[00:08] <berling> is there any solution for lubuntu freezing on old pcs?
[00:12] <stlsaint> we would need more a explanation of the error
[00:12] <stlsaint> and any error reports you get...
[00:13] <stlsaint> berling: ??
[00:29] <berling> just searched logs. Usually happens after using firefox or chrome.
[00:30] <berling> ntpd_initres[985]: parent died before we finished, exiting
[00:40] <berling> and final log:
[00:41] <berling> kernel: [   50.136353] EXT4-fs (sda1): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro,commit=600
[00:57] <stwobe> just installed sox - but cannot convert form wav to m3 - error says "SoX was compiled without MP3 encoding support". Even though I installed every Sox realed thing in Synaptic.
[00:57] <stwobe> mp3 I mean in the above -not m3
[03:16] <cmdrtebok> hey I was wondering what the minimum amount of hard drive space needed for lubuntu was
[03:56] <phillw> cmdrtebok: it *can* fit on 512MB
[04:26] <stlsaint> cmdrtebok: to functionally run i suggest 1-4 gb (thats giving room for installing programs)
[04:26] <stlsaint> :)
[04:30] <bioterror> hahaha
[04:31] <bioterror> my Arch is on 2TB drive :D
[04:31] <bioterror> thanks to grub 2 :D
[04:31] <bioterror> feels weird if someone has less than 20GB hdd
[04:33] <stlsaint> bioterror: feels weird for me if less than 200GB lol
[04:33] <stlsaint> bioterror: its like anything less then 250 and i cant function properly lol
[04:40] <bioterror> yeah
[04:40] <bioterror> you dont need to install much stuff and you're way beyond 3GB
[05:17] <stlsaint> MonthOLDpickle: SPAM!!
[10:50] <Goodgame> hello
[10:51] <Goodgame> I've got a question on ubuntu, (same on lubuntu I guess). How do we cut/paste files from an user to another?
[12:18] <wyclif> hey
[12:22] <wyclif> liking lubuntu a lot
[12:25] <bioterror> good wyclif
[14:23] <sligo> hello. i am new to linux and what i learned in ubuntu doesn't always apply to lubuntu.  i downloaded a package from Moneydance which is my financial software.  is there anyway to make an icon executable from the same place the chromium icon is located and get rid of the chromium icon?
[14:24] <sligo> if this is the wrong place for this question, my apologies
[16:41]  * woodzy is away: I'm busy
[17:03] <woodzy> does anyone know how to disable the touch pad on a laptop when a usb or ps/2 mouse is plugged in?
[21:06] <GaryD> hello all. does anyone know why mplayer goes black after a few minutes? i have the video output set on x11.
[21:07] <kosaidpoo> GaryD: why not use vlc its cooler
[21:07] <GaryD> because I can't seem to get the mozilla-vlc-plugin to ever work.
[21:08] <kosaidpoo> GaryD: ahhi tho u jst askin abt the desktop app
[21:08] <GaryD> it never plays videos in firefox.
[21:08] <kosaidpoo> GaryD: does it give you any error msg ?
[21:10] <GaryD> kosaidpoo: no. the screen just goes blank. i am using gnome-mplayer.
[21:10] <GaryD> i still get sound, though?
[21:13] <Yorvyk> GaryD, is that not the screensaver kicking in
[21:13] <kosaidpoo> GaryD: uhmm weird
[21:15] <GaryD> Yorvyk: i have the screensaver disabled. It doesn't happen all the time either, mainly in embedded videos, but it does happen on local videos too.
[21:16] <Yorvyk> uhmm weird :/
[21:17] <GaryD> yep. a friend of mine is having the same problem.
[21:19] <Yorvyk> GaryD, Have you tried starting it from the command line to see if it throes any error out?
[21:21] <GaryD> Yorvyk: no, i haven't. i will do that next time. does anyone else have this problem? i notice on the forums and mailing lists that others are having the same problem, but only with vdpau output. also, i do have unclutter enabled. coudl that causea problem? i notice that sometimes it happens when the mouse disappears. not always though.
[21:22] <Yorvyk> GaryD, I've not had the problem.
[21:23] <GaryD> and you use gnome-mplayer?
[21:23] <Yorvyk> Does it happen only with a certain format or any format
[21:23] <Yorvyk> yes gnome mplayer
[21:24] <GaryD> what is your video output?
[21:25] <Yorvyk> Intel or SiS
[21:25] <GaryD> oh
[21:26] <Yorvyk> vdpau is nVidia?
[21:27] <GaryD> i am using x11. on my computer i have nvidea card. on my friend's computer there is xserver-xorg-video-intel.
[21:29] <Yorvyk> Sorry I see, it is X11 yes
[21:29] <Yorvyk> BRB
[21:34] <Yorvyk> GaryD, is this on full-screen
[21:34] <GaryD> Yorvyk: yes.
[21:37] <Yorvyk> Do certain videos all ways fail?
[21:40] <GaryD> No. It seems to be totally random, but it nearly always happens with embedded videos.
[21:42] <GaryD> i would just use vlc, but as i said, the mozilla plugin never works...not even sometimes.
[21:42] <GaryD> and what is up with that?
[21:42] <GaryD> also, if there was any other player besides mplayer or vlc with a browser plugin for firefox, i would use that.
[21:43] <GaryD> and even with chrome, i seem to always have multimedia problems. even with all the extras installed.
[21:46] <GaryD> it is very annoying.
[21:47] <Yorvyk> The only probelms I get a stuttering or the audio out of sync with the video
[21:48] <Yorvyk> There does seem to be people having trouble with vdpau and no solutions
[21:49] <GaryD> I have seen that. i don't even have vdpau installed. i have the proprietary nvidia driver and xserver-xorg-video-nv.
[21:50] <GaryD> someone told me to install smplayer and it would "automagically" fix the problem...what do you think?
[21:52] <Yorvyk> One can but try.  Although I'm surprised VLC won't work for you.
[21:54] <GaryD> vlc works great. it is my player of choice. it is just that no videos will load in the browser. i get a "video loading" thing on the video screen and it never loads. i have waited a long time before too. at least 20 minutes.
[22:13] <GaryD> i get no errors when ran from the command line.
[22:17] <Yorvyk> GaryD, not helpful :(
[22:18] <jhrjd> hi all
[22:19] <jhrjd> i need help, who could help me, please?
[22:19] <Yorvyk> jhrjd, If you ask we can try :)
[22:20] <jhrjd> ok thank you very much, only wanted to know if i may, so i explain my request:
[22:21] <jhrjd> sorry for my english, i'm italian, i would add at the under bar, the pulsant: lock application blocked
[22:21] <jhrjd> i remember that there is one like in ubuntu
[22:21] <Yorvyk> GaryD, have you tried different video outputs?
[22:22] <jhrjd> now i would use lubuntu and i would like to add the similar pulsant
[22:24] <Yorvyk> jhrjd, Sorry I don't understand, can you explain it another way
[22:24] <jhrjd> yes certainly
[22:24] <jhrjd> i mean a button that is useful to unlock the software has gone in crash
[22:25] <GaryD> Yorvyk: yes. they all don't work. also, do you think post-processing could have something to do with it?
[22:26] <Yorvyk> GaryD, just looking at I have Minimal set on this machine.  I'm not really sure what it does
[22:26] <GaryD> hmmm...dang
[22:27] <Yorvyk> jhrjd, I know what you mean now
[22:27] <jhrjd> and i used it on using ubuntu, adding it to the taskbar located in the downside of the desktop
[22:27] <jhrjd> and my problem is that i don't know the way to find it on distro lubuntu
[22:29] <jhrjd> i tried to click with right mouse on taskbar but i did not find in the possible options
[22:30] <GaryD> i set post-processing to max. no good.
[22:30] <Yorvyk> jhrjd, I think i know what you mean but can't remember the name
[22:30] <Yorvyk> GaryD, it seems to alter the picture quality as far as I can tell
[22:31] <jhrjd> ok thanks
[22:32] <Yorvyk> jhrjd, is it the skull and cross bones looking thing?
[22:33] <jhrjd> i think not
[22:34] <GaryD> what the crap. i have seen this exact problem go unsolved on nearly all versions of ubuntu. from 8.04 to now. why hasn't this been fixed yet? also, why does lubuntu use a player for default that doesn't work properly? as far as that goes, why is it that the only player that works in a browser seem to be totem?
[22:34] <Yorvyk> jhrjd, Is it called 'Force Quit'
[22:35] <jhrjd> yes, that one
[22:35] <jhrjd> is there a similar one in lubuntu too?
[22:35] <Yorvyk> GaryD, I can't get Totem to work exept with Xubuntu
[22:36] <GaryD> Yorvyk: totem comes with ubuntu by default. i have never had a problem with it. this is wierd.
[22:37] <Yorvyk> jhrjd, No and I'm not sure if the Ubuntu one would work, give me a moment to find it.
[22:38] <Yorvyk> GaryD, I know I used to install VLC in Ubuntu to get things to work.
[22:39] <GaryD> lol...that's crazy!
[22:39] <jhrjd> Yorvyk, okay, as long as you want, thanks again for your help
[22:39] <GaryD> i wonder why i have these problems....also it doesn't make any sense since it is random and even my friend with a much older computer is having the same exact problems.
[22:41] <GaryD> i hate this. i talked up lubuntu a lot and now i have a lot of problems.
[22:42] <jhrjd> GaryD: are you saying to me?
[22:44] <GaryD> jhrjd: nope. just saying ingeneral.
[22:44] <GaryD> in general
[22:45] <jhrjd> ok i see
[22:47] <Yorvyk> GaryD, the problem is, nobody seems to know what the problem is.  It appears, to me, that certain combinations of software just won't work on some machines.
[22:50] <GaryD> Yorvyk: i hear ya. so what do you suggest i do? convert back to windows?
[22:50] <Yorvyk> jhrjd, There skull and cross bones one I was thinking of is 'xkill'. If you open the terminal and type xkill it turns the cursor into a skull and cross bones and you click on the window you want to kill.
[22:50] <Yorvyk> GaryD, have you tried smplayer?
[22:52] <jhrjd> ok thank you, i will do in that way
[22:52] <GaryD> Yorvyk: i have not. although, the mozilla plugin depends on gnome-mplayer. so i would still have the problem with embedded videos, right?
[22:53] <jhrjd> thank you very much, now i go, good night all
[22:53] <GaryD> night
[22:54] <GaryD> also, smplayer is a qt frontend.
[22:56] <bioterror> pcmanfm > thunar
[22:56] <bioterror> that one is clear thing
[22:57] <GaryD> bioterror: what?
[22:57] <Yorvyk> GaryD, forgot about the Qt thing.  It drags a lot of dependencies in as I remember.
[22:58] <GaryD> Yorvyk: yeah, unfortunately
[22:58] <GaryD> bioterror: pcmanfm rocks
[23:02] <Yorvyk> GaryD, pity pcmanfm can't play movies :)
[23:02] <GaryD> Yorvyk: i support that.
[23:04] <Yorvyk> GaryD, I rarely play video at full screen, but just tried Sintel and it went blank about 15 mins in and the sound is continuing
[23:04] <GaryD> Yorvyk: that is the problem.
[23:04] <Yorvyk> I'll leave it to see if it comes back on.  No error messages though.
[23:05] <GaryD> I watch all videos in fullscreen. my family watches movies at night. we get tired of this black screen. even my 6 year old recognizes the player and says "please daddy, not that one, it will mess up!"
[23:06] <GaryD> btw...sintel rocks
[23:06] <Yorvyk> Have you tried just maximising the window rather than using full-screen?
[23:07] <GaryD> I could, but it kinda defeats the purpose of seeing nothing but the video.
[23:08] <Yorvyk> I just wondered if that would work.
[23:08] <GaryD> i think the problem is just with fullscreen. not sure though.
[23:09] <Yorvyk> If it did then the problem is with full-screen mode and may help the developer(s)
[23:09] <GaryD> right. i will try that.
[23:13] <GaryD> ok. thanks for all the help and suggestions. i have to go, but will be back sometime tomorrow with a follow up.