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[01:52] <istvanchung> hey, anyone in ubuntu bug control: bug #694644 (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-pip/+bug/694644) should be set to medium-importance
[01:52] <ubot2> istvanchung: Bug 694644 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/694644 is private
[01:52] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 694644 in python-pip (Ubuntu) "package python-pip 0.3.1-1ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/pip', which is also in package pip 0:0.13-1 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
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[06:34] <Yuhong> I mistakenly set this bug to Fix Released: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/455067
[06:34] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 455067 in linux (Ubuntu) "[113818.216022] BUG: scheduling while atomic: dosemu.bin/12814/0x10000004 (affects: 4) (heat: 24)" [Undecided,Fix released]
[06:34] <Yuhong> Can anyone change it back to in progress?
[06:34] <Yuhong> I mistakenly set this bug to Fix Released: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/455067
[06:34] <Yuhong> Can anyone change it back to in progress?
[06:35] <yofel> Yuhong: are you working on this?
[06:36] <Yuhong> Nope. but read the bug in detail.
[06:37] <Yuhong> Until Bug #686158 is resolved, this should not be set to Fix Released, but I did it by mistake.
[06:37] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 686158 in linux (Ubuntu) "Maverick update to 2.6.35.9 stable release (affects: 1) (heat: 230)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/686158
[06:38] <yofel> Yuhong: sure, but it shouldn't be In Progress either until someone works on it
[06:39] <yofel> I'll expire it again since the information requested by jfo still wasn't added
[06:39] <Yuhong> But I know it will be fixed when bug 686158 is fixed.
[06:39] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 686158 in linux (Ubuntu) "Maverick update to 2.6.35.9 stable release (affects: 1) (heat: 230)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/686158
[06:40] <yofel> Yuhong: ok, but is anyone working on 455067 currently? That's what In Progress means, nothing else
[06:41] <Yuhong> I'm not sure, I will have to probably ask the kernel team.
[06:41] <yofel> Yuhong: please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status
[06:41] <Yuhong> Thanks.
[06:41] <yofel> Yuhong: as well as https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/KernelTeamBugPolicies
[06:43] <Yuhong> How about changing it back to New?
[06:43] <Yuhong> I will post a link to the bug at bug 686156.
[06:43] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 686156 in gnome-session (Ubuntu) "[COSMETIC] shutdown conflict dialogue shows "Untitled window" in task bar (affects: 1) (heat: 246)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/686156
[06:43] <yofel> Yuhong: please add the information requested in #7 and that can be done
[06:44] <yofel> it's david that should do this though
[06:44] <Yuhong> Yep, I can't do it.
[06:44] <Yuhong> http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1009.2/03143.html
[06:46] <Yuhong> Well, you see, bug 455067 will be resolved as a side effect of resolving bug 686158. What to do in this case?
[06:46] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 455067 in linux (Ubuntu) "[113818.216022] BUG: scheduling while atomic: dosemu.bin/12814/0x10000004 (affects: 4) (heat: 24)" [Undecided,Expired] https://launchpad.net/bugs/455067
[06:46] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 686158 in linux (Ubuntu) "Maverick update to 2.6.35.9 stable release (affects: 1) (heat: 230)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/686158
[06:46] <yofel> not sure, I don't touch kernel bugs usually, either ask JFo when he's here or in #ubuntu-kernel
[06:47] <Yuhong> But Fix Released is certainly not the right status.
[06:48] <Yuhong> And I can't changed it to any other status since I don't have right privileges.
[06:49] <Yuhong> Very poor design IMO.
[06:50] <yofel> Yuhong: well, kernel bugs need to follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/KernelTeamBugPolicies - and according to that the bug can only be set to Incomplete, which will turn into Expired after a whlie
[06:50] <yofel> *while
[06:51] <Yuhong> But the poor design about is that it lets an user change status to Fix Released without any warning, but can't change it back.
[06:52] <yofel> that's deliberate, maybe a warning could be added though
[06:52] <yofel> it wasn't like that in the past, bug we had too many users mistakenly reopnening bugs so it was locked to bug supervisors
[06:53] <yofel> Yuhong: if you want you can file a bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+filebug for a warning to be added there
[06:54] <Yuhong> Ok.
[10:08] <njin> please set importance hight to bug 694267
[10:08] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 694267 in unity (Ubuntu) "Unity Panel is not maintaining Single instance (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/694267
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[14:42] <xteejx> bug 603385 - the retracer dosen't seem to be doing anything with it, any ideas/help?
[14:42] <ubot2> xteejx: Bug 603385 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/603385 is private
[14:48] <xteejx> I've added the need-i386-retrace tag to the bug report, hopefully apport-retracer will pick it up
[14:49] <charlie-tca> Won't let me see it, but retrace is not doing anything to 9.04 now
[14:51] <xteejx> charlie-tca: It's a maverick bug
[14:52] <xteejx> I think maybe there was a glitch somewhere there were no tags that apport usually puts on the report
[14:52] <charlie-tca> could be, if the reporter did file it with apport
[14:56] <xteejx> It was me,  and it was a standard apport crash, so I would've done the usual bug filing
[14:57] <xteejx> I guess I'll find out in a few hours if adding that tag has nudged it :)
[14:57] <xteejx> PS Merry Xmas and a happy New Year all :)
[16:24] <hggdh> anyone trying to install the current ISO for Natty?
[16:27] <hggdh> charlie-tca: ^
[16:28] <hggdh> and good morning ;-)
[16:31] <charlie-tca> good morning. Which one?
[16:31] <charlie-tca> alternate image is still looping back to the beginning
[16:31] <charlie-tca> desktop just installed
[16:32] <hggdh> I was trying the server ISOs, what I see is a sudden reboot in the middle of the base install
[16:32] <hggdh> repeated on bare metal and libvirt
[16:32] <charlie-tca> you made it that far? Mine are rebooting during partitioning
[16:32] <hggdh> oh, so you do see a reboot
[16:33] <hggdh> have a bug on it?
[16:33] <charlie-tca> and it affects both Ubuntu and Xubuntu
[16:33] <charlie-tca> alternate 386 and amd64
[16:33] <charlie-tca> been doing it for a week
[16:33] <hggdh> all reboot during partitioning?
[16:33] <charlie-tca> yup
[16:33] <hggdh> darn!
[16:34] <hggdh> mine consistently reboot *after* partitioning, on base system install
[16:34] <charlie-tca> and I have been trying to find someone else experiencing it, but no one seems to be testing the images
[16:34]  * hggdh is
[16:34] <hggdh> hum
[16:34] <hggdh> under which package you reckon we should have the bug?
[16:34] <hggdh> I am unsure here
[16:34] <charlie-tca> Is it still debian-installer?
[16:35] <hggdh> on alternate, I think yes
[16:35] <hggdh> for the server, certainly
[16:35] <charlie-tca> that would be the package, then.
[16:35] <hggdh> I will open one under d-i, then, and mark critical
[16:35] <charlie-tca> I will confirm it
[16:36] <hggdh> k, just a few min for me to open it
[16:36] <charlie-tca> I have asked in #ubuntu+1 and #ubuntu-testing both for confirmation, but no one has run the images
[16:43] <hggdh> charlie-tca: bug 694772
[16:43] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 694772 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "Sudden reboot during server ISO install (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/694772
[16:44] <hggdh> so there are only both of us running tests now...
[16:44] <charlie-tca> near as I can tell. Maybe the hardware center is only running the desktop image?
[16:45] <hggdh> perhaps... IDK, but I was expecting them to be running the full gamut
[16:45] <charlie-tca> me too. I run them on Xubuntu, and if it fails, run Ubuntu
[16:48] <hggdh> but the desktop install succeeds, correct?
[16:51] <c2tarun> can anyone please look at bug 694776. I think its a wishlist. If so then can anyone please mark it as wish list.
[16:51] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 694776 in gnome-panel (Ubuntu) "On desktop, rightclick on DVD icon, clicking unmount, disables the DVD Drive (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/694776
[16:54] <charlie-tca> hggdh: yes, desktop installs are working
[16:54] <hggdh> c2tarun: why did you mark it as Opinion?
[16:54] <charlie-tca> c2tarun: that should be a duplicate
[16:55] <charlie-tca> I might be wrong, though
[16:55] <c2tarun> Sorry it was by mistake :(
[16:55] <c2tarun> What should I do on this bug>
[16:57] <c2tarun> \
[17:00] <c2tarun> charlie-tca: i think its not a duplicate
[17:01] <charlie-tca> okay, 2nd question: If it is clicking on desktop, why is the package "gnome-panel"?
[17:01] <charlie-tca> 3rd question: Does a restart let it work again? or is the only way to make it work again to remount the drive?
[17:02] <c2tarun> charlie-tca: oh! :P so its an invalid or incmplt bug
[17:02] <charlie-tca> 4th question: What does "unmount" mean if it does not mean unmount the drive? Is there an "eject" also, or did unmount replace it?
[17:03] <charlie-tca> 5th question:  What if you click unmount in places instead of the desktop?
[17:03] <charlie-tca> doesn't really seem triaged to me
[17:04] <c2tarun> actually i was trying to get these points ;) thnks 4 help
[17:10] <hggdh> c2tarun: another point, please always add a comment on why you set a Status
[17:11] <c2tarun> hggdh: sure. from next time i'll
[17:11] <hggdh> c2tarun: NP, and thank you for helping
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[20:32] <psusi> does bug #694831 look like a good candidate for convert to question?
[20:32] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 694831 in ubuntu "log out/chat button on top right corner on the panel isn't there anymore (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/694831
[20:39] <charlie-tca> Has that button been replaced now? what version of Ubuntu is that?
[20:39] <charlie-tca> It is not really a question. If the button has been removed, it is probably a design change.
[20:40] <charlie-tca> Unfortunately, without knowing what release the reporter is using, it is not really possible to do much.
[20:41] <penguin42> hmm, that's twice exaile has crashed in the last half hour, hasn't done that in months - I wonder what changed
[20:41] <charlie-tca> we don't know if the button disappeared during an upgrade, running updates, new installation of new release, etc.
[20:44] <psusi> charlie-tca: it sounds to me like "help, I removed my pannel, how do I get it back"
[20:45] <charlie-tca> Is it the whole panel, the indicator app, or something else?
[20:46] <charlie-tca> do you know?
[20:46] <charlie-tca> We don't start triaging by trying to guess what the reporter means, we ask questions to find out
[20:47]  * penguin42 plugs his USB crystal ball in
[20:47] <micahg> All signs point to unsure :)
[20:48] <psusi> charlie-tca: sounds like the indicator app to me
[20:48] <charlie-tca> Do not guess
[20:48] <charlie-tca> please ask the reporter for more information.
[20:48] <psusi> k
[20:49] <charlie-tca> You also think he lost the whole panel. you can not guess at what any report really means. You have to ask question of the reporter to find out,.
[20:51] <psusi> no... just the indicator app.. at least I think that's the one that provides the buttons he is talking about
[20:53] <charlie-tca> hm, Please read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage for information
[20:53] <charlie-tca> Also, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses helps a lot when triaging
[20:55] <psusi> ahh, it has been updated to cover questions.... sure sounds like this is a #4 to be, but I suppose it wouldn't hurt to confirm first
[20:55] <charlie-tca> If something disappeared, that is a bug unless it is a deliberate design decision to change it. The reporter did not ask a question.
[20:58] <psusi> he didn't say this happened when he upgraded or something.. I'm assuming not or he would have said so, but sure, it doesn't hurt to ask
[22:27] <BUGabundo> yo