| kristian-aalborg | hi again | 00:22 |
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| kristian-aalborg | still fighting the spdif thing :( | 00:27 |
| kristian-aalborg | holstein: ping? | 00:27 |
| holstein | hey | 00:27 |
| holstein | you ever get any sound out of there? | 00:27 |
| kristian-aalborg | nope | 00:27 |
| holstein | you might not :/ | 00:27 |
| kristian-aalborg | on mint 10 now... same damn thing | 00:27 |
| holstein | yeah, i wouldnt think anything in mint would have different support really | 00:28 |
| holstein | not in that case | 00:28 |
| holstein | hmmm... | 00:28 |
| holstein | i would say ask in #alsa | 00:29 |
| kristian-aalborg | I'm there already | 00:29 |
| kristian-aalborg | it's not that mint is neccesaryly better supported but it's what I'm used to | 00:30 |
| holstein | yeah, mint is slick | 00:30 |
| holstein | i was just thinking if you could get the thing working in some live CD | 00:31 |
| holstein | you could poke around and learn why its working | 00:31 |
| holstein | kristian-aalborg: what are your plans for that output? | 00:31 |
| holstein | as a pro audio guy, i wouldnt lose sleep over hooking that up in the living room | 00:32 |
| holstein | i mean, it would be nice and clean, but not a deal breaker | 00:32 |
| holstein | and it could be that the D/A converters are better in that card than in the device you're trying to run it to | 00:33 |
| kristian-aalborg | holstein: trust me, it IS a deal breaker for me | 00:36 |
| holstein | you dont have analog inputs on the device? | 00:36 |
| holstein | the reciever? | 00:36 |
| kristian-aalborg | I have 10 meters or so from my box to the receiver - analog sounds awful, I have tried | 00:36 |
| kristian-aalborg | I get a constant hiss with an analog wire | 00:37 |
| holstein | :/ | 00:37 |
| holstein | and you dropped who-knows-what on a 10 meter spdif cable ;) | 00:37 |
| kristian-aalborg | I dropped something like 20 dollars... and the same for the card | 00:38 |
| holstein | kristian-aalborg: have you tried a pulse-audio channel? | 00:38 |
| holstein | kristian-aalborg: oh, thats not too bad then | 00:38 |
| holstein | maybe you can get a better card anyways | 00:38 |
| kristian-aalborg | no, it's a fairly good system once it works | 00:38 |
| holstein | thats better supported | 00:39 |
| kristian-aalborg | I'm not sure where the problem lays - I have a horrible FoxConn MB, it might be to blame | 00:39 |
| holstein | kristian-aalborg: maybe the myth folks? | 00:39 |
| holstein | nah, i bet its just the alsa driver not dealing with all of the card properly | 00:40 |
| holstein | that happens | 00:40 |
| kristian-aalborg | the strange thing is, that in alsamixer, nothing says "IEC958" - it only says s/pdif | 00:41 |
| kristian-aalborg | I'm fairly sure it said the former earlier | 00:41 |
| holstein | kristian-aalborg: you can ask in #opensourcemusicians | 00:42 |
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| bodhizazen | 'lo all | 02:42 |
| bodhizazen | stlsaint, how goes ? | 02:42 |
| pedro3005 | it's bodhizazen ! | 02:43 |
| bodhizazen | Merry Christmas pedro3005 | 02:43 |
| pedro3005 | merry christmas to you too | 02:43 |
| bodhizazen | TY | 02:44 |
| aveilleux | So, I just added the compiz PPA and suddenly running an update causes the system to want to install the KDE libraries. | 02:44 |
| aveilleux | Is there a way for me to determine that's causing that? I kind of need the PPA. | 02:44 |
| bodhizazen | Unless you are tight on HD space, just take the kde libs | 02:45 |
| bodhizazen | IMHO | 02:45 |
| aveilleux | bodhizazen: But why would I do that if there's nothing on my system that needs them? | 02:45 |
| bodhizazen | because compiz wants them and you want compiz | 02:46 |
| bodhizazen | =) | 02:46 |
| bodhizazen | Why is it such a big deal | 02:46 |
| aveilleux | bodhizazen: Because I don't want the KDE libs on my machine? | 02:46 |
| bodhizazen | I personally use enough KDE apps, between k3b and Virtualbox | 02:46 |
| aveilleux | bodhizazen: I don't use any KDE apps. | 02:46 |
| aveilleux | bodhizazen: I want to find out what's suddenly wanting to install it. | 02:47 |
| bodhizazen | It is not as if kde lis are somehow evil or that they will cause problems =) | 02:48 |
| bodhizazen | what does apt-get install compiz -s | 02:48 |
| bodhizazen | show you ? | 02:48 |
| yofel | In those cases I usually use aptitude in interactive mode, mark everything to update, and remove what I don't want from the list again, if something depends on it I get an error at that point | 02:48 |
| aveilleux | bodhizazen: This system is currently being held together with baling wire and duct tape | 02:48 |
| aveilleux | bodhizazen: Compiz has been installed on this system for some time. I don't know why the PPA suddenly wants the KDE libs. | 02:48 |
| bodhizazen | Well why are you then playing with compiz from a ppa ? | 02:49 |
| aveilleux | bodhizazen: Plugins that are available. | 02:49 |
| bodhizazen | I seriously doubt ked libs will do any harm =) | 02:49 |
| bodhizazen | My guess is they want it for some theme or some such, or running compiz in KDE | 02:50 |
| aveilleux | bodhizazen: But my system doesn't use any KDE apps! I consider it a big deal to install libraries I'll never use. | 02:50 |
| holstein | maybe contact the PPA maintainer | 02:50 |
| aveilleux | bodhizazen: It's really weird, ppa-purge'ing the PPA stops the deps from being installed altogether. | 02:52 |
| stlsaint | bodhizazen: sup man | 02:56 |
| bioterror | morning | 02:58 |
| bodhizazen | stlsaint, going to play with squid | 03:02 |
| stlsaint | bodhizazen: left nginx? | 03:05 |
| stlsaint | bioterror: sup man | 03:05 |
| bioterror | dead tired, daughter decided to wakeup 5am | 03:05 |
| bodhizazen | stlsaint, no, not at all | 03:07 |
| stlsaint | lol, oh good | 03:07 |
| bodhizazen | I am going to try squid for something different | 03:07 |
| bodhizazen | ssh tunnel to a squid proxy for web browsing on an unsecured WAP | 03:07 |
| stlsaint | i met a guy who own vps hosting site who had a nginx openvz template! very nice | 03:08 |
| bodhizazen | sweet stlsaint | 03:11 |
| bodhizazen | nginx is very very nice for that | 03:11 |
| stlsaint | ftw | 03:11 |
| bodhizazen | I server out a ton of pages with nginx + 12 mb RAM | 03:12 |
| stlsaint | bodhizazen: but my server took a dump from a power outtage so now in server shopping again smh | 03:12 |
| bodhizazen | I could probably reduce that to 6 mb, but why bother ? lol | 03:12 |
| bodhizazen | stlsaint, need a VPS ? | 03:12 |
| stlsaint | bodhizazen: oh no i had backups, i need server for storage, testing, learning etc etc | 03:13 |
| stlsaint | bodhizazen: thanks of course | 03:13 |
| collin_ | Hello. I am having a problem getting my Conexant internal mic to work | 04:33 |
| BR_ | anyone up in here | 06:01 |
| BR_ | awake | 06:03 |
| bioterror | I am | 06:03 |
| BR_ | what does it mean 'no proprietary drivers are in use on this system | 06:06 |
| bioterror | :D | 06:10 |
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| Unguided | Hello All. Newb questions here. I have a 2 y/o boy. I was wondering if there is a website with the various games available for linux | 16:26 |
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| Unguided | Hello All. I have a 2 y/o at home and i was wondering if their is a website with the available linux games for his age group | 16:32 |
| suprengr | Unguided: wouldn't it be better at that age just to give him the box the computer came in.. he'd probably have more fun if not... / set cbeebies as browser home page - 2/ browse through Ubuntu Software Centre (tuxpaint is prob the best but there are others) | 16:40 |
| Unguided | okay thanks | 16:44 |
| suprengr | ... & tux typng might be a lead on for him in a year or so (perhaps sooner) | 16:44 |
| suprengr | pleasure | 16:44 |
| Karti | Hi all, is it better to give server a fixed IP rather than lock it down to a fixed ip address from within a dhcp server ? Cheers | 17:06 |
| Karti | Just asked in UK....not sure what level teh question was ...sorry | 17:07 |
| holstein | Karti: i suppose the end result is the same | 17:08 |
| holstein | i usually do it on the machine | 17:09 |
| holstein | then if i need to change or reset the router | 17:09 |
| holstein | the setup seems easier | 17:09 |
| Karti | holstein, Just wondered if I should contain myself to working on teh dhcp only rather than worry about amending each new server | 17:09 |
| holstein | i say do what you feel comfortable with | 17:10 |
| Karti | but I suppose it can be just as easy...after all you would remote on to teh server to look at issues | 17:10 |
| Karti | I think to learn ....I may keep to teh server until I am happy | 17:10 |
| * suprengr ponders... "the" is known as and is [in grammar] the definite article - so 'teh' is the dinifate arcitle ??/ ;D | 17:20 | |
| Karti | Just my bad typing as I get older :) | 17:22 |
| holstein | ;) | 17:22 |
| suprengr | a feeling i know well ;) | 17:23 |
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| alexander | anyone know if it possible to set up an iphone in ubuntu | 21:41 |
| holstein | w0w | 21:42 |
| holstein | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone | 21:42 |
| holstein | alexander: ^^ | 21:42 |
| holstein | maybe chew that over til someone comes along | 21:42 |
| stlsaint | what do you mean setup? | 21:43 |
| alexander | cheers holstein that will keep me busy | 21:43 |
| stlsaint | alexander: ?? | 21:43 |
| stlsaint | setup? | 21:43 |
| stlsaint | you mean manage? | 21:43 |
| alexander | yes essentially | 21:43 |
| stlsaint | in comparison with itunes there is nothing that handles in such a manner but banshee/rythmbox are going to get you closes | 21:44 |
| fatharrahman | Hi | 21:45 |
| alexander | yes rythmbox works well to synch music | 21:45 |
| stlsaint | fatharrahman: sup | 21:46 |
| fatharrahman | I want to make a partition in a drive containing windows seven for ubuntu but I dont want to loose the infos of that partition how? | 21:46 |
| aveilleux | fatharrahman: Use a partition manager such as GParted. It uses nondestructive resizing (it moves any data in the partition so you don't lose it) | 21:47 |
| fatharrahman | I did that | 21:47 |
| aveilleux | fatharrahman: I recommend RiP Linux, which contains GParted as well as other helpful tools and is much lighter than the GParted LiveCD | 21:47 |
| fatharrahman | but | 21:47 |
| stlsaint | aveilleux: is RiP cli based? | 21:48 |
| aveilleux | stlsaint: It can be, but it has a graphical mode. | 21:48 |
| fatharrahman | I only got a bootable live usb | 21:48 |
| aveilleux | fatharrahman: the Ubuntu live USB has GParted on it, iirc | 21:48 |
| fatharrahman | when I inter gparted what to choose : change or revert? | 21:49 |
| aveilleux | fatharrahman: What? | 21:50 |
| fatharrahman | to make sure I choose the drive I want then click on change button or revert? | 21:51 |
| aveilleux | fatharrahman: Revert undoes every change you have done so far. | 21:52 |
| fatharrahman | ok | 21:52 |
| fatharrahman | if I choose change (the partition) button , would this choice erase any files in that drive aveilleux | 21:54 |
| aveilleux | fatharrahman: You should have an option to resize the Windows (ntfs) partition. Do that, then create a Linux (ext4) partition and a swap partition. | 21:55 |
| fatharrahman | I don't see that option on gparted do you have a link to a tutorial? please | 21:57 |
| aveilleux | fatharrahman: http://www.howtoforge.com/partitioning_with_gparted | 21:58 |
| alexander | does anyone know if i can use photoshop or dreamweaver in ubuntu | 21:59 |
| aveilleux | alexander: Not natively. They don't work too well in WINE either. | 22:00 |
| alexander | thats what i heard as well | 22:01 |
| fatharrahman | thank you that's very helpful | 22:01 |
| aveilleux | alexander: Do you need to do WYSIWYG editing, or do you go your HTML editing by hand? | 22:01 |
| UndiFineD | alexander, there alternatives in linux | 22:03 |
| alexander | need to do it wysiwyg | 22:03 |
| Duzz | Hey | 22:03 |
| * aveilleux does not like WYSIWYG | 22:04 | |
| UndiFineD | http://www.linuxalt.com/ | 22:04 |
| alexander | is there a ubuntu app to design web pages visually | 22:04 |
| UndiFineD | look that up alexander | 22:04 |
| aveilleux | alexander: Yes. You can use NVU. | 22:04 |
| alexander | ty UndifineD | 22:04 |
| UndiFineD | the best thing, they are free too | 22:05 |
| alexander | i love free | 22:05 |
| aveilleux | alexander: Alternately you can use KompoZer (based on NVU) | 22:05 |
| alexander | nice thanx all | 22:05 |
| Duzz | Im very new to ubuntu and am having an issue where i cant type a password in when trying to use sudo or su | 22:06 |
| aveilleux | alexander: It's important to note that most of the things listed on LinuxAlt as alternatives to DreamWeaver are NOT WYSIWYG | 22:06 |
| UndiFineD | Duzz, what do you do ? | 22:07 |
| aveilleux | Duzz: You will not see the password echoed as asterisks (*). Just type it and hit enter. | 22:07 |
| aveilleux | Duzz: You sort of have to trust yourself to get it right. sudo, gksudo and su all give you more than one chance to get it right. | 22:07 |
| Duzz | ah thanks i must just need more coffee | 22:08 |
| alexander | is AVU wysiwyg aveilleux | 22:11 |
| aveilleux | alexander: NVU is, yes | 22:11 |
| aveilleux | alexander: sudo apt-get install nvu | 22:11 |
| aveilleux | alexander: Whoops, NVU isn't supported anymore. Try KompoZer. | 22:12 |
| aveilleux | alexander: sudo apt-get install kompozer | 22:12 |
| alexander | awesome thanx | 22:12 |
| alexander | oh ok will do | 22:13 |
| morph_ | if u were just starting of with ubuntu - where would u start ? i know the resource pages, but just wonderin if anyone has advice, who might have thought if i'd looked at this when i started it would have helped me out | 22:21 |
| aveilleux | morph_: The best thing to do is just play with it, break it, then learn how to fix it. | 22:22 |
| aveilleux | morph_: It's what we're here for ;-) | 22:22 |
| morph_ | cool fair answer | 22:22 |
| morph_ | ive been playing around with stuff | 22:22 |
| morph_ | cli | 22:22 |
| morph_ | installing etc.. | 22:22 |
| morph_ | i think im trying to get my head round things having come from windows | 22:23 |
| aveilleux | morph_: That's how it usually is, yeah | 22:23 |
| morph_ | anyway | 22:23 |
| morph_ | i shall probably be bothering u with stuff in the future :) | 22:23 |
| aveilleux | morph_: Oh it's no bother, :P | 22:24 |
| ChrisDruif | Sometimes it nice to learn somebody something new :) | 22:25 |
| ChrisDruif | I find joy in that anyway :) | 22:25 |
| Assimilater | hey guys, I'm having issues figuring out how to change my grub boot order. I've search on several forums which tell me to modify files such as /boot/grub/grub.conf, but they don't exist on my my machine. If it helps I installed ubuntu onto my computer using the setup I got on a thumb drive made from pendrive's setup program. | 22:34 |
| aveilleux | Assimilater: Those files are for GRUB < v1.98 (Also known as "GRUB Legacy) | 22:36 |
| aveilleux | ")* | 22:36 |
| Assimilater | aveilleux: how do I figure out which version of grub I have/which files to edit? | 22:37 |
| aveilleux | Assimilater: If you installed anything later than 9.04, you're running Grub2 | 22:38 |
| aveilleux | Assimilater: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 | 22:38 |
| aveilleux | Assimilater: The easiest way to configure GRUB is to use Startup Manager (sudo apt-get install startupmanager [in the Terminal]) | 22:40 |
| Assimilater | aveilleux: you read my mind...I was about to ask where the startup manager was :P | 22:40 |
| Assimilater | We'll see if that works (I suspect it will) Thanks | 22:43 |
| nit-wit | Assimilater, what is on the computer as of now | 22:44 |
| nit-wit | doh just left | 22:44 |
| aveilleux | nit-wit: Awww :c | 22:44 |
| nit-wit | aveilleux, I have W7 and 3 linux set up I just make sure grub is running from the most stable one. | 22:45 |
| nit-wit | no natty control at this point | 22:46 |
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