[23:23] Has anyone thought of having Ubuntu Tour more "hands-on" whereas instead of screenshots, someone could make a linear recreation of the Ubuntu/GNOME desktop environment, and something step a person through a process of something (a VERY primitive example of what I'm thinking of is like a series of screenshots as imagemaps, with a specific area that's a link to the next screenshot which is of the next step) [23:26] For example, like an eyeOS installation rethemed as Ubuntu and with imitations of the standard applications (Firefox, OpenOffice, The GIMP, etc); whereas the pseudo-applications wouldn't be a 100% recreation of the application, just a recreation of the UI steps a person has to do in order to complete a task. [23:27] I would love if there was a way to have tooltip balloon application to step a person through a real Ubuntu environment; though I'm not sure how practical such a thing would be. [23:28] When I initially heard of Ubuntu Tour, I had a feeling it was going to go something along that line. [23:32] That's an interesting idea. [23:32] Though I'm not sure how practical it would be when the user is at the desktop. [23:33] It would be really good as an online precursor to a live boot, though, [23:33] I was intending on doing an implementation myself; all web-based most likely; since it's REALLY easy to imitate standard user interface widgets with a little XHTML/CSS [23:34] I was also thinking that since it would be online, a person wouldn't have to install anything; AND a person could actually try the layout of Ubuntu a little with the guides out of curiosity without having to go get a LiveCD and modify their BIOS boot priority settings, etc. [23:35] But also having some of the content for Windows as well; so a person could learn how to do things on Windows, and then also curiously learn Ubuntu as well. [23:35] (as a potential lead-in) [23:35] One thing the tour lacks is explanations for people new to computers all together. [23:35] and that's what I want one of the goals to be [23:36] Is for it to be someone completely new to a computer and understand standard user interface concepts and so on [23:36] I have my mother as a test guinea pig; I've found some papercuts through observing my mother's usage of Ubuntu. [23:37] How much computer experience did she have previously? [23:38] In the next few months my grandmother is getting a computer, probably Ubuntu. [23:38] So I've been taking a look at explaining to a beginner. [23:39] I'm used to thinking about teaching someone who's used WIndows for ~8 years and took a few to understand it. [23:50] Her past computer experience was on XP, Win98, Win95; primarily email, but more recently more social networking and web browsing. [23:51] She's still trying to grasp the full concept of copy-paste yet. [23:51] for copying files off a camera [23:52] (rather than dumping them in F-Spot, which seems to convolute the process a little) [23:55] My mom's biggest problem is that she perceived everything as completely different. [23:56] So she basically had to re-learn things like file management. [23:56] Because she didn't really understand what her clicks meant.