[00:34] FloodBot4 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join (1325 users, 2 overflows, 1327 limit)) [00:34] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join (1306 users, 5 overflows, 1311 limit)) [00:34] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join (1286 users, 6 overflows, 1292 limit)) [00:34] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join (1323 users, 7 overflows, 1330 limit)) === apachelogger is now known as doctorlogger === kloeri_ is now known as kloeri [01:16] txdv is not very helpful with his on topic comments [01:18] is this holiday over yet? [01:18] I'm beat [02:15] bazhang: He's not responding to my argument in /msg (r007). [02:15] jpds, well you are the most knowledgeable about this, thanks for the effort [02:15] Not really. [02:16] I just know the various !rootsudo bot commands, to be honest [02:17] I never understood the whole enabling root argument, why not just use the OS the way it was designed to be used. [02:18] Ubuntu is meant to be used with sudo. just use sudo I figure [02:20] 02:19:47 <~r007> admin ie the admistrator of the syestem against a user a sudoer [02:20] 02:20:06 I classify a sudoer as an admin user. [02:20] 02:20:24 <~r007> thats why your a noob [02:20] hehe [02:21] ha [02:21] you got told [02:21] I remember when jpds was jpatrick [02:21] eons ago! [02:21] The days my life was relatively tax-free. [02:21] heh [02:23] I really don't get his argument. [02:23] Anyway, life's too short. [02:26] not really interested in him continuing to debate it after repeatedly being asked to move on [02:31] Oh, my trolling backfired. [02:31] Damn. [02:31] :0 [02:32] last call for r0007 [02:34] Guy needs some serious spelling lessons. [02:38] to many trolls. /me goes off to develop a nuclear troll remover device thingymajig [02:39] IdleOne: But if they could be turned, they could become powerful allies. [02:39] jpds: I agree but at this moment I don't have the energy to try and get them to work with us [02:39] nuke em all and we can grow new ones later [02:53] Hehe, I just found a folder with media I had forgotten about :) [02:53] Merry Xmas to me from me === jpds is now known as Guest12343 [07:50] yech [07:57] lolwaitwhat? [07:57] he doesn't even know how to program on the language the projects are using? [07:58] he really is back firing [07:58] I was talking about vijaykumar and the 'i love you mary' in #ubuntu [07:59] I know [07:59] ok [08:39] he's crossposting it in ##windows and ##linux and giving grief there as well [08:41] And here I had joined ##windows and was going to help him. [08:41] windows dont distribute iso afaik [08:43] It can be done. I've never done it myself but I've seen guides for it. [08:44] seems illegal frankly [08:44] Of course it's nothing like creating a Linux LiveUSB. [08:45] bazhang: People need to be able to install windows on netbooks too, and telling them that they need to buy or borrow a USB CDROM drive just doesn't cut it. [08:45] Jordan_U, indeedy. but hardly an issue for #ubuntu . [10:08] hi all, and happy christmas [10:09] the topic in #ubuntu-uk was changed last night and I can't see how [10:12] 02:41 -!- oppla changed the topic of #ubuntu-uk to: Welcome to #ubuntu-uk! http://ubuntu-uk.org | This channel is publicly archived: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Mailing List: http://tinyurl.com/uukml | Support Guidelines - http://tinyurl.com/uuksupport | Meeting Thursday December 30th 21:00 GMT in #ubuntu-uk-meeting http://tinyurl.com/uukmeet | Happy Winterval \o/ [10:12] 02:41 >> OpenURL 15 [10:12] 02:42 CTCP AVATAR reply from oppla in channel #ubuntu-uk: ? [10:13] -!- Topic set by oppla [~oppla@sertolovo-75.ptspb.ru] [Sun Dec 26 02:41:51 2010] [10:13] I can't see any evil in there [10:14] but how did a random .ru user change the topic? [10:21] because the channel isn't +t === gnomefreak76 is now known as gnomefreak [11:50] ah ok [12:31] * [spicemaster] (~ss@122.161.162.59): Juke jungli again evaded then parted, had him in PM and then he exited [12:32] IIRC i unbanned him last week since it was an old ban. sorry, figured he would be good [12:32] but i think the ban was in this channel [12:33] gnomefreak, ah then not banned, my mistake [12:33] bazhang: just in here IIRC i never set a ban in other channels [12:33] gnomefreak, not an issue in #ubuntu from what I could tell, so no harm done [12:33] k [12:33] gnomefreak, ah okay [12:34] since he has been a problem im all for keeping him out of most channels assuming he cant behave [12:35] agreed. hopefully he can behave though [12:36] bazhang: hes in #u? [12:37] gnomefreak, briefly was, asked a support question, then parted [12:37] k [12:58] night all === doctorlogger is now known as apachelogger [16:06] In #ubuntu, home said: !me is testing not me :P [18:19] nhandler: did you get my Pm from earlier? you pinged out just after I sent them [18:19] PM [20:02] ? [20:02] trojan_spike: helping people figure out what is happening with their Windows installations or partitions is admirable, but offtopic for #ubuntu [20:03] mneptok, not when the problem is caused by ubuntu,, it would be a differ story the cause was from m-soft [20:04] when you get to the point of asking, "what Windows version are you running?" you have gotten deep enough into another operating system's problems to warrant moving the subject off-channel [20:04] the user was having problems installing Ubuntu [20:05] "what version of Windows are you running?" is not going to help with that issue. [20:05] what do u want me to say then,, 'sorry,, ubuntu made the error' but i cant help you get up and going??/ look im helping him because its happened myself and others.. [20:05] so go discuss it in ##windows or PM (which you started to do) [20:06] Prodego / sepehr: do you need help from the ops team? [20:06] lol,, not from you.. really up urself [20:07] mneptok: possibly for someone else, I'm still trying to figure out what their problem is exactly :) [20:07] trojan_spike: excuse me? [20:07] it is looking like I won't [20:07] Prodego: OK, we have a no-idle policy. so when you know for sure .... :) [20:07] mneptok, i dont want help from you.. because you are really up your self [20:08] trojan_spike: that attitude is not going to help. [20:08] mneptok: sure, just in case, you wouldn't happen to know who the #ubuntu GC is? [20:08] trojan_spike: as i said, "Ubuntu support only" is not a channel guideline i made. but the ops team is responsible for enforcing it. [20:08] mneptok: thank you for your attention, we had problems at #ubuntu-ir a couple of weeks ago which has no OP in, so I was trying to findout how can we work around the problem. [20:09] you made a mountain out of a mole hill.. Its a common problem,, u just hear windows and get all nancy [20:09] sepehr: for LoCo channel issues, you should ask for help in #ubuntu-irc [20:09] look,, not in the mood for an argument.. Gona leave ya to it [20:09] trojan_spike: are you saying that you'll continue to discuss Windows issues in #ubuntu? [20:10] OMG [20:10] mneptok: thank you [20:10] trojan_spike: i'm telling you there are guidelines, and what they are. you are in no way acknowledging that. [20:11] trojan_spike: "shoot the messenger" is not a good tactic when reminded of IRC guidelines [20:11] a i not [20:11] am i not? [20:11] and u would now that how? [20:11] know it's not a good tactic? [20:11] k [20:12] know *what* how? [20:12] just give some consideration as to what and why im doing something,, instead of jumping the gun.. I know ubuntu is for ubuntu / windows for windows etc etc.. [20:13] i did give you consideration. i asked you to stop, instead of muting or banning you. i was glad to see you take the conversation to PM. i was not happy you chose to argue about the channel policies. [20:15] Its because i know im right in what i said,, its a common problem and both ubuntu and windows will say take it to the other one.. [20:16] the channel policy is Ubuntu support only. [20:16] i said this before. [20:16] Anyway,, water under the bridge.. I respect that your doing what you have to do..;) [20:16] best bet, when it treads into another OS, take it to PM. which i think you now know. [20:18] if ops miss things on-channel, you dodge a bullet. but when one of us has window focus, you'll get reminded (as will anyone else). [20:18] IMO that's all needs be said. [20:19] kk,, I'll keep helpin when some1 needs it.. [20:19] i will return to cleaning vomited cat furballs from the floor of our sun porch. [20:19] ain't vacations grand? [20:19] :) [20:57] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (BajK_ appears to be abusive - 4) [23:06] In #ubuntu-bots, AnggaDj98 said: ubottu who is here? [23:26] Amaranth: I have an issue with the word shit. please make him stop. [23:28] hello IdleOne [23:29] IdleOne, [23:29] ryaxnb: listen to me. This discussion is over. DON"T USE the word shit. [23:29] no, this is not over. [23:29] clear? [23:29] it is [23:29] i already said i wont use the word shit. [23:29] I am not talking about it. it is a foul word and not acceptable. [23:29] and shit, why are we still using this word, even in the op channel. [23:29] final. [23:29] fine. [23:29] because I need to spell it out for you. [23:30] i already said i wont use the word and havent used it in some time, except right now as a point [23:30] because unlike me, youve said it 3 times now [23:30] fine. then stop arguing because you are wrong. [23:30] i am not wrong because im not arguing; shit is not acceptable in the channel [23:30] *sigh* [23:30] but the other words are, thank you very much [23:30] there is no discussing the rule. your point of view about the PG is wrong. G rated is acceptable that is it. [23:31] my point of view is not wrong and if i want to i could find a g rated movie that uses most of those words [23:31] grow up, are you afraid the use of insults makes it too easy to insult someone or something, because i can find other ways of doing that, like comparisons [23:31] this is ridicoulous. [23:32] troll [23:32] go away. [23:32] no [23:32] you bore me [23:32] i _like_ you as an op [23:32] I don't like you right now. [23:32] and i accept not using the "real" swear words because they hinder the message i try to get across with bad language [23:32] * IdleOne is stepping away [23:32] IdleOne, dont do that! [23:33] but if i cant use anything, it also hinders my messsage even more [23:33] thus, i need to be able to get my message across, using acceptable language [23:33] that is all i require, not swearing [23:33] :) [23:34] and im staying in this channel until you come back to comment a bit more about it. (or some other op does) you cant exit a conversation because youre losing [23:36] has nothing to do with winning or losing, it has everything to do with the rules we have all agreed to follow by using Ubuntu IRC channels. [23:36] i am agreeing to follow _those rules_ [23:36] as amaranth mentioned, other ops have decreed that those rules do not include PG level swearing [23:37] so why did it take me having to bring it up twice and Amaranth once before you finally decided to agree [23:37] you are interpeting the rules differently and thus it is not neccesairly the rules i am not following [23:37] because ^ [23:37] ryaxnb: Those other ops get yelled at all the time because _they_ aren't following the rules [23:37] i agree to follow "the rules" [23:37] ryaxnb: That's not how it works. IdleOne is stepping back because this has gotten "personal", so it's time for him to become uninvolved. I would be happy to try to pick up for him, but unfortunately I'm headed out the door this moment. Feel free to chill for a moment longer, but if nobody else looks alive within a few minutes, place part and return another time to poke around and see if there's someone available to discuss this ... [23:37] ... with you. [23:37] g'night! [23:38] ryaxnb: I'm not saying what IdleOne says aren't the rules, I'm saying they are selectively enforced (which is another problem) [23:38] IdleOne is unfortunately stepping out becuase it is getting personal because he is wrong. [23:38] I am not wrong [23:38] but this is a stupid argument because these rules are rarely enforced even by idle one. [23:38] afaik IdleOne can't enforce those rules in #ubuntu-offtopic [23:38] not once have i been called out for using crap, damn etc so long as i dont use anything stronger [23:39] again, not one person [23:39] idleone or not [23:39] I've been called out for using wtf and damn because those are against the rules [23:39] I don't have to have +o in a channel to tell you that you are breaking a rule [23:39] those "selectively enforced" rules... ive never seen anyone tell anyone that that breaks the rules until now [23:39] However most of the time it will depend on the context and the op [23:39] im not taking +o [23:39] ive never seen anyone _warned_ about damn or crap [23:39] you have to at least say wtf. [23:39] I didn't say anything about the word damn [23:40] you did about crap and frak. [23:40] frak has two letters in common with the other word. [23:40] yup because the word "shit" is vulgar [23:40] so poo is too? [23:40] you didn't use crap. I would of let crap slide [23:40] violating your own rules-- poo appears in G rated movies. [23:40] i did use crap at one point. [23:40] i also used frak [23:41] but excessive use of the word crap could be wrong also [23:41] my view on frak is that frak is simply a loud minor swear that sounds good [23:41] words with f and k seemt to sound gooda [23:41] you know what. I am done. do what you want. I am not an op there. [23:41] and the company name fcuk has a heck of a lot more in common than frak with the bad word [23:41] sorry for disrupting your excessive monologue. [23:41] so good god [23:41] later [23:41] later [23:43] no sense staying on a sinking ship.