[11:44] <duanedesign> 'lo all
[11:47] <nigelb> duanedesign: Belated Christmas wishes :)
[11:50] <duanedesign> nigelb: !
[11:50] <duanedesign> :)  thank you friend. Same to you
[11:50] <nigelb> :)
[12:07] <duanedesign> nigelb: I am reading Bit literacy. So i am trying to get my Inbox down to 0
[12:08] <duanedesign> i got down to under 3,000 last night :P
[12:09] <nigelb> You had 3000 mails?
[12:09] <nigelb> whoa
[12:20] <duanedesign> nigelb: i had 4200
[12:21] <duanedesign> i am down to just under 3,000. Going to work on it a bit each day.
[12:21] <duanedesign> I realized quickly it was not something i could do in one day.
[12:21] <duanedesign> :P
[13:23] <doctormo> Is anyone about?
[13:23] <Pendulum> doctormo: define anybody?
[13:23] <doctormo> I need someone to confirm whether launchpad bzr is broken or not.
[13:23] <doctormo> Pendulum: You've run ground control before right, so you have ssh keys on launchpad.
[13:24] <doctormo> just run `bzr branch lp:groundcontrol` and let me know if it works or fails.
[13:28] <Pendulum> doctormo: worked for me
[13:28] <doctormo> Thanks for the confirmation Pendulum, something'
[13:28] <doctormo> broken my end
[13:28] <Pendulum> doctormo: blame the storm? ;-)
[13:29] <doctormo> Pendulum: I'm stuck in Vermont because of that
[13:30] <Pendulum> tbh, I like the snow and I'm quite happy about it, but I'm in bad enough shape post-Christmas that I wouldn't be going anywhere even if there weren't snow
[13:34] <duanedesign> hello doctormo Pendulum
[13:34] <doctormo> Hey duanedesign
[13:38] <Pendulum> Hi duanedesign
[13:46] <duanedesign> hi Pendulum
[13:46] <duanedesign> Pendulum: i was hoping we would get some snow where I am
[13:46] <duanedesign> still waiting...
[13:46] <duanedesign> :)
[13:53] <Pendulum> duanedesign: I was feeling that way, but this storm has me quite happy :)
[14:09] <doctormo> How did your yule go duanedesign and Pendulum?
[14:13] <Pendulum> mine went well, if exhausting
[14:15] <duanedesign> doctormo: really good. thank you
[14:16] <doctormo> This trip to Vermont was well worth it, very fun. The food isn't quite the same as we have in the UK, nor the TV any good, but the company made up for it :-D
[14:16] <doctormo> Besides I still got DoctorWho Chrimbo special.
[14:16] <Pendulum> doctormo: yeah, we don't have the fabulous traditions of the Christmas Special the way the UK does
[14:46] <duanedesign> doctormo: you wouldn't have an idea about how I can make this search function not cap sensitive?     http://paste.ubuntu.com/547938/
[14:50] <doctormo> duanedesign:  here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/547940/
[14:50] <nigelb> Are there any svg of Ubuntu stickers?
[15:05] <doctormo> nigelb: What kind do you need/
[15:05] <doctormo> ?
[15:07] <nigelb> doctormo: possibly something to stick on laptops, let me get a scale and figure out the size of the archlinux sticker I have on it
[15:08] <nigelb> The ones I have are 10 cm x 3 cm
[15:11] <doctormo> nigelb: I think there are some that big on the standard Canonical sticker pack, you could get some from the store.
[15:14] <nigelb> doctormo: (a) Far too expensive
[15:15] <nigelb> (b) It most probably will not get here on time :|
[16:00] <nhandler> Didn't System76 or someone create stickers that they sent for the cost of an envelope+stamp ?
[16:19] <jcastro> doctormo: looks like you found a person who ndiswrapper'ed for no reason
[16:19] <jcastro> doctormo: I keep finding people like that with wireless
[16:19] <doctormo> jcastro: yep
[16:20] <doctormo> There is a glut of misinformation about how to fix various hardware issues.
[16:20] <jcastro> yeah
[16:20] <IdleOne> nhandler: system76 yes
[16:20] <doctormo> It's the same with wacom, the number of people compiling wacom drivers from source.
[16:20] <jcastro> I answered 2 yesterday with just "install this backport package"
[16:21] <doctormo> We should have some sort of big glitzy user campain: "Ubuntu friends don't let friends compile" with text: "Instead they use backports, find ppas and finally contact developers for help getting a ppa put together"
[16:22] <jcastro> Still, I think we should just ship all the hardware backport packages on the CD
[16:22] <jcastro> we have to maintain them anyway
[16:23] <nhandler> doctormo: Be careful with the 'find ppas' section. PPAs can be rather risky (depends on who runs them)
[16:25] <doctormo> jcastro: Perhaps, but there is always going to be some set of somethings that need extra.
[16:26] <jcastro> yeah, I just think that for hardware we should prioritize that
[16:26] <doctormo> Otherwise we'd have solutions for Epson scanners (driver needs to be downloaded but all work), Lexmark printers (plenty work but have closed drivers randomly located on the internet)
[16:26] <jcastro> are the epson ones PPDs?
[16:27] <doctormo> No, it's scanners, ppds are for printers.
[16:27] <jcastro> oh sorry, I swapped the terms in the sentence in my head
[16:28] <doctormo> It's the iscan (LGPL) with a set of proprietary modules, each of which is packaged on the website and cryptically in a non-ideal way.
[16:37] <jcastro> doctormo: do you know how to remove ndiswrapper and all that?
[16:37] <jcastro> maybe it'd be a good question
[16:42] <doctormo> jcastro: I will ask it.
[16:42] <jcastro> also
[16:42] <jcastro> that guy put a bunch of info in the comments
[16:42] <jcastro> you might want to ask him to add it to his question or put it in yours or something
[16:43] <jcastro> the newer users tend to forget that we're building a googleable archive for the next person
[16:48] <doctormo> Yes indeed, although I must say the karma during the Christmas break has died off, new users are asking questions but not up voting.
[16:49] <jcastro> it's ok
[16:49] <jcastro> after a while it'll bug him to accept the answer
[16:58] <jcastro> doctormo: your question is already on the first page of google
[17:18] <doctormo> That's the stack exchange google deal.
[17:19] <jcastro> I was just pointing out that you'll already be saving thousands from the crackrock guides on the net
[17:36] <nigelb> hello
[17:36] <nigelb> doctormo: http://twitter.com/#!/nigelbabu/status/19444375603912704 ;)
[17:48] <duanedesign> thank you doctormo :)
[17:50] <duanedesign> doctormo: ohh, i see. Yeah i was coming at that problem all wrong :P thanks again
[17:50] <nigelb> jcastro: Didn't know you changed your name :p
[17:51] <jcastro> heh
[17:51] <nigelb> all hail George Castro :D
[18:01] <maco> meerkat -->  http://www.loweringthebar.net/2010/12/how-the-great-kansas-city-meerkat-caper-unraveled.html
[18:06] <czajkowski> Aloha
[18:10] <Pendulum> hiya czajkowski
[18:13] <czajkowski> Pendulum: ello how's you ?
[18:34] <czajkowski> dear U1 music bloody behave before I smack you!
[18:38] <doctormo> czajkowski: Have you tried amazon music store?
[18:38] <czajkowski> why would I ?
[18:38] <czajkowski> want to use U1 and suppor thte services that are being developed
[19:11] <doctormo> czajkowski: Buy amazon is a service in banshee (which is default music app in 11.04) and it works in exactly the same way.
[19:11] <doctormo> but*
[19:12] <doctormo> So support the services that are being developed, use amazon music too.
[19:25] <pleia2> doctormo: huh, I didn't know that (I use amazon for music, even if it's downloader is annoyingly 32-bit only)
[19:25]  * pleia2 will have to check it out
[19:26] <doctormo> pleia2: I've been looking forward to amazon music store in rythembox since I'm anti-mono, but no-dice. Although I don't buy that much music anyway.
[19:27] <pleia2> I buy probably 6 albums a year, 1-2 of which I buy on CD because I collect them (like Disney soundtracks!)