[00:29] <javier> hi! somehow i have lost possibility to become admin, so sudo doesnt work in my user (it says im not in sudoers). I think i need to be in admin group, but, how to do it?
[00:30] <javier> yofel: i tried what you told me before, but couldnt fix it. it said "javier" (that's my user name) wasnt find
[00:39] <valorie> javier: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=162867
[00:39] <valorie> sudo adduser name_of_user admin or for you, sudo adduser javier admin
[00:40] <javier> yes, but it says only admin can add someone there
[00:41] <valorie> oh yikes
[00:41] <valorie> continue down that thread, though
[00:41] <valorie> there is more
[00:41] <vpulsive> valorie:  did you try to change to su and then run the command from there/
[00:42] <valorie> you mean javier?
[00:42] <vpulsive> valorie:  yes, sorry
[00:42] <valorie> I'm off to dinner, good luck to you javier
[00:42] <javier> vpulsive: i will try that
[00:43] <javier> but its not possible to turn to sudo without admin privileges
[00:43] <javier> im reading i should log in recovery more and try there
[00:43] <vpulsive> you should be able to just type su and switch to super user if you made the account before
[00:44] <vpulsive> recovery mode might work
[00:56] <javier> vpulsive: ah... it didnt work. I managed to become super user, but, when typing "adduser javier admin", answers "admin group doesn't exist"
[00:57] <amichair> javier: maybe as super user you can edit the sudoers file and add yourself back to it?
[00:58] <javier> amichair: maybe... but, if it says there is no admin group, doesnt it mean there in no sudoers file?
[00:58] <vpulsive> check /etc/sudoers
[00:59] <amichair> javier: I'm not sure what the relationship between the two is
[00:59] <vpulsive> or as root type "visudo"
[00:59] <javier> what is visudo for?
[00:59] <vpulsive> that is the file that tells who has permissions to sudo
[01:00] <vpulsive> visudo is the command to edit the sudoers file, you have to use the specific command, although im not sure why, it says in the /etc/sudoers file "This file MUST be edited with the 'visudo' command as root."
[01:01] <javier> mmm
[01:01] <amichair> I think it adds extra protection against corruption, to avoid the situation javier is in :-)
[01:02] <well_laid_lawn> !sudo
[01:02] <javier> :)
[01:02] <javier> so, let me think... i will log as root, and then just write visudo?
[01:02] <javier> or visudo what?
[01:03] <amichair> I think just visudo
[01:03] <amichair> but read one of the links on sudo (maybe the one above?) to see what the fixed version of the sudoers file should look like...
[01:04] <vpulsive> you can "man sudoers" and it will explain the file
[01:11] <javier> waw
[01:11] <javier> im a bit afraid i can brake something
[01:12] <javier> do you think I should just add my user at the bottom of the text? (where "members of the admin group")
[01:13] <amichair> javier: whatever you do, make a backup of the file first
[01:13] <javier> mmm, i certainly think i wont manage myself
[01:14] <javier> maybe ask again tomorrow and maybe someone has experience with this problem and can guide me
[01:22] <javier> thanks anyway! :)
[02:06] <justin_> mm
[02:59] <BajK_> How can I make a script that runs on log in (autostart thingie) that runs only once and then disables itself? so, well, where are the autostart files of kde stored?
[05:06] <j_> hello world!
[05:09] <j_> I got a weird problem. The only I can start kubuntu is if I boot to prompt then use startx  if I do it at the login screen it looks like it attempts to log in then fails  for some reason.  Any ideas?
[05:10] <j_> I guess that should be start KDE not kubuntu
[05:11] <geek7> sounds like a problem with kdm, or whatever dm you're using
[05:11] <well_laid_lawn> is there a kdm log in /var/log ?
[05:11] <j_> dm?
[05:11] <well_laid_lawn> !info kdm
[05:12] <well_laid_lawn> it's the login manager
[05:12] <geek7> login manager - on kubuntu its kdm, but you can swap it for gdm or slim if you so chose.
[05:12] <j_> ahh got ya
[05:13] <j_> trying to check the log now
[05:14] <j_> humm, looks like it is complaining about ibus
[05:14] <well_laid_lawn> in what way ?
[05:14] <j_> I was trying to get this setup to type chinese with ibus maybe that was what broke the dm?
[05:14] <well_laid_lawn> could be
[05:15] <j_> qfilesystemwatcher failed to add paths:  so on and so forth
[05:15] <j_> says it cannot create input context
[05:16] <well_laid_lawn> sounds like something you did didn't work
[05:17] <j_> humm, is there an easy way to reinstall the DM without a full reinstall?
[05:17] <geek7> sudo apt-get purge kdm ; sudo apt-get install kdm should do the trick
[05:18] <geek7> that should totally nuke it including the config files, and re-install it
[05:18] <j_> won't that say that KDM is already installed?
[05:18] <geek7> then try logging in and out to see if it took.
[05:18] <geek7> the first command removes KDM and its config files
[05:18] <j_> DOH missed the purge
[05:19] <j_> ill have to remember that one.  thx
[05:19] <geek7> of course , if it still dosen't work, you'll need to undo whatever you did with ibbus
[05:19] <geek7> *ibus
[05:21] <j_> yeah, getting that to work is my next little side project
[05:22] <j_> thx for the help
[05:23] <j_> time for a reboot
[05:23] <j_> :-D
[05:46] <j_> woohoo it works
[05:46] <j_> thx everything
[05:46] <j_> *everyone
[05:47] <j_> geek7:  :-) kdm is alive and well agian
[05:47] <j_> geek7: thx
[05:47] <j_> night all
[05:49] <geek7> yay
[06:09] <djustice> gmoin kdefolk!
[07:12] <well_laid_lawn> !pastebinit
[07:16] <fujioka> What file is it that needs to be deleted to reset desktop widgets in KDE?
[07:18] <yofel> one of the ~/.kde/share/config/plasma* files, not sure which one
[08:28] <satori> Hi, anyone awake?
[08:28] <SReid> Does anyone here know how to enable something similar to Dual Mode for 2 displays in linux? TwinView isn't right...
[08:33] <jussi> SReid: what exactly is "dual mode" ?
[08:33] <jussi> SReid: you mean 2 logins on different screens? (same PC)?
[08:34] <SReid> jussi: ok well in Windows its called Dual Mode, and its where you have both displays, at different resolutions, and say if you maximised a window from within one of the monitors, it would only maximise within that window...twinview stretches across both
[08:34] <SReid> no not 2 login's...
[08:34] <SReid> just it extends your monitor space...not a twinview stretch
[08:34] <jussi> SReid: my twinview does just that...
[08:35] <SReid> so if you maximised in one window it just maxmised inside that monitor???
[08:35] <jussi> SReid: I assume you are using nvidia, right?
[08:35] <SReid> mine doesn't :(
[08:35] <SReid> yes, nvidia
[08:35] <jussi> SReid: yes, thats what happens
[08:35] <SReid> :( :(
[08:35] <SReid> hmm
[08:35] <SReid> dunno whats going on then
[08:35] <SReid> what graphics card you got
[08:35] <jussi> SReid: and you have set it from the nvidia settings, not kubuntu's own display settings?
[08:35] <SReid> mines an oldie
[08:35] <FloodBotK2> SReid: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:36] <SReid> yes set it from nvidia-settings
[08:36] <jussi> Ive 3, 2 nvidias (GT8600 and GT9500) and an amd
[08:36] <jussi> SReid: there are some apps that dont respect it, like some fullscreen games, but most do
[08:36] <SReid> I'm using the same graphics card with an adapter, maybe thats the problem
[08:36] <jussi> SReid: ahh, likely
[08:37] <jussi> I have 2 ports on the graphics card
[08:37] <SReid> but it works in windows >_<
[08:37] <jussi> SReid: strange though, it works fine here
[08:37] <SReid> i'll have another mess around here and find out, thanks for the help anyway
[08:38] <SReid> What does "Use as seperate X Screen" option do? When i did that before it wouldn't detect the 2nd monitor anymore
[08:39] <jussi> SReid: tbh, Ive no idea
[08:39] <SReid> jussi thanks anyway, might have to just use the one monitor for now
[09:43] <caustiq> good morning
[09:51] <speedvin> Hello!
[09:52] <rork> Hi
[10:32] <vmt> Hello all, How can I refresh a dns entry on bind
[10:32] <vmt> Is there something like reload?
[10:33] <mneisen> vmt: Try 'rndc reload'
[10:34] <vmt> I tried with no luck. My Provider did a PTR record and my bind dont refresh it. How can I reload that PTR-record?
[10:51] <omergex> hi
[10:51] <omergex> how r u gays
[10:53] <valorie> wow, he was fun
[10:54] <mneisen> vmt: Did you increment the serial in your zone file?
[11:16] <SReid_> Ok, can someone explain this to me...When I FIRST install Kubuntu, it has beautiful fonts already laid out for me, but if I so much as OPEN the Appearance Settings to do anything else, once closed, every new app opened has horrible small pixelated fonts (this happens even if no changes are made in Appearance Settings). And no amount of setting changes in Appearance settings ever puts it right again, does anyone have any
[11:16] <SReid_> clue what is going on?
[11:16] <SReid_> I'm about to change distro here cause its really annoying
[11:23] <Tm_T> SReid_: which apps have you tried?
[11:23] <SReid_> Tm_T: you mean which apps does it mess up in? Everything, the whole interface
[11:24] <SReid_> I just think it might be related to my old graphics card Geforce FX 5200
[11:24] <SReid_> but if the fonts are displayed fine to begin with...then it should be possible to stay that way!
[11:25] <Tm_T> SReid_: does it has any affect if you try setting the font antialiasing in systemsettings?
[11:25] <SReid_> I've tried every combination of settings in systemsettings til I was blue in the face Tm_T
[11:26] <Tm_T> it did nothing then?
[11:26] <SReid_> nope
[11:26] <Tm_T> hummm, sounds interesting
[11:26] <SReid_> This doesn't happen in Ubuntu, but I prefer KDE
[11:27] <SReid_> it sounds annoyin' tbh
[11:27] <Tm_T> unfortunately I don't have much ideas this way, I would need to test things myself to get idea what might be there
[11:27] <SReid_> :)
[11:28] <SReid_> Its grand, just thought it was worth a shot...I can't find any information online about this happening to anyone else
[11:28] <SReid_> :S
[11:28] <Tm_T> haven't heard similar either
[11:28] <Tm_T> SReid_: do you have binary drivers installed?
[11:29] <SReid_> I have non-free nvidia drivers installed...but this happens before those drivers are install too, i've checked that
[11:30] <SReid_> I really love Kubuntu besides this...guess I'll just have to use another distro and maybe try Kubuntu in its next release :(
[11:32] <SReid_> Thanks anyway Tm_T
[11:33] <Tm_T> SReid_: np and sorry for not being able to help further, I'm at work etc
[11:34] <SReid_> Maybe I'll use Ubuntu in the meantime
[11:34] <SReid_> :)
[11:34] <Tm_T> Kubuntu is Ubuntu, so... (:
[11:34] <SReid_> Gnome is just really annoying tbh, bye Tm_T
[11:35] <SReid_> Tm_T: Hmm, I wonder if I installed Ubuntu...and then KDE desktop through that...would it do the same thing...
[11:35] <SReid_> worth a try i guess
[11:35] <Tm_T> shouldn't matter, but if you're up to test it, sure
[11:36] <SReid_> Tm_T: if it somehow did miraculously work, dya know a good tutorials on how to rid the computer of Gnome stuff so i'm not updating gnome stuff all the time
[11:36] <SReid_> or does removing Gnome just remove everything related to it?
[11:37] <well_laid_lawn> !purekde
[11:37] <SReid_> thanks well_laid_lawn :)
[11:38] <well_laid_lawn> np :)
[11:39] <SReid_> well_laid_lawn: dya know any links about removing pulseaudio and just using ALSA? I'm havin trouble with Skype too...sorry to bother ya
[11:40] <well_laid_lawn> not offhand no
[11:41] <SReid_> thats cool, thanks again :D i'm away to see if this works...
[11:42] <geek7> hm
[11:43] <geek7> anyone used an external soundcard on maverick?  I have a m-audio fastrack that gets detected as a USB sound card, but i can't seem to get any sound out of it
[11:43] <geek7> even when its supposed to be on higher priority than the internal one, and is the master channel
[11:44] <geek7> hmm, actually, i can't get amarok to output to it. i'm not sure if there's no sound at all
[12:05] <jister> hey
[13:24] <speedvin> Will be Wayland shipped with Kubuntu 11.04?
[13:44] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[13:46] <speedvin> BluesKaj: hey!
[13:46] <BluesKaj> hi speedvin
[13:56] <speedvin> BluesKaj: Do you know that Kubuntu 11.04 will be shipped with Wayland by default?
[13:59] <speedvin> BluesKaj: I mean newer than K 11.04...
[14:00] <mneisen> Hi - I am currently trying to install Maverick on a RAID10. Everything works perfectly until the step in which grub is installed. Although I selected /dev/md0 as the grub target, the installer tries to install it to /dev/sdb /dev/sdc /dev/sdd /dev/sde (those four partitions make up my raid10 /dev/md0). What did I do wrong?
[14:02] <BluesKaj> speedvin , I'm not familiar with Wayland , but you can ask in #ubuntu+1
[14:02] <speedvin> BluesKaj: ok
[14:23] <BluesKaj> mneisen, maybe this will help http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/33-creating-a-dual-boot-system-on-raid10-ubuntu-windows
[14:24] <Daskreech> hi BluesKaj
[14:25] <BluesKaj> hey Daskreech
[14:35] <mneisen> BluesKaj: Hmmm, thanks for the link. I did not thought that I would have to hand-tune the install. Will try and report back. One difference to the case described in the link: I use software RAID and no HW RAID. Not sure whether this will make a difference.
[15:06] <ich> huhu
[15:07] <speedvin> ich: hello
[15:09] <ich> hab mir grad kubuntu 10.10 erfolgreich installiert :)
[15:09] <ich> nachdem ich massive probleme mit debian lenny hatte aufgrund von gnome - möche kde :P
[15:12] <ich> kann ich hier mit Quassel IRC einen 2. ServerReiter erstellen?
[15:15] <ich> bekomme gerade einen fehler hier im Quassel irc, wenn ich versuche per SSL auf einen Server zu gehen.
[15:15] <ich> Verbindungsfehler: Im Ablauf des SSL-Protokolls ist ein Fehler aufgetreten: error:1408F10B:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:wrong version number
[15:21] <well_laid_lawn> !de | ich
[16:08] <Guillem> I've moved .kde to .kde-old in order to have a clean start-up; I wonder if I can retrieve the vpnc connections from the .kde-old
[16:39] <kaddi> Hi I'm looking for a nice offline dictionary. Spanish, French, German, English, if possible. Any suggestions?
[16:41]  * woodzy is away: I'm busy
[17:30] <epimeth> ahoy folks!  How do I remove skype and/or kopete from autostarting?
[17:31] <Daskreech> I'm guessing that you have session saving turned on?
[17:33] <epimeth> I probably do, yes... forget I asked :-)
[17:34] <BluesKaj> Daskreech, do you know how one could install graphics driver required by a ubuntu installation that won't boot to X , using a live cd ?
[17:34] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: Yes
[17:34] <Daskreech> which tutorial are you following?
[17:34] <BluesKaj> cool, got a url tutorial , Daskreech ?
[17:35] <Daskreech> :-)
[17:35] <Daskreech> it's not as straightforward as that
[17:35] <Daskreech> you have caveats
[17:35] <Daskreech> which tutorial for installing the driver are you following?
[17:35] <BluesKaj> Daskreech, still looking for a tutorial that will fit the problem
[17:36] <BluesKaj> I'm not , still looking
[17:38] <BluesKaj> Daskreech, there's a guy (phpjm) over at #ubuntu who i'm trying to help
[17:39] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: No not that specific problem. WHich driver are you installing?
[17:40] <BluesKaj> Daskreech, I'm assuming the nvidia-current driver will work on his install , but after installing he can't boot into the login , altho he has grub access
[17:41] <BluesKaj> recovery kernel won't boot either
[18:08] <drbobb> now this is weird: I installed google earth on my laptop. A couple of days later, it's gone
[18:09] <drbobb> I did not rm it for sure, and dpkg says the package is installed but doesn't own any files
[18:18] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[18:19] <BluesKaj> drbobb, did you install from the package manager or download ?
[18:20] <drbobb> BluesKaj: umm I'm positive I installed a deb, not sure now where it came from though
[18:21] <drbobb> hmm seems I used a deb called googleearth-package
[18:22] <drbobb> which in turn created a googleearth deb which I installed
[18:22] <BluesKaj> my versiondeb also crashs when I launch it , drbobb ...it's broken on my setup , but haven't bothered to find a fix yet ...GE Linux is always behind the curve
[18:23] <drbobb> so, what is a recommended way to get googleearth running?
[18:24] <drbobb> (and don't say it's boot into windows)
[18:25] <BluesKaj> your method seems as good as any drbobb , I've tried a few ,all end up with same deb version :(
[18:25] <drbobb> BluesKaj: but it gave me a working google earth, only a couple days later it wasn't there anymore
[18:26] <lieuwe> hey, i have a program that expects some files somewhere, but i dont know where it expects them, so i was wondering if its possible to see which files a program tries to access
[18:26] <BluesKaj> drbobb, have you updated/upgraded in the meantime ?
[18:26] <drbobb> lieuwe: in order of preference: read the source, do a strace
[18:27] <lieuwe> drbobb: thanks
[18:27] <drbobb> BluesKaj: yeah I must have updated some packages
[18:27] <drbobb> happens every other day doesn't it
[18:28] <BluesKaj> unfortunately GE not being a default or particularly well written for kubuntu , we have to put up with their neglect, drbobb
[18:29] <BluesKaj> BBL
[18:30] <drbobb> well at least kubuntu is not half as crummy as windows xp
[18:31] <drbobb> which stopped booting on my wife's laptop a couple days ago, and I still haven't been able to figure out why or how to fix it
[18:32] <lieuwe> what's the kubuntu equivalent of %appdata%?
[18:44] <Peace-> lieuwe: ?
[18:44] <Peace-> what?
[18:44] <amichair> lieuwe: most apps write their user-specific data files to hidden folders/files in the users home directory, i.e. /home/<username>/.*, a.k.a ~/.*
[18:45] <amichair> lieuwe: kde apps somewhere under ~/.kde
[18:45] <amichair> lieuwe: if that's what you meant...
[18:45] <amichair> (hidden files/folders are those starting with a dot)
[18:50] <lieuwe> amichair: yeah, thats it, thanks
[18:51] <lieuwe> how do i see which java packages are installed?
[18:52] <amichair> lieuwe: what do you mean by packages? which jdk?
[18:53] <lieuwe> amichair: yeah
[18:53] <amichair> lieuwe: you can run "java -version" and "javac -version" to see which is the default one
[18:53] <lieuwe> okay
[19:25] <lieuwe[flat]> hey, i'm looking for video drivers for a Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller, does anyone know where i can find them?
[19:25] <izinucs> I got a nice logitech usb headset/mic combo this christmas.  It's working but I'm having an issue figuring out how to switch between analog speakers plugged into the sound card and the headset.. I'd like to do this on the fly.  Any ideas?
[19:26] <izinucs> Although unplugging it and plugging it back in works as a switch, can I do this in kmix somehow?
[19:32] <lieuwe[flat]> i'm looking for video drivers for a Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller, does anyone know where i can find them?
[19:35] <DaemonFC> I believe that chipset defaults to vesa, but it's been a while since I had one
[19:35] <DaemonFC> afaik, it's not supported by any other driver
[19:35] <BluesKaj> !intel
[19:37] <lieuwe[flat]> thanks
[19:38] <lieuwe[flat]> i'm probably going to buy a new video card soon, is there any specific card that works really well with kubuntu?
[19:40] <DaemonFC> depends on a number of things, price range, what you want to do with it, the specs of the PC it's going in, etc.
[19:43] <DaemonFC> you can stuff just about anything reasonable in there and get desktop effects
[19:53] <lieuwe[flat]> DaemonFC: i'm more concerned about driver support and whatnot
[19:54] <DaemonFC> lieuwe[flat]: If you're not picky about free/nonfree drivers, Nvidia is probably the better choice
[19:54] <lieuwe[flat]> DaemonFC: okay, thanks
[19:55] <DaemonFC> ATI has better hardware, but their Linux driver is still kind of a mess
[19:55] <DaemonFC> if you're willing to put up with the odd problem here and there, it's alright
[19:55] <lieuwe[flat]> DaemonFC: windows drivers for ati are a mess too :P
[19:56] <DaemonFC> the situation is worse on Linux, FGLRX means no KMS, the latest kernel and X are usually not supported, and it has problems with things like blur in desktop effects
[19:57] <DaemonFC> took me forever to figure out that this was causing my compositing to run slowl
[19:58] <DaemonFC> they've improved though, earlier this year it was full blown screen corruption :)
[20:02] <BluesKaj> DaemonFC, and nividia support is starting to drop off for their newer cards on the newer linuxes
[20:13]  * DaemonFC hasn't used Nvidia since the 9500 GT
[20:13] <DaemonFC> their hardware isn't anything to brag about lately and it costs too much
[20:13] <DaemonFC> I'm just saying their driver is less of a pita in my experience
[20:24] <simion314> hi, i got flickering when trying to watch full screen videos in youtube
[20:26] <simion314> turining off efects fixes the flicker but I get a right rectangle on the right side uncovered by the player, so the full screen is not FULL
[20:32] <DaemonFC> what video card and driver?
[20:32] <DaemonFC> are desktop effects enabled?
[20:33] <simion314> DaemonFC: i have ATI card with open source driver
[20:33] <simion314> without kwin effects flickers stops but no full screen
[20:33] <DaemonFC> that's odd
[20:34] <DaemonFC> try turning off direct rendering in the desktop effects settings
[20:34] <simion314> i hava 10.10 installed on other partition and flash works fine,with full screen and with effects, but there i have drivers from xorg-edgers
[20:34] <DaemonFC> see if it helps
[20:35] <DaemonFC> xorg-edgers gives you an X server and Mesa straight from git
[20:35] <DaemonFC> there's no guarantee it will even work from day to day
[20:36] <DaemonFC> does the problem happen without the xorg-edgers packages?
[20:37] <simion314> DaemonFC: i had no choise, in my 10.10 installation the driver sucked bad, everything flickered so i used x from git, but i still have to fix some problems and migrate all mu stuff to that installation
[20:37] <DaemonFC> have you tried Catalyst?
[20:37] <DaemonFC> there's an X-Swat PPA that keeps the latest one
[20:37] <DaemonFC> you'd have to purge the xorg-edgers packages first though
[20:38] <simion314> DaemonFC: the problem is on 10.04 LTS with nX from repos and open source driver, i think flash should have placed some black areas on the side to create a real full screen, so it is a flash problem, but i think in 10.10 is same flash
[20:39] <simion314> DaemonFC: my card is no longer suported by ATI so no new drivers for me,,the windows suport is droped too
[20:39] <simion314> byt the laptop is new and the card model is old, bad lucj, and I bought it with linux installed on it, penguin logos on it...
[20:42] <DaemonFC> yeah, that probably just meant that ATI supported it when it was new
[20:42] <DaemonFC> I'm in the same boat with my laptop, 200m
[20:43] <DaemonFC> I either have to use an old distro that can still run a 2 year old Catalyst, or take what the open source drivers will give me
[20:44] <simion314> this is the bad part about laptops you can't open them and replace the card, I am afraid to open t to clean it, the stupid people who designed it should have let us a easy way to open and clean the fans
[20:44] <DaemonFC> I ended up parking that system on CentOS until the open source drivers improve a bit
[20:44] <DaemonFC> usually a laptop is one solid unit that has a couple plates you can take off to upgrade RAM or hard disk :(
[20:44] <DaemonFC> evil things
[20:45] <simion314> DaemonFC: the driver from edgers works ok,better then the one in 10.10 but I can't make it work with an external monitor  and effects on
[20:46] <DaemonFC> same problem with mine, can't use VGA out at all with the open source driver
[20:47] <simion314> DaemonFC: i do not remember catalyst to work for the 200m ever
[20:48] <DaemonFC> it did at one point, they cut it off in 2008
[20:50] <simion314> all was greath for me too,untill 9.04 , i think iyt could work with debian lenny but that is realy old distro and hard to install proprietay drvers, i had to compile the sound drivers for one laptop
[20:51] <DaemonFC> Lenny is still supported but not for long
[20:51] <DaemonFC> it's dead as soon as they release Squeeze, which is probably a matter of weeks
[20:52] <DaemonFC> the software repositories will be up for a good long while, but no security updates or anything
[20:52] <simion314> i am preaty happy with 10.04 on a partutuon for stable stuff and 10.10 to experiment with latest KDE
[20:53] <amichair> is there a nice way to run two commands together under one sudo command?
[20:54] <amichair> i.e. is there some precedence operator in bash?
[20:54] <DaemonFC> you can use sudo -i to get a persistent administrative terminal session
[20:55] <DaemonFC> and then exit it when you're done
[20:55] <izinucs> amichair: sure.. sudo <command> && sudo <command> .. the second won't go unless the first is successful
[20:55] <amichair> izinucs: but is there an equivalent of sudo (<command> && <command>)
[20:55] <DaemonFC> the second will go as long is you got your password right
[20:56] <amichair> izinucs: btw what's the difference between using && and using ; ?
[20:58] <izinucs> amichair: never used ; myself so I don't know.  if the commands don't need sudo then you can drop it.. but each command is treated separately so if they need sudo then you type it twice
[20:58] <amichair> izinucs: ok, thanks
[21:00] <harolddong> in the 4.6 rc, while akonadi seems to run fine, if I attempt to access any of the settings it says the server version is too old and need to be upgraded.  Is this a known issue?
[21:37] <pidus> I have a laptop connected to the wired net and I am trying to set up an ad-hoc connection to connect an ipod-touch. Initially I tried setting up the ad-hoc connection using wicd, and later I tried to alter the interfaces file as mentioned in the last post on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=608017. Moreover, I tried to up the interface using cli but the device still isn't able to connect to the network. Any clues?
[21:39] <pidus> I used the steps in https://bugs.launchpad.net/wicd/+bug/129608/comments/20 to try setting up the network.
[21:56] <t126401> hello
[22:03] <pidus> now, when I try using the networkmanager to do what's mentioned in http://www.ubuntugeek.com/creating-an-adhoc-host-with-ubuntu.html the app-gui crashes at the first place.
[22:07] <spirov92> hi, I'm trying to get an old garmin gps to work using the info here: http://www.marengo-ltd.com/gps/ but I'm not seeing a garmin_gps entry in dmesg. Can someone help?
[22:19] <woodzy> what's a good directory player that plays ogg and mp3? i'm trying to use kplayer but for some reason it keeps locking up :-\
[22:22] <HollowPoint> vlc works well
[22:24] <Apetrini> What's the name of this font http://agateau.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/reversed-checkboxes-ksnapshot.png?w=413&h=473 ? thanks :)
[22:32] <rork> woodzy: did you try Amarok?
[22:43] <woodzy> yea, just didn't like the way it was setup. maybe i'll give it another shot. :-\
[22:44] <Fieldy> !printing
[22:48] <Fieldy> i'm following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HpAllInOne (got there from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers) however my hp 3050 isn't found when running hp-setup. hp-check -r can't be run because hp-check isn't found.
[22:49] <Fieldy> yeah ok this info is woefully out of date
[22:55] <sir-spaz-alot> Anybody know of any linux compat cad software targeted at circuits that can simulate the circuits to make sure they work?
[22:56] <cpatrick2008> @Fieldy go to http://sourceforge.net/projects/hplip/files/hplip/3.10.9/ download the run file then right click the file and select properties and to to permissions and select is excutiable then go to the terminal and go to the file that it downloaded to then type ./TheNameOfTheFile
[22:57] <Fieldy> hplip is already installed here, why would i install it manually and conflict with the package manager?
[22:58] <cpatrick2008> oh then go to hlpip and install the printer
[23:43] <RLa> in which directory are ssl validation certification kept?
[23:47] <Snowhog> RLa: Here, on Marverick 10.10, I believe it's /usr/lib/ssl/certs
[23:49] <RLa> do you know what those files like 111e6273.0 do there?
[23:49] <RLa> i would really like to know who i trust and who not
[23:51] <Snowhog> RLa: Just ls -la from the directory. The numbered.0 ones are 'links' to actual certificates.
[23:52] <RLa> thanks
[23:53] <Snowhog> RLa: It actually looks like everything in that directory are links.
[23:53] <RLa> yeah
[23:55] <Snowhog> RLa: So, it would seem, that this directory contains 'pointers' to the multitude of certifications that exist on ones system, and using ls -la, you can see where all of these certificates reside.
[23:57] <RLa> i'm actually debugging one problem that i have with certs
[23:57] <RLa> any idea if qt/kde uses the same directory for certs?
[23:58] <Snowhog> RLa: Nope (I don't know).