53] <penguin42> coz_: I think they're trying again with grub graphical hand off that
[15:53]  * penguin42 doesn't
[15:55] <Martiini> humans need biological computers .. this silicon binary processor stuff is getting old ..
[15:55] <Martiini> more than 50 years old technology now
[15:55] <penguin42> yeh well, you can fight bugs on those - yuck....
[15:55] <Martiini> DNA programming
[15:56] <Martiini> Masters degree in DNA programming and bio-IT
[15:56] <penguin42> Martiini: Can you take it somewhere relevant?
[15:57] <Martiini> homo sapiens .. human monkey
[15:57] <coz_> penguin42,  well at least I know it is not just my system with the blank screen.
[15:58] <penguin42> let me know if you find a bug#
[15:59] <coz_> penguin42,  me?
[15:59] <penguin42> yeh
[16:00] <coz_> penguin42,  sure  no problem.... right now the biggest thing that bothers me is the refuseal of ubuntuone to login from the gui
[16:00] <coz_> rather from   ubuntuone-preferences dialog
[16:01] <penguin42> ah I don't use that
[16:01] <coz_> penguin42,  I rarely use it myself but wanted to test it on natty... apparenlty  the bug has been reported already  I believe
[17:04] <coz_> be back a bit later,,, need to go to store
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[17:31] <BUGabundo> wish me luck
[17:31] <BUGabundo> trying to start compiz
[17:32] <BUGabundo> WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT
[17:32] <BUGabundo> works
[17:32] <BUGabundo> kinda slow and sluggish
[17:32] <billybigrigger> anyone else having problems launching xterm?
[17:32] <BUGabundo> but that's nouevau
[17:32] <BUGabundo> BILLY!!!!!
[17:32] <billybigrigger> happy holidays BUGabundo!!!
[17:32] <BUGabundo> darn
[17:33] <BUGabundo> I'm left with app changer window on top :(
[17:33] <penguin42> app changer?
[17:33] <BUGabundo> application swithcer
[17:34] <BUGabundo> unticking it from CCSM "fixes" it !
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[20:21] <zleap> hi
[20:38] <zleap> hi
[20:39] <scizzo-> hello
[20:40] <zleap> hi just tried to boot a 11.04 live cd, didn';t get very far
[20:42] <nit-wit> zleap, is it a dialy and what happened
[20:43] <zleap> tried to bopt, got past the try ubuntu but, buit then didn't get a desktop
[20:43] <zleap> i could shutdown ok using the keyboard
[20:44] <nit-wit> zleap,do you know the graphic card which one
[20:44] <zleap> old nvidia
[20:44] <zleap> geforce 4,
[20:44] <zleap> works fine with 10.04
[20:45] <holstein> zleap: with compiz?
[20:45] <nit-wit> zleap, try as soon as you power on hold the shift key down at the menu hit f6 tick nomodeset then ctrl+x to boot
[20:46] <nit-wit> holstein, is thst correct boot from the f6?
[20:46] <nit-wit> *that
[20:46] <BUGabundo> [offtopic] need a few ppl to test this for me: http://pipes.yahoo.com/bugabundo/pt2en 
[20:46] <holstein> nit-wit: i cant keep track
[20:46] <holstein> i think so
[20:46] <holstein> that would be like the old 'safe graphics mode'
[20:46] <scizzo-> BUGabundo: link doesn't work
[20:47] <BUGabundo> really?
[20:47]  * BUGabundo looks
[20:47] <BUGabundo> works here :\
[20:47] <BUGabundo> are you sure?
[20:48] <holstein> BUGabundo: im not sure what im looking at
[20:48] <holstein> but i see 'running pipe'
[20:48] <BUGabundo> works fine on firefox and private chromium
[20:48] <nit-wit> holstein, safe graphics probably needs a radeon driver from the xswat ppa  after installing
[20:48] <BUGabundo> holstein: trying to have a µblog porfile with autotranslatd tweets :P
[20:48] <holstein> BUGabundo: :)
[20:49] <holstein> OH
[20:49] <holstein> here it comes...
[20:49] <scizzo-> I can't access the link anyway
[20:49] <holstein> BUGabundo: it took a bit
[20:49] <BUGabundo> bah
[20:49] <holstein> not bad though
[20:49] <holstein> maybe a minute
[20:51] <charlie-tca> Mine seems stuck at pipes too
[20:52] <charlie-tca> I get this: Sorry, the page you requested was not found.
[20:55] <BUGabundo> that's weird
[20:55] <BUGabundo> lots of ppl open it
[20:55] <BUGabundo> still a few don't
[20:56] <BUGabundo> what about http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.info?_id=c9b89e6ed20f89a7c5fb9332f60e107a
[20:56] <holstein> charlie-tca: what browser ?
[20:56]  * holstein is on chromium
[20:56] <BUGabundo> chromium and FF 3.6 work fine here
[20:56] <scizzo-> BUGabundo: that page works
[20:57] <charlie-tca> ff and that page opened
[20:58] <jfi> BUGabundo, http://pipes.yahoo.com/bugabundo/pt2en does not work for ff4
[21:00] <BUGabundo> let me test
[21:00] <BUGabundo> wfm
[21:00] <jfi> ha my irc client try to open ff4 with http://pipes.yahoo.com/bugabundo/pt2en%C2%A0 (note the 2 last chars....) , without it is ok
[21:00] <BUGabundo> bummer,,,,
[21:00] <BUGabundo> http://pipes.yahoo.com/bugabundo/pt2en
[21:00] <BUGabundo> what two chars?
[21:01] <jfi> %C2%A0
[21:01] <BUGabundo> ohh there was something on the 1st paste
[21:01] <jfi> yep
[21:02] <charlie-tca> yup, that one opened too
[21:03] <charlie-tca> there was a space on the end of the link the first time?
[21:03] <jfi> space should be %32
[21:04] <charlie-tca> I don't know, it showed as a blank space here, and backspacing once lets the first link open
[21:05] <jfi> yes http://pipes.yahoo.com/bugabundo/pt2en works with ff4
[21:05] <BUGabundo> ok
[21:05] <BUGabundo> now need to pipe it :D
[21:05] <BUGabundo> its gonna be sweet
[21:06] <BUGabundo> on day, we will all speak our mother language, and everyone else will be able to receive it on theirs
[21:08] <jfi> I did not know pipes.yahoo.com, quite impressive
[21:09] <BUGabundo> I love it
[21:09] <BUGabundo> I use it for a lot of stuff
[21:09] <BUGabundo> hope they don't find out they are running it, and close it as well
[21:15] <speedvin> I need to go bye!
[21:28] <alexander> is there a ubuntu channel for newbs like me
[21:29] <holstein>   #ubuntu-beginners is a good one :)
[21:31] <alexander> ty holstein, i`m trying to figure out if i can synch an iphone in ubuntu
[21:35] <holstein> alexander: music?
[21:37] <alexander> no actual iphone
[21:37] <holstein> right
[21:37] <holstein> you want to sync music?
[21:37] <holstein> to the phone?
[21:37] <holstein> im not really sure how those work anyways
[21:38] <alexander> your better off
[21:38] <holstein> my droid just syncs through my gmail account
[21:38] <alexander> droid is opensource i think
[21:38] <holstein> but most of the media players can easily sync music to any folder
[21:38] <holstein> a directory on a USB drive or whatever
[21:39] <alexander> i should of got a droid
[21:39] <holstein> nah, you'll sort it out :)
[21:39] <alexander> cheers