[00:22] hi again [00:27] still fighting the spdif thing :( [00:27] holstein: ping? [00:27] hey [00:27] you ever get any sound out of there? [00:27] nope [00:27] you might not :/ [00:27] on mint 10 now... same damn thing [00:28] yeah, i wouldnt think anything in mint would have different support really [00:28] not in that case [00:28] hmmm... [00:29] i would say ask in #alsa [00:29] I'm there already [00:30] it's not that mint is neccesaryly better supported but it's what I'm used to [00:30] yeah, mint is slick [00:31] i was just thinking if you could get the thing working in some live CD [00:31] you could poke around and learn why its working [00:31] kristian-aalborg: what are your plans for that output? [00:32] as a pro audio guy, i wouldnt lose sleep over hooking that up in the living room [00:32] i mean, it would be nice and clean, but not a deal breaker [00:33] and it could be that the D/A converters are better in that card than in the device you're trying to run it to [00:36] holstein: trust me, it IS a deal breaker for me [00:36] you dont have analog inputs on the device? [00:36] the reciever? [00:36] I have 10 meters or so from my box to the receiver - analog sounds awful, I have tried [00:37] I get a constant hiss with an analog wire [00:37] :/ [00:37] and you dropped who-knows-what on a 10 meter spdif cable ;) [00:38] I dropped something like 20 dollars... and the same for the card [00:38] kristian-aalborg: have you tried a pulse-audio channel? [00:38] kristian-aalborg: oh, thats not too bad then [00:38] maybe you can get a better card anyways [00:38] no, it's a fairly good system once it works [00:39] thats better supported [00:39] I'm not sure where the problem lays - I have a horrible FoxConn MB, it might be to blame [00:39] kristian-aalborg: maybe the myth folks? [00:40] nah, i bet its just the alsa driver not dealing with all of the card properly [00:40] that happens [00:41] the strange thing is, that in alsamixer, nothing says "IEC958" - it only says s/pdif [00:41] I'm fairly sure it said the former earlier [00:42] kristian-aalborg: you can ask in #opensourcemusicians === Guest98797 is now known as JoeMaverickSett [02:42] 'lo all [02:42] stlsaint, how goes ? [02:43] it's bodhizazen ! [02:43] Merry Christmas pedro3005 [02:43] merry christmas to you too [02:44] TY [02:44] So, I just added the compiz PPA and suddenly running an update causes the system to want to install the KDE libraries. [02:44] Is there a way for me to determine that's causing that? I kind of need the PPA. [02:45] Unless you are tight on HD space, just take the kde libs [02:45] IMHO [02:45] bodhizazen: But why would I do that if there's nothing on my system that needs them? [02:46] because compiz wants them and you want compiz [02:46] =) [02:46] Why is it such a big deal [02:46] bodhizazen: Because I don't want the KDE libs on my machine? [02:46] I personally use enough KDE apps, between k3b and Virtualbox [02:46] bodhizazen: I don't use any KDE apps. [02:47] bodhizazen: I want to find out what's suddenly wanting to install it. [02:48] It is not as if kde lis are somehow evil or that they will cause problems =) [02:48] what does apt-get install compiz -s [02:48] show you ? [02:48] In those cases I usually use aptitude in interactive mode, mark everything to update, and remove what I don't want from the list again, if something depends on it I get an error at that point [02:48] bodhizazen: This system is currently being held together with baling wire and duct tape [02:48] bodhizazen: Compiz has been installed on this system for some time. I don't know why the PPA suddenly wants the KDE libs. [02:49] Well why are you then playing with compiz from a ppa ? [02:49] bodhizazen: Plugins that are available. [02:49] I seriously doubt ked libs will do any harm =) [02:50] My guess is they want it for some theme or some such, or running compiz in KDE [02:50] bodhizazen: But my system doesn't use any KDE apps! I consider it a big deal to install libraries I'll never use. [02:50] maybe contact the PPA maintainer [02:52] bodhizazen: It's really weird, ppa-purge'ing the PPA stops the deps from being installed altogether. [02:56] bodhizazen: sup man [02:58] morning [03:02] stlsaint, going to play with squid [03:05] bodhizazen: left nginx? [03:05] bioterror: sup man [03:05] dead tired, daughter decided to wakeup 5am [03:07] stlsaint, no, not at all [03:07] lol, oh good [03:07] I am going to try squid for something different [03:07] ssh tunnel to a squid proxy for web browsing on an unsecured WAP [03:08] i met a guy who own vps hosting site who had a nginx openvz template! very nice [03:11] sweet stlsaint [03:11] nginx is very very nice for that [03:11] ftw [03:12] I server out a ton of pages with nginx + 12 mb RAM [03:12] bodhizazen: but my server took a dump from a power outtage so now in server shopping again smh [03:12] I could probably reduce that to 6 mb, but why bother ? lol [03:12] stlsaint, need a VPS ? [03:13] bodhizazen: oh no i had backups, i need server for storage, testing, learning etc etc [03:13] bodhizazen: thanks of course [04:33] Hello. I am having a problem getting my Conexant internal mic to work [06:01] anyone up in here [06:03] awake [06:03] I am [06:06] what does it mean 'no proprietary drivers are in use on this system [06:10] :D === shadeslayer_ is now known as shadeslayer === yofel_ is now known as yofel === Vetinari_ is now known as Vetinari === haakoo_ is now known as haakoo === swordfish is now known as genupulas [16:26] Hello All. Newb questions here. I have a 2 y/o boy. I was wondering if there is a website with the various games available for linux === Unguided_ is now known as Unguided [16:32] Hello All. I have a 2 y/o at home and i was wondering if their is a website with the available linux games for his age group [16:40] Unguided: wouldn't it be better at that age just to give him the box the computer came in.. he'd probably have more fun if not... / set cbeebies as browser home page - 2/ browse through Ubuntu Software Centre (tuxpaint is prob the best but there are others) [16:44] okay thanks [16:44] ... & tux typng might be a lead on for him in a year or so (perhaps sooner) [16:44] pleasure [17:06] Hi all, is it better to give server a fixed IP rather than lock it down to a fixed ip address from within a dhcp server ? Cheers [17:07] Just asked in UK....not sure what level teh question was ...sorry [17:08] Karti: i suppose the end result is the same [17:09] i usually do it on the machine [17:09] then if i need to change or reset the router [17:09] the setup seems easier [17:09] holstein, Just wondered if I should contain myself to working on teh dhcp only rather than worry about amending each new server [17:10] i say do what you feel comfortable with [17:10] but I suppose it can be just as easy...after all you would remote on to teh server to look at issues [17:10] I think to learn ....I may keep to teh server until I am happy [17:20] * suprengr ponders... "the" is known as and is [in grammar] the definite article - so 'teh' is the dinifate arcitle ??/ ;D [17:22] Just my bad typing as I get older :) [17:22] ;) [17:23] a feeling i know well ;) === karthick1987 is now known as karthick87 [21:41] anyone know if it possible to set up an iphone in ubuntu [21:42] w0w [21:42] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone [21:42] alexander: ^^ [21:42] maybe chew that over til someone comes along [21:43] what do you mean setup? [21:43] cheers holstein that will keep me busy [21:43] alexander: ?? [21:43] setup? [21:43] you mean manage? [21:43] yes essentially [21:44] in comparison with itunes there is nothing that handles in such a manner but banshee/rythmbox are going to get you closes [21:45] Hi [21:45] yes rythmbox works well to synch music [21:46] fatharrahman: sup [21:46] I want to make a partition in a drive containing windows seven for ubuntu but I dont want to loose the infos of that partition how? [21:47] fatharrahman: Use a partition manager such as GParted. It uses nondestructive resizing (it moves any data in the partition so you don't lose it) [21:47] I did that [21:47] fatharrahman: I recommend RiP Linux, which contains GParted as well as other helpful tools and is much lighter than the GParted LiveCD [21:47] but [21:48] aveilleux: is RiP cli based? [21:48] stlsaint: It can be, but it has a graphical mode. [21:48] I only got a bootable live usb [21:48] fatharrahman: the Ubuntu live USB has GParted on it, iirc [21:49] when I inter gparted what to choose : change or revert? [21:50] fatharrahman: What? [21:51] to make sure I choose the drive I want then click on change button or revert? [21:52] fatharrahman: Revert undoes every change you have done so far. [21:52] ok [21:54] if I choose change (the partition) button , would this choice erase any files in that drive aveilleux [21:55] fatharrahman: You should have an option to resize the Windows (ntfs) partition. Do that, then create a Linux (ext4) partition and a swap partition. [21:57] I don't see that option on gparted do you have a link to a tutorial? please [21:58] fatharrahman: http://www.howtoforge.com/partitioning_with_gparted [21:59] does anyone know if i can use photoshop or dreamweaver in ubuntu [22:00] alexander: Not natively. They don't work too well in WINE either. [22:01] thats what i heard as well [22:01] thank you that's very helpful [22:01] alexander: Do you need to do WYSIWYG editing, or do you go your HTML editing by hand? [22:03] alexander, there alternatives in linux [22:03] need to do it wysiwyg [22:03] Hey [22:04] * aveilleux does not like WYSIWYG [22:04] http://www.linuxalt.com/ [22:04] is there a ubuntu app to design web pages visually [22:04] look that up alexander [22:04] alexander: Yes. You can use NVU. [22:04] ty UndifineD [22:05] the best thing, they are free too [22:05] i love free [22:05] alexander: Alternately you can use KompoZer (based on NVU) [22:05] nice thanx all [22:06] Im very new to ubuntu and am having an issue where i cant type a password in when trying to use sudo or su [22:06] alexander: It's important to note that most of the things listed on LinuxAlt as alternatives to DreamWeaver are NOT WYSIWYG [22:07] Duzz, what do you do ? [22:07] Duzz: You will not see the password echoed as asterisks (*). Just type it and hit enter. [22:07] Duzz: You sort of have to trust yourself to get it right. sudo, gksudo and su all give you more than one chance to get it right. [22:08] ah thanks i must just need more coffee [22:11] is AVU wysiwyg aveilleux [22:11] alexander: NVU is, yes [22:11] alexander: sudo apt-get install nvu [22:12] alexander: Whoops, NVU isn't supported anymore. Try KompoZer. [22:12] alexander: sudo apt-get install kompozer [22:12] awesome thanx [22:13] oh ok will do [22:21] if u were just starting of with ubuntu - where would u start ? i know the resource pages, but just wonderin if anyone has advice, who might have thought if i'd looked at this when i started it would have helped me out [22:22] morph_: The best thing to do is just play with it, break it, then learn how to fix it. [22:22] morph_: It's what we're here for ;-) [22:22] cool fair answer [22:22] ive been playing around with stuff [22:22] cli [22:22] installing etc.. [22:23] i think im trying to get my head round things having come from windows [22:23] morph_: That's how it usually is, yeah [22:23] anyway [22:23] i shall probably be bothering u with stuff in the future :) [22:24] morph_: Oh it's no bother, :P [22:25] Sometimes it nice to learn somebody something new :) [22:25] I find joy in that anyway :) [22:34] hey guys, I'm having issues figuring out how to change my grub boot order. I've search on several forums which tell me to modify files such as /boot/grub/grub.conf, but they don't exist on my my machine. If it helps I installed ubuntu onto my computer using the setup I got on a thumb drive made from pendrive's setup program. [22:36] Assimilater: Those files are for GRUB < v1.98 (Also known as "GRUB Legacy) [22:36] ")* [22:37] aveilleux: how do I figure out which version of grub I have/which files to edit? [22:38] Assimilater: If you installed anything later than 9.04, you're running Grub2 [22:38] Assimilater: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [22:40] Assimilater: The easiest way to configure GRUB is to use Startup Manager (sudo apt-get install startupmanager [in the Terminal]) [22:40] aveilleux: you read my mind...I was about to ask where the startup manager was :P [22:43] We'll see if that works (I suspect it will) Thanks [22:44] Assimilater, what is on the computer as of now [22:44] doh just left [22:44] nit-wit: Awww :c [22:45] aveilleux, I have W7 and 3 linux set up I just make sure grub is running from the most stable one. [22:46] no natty control at this point === szczur_ is now known as szczur