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| IdleOne | txdv is not very helpful with his on topic comments | 01:16 |
| IdleOne | is this holiday over yet? | 01:18 |
| IdleOne | I'm beat | 01:18 |
| jpds | bazhang: He's not responding to my argument in /msg (r007). | 02:15 |
| bazhang | jpds, well you are the most knowledgeable about this, thanks for the effort | 02:15 |
| jpds | Not really. | 02:15 |
| bazhang | I just know the various !rootsudo bot commands, to be honest | 02:16 |
| IdleOne | I never understood the whole enabling root argument, why not just use the OS the way it was designed to be used. | 02:17 |
| IdleOne | Ubuntu is meant to be used with sudo. just use sudo I figure | 02:18 |
| jpds | 02:19:47 <~r007> admin ie the admistrator of the syestem against a user a sudoer | 02:20 |
| jpds | 02:20:06 <jpds> I classify a sudoer as an admin user. | 02:20 |
| jpds | 02:20:24 <~r007> thats why your a noob | 02:20 |
| bazhang | hehe | 02:20 |
| IdleOne | ha | 02:21 |
| IdleOne | you got told | 02:21 |
| bazhang | I remember when jpds was jpatrick | 02:21 |
| bazhang | eons ago! | 02:21 |
| jpds | The days my life was relatively tax-free. | 02:21 |
| bazhang | heh | 02:21 |
| jpds | I really don't get his argument. | 02:23 |
| jpds | Anyway, life's too short. | 02:23 |
| bazhang | not really interested in him continuing to debate it after repeatedly being asked to move on | 02:26 |
| jpds | Oh, my trolling backfired. | 02:31 |
| jpds | Damn. | 02:31 |
| bazhang | :0 | 02:31 |
| bazhang | last call for r0007 | 02:32 |
| jpds | Guy needs some serious spelling lessons. | 02:34 |
| IdleOne | to many trolls. /me goes off to develop a nuclear troll remover device thingymajig | 02:38 |
| jpds | IdleOne: But if they could be turned, they could become powerful allies. | 02:39 |
| IdleOne | jpds: I agree but at this moment I don't have the energy to try and get them to work with us | 02:39 |
| IdleOne | nuke em all and we can grow new ones later | 02:39 |
| IdleOne | Hehe, I just found a folder with media I had forgotten about :) | 02:53 |
| IdleOne | Merry Xmas to me from me | 02:53 |
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| bazhang | yech | 07:50 |
| Myrtti | lolwaitwhat? | 07:57 |
| Myrtti | he doesn't even know how to program on the language the projects are using? | 07:57 |
| Myrtti | he really is back firing | 07:58 |
| bazhang | I was talking about vijaykumar and the 'i love you mary' in #ubuntu | 07:58 |
| Myrtti | I know | 07:59 |
| bazhang | ok | 07:59 |
| bazhang | he's crossposting it in ##windows and ##linux and giving grief there as well | 08:39 |
| Jordan_U | And here I had joined ##windows and was going to help him. | 08:41 |
| bazhang | windows dont distribute iso afaik | 08:41 |
| Jordan_U | It can be done. I've never done it myself but I've seen guides for it. | 08:43 |
| bazhang | seems illegal frankly | 08:44 |
| Jordan_U | Of course it's nothing like creating a Linux LiveUSB. | 08:44 |
| Jordan_U | bazhang: People need to be able to install windows on netbooks too, and telling them that they need to buy or borrow a USB CDROM drive just doesn't cut it. | 08:45 |
| bazhang | Jordan_U, indeedy. but hardly an issue for #ubuntu . | 08:45 |
| AlanBell | hi all, and happy christmas | 10:08 |
| AlanBell | the topic in #ubuntu-uk was changed last night and I can't see how | 10:09 |
| AlanBell | 02:41 -!- oppla changed the topic of #ubuntu-uk to: Welcome to #ubuntu-uk! http://ubuntu-uk.org | This channel is publicly archived: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Mailing List: http://tinyurl.com/uukml | Support Guidelines - http://tinyurl.com/uuksupport | Meeting Thursday December 30th 21:00 GMT in #ubuntu-uk-meeting http://tinyurl.com/uukmeet | Happy Winterval \o/ | 10:12 |
| AlanBell | 02:41 >> OpenURL 15 | 10:12 |
| AlanBell | 02:42 CTCP AVATAR reply from oppla in channel #ubuntu-uk: ? | 10:12 |
| AlanBell | -!- Topic set by oppla [~oppla@sertolovo-75.ptspb.ru] [Sun Dec 26 02:41:51 2010] | 10:13 |
| AlanBell | I can't see any evil in there | 10:13 |
| AlanBell | but how did a random .ru user change the topic? | 10:14 |
| popey | because the channel isn't +t | 10:21 |
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| AlanBell | ah ok | 11:50 |
| bazhang | * [spicemaster] (~ss@122.161.162.59): Juke jungli again evaded then parted, had him in PM and then he exited | 12:31 |
| gnomefreak | IIRC i unbanned him last week since it was an old ban. sorry, figured he would be good | 12:32 |
| gnomefreak | but i think the ban was in this channel | 12:32 |
| bazhang | gnomefreak, ah then not banned, my mistake | 12:33 |
| gnomefreak | bazhang: just in here IIRC i never set a ban in other channels | 12:33 |
| bazhang | gnomefreak, not an issue in #ubuntu from what I could tell, so no harm done | 12:33 |
| gnomefreak | k | 12:33 |
| bazhang | gnomefreak, ah okay | 12:33 |
| gnomefreak | since he has been a problem im all for keeping him out of most channels assuming he cant behave | 12:34 |
| bazhang | agreed. hopefully he can behave though | 12:35 |
| gnomefreak | bazhang: hes in #u? | 12:36 |
| bazhang | gnomefreak, briefly was, asked a support question, then parted | 12:37 |
| gnomefreak | k | 12:37 |
| bazhang | night all | 12:58 |
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| ubottu | In #ubuntu, home said: !me is testing not me :P | 16:06 |
| IdleOne | nhandler: did you get my Pm from earlier? you pinged out just after I sent them | 18:19 |
| IdleOne | PM | 18:19 |
| trojan_spike | ? | 20:02 |
| mneptok | trojan_spike: helping people figure out what is happening with their Windows installations or partitions is admirable, but offtopic for #ubuntu | 20:02 |
| trojan_spike | mneptok, not when the problem is caused by ubuntu,, it would be a differ story the cause was from m-soft | 20:03 |
| mneptok | when you get to the point of asking, "what Windows version are you running?" you have gotten deep enough into another operating system's problems to warrant moving the subject off-channel | 20:04 |
| mneptok | the user was having problems installing Ubuntu | 20:04 |
| mneptok | "what version of Windows are you running?" is not going to help with that issue. | 20:05 |
| trojan_spike | what do u want me to say then,, 'sorry,, ubuntu made the error' but i cant help you get up and going??/ look im helping him because its happened myself and others.. | 20:05 |
| mneptok | so go discuss it in ##windows or PM (which you started to do) | 20:05 |
| mneptok | Prodego / sepehr: do you need help from the ops team? | 20:06 |
| trojan_spike | lol,, not from you.. really up urself | 20:06 |
| Prodego | mneptok: possibly for someone else, I'm still trying to figure out what their problem is exactly :) | 20:07 |
| mneptok | trojan_spike: excuse me? | 20:07 |
| Prodego | it is looking like I won't | 20:07 |
| mneptok | Prodego: OK, we have a no-idle policy. so when you know for sure .... :) | 20:07 |
| trojan_spike | mneptok, i dont want help from you.. because you are really up your self | 20:07 |
| mneptok | trojan_spike: that attitude is not going to help. | 20:08 |
| Prodego | mneptok: sure, just in case, you wouldn't happen to know who the #ubuntu GC is? | 20:08 |
| mneptok | trojan_spike: as i said, "Ubuntu support only" is not a channel guideline i made. but the ops team is responsible for enforcing it. | 20:08 |
| sepehr | mneptok: thank you for your attention, we had problems at #ubuntu-ir a couple of weeks ago which has no OP in, so I was trying to findout how can we work around the problem. | 20:08 |
| trojan_spike | you made a mountain out of a mole hill.. Its a common problem,, u just hear windows and get all nancy | 20:09 |
| mneptok | sepehr: for LoCo channel issues, you should ask for help in #ubuntu-irc | 20:09 |
| trojan_spike | look,, not in the mood for an argument.. Gona leave ya to it | 20:09 |
| mneptok | trojan_spike: are you saying that you'll continue to discuss Windows issues in #ubuntu? | 20:09 |
| trojan_spike | OMG | 20:10 |
| sepehr | mneptok: thank you | 20:10 |
| mneptok | trojan_spike: i'm telling you there are guidelines, and what they are. you are in no way acknowledging that. | 20:10 |
| mneptok | trojan_spike: "shoot the messenger" is not a good tactic when reminded of IRC guidelines | 20:11 |
| trojan_spike | a i not | 20:11 |
| trojan_spike | am i not? | 20:11 |
| trojan_spike | and u would now that how? | 20:11 |
| mneptok | know it's not a good tactic? | 20:11 |
| trojan_spike | k | 20:11 |
| mneptok | know *what* how? | 20:12 |
| trojan_spike | just give some consideration as to what and why im doing something,, instead of jumping the gun.. I know ubuntu is for ubuntu / windows for windows etc etc.. | 20:12 |
| mneptok | i did give you consideration. i asked you to stop, instead of muting or banning you. i was glad to see you take the conversation to PM. i was not happy you chose to argue about the channel policies. | 20:13 |
| trojan_spike | Its because i know im right in what i said,, its a common problem and both ubuntu and windows will say take it to the other one.. | 20:15 |
| mneptok | the channel policy is Ubuntu support only. | 20:16 |
| mneptok | i said this before. | 20:16 |
| trojan_spike | Anyway,, water under the bridge.. I respect that your doing what you have to do..;) | 20:16 |
| mneptok | best bet, when it treads into another OS, take it to PM. which i think you now know. | 20:16 |
| mneptok | if ops miss things on-channel, you dodge a bullet. but when one of us has window focus, you'll get reminded (as will anyone else). | 20:18 |
| mneptok | IMO that's all needs be said. | 20:18 |
| trojan_spike | kk,, I'll keep helpin when some1 needs it.. | 20:19 |
| mneptok | i will return to cleaning vomited cat furballs from the floor of our sun porch. | 20:19 |
| mneptok | ain't vacations grand? | 20:19 |
| trojan_spike | :) | 20:19 |
| ubottu | FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (BajK_ appears to be abusive - 4) | 20:57 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu-bots, AnggaDj98 said: ubottu who is here? | 23:06 |
| IdleOne | Amaranth: I have an issue with the word shit. please make him stop. | 23:26 |
| ryaxnb | hello IdleOne | 23:28 |
| ryaxnb | IdleOne, | 23:29 |
| IdleOne | ryaxnb: listen to me. This discussion is over. DON"T USE the word shit. | 23:29 |
| ryaxnb | no, this is not over. | 23:29 |
| IdleOne | clear? | 23:29 |
| IdleOne | it is | 23:29 |
| ryaxnb | i already said i wont use the word shit. | 23:29 |
| IdleOne | I am not talking about it. it is a foul word and not acceptable. | 23:29 |
| ryaxnb | and shit, why are we still using this word, even in the op channel. | 23:29 |
| IdleOne | final. | 23:29 |
| ryaxnb | fine. | 23:29 |
| IdleOne | because I need to spell it out for you. | 23:29 |
| ryaxnb | i already said i wont use the word and havent used it in some time, except right now as a point | 23:30 |
| ryaxnb | because unlike me, youve said it 3 times now | 23:30 |
| IdleOne | fine. then stop arguing because you are wrong. | 23:30 |
| ryaxnb | i am not wrong because im not arguing; shit is not acceptable in the channel | 23:30 |
| Amaranth | *sigh* | 23:30 |
| ryaxnb | but the other words are, thank you very much | 23:30 |
| IdleOne | there is no discussing the rule. your point of view about the PG is wrong. G rated is acceptable that is it. | 23:30 |
| ryaxnb | my point of view is not wrong and if i want to i could find a g rated movie that uses most of those words | 23:31 |
| ryaxnb | grow up, are you afraid the use of insults makes it too easy to insult someone or something, because i can find other ways of doing that, like comparisons | 23:31 |
| ryaxnb | this is ridicoulous. | 23:31 |
| IdleOne | troll | 23:32 |
| IdleOne | go away. | 23:32 |
| ryaxnb | no | 23:32 |
| IdleOne | you bore me | 23:32 |
| ryaxnb | i _like_ you as an op | 23:32 |
| IdleOne | I don't like you right now. | 23:32 |
| ryaxnb | and i accept not using the "real" swear words because they hinder the message i try to get across with bad language | 23:32 |
| * IdleOne is stepping away | 23:32 | |
| ryaxnb | IdleOne, dont do that! | 23:32 |
| ryaxnb | but if i cant use anything, it also hinders my messsage even more | 23:33 |
| ryaxnb | thus, i need to be able to get my message across, using acceptable language | 23:33 |
| ryaxnb | that is all i require, not swearing | 23:33 |
| ryaxnb | :) | 23:33 |
| ryaxnb | and im staying in this channel until you come back to comment a bit more about it. (or some other op does) you cant exit a conversation because youre losing | 23:34 |
| IdleOne | has nothing to do with winning or losing, it has everything to do with the rules we have all agreed to follow by using Ubuntu IRC channels. | 23:36 |
| ryaxnb | i am agreeing to follow _those rules_ | 23:36 |
| ryaxnb | as amaranth mentioned, other ops have decreed that those rules do not include PG level swearing | 23:36 |
| IdleOne | so why did it take me having to bring it up twice and Amaranth once before you finally decided to agree | 23:37 |
| ryaxnb | you are interpeting the rules differently and thus it is not neccesairly the rules i am not following | 23:37 |
| ryaxnb | because ^ | 23:37 |
| Amaranth | ryaxnb: Those other ops get yelled at all the time because _they_ aren't following the rules | 23:37 |
| ryaxnb | i agree to follow "the rules" | 23:37 |
| tonyyarusso | ryaxnb: That's not how it works. IdleOne is stepping back because this has gotten "personal", so it's time for him to become uninvolved. I would be happy to try to pick up for him, but unfortunately I'm headed out the door this moment. Feel free to chill for a moment longer, but if nobody else looks alive within a few minutes, place part and return another time to poke around and see if there's someone available to discuss this ... | 23:37 |
| tonyyarusso | ... with you. | 23:37 |
| tonyyarusso | g'night! | 23:37 |
| Amaranth | ryaxnb: I'm not saying what IdleOne says aren't the rules, I'm saying they are selectively enforced (which is another problem) | 23:38 |
| ryaxnb | IdleOne is unfortunately stepping out becuase it is getting personal because he is wrong. | 23:38 |
| IdleOne | I am not wrong | 23:38 |
| ryaxnb | but this is a stupid argument because these rules are rarely enforced even by idle one. | 23:38 |
| Amaranth | afaik IdleOne can't enforce those rules in #ubuntu-offtopic | 23:38 |
| ryaxnb | not once have i been called out for using crap, damn etc so long as i dont use anything stronger | 23:38 |
| ryaxnb | again, not one person | 23:39 |
| ryaxnb | idleone or not | 23:39 |
| Amaranth | I've been called out for using wtf and damn because those are against the rules | 23:39 |
| IdleOne | I don't have to have +o in a channel to tell you that you are breaking a rule | 23:39 |
| ryaxnb | those "selectively enforced" rules... ive never seen anyone tell anyone that that breaks the rules until now | 23:39 |
| Amaranth | However most of the time it will depend on the context and the op | 23:39 |
| ryaxnb | im not taking +o | 23:39 |
| ryaxnb | ive never seen anyone _warned_ about damn or crap | 23:39 |
| ryaxnb | you have to at least say wtf. | 23:39 |
| IdleOne | I didn't say anything about the word damn | 23:39 |
| ryaxnb | you did about crap and frak. | 23:40 |
| ryaxnb | frak has two letters in common with the other word. | 23:40 |
| IdleOne | yup because the word "shit" is vulgar | 23:40 |
| ryaxnb | so poo is too? | 23:40 |
| IdleOne | you didn't use crap. I would of let crap slide | 23:40 |
| ryaxnb | violating your own rules-- poo appears in G rated movies. | 23:40 |
| ryaxnb | i did use crap at one point. | 23:40 |
| ryaxnb | i also used frak | 23:40 |
| IdleOne | but excessive use of the word crap could be wrong also | 23:41 |
| ryaxnb | my view on frak is that frak is simply a loud minor swear that sounds good | 23:41 |
| ryaxnb | words with f and k seemt to sound gooda | 23:41 |
| IdleOne | you know what. I am done. do what you want. I am not an op there. | 23:41 |
| ryaxnb | and the company name fcuk has a heck of a lot more in common than frak with the bad word | 23:41 |
| IdleOne | sorry for disrupting your excessive monologue. | 23:41 |
| ryaxnb | so good god | 23:41 |
| IdleOne | later | 23:41 |
| ryaxnb | later | 23:41 |
| IdleOne | no sense staying on a sinking ship. | 23:43 |
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