[00:14] is simple scan gets broken pdf again ? === SolidLiq is now known as solid_liq [05:01] fd [05:01] rea [05:02] hello world [05:09] hey ban [05:10] apt-get kill you all [05:10] rootkit [05:10] bruteforce [05:10] hack you [05:10] all [05:10] frans is my assistant [05:10] using user name aministrator louie [05:10] hack him man [05:23] ban| taransva1 [05:23] hehe [05:24] holstein, I have no powers [05:24] watch out, you'll get hacked... [05:25] holstein, they will jind nothing but tumble weed and some ash [05:25] *find [05:40] Hey all, I just downloaded 11.04 Alpha 1 but upon boot it seems te exact same as 10.04... is there a way to enable unity, or should it be enabled out of the box? [05:40] neiz: It's enabled out of the box if the graphics driver you're using supports it. [05:40] rww: ah that must be it then, using it through a VM with no 2d/3d support. thanks. [05:56] i'm trying to convince myself to hold out for alpha 2 before trying 11.04 again, but my self control is losing quickly [05:57] Are the dailies pretty good these days? I think I might just grab one of those and try it on my flash drive [05:57] I have an alpha1 install that I've been upgrading. There've been a couple of hiccups, but it's generally not been worse than other alphas. [05:58] usable, if not always reliable [05:59] rww: how's unity? :D [06:00] ethana2: The basics are there. Still waiting on the new Places stuff and a real application picker (the button that's going to be used for that just opens a folder in nautilus right now), but it's a heck of a lot faster than UNE 10.10 on my (Intel) netbook thanks to Compiz :) [06:00] (waiting as of a few days ago, anyway. Haven't had time to update since then) [06:02] someone just called my Droid.. ping [06:02] k [06:03] rww: what do you mean by new "Places" stuff? [06:03] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/Places [09:51] Hello! === duanedes1gn is now known as duanedesign === yofel_ is now known as yofel === vish is now known as evilvish [12:54] good day all [14:03] Does anyone know that newer version of Kubuntu will be shipped with Wayland (I mean versions below 11.10) ;) ? === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth [15:13] speedvin: dont' believe so [15:13] speedvin: but you can check out 11.04 yourself and see [15:13] histo: You mean fact that NVidia don't want to support KMS? [15:13] histo: I use it ;) [15:13] speedvin: then whats the question? [15:14] histo: I mean 11.10 [15:14] speedvin: it doesn't have much with nvidia not willing to support kms, wayland is just not ready for major adoption [15:14] and version with higher number [15:14] kklimonda: ok [15:14] ok I have to break here....be back in a bit === IAmNotThatGuy is now known as M0hi [15:49] speedvin: I doubt we'll see Ubuntu doing anything serious with wayland before the 12.10 release [15:52] Amaranth: right [16:31] anyone trying to install from current ISO? I need to confirm a bug -- installation is interrupted by sudden reboot in the middle of base install === IAmNotThatGuy is now known as M0hi === M0hi is now known as IAmNotThatGuy [19:45] Can I get some eyes on bug #693828 please? [19:45] Launchpad bug 693828 in linux (Ubuntu) "Fatal exception in interrupt: Kernel panic on 2.6.37-10-generic" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/693828 [19:47] I don't seem to have that issue [19:47] * penguin42 looks [19:48] oh, I had looked a few days ago :-) [19:49] the only thing that's a shame is that it's not the first error, although it's probably pretty difficult to get it [19:50] penguin42: I seem to manage to crash on .11 too [19:50] funny how running on netroot recovery and then gdm it works :S [19:50] no panics that way [19:51] what kernel from netroot? [19:51] maybe is just the crappy toshiba drive on my crappy sony laptop :) [19:51] a crappy drive shouldn't cause those errors [19:52] 2.6.37-11 is what I'm running now [19:52] but as I say, not being able to see the start of the sequence is a bit of a pain, because the 1st error is normally the most telling, so you're saying -11 is OK netbooted but not directly? [19:52] penguin42: yup [19:52] if booted normally it panics too [19:53] how do you mean normally? You mena netboot all the way? [19:53] I mean not picking (recovery options) or whatever is called on initial grub [19:54] ok, lets just go back a step; is there any way of booting it off the hard drive that works? [19:54] yup, I select the second option in grub the (recovery) one, pick netroot, then issue gdm on the # prompt [19:55] and that way is how I am on this IRC channel ;) [19:56] on the very same kernel that panics when booted normally (by normally I mean first grub option) [19:56] sorry, I'm confused by netroot - do you mean you're running with NFS root ? [19:57] root prompt with networking [19:57] from the recovery menu [19:58] oh, ok, never noticed that [19:58] charlie-tca: that one, exactly [19:58] ok, so full boot fails, netroot works - hmm [19:58] how can I add to the current bug using ubuntu-bug? [19:59] you can do an apport-collect and then the bug number - but you already have the info [19:59] you can just add comments through the web interface [20:02] penguin42: just did that [20:02] got some gtk-warnings along the way [20:03] anything you can suggest for now? [20:03] I guess I just won't reboot ever again :) [20:05] alex_mayorga: Add a note on that bug stating that works [20:05] alex_mayorga: Then the trick will be to figure out what differences are on the rescue and the normal path [20:06] penguin42: just added that to the report, thanks! [20:07] have to go out to the "real" world now, thanks everyone for the help [20:08] alex_mayorga: So I've never been through the recovery-mode stuff, grub doesn't seem to pass any options other than single - e.g. it doesn't pass any safe options (like turning off acpi or the like) [20:24] alex_mayorga: One thought, do a disk boot (that fails) and then this recovery boot, check the logs to see if a copy of the oops made it to the log [20:25] penguin42: where do I look for the log? [20:26] alex_mayorga: Try /var/log/kern.log or /var/log/messages for the boot before your current one, most likely it didn't maange to get that far, but it's worth checking [20:27] I have kern.log kern.log.1 kern.log.2.gz kern.log.3.gz kern.log.4.gz === jenkins1 is now known as jenkins [20:27] just kerne.log but possibly kerne.log.1 which is the next older one [20:28] do I add these to the bug report? [21:36] Hi, when I leave my laptop for some mins, the laptop sleeps but I don't want this _feature_ how can I cancel it? power management is in performance mode already! [21:36] the problem is all my downloads stops working ;) [21:42] I have a system hanging at boot after fsck saying init:udevtrigger main process(415) terminated with status 1 same about post-stop process and sda1 clean and then just blinking [21:42] which desktop env? [21:42] munzir: ^ [21:42] yofel: kde [21:42] munzir: check the performance profile? [21:49] Volkodav: Try leaving it for a while, mine has gained a ~80second pause [21:50] I did fsck and then rebooted and then had it sitting for a while too [21:51] yofel: suspend is not checked but the others like dim display and screen energy are ticked [21:52] yofel: I have to go now [21:52] yofel: thanks anyway [22:00] wow, someone just thanked me for my celerity; I've never been thanked for that before [22:17] hello there everybody [22:17] I am concerned about the appmenu in Natty [22:18] will it properly support GTK and Qt? will it also support Gecko, VCL, the one Eclipse uses, wxWidgets, and maybe even more? [22:27] yo [22:30] mmdadawow: My guess is no, but those apps that don't support it I think will just work like they used to with the menus locally; I suspect there is nothing to stop other guis having the same interface to send to the stuff in the bar; not sure which ones have been written [22:30] penguin42: sorry but I don't understand everything you're trying to say [22:30] unsupported apps/toolkits(?) will have their menubar in their window [22:31] other than that I don't understand you [22:47] mmdadawow: So the appmenu stuff seems to be 2 parts (and I wasn't involved in it) one part that does the menu in the panel, and another part that plugs inot gtk to send the menu to the other part [22:48] mmdadawow: If an app isn't gtk and thus doesn't have the plugin, it won't send it's menu to the bar at the top; it'll just work like it used to [22:48] penguin42: there are other ways than GTK to implement a menu, Qt, VCL, wxW., etc. [22:48] penguin42: that is wrong I'm afraid, it currently supports Qt as well [22:48] mmdadawow: Yep and as far as I can tell they won't change at all with the new system; the app will just work like it used to [22:49] mmdadawow: Right, but I think the trick is that since there are two parts, you can do the plugin part for things like Qt or anything else [22:49] so there are no plans to support other things than GTK and Qt? [22:49] don't know - I'm just saying it would be possible to write plugins for anything [22:49] (* anything may be a bit far fetched) [22:50] id like to talk to someone who works on it then [23:00] yeh, not sure who that is - go look at the source [23:00] :S