[00:14] <Volkodav> is simple scan gets broken pdf again ?
[05:01] <taransvar>  fd
[05:01] <taransvar> rea
[05:02] <taransvar> hello world
[05:09] <taransva1> hey ban
[05:10] <taransva1> apt-get kill you all
[05:10] <taransva1> rootkit
[05:10] <taransva1> bruteforce
[05:10] <taransva1> hack you
[05:10] <taransva1> all
[05:10] <taransva1> frans is my assistant
[05:10] <taransva1> using user name aministrator louie
[05:10] <taransva1> hack him man
[05:23] <nit-wit> ban| taransva1
[05:23] <holstein> hehe
[05:24] <nit-wit> holstein, I have no powers
[05:24] <holstein> watch out, you'll get hacked...
[05:25] <nit-wit> holstein, they will jind nothing but tumble weed and some ash
[05:25] <nit-wit> *find
[05:40] <neiz> Hey all, I just downloaded 11.04 Alpha 1 but upon boot it seems te exact same as 10.04... is there a way to enable unity, or should it be enabled out of the box?
[05:40] <rww> neiz: It's enabled out of the box if the graphics driver you're using supports it.
[05:40] <neiz> rww: ah that must be it then, using it through a VM with no 2d/3d support. thanks.
[05:56] <ethana2> i'm trying to convince myself to hold out for alpha 2 before trying 11.04 again, but  my self control is losing quickly
[05:57] <ethana2> Are the dailies pretty good these days? I think I might just grab one of those and try it on my flash drive
[05:57] <rww> I have an alpha1 install that I've been upgrading. There've been a couple of hiccups, but it's generally not been worse than other alphas.
[05:58] <rww> usable, if not always reliable
[05:59] <ethana2> rww: how's unity? :D
[06:00] <rww> ethana2: The basics are there. Still waiting on the new Places stuff and a real application picker (the button that's going to be used for that just opens a folder in nautilus right now), but it's a heck of a lot faster than UNE 10.10 on my (Intel) netbook thanks to Compiz :)
[06:00] <rww> (waiting as of a few days ago, anyway. Haven't had time to update since then)
[06:02] <ethana2> someone just called my Droid..  ping
[06:02] <ethana2> k
[06:03] <ethana2> rww: what do you mean by new "Places" stuff?
[06:03] <rww> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/Places
[09:51] <speedvin> Hello!
[12:54] <coz_> good day all
[14:03] <speedvin> Does anyone know that newer version of Kubuntu will be shipped with Wayland (I mean versions below 11.10) ;) ?
[15:13] <histo> speedvin: dont' believe so
[15:13] <histo> speedvin: but you can check out 11.04 yourself and see
[15:13] <speedvin> histo: You mean fact that NVidia don't want to support KMS?
[15:13] <speedvin> histo: I use it ;)
[15:13] <histo> speedvin: then whats the question?
[15:14] <speedvin> histo: I mean 11.10
[15:14] <kklimonda> speedvin: it doesn't have much with nvidia not willing to support kms, wayland is just not ready for major adoption
[15:14] <speedvin> and version with higher number
[15:14] <speedvin> kklimonda: ok
[15:14] <coz_> ok I have to break here....be back in a bit
[15:49] <Amaranth> speedvin: I doubt we'll see Ubuntu doing anything serious with wayland before the 12.10 release
[15:52] <speedvin> Amaranth: right
[16:31] <hggdh> anyone trying to install from current ISO? I need to confirm a bug -- installation is interrupted by sudden reboot in the middle of base install
[19:45] <alex_mayorga> Can I get some eyes on bug #693828 please?
[19:47] <charlie-tca> I don't seem to have that issue
[19:47]  * penguin42 looks
[19:48] <penguin42> oh, I had looked a few days ago :-)
[19:49] <penguin42> the only thing that's a shame is that it's not the first error, although it's probably pretty difficult to get it
[19:50] <alex_mayorga> penguin42: I seem to manage to crash on .11 too
[19:50] <alex_mayorga> funny how running on netroot recovery and then gdm it works :S
[19:50] <alex_mayorga> no panics that way
[19:51] <penguin42> what kernel from netroot?
[19:51] <alex_mayorga> maybe is just the crappy toshiba drive on my crappy sony laptop :)
[19:51] <penguin42> a crappy drive shouldn't cause those errors
[19:52] <alex_mayorga> 2.6.37-11 is what I'm running now
[19:52] <penguin42> but as I say, not being able to see the start of the sequence is a bit of a pain, because the 1st error is normally the most telling, so you're saying -11 is OK netbooted but not directly?
[19:52] <alex_mayorga> penguin42: yup
[19:52] <alex_mayorga> if booted normally it panics too
[19:53] <penguin42> how do you mean normally? You mena netboot all the way?
[19:53] <alex_mayorga> I mean not picking (recovery options) or whatever is called on initial grub
[19:54] <penguin42> ok, lets just go back a step; is there any way of booting it off the hard drive that works?
[19:54] <alex_mayorga> yup, I select the second option in grub the (recovery) one, pick netroot, then issue gdm on the # prompt
[19:55] <alex_mayorga> and that way is how I am on this IRC channel ;)
[19:56] <alex_mayorga> on the very same kernel that panics when booted normally (by normally I mean first grub option)
[19:56] <penguin42> sorry, I'm confused by netroot - do you mean you're running with NFS root ?
[19:57] <charlie-tca> root prompt with networking
[19:57] <charlie-tca> from the recovery menu
[19:58] <penguin42> oh, ok, never noticed that
[19:58] <alex_mayorga> charlie-tca: that one, exactly
[19:58] <penguin42> ok, so full boot fails, netroot works - hmm
[19:58] <alex_mayorga> how can I add to the current bug using ubuntu-bug?
[19:59] <penguin42> you can do an apport-collect and then the bug number - but you already have the info
[19:59] <penguin42> you can just add comments through the web interface
[20:02] <alex_mayorga> penguin42: just did that
[20:02] <alex_mayorga> got some gtk-warnings along the way
[20:03] <alex_mayorga> anything you can suggest for now?
[20:03] <alex_mayorga> I guess I just won't reboot ever again :)
[20:05] <penguin42> alex_mayorga: Add a note on that bug stating that works
[20:05] <penguin42> alex_mayorga: Then the trick will be to figure out what differences are on the rescue and the normal path
[20:06] <alex_mayorga> penguin42: just added that to the report, thanks!
[20:07] <alex_mayorga> have to go out to the "real" world now, thanks everyone for the help
[20:08] <penguin42> alex_mayorga: So I've never been through the recovery-mode stuff, grub doesn't seem to pass any options other than single - e.g. it doesn't pass any safe options (like turning off acpi or the like)
[20:24] <penguin42> alex_mayorga: One thought, do a disk boot (that fails) and then this recovery boot, check the logs to see if a copy of the oops made it to the log
[20:25] <alex_mayorga> penguin42: where do I look for the log?
[20:26] <penguin42> alex_mayorga: Try /var/log/kern.log or /var/log/messages for the boot before your current one, most likely it didn't maange to get that far, but it's worth checking
[20:27] <alex_mayorga> I have kern.log       kern.log.1     kern.log.2.gz  kern.log.3.gz  kern.log.4.gz
[20:27] <penguin42> just kerne.log but possibly kerne.log.1 which is the next older one
[20:28] <alex_mayorga> do I add these to the bug report?
[21:36] <munzir> Hi, when I leave my laptop for some mins, the laptop sleeps but I don't want this _feature_ how can I cancel it? power management is in performance mode already!
[21:36] <munzir> the problem is all my downloads stops working ;)
[21:42] <Volkodav> I have a system hanging at boot after fsck saying init:udevtrigger main process(415) terminated with status 1 same about post-stop process and sda1 clean and then just blinking
[21:42] <yofel> which desktop env?
[21:42] <yofel> munzir: ^
[21:42] <munzir> yofel: kde
[21:42] <yofel> munzir: check the performance profile?
[21:49] <penguin42> Volkodav: Try leaving it for a while, mine has gained a ~80second pause
[21:50] <Volkodav> I did fsck and then rebooted and then had it sitting for a while too
[21:51] <munzir> yofel: suspend is not checked but the others like dim display and screen energy are ticked
[21:52] <munzir> yofel: I have to go now
[21:52] <munzir> yofel: thanks anyway
[22:00] <penguin42> wow, someone just thanked me for my celerity; I've never been thanked for that before
[22:17] <mmdadawow> hello there everybody
[22:17] <mmdadawow> I am concerned about the appmenu in Natty
[22:18] <mmdadawow> will it properly support GTK and Qt? will it also support Gecko, VCL, the one Eclipse uses, wxWidgets, and maybe even more?
[22:27] <BUGabundo> yo
[22:30] <penguin42> mmdadawow: My guess is no, but those apps that don't support it I think will just work like they used to with the menus locally; I suspect there is nothing to stop other guis having the same interface to send to the stuff in the bar; not sure which ones have been written
[22:30] <mmdadawow> penguin42: sorry but I don't understand everything you're trying to say
[22:30] <mmdadawow> unsupported apps/toolkits(?) will have their menubar in their window
[22:31] <mmdadawow> other than that I don't understand you
[22:47] <penguin42> mmdadawow: So the appmenu stuff seems to be 2 parts (and I wasn't involved in it) one part that does the menu in the panel, and another part that plugs inot gtk to send the menu to the other part
[22:48] <penguin42> mmdadawow: If an app isn't gtk and thus doesn't have the plugin, it won't send it's menu to the bar at the top; it'll just work like it used to
[22:48] <mmdadawow> penguin42: there are other ways than GTK to implement a menu, Qt, VCL, wxW., etc.
[22:48] <mmdadawow> penguin42: that is wrong I'm afraid, it currently supports Qt as well
[22:48] <penguin42> mmdadawow: Yep and as far as I can tell they won't change at all with the new system; the app will just work like it used to
[22:49] <penguin42> mmdadawow: Right, but I think the trick is that since there are two parts, you can do the plugin part for things like Qt or anything else
[22:49] <mmdadawow> so there are no plans to support other things than GTK and Qt?
[22:49] <penguin42> don't know - I'm just saying it would be possible to write plugins for anything
[22:49] <penguin42> (* anything may be a bit far fetched)
[22:50] <mmdadawow> id like to talk to someone who works on it then
[23:00] <penguin42> yeh, not sure who that is - go look at the source
[23:00] <mmdadawow> :S