[23:23] <Takyoji> Has anyone thought of having Ubuntu Tour more "hands-on" whereas instead of screenshots, someone could make a linear recreation of the Ubuntu/GNOME desktop environment, and something step a person through a process of something (a VERY primitive example of what I'm thinking of is like a series of screenshots as imagemaps, with a specific area that's a link to the next screenshot which is of the next step)
[23:26] <Takyoji> For example, like an eyeOS installation rethemed as Ubuntu and with imitations of the standard applications (Firefox, OpenOffice, The GIMP, etc); whereas the pseudo-applications wouldn't be a 100% recreation of the application, just a recreation of the UI steps a person has to do in order to complete a task.
[23:27] <Takyoji> I would love if there was a way to have tooltip balloon application to step a person through a real Ubuntu environment; though I'm not sure how practical such a thing would be.
[23:28] <Takyoji> When I initially heard of Ubuntu Tour, I had a feeling it was going to go something along that line.
[23:32] <Muscovy> That's an interesting idea.
[23:32] <Muscovy> Though I'm not sure how practical it would be when the user is at the desktop.
[23:33] <Muscovy> It would be really good as an online precursor to a live boot, though,
[23:33] <Takyoji> I was intending on doing an implementation myself; all web-based most likely; since it's REALLY easy to imitate standard user interface widgets with a little XHTML/CSS
[23:34] <Takyoji> I was also thinking that since it would be online, a person wouldn't have to install anything; AND a person could actually try the layout of Ubuntu a little with the guides out of curiosity without having to go get a LiveCD and modify their BIOS boot priority settings, etc.
[23:35] <Takyoji> But also having some of the content for Windows as well; so a person could learn how to do things on Windows, and then also curiously learn Ubuntu as well.
[23:35] <Takyoji> (as a potential lead-in)
[23:35] <Muscovy> One thing the tour lacks is explanations for people new to computers all together.
[23:35] <Takyoji> and that's what I want one of the goals to be
[23:36] <Takyoji> Is for it to be someone completely new to a computer and understand standard user interface concepts and so on
[23:36] <Takyoji> I have my mother as a test guinea pig; I've found some papercuts through observing my mother's usage of Ubuntu.
[23:37] <Muscovy> How much computer experience did she have previously?
[23:38] <Muscovy> In the next few months my grandmother is getting a computer, probably Ubuntu.
[23:38] <Muscovy> So I've been taking a look at explaining to a beginner.
[23:39] <Muscovy> I'm used to thinking about teaching someone who's used WIndows for ~8 years and took a few to understand it.
[23:50] <Takyoji> Her past computer experience was on XP, Win98, Win95; primarily email, but more recently more social networking and web browsing.
[23:51] <Takyoji> She's still trying to grasp the full concept of copy-paste yet.
[23:51] <Takyoji> for copying files off a camera
[23:52] <Takyoji> (rather than dumping them in F-Spot, which seems to convolute the process a little)
[23:55] <Muscovy> My mom's biggest problem is that she perceived everything as completely different.
[23:56] <Muscovy> So she basically had to re-learn things like file management.
[23:56] <Muscovy> Because she didn't really understand what her clicks meant.