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tux444ok00:01
tux444don't know00:01
tux444well i go to bed00:01
tux444happy to meet you00:01
tux444bye00:02
_Techie_gnight tux44400:03
tux444tx00:03
LinuX2halfHi, I want to know how long does it take for it to be detecting file systems?01:27
LinuX2halfHow long should this process be?01:27
LinuX2halfI'm installing the system and within 15 minutes it stops at detecting file systems.01:28
LinuX2halfI didn't have space for the swap partition.01:28
xubuntu038Test06:30
lightahey doesn't anyone know ahk ?08:17
well_laid_lawnI've never met him/her...08:25
lightaah thx, it's a program for macro in facts08:37
anasHello09:16
lightahi09:17
anasI need help.... I am new to Xubuntu.09:17
anasCould I present my question...09:18
anasI had installed Ubuntu 2 weeks ago on my desktop that already had windows09:18
anasthen, yesterday it prompted me to update some software and I accepted...09:19
Sysi!hi09:19
ubottuHi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!09:19
anasthen, it prompted me to update grub and I accepted...09:19
anasbut, it seems to have damaged my MBR09:20
anas(Windows was initially installed on Drive C... Later Ubuntu was installed on drive H)09:20
Sysiwubi?09:20
anastoday, I managed to fix my MBR using Windows CD09:21
Sysiubuntu doesn't hadle partitons as letters09:21
anaswhat is wubi?09:21
Sysi!wubi09:21
ubottuWubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for troubleshooting. Please  file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug. For Ubuntu Maverick/10.10 http://releases.ubuntu.com/maverick/wubi.exe09:21
Sysithat can cause weird problems09:21
Sysibut well, go on09:21
anasWell, now I get the GNU Grub screen and I don't know how to make it boot Ubuntu09:22
anasI see the grub command prompt... but, I don't know what to do... I need help09:22
Sysiah, that failing windows bootloader-fix09:24
Sysi!grub209:24
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub209:24
anasThanks much... Let me check out those links09:25
Sysisee "reinstalling grub2" or something like that behind the url abowe09:25
dude121not much going on in here10:08
dude121testingg10:08
psycho_oreos!hi| dude12110:09
ubottudude121: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!10:09
dude121thanks10:10
tux444hi10:12
dude121hi10:12
dude121just testing out irssi with spellcheck plugin10:12
tux444you talk to me ?10:12
tux444 talking10:13
dude121you or anyone10:13
tux444what is the spellcheck plugin ?10:13
Sysidude121: i recommend #ubuntu-offtopic or own test channel10:13
Sysitux444: some irssi plugin10:14
dude121can you guys see this spell correction lines?10:16
Sysiof course noy10:16
tux444and what he does ?10:16
dude121ok good10:16
dude121seems to be working well10:18
dude121i think its time for me to sleep10:18
Sysiirssi is one irc-client and it supports plugins10:18
psycho_oreosdere u go10:19
tux444ok10:19
dude121here is how i installed the spell check plugin http://blog.schmichael.com/2008/11/05/spell-checking-in-irssi/10:20
dude121time to go10:26
dude121night10:26
tux444just a question, i want to try to install xubuntu via telnet or ssh, if it's possible ?10:31
TheSheeptux444: how would that work?10:32
TheSheeptux444: I mean, how do you log in to that server if it doesn't have a system yet?10:32
well_laid_lawnthere's pxe if the comp supports it10:33
tux444i've a notebook who have the screen dead10:35
tux444and10:35
tux444i'm trying to connect a remote pc to this notebook during the install10:37
tux444@well : i don't have pxe server10:38
well_laid_lawn!install10:38
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate10:38
tux444i've just a little LAN in my home10:38
tux444ok thanks10:38
TheSheeptux444: well, doesn't the notebook have a vga out?10:45
tux444yes, i have already tried to connect an other screen, but not work10:47
tux444work during the init10:48
tux444but stop after10:48
tux444i said "screen is dead" to simplify the problem but in fact, after on of two minute after start the computer, screen show things like rainbow10:52
tux444and pc become unusable :(10:52
tux444you understand ?10:52
GeoZoohey ho everybody11:02
tux444hi11:02
GeoZoodoes someone have time to help me with a wlan problem11:02
GeoZooi googled and tried a lot of things but still my wlan card says it isn't ready11:03
GeoZoodoes anyone have experience with a iwl4965?11:28
TheSheepcheck the forums11:28
psycho_oreosGeoZoo, it might be an issue with something like network manager that has a hold of the device.. not that I own that card but I've seen that message numerous times only to find out it was something like a network manager tool or wicd, etc to tamper with it11:31
GeoZoopsycho_oreos, in the threads i saw everybody suggested to deinstall network manager and install wicd11:36
psycho_oreosGeoZoo, its a matter of preferences, either way both of them can cause wireless link to not be ready because its being managed by some daemon11:37
GeoZoothis guis confuses me anyway, prior xubuntu i used gentoo where i usually work in the terminal, but i cant find any threads dealing with tracking the problem in the terminal11:37
psycho_oreosso its not either of those network managing tools?11:38
GeoZooi dont think so11:38
GeoZooi have the problem since 2 years :)11:38
psycho_oreoswell I'd check to see if either of them are running in the background11:38
psycho_oreosps aux| grep networkmanager| grep wicd11:39
GeoZooonce with a gentoo setup everything worked fine, but after an update i never get it running again11:39
psycho_oreossomething like that11:39
psycho_oreoswell gentoo can vary highly on how you set it up in the first place, it might be that the driver wasn't working well at the time you setup gentoo, maybe it was in wip11:40
GeoZooyeah maybe, i updated the kernel without backuping the old one (stupid me)11:41
GeoZoook i try to do the ps thing11:41
psycho_oreoswell you can get something like compat-wireless which might be in portage tree. now under xubuntu/ubuntu it would be linux-backports iirc11:43
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GeoZoopsycho_oreos, sorry for that question, but i think i didnt understand the backports, are backports driver from new ubuntu versions for older installations, or old drivers for new versions?11:46
GeoZooi didnt got it when i read the article11:46
psycho_oreosnew drivers for old/current versions of installed ubuntu (ultimately it depends on which release you have got)11:47
GeoZoooh, but im using 10.1011:47
GeoZoowhich is maybe the explanation that i only can find backports for that version?11:47
psycho_oreosnothing wrong with getting it if the current driver you are using is either playing up or you want more functionality, etc11:48
psycho_oreoswell no the backports afaiu is new builds of drivers made available tailored to your version11:48
psycho_oreosso long as you get the right meta-package that is11:49
GeoZoohmm, ok so it make sence to try the backports if somethings seems wrong with the driver11:53
GeoZoops aux | grep wicd11:53
psycho_oreosor you want to be part of the bleeding edge sort of to say11:53
GeoZoosays that the wicd deamon, client and monitor.py is running11:53
psycho_oreosmight be an easier way to see if its actually there without having to read the entire line by using something like `ps aux| grep wicd| wc -l'11:53
psycho_oreosso kill those11:54
GeoZoo:D ah ok, sorry thought such releases are already for noobs :D11:54
psycho_oreosthe distro doesn't define who you are.. sure, people see ubuntu are for newbs but anyone can be a newb regardless of which distro they so choose11:55
GeoZoothis command says: 4 processes or threads open11:55
psycho_oreoswell yeah, so it goes to show you have wicd running which should be killed as they could interfere with what the user ultimately wanted11:56
GeoZoooh, no no i think you got me wrong, i meant that using always the newest backports is no good idea for noobs, since you said "bleeding edge sort"11:56
GeoZooi was a absolutly noob when i setup my first gentoo linux :D11:57
psycho_oreosahh that, well not necessarily, ultimately it depends on how willing the new user wants11:57
psycho_oreoss/wants/is/11:57
GeoZoohmm, from this point of view... i agree :)11:58
sharehelolo12:00
sharehello12:00
GeoZoohi share :)12:00
shareright now im using gnome in xubuntu12:01
sharebut the computer is really slow12:01
sharehow can i use other desktop interface12:01
Sysiinstall and select on login12:01
sharecan i use lxde12:01
share?12:01
GeoZoopsycho_oreos, i killed all wicd processes and restarted the network by /etc/init.d/networking restart12:01
Sysishare: why not12:02
psycho_oreosshare, you need to install lubuntu-desktop12:02
GeoZoobut dmesg says again link not ready12:02
sharehmm12:02
Sysinot necessarily entire lubuntu-desktop12:02
psycho_oreosGeoZoo, might need to reload the driver me thinks12:02
shareei12:03
sharexubuntu is not upgrading the kernel12:03
shareThe following packages have been kept back: linux-generic linux-image-generic12:04
GeoZoojust to be sure, you mean with modprobe -r <driver>, modprobe <driver>, right?12:04
psycho_oreosGeoZoo, yup12:04
psycho_oreosmodprobe -r iwl4965 && modprobe iwl496512:04
GeoZoomhm, lspci -k says its iwlagn, i think it makes no difference12:06
psycho_oreoswell iwlagn would be the target then :)12:06
shareoh sudo apt-get dist-upgrade12:06
psycho_oreoslike I said I don't know I don't have that chipset so I'm just `stabbing in the dark'12:07
GeoZooi reload the driver, restarted the network and dmesg says: link is not ready :(12:07
psycho_oreosmake sure that wicd isn't auto spawned again by init12:07
psycho_oreosmight need to do something like `/etc/init.d/wicd stop'12:08
GeoZooi saw that the n function is disabled, i look after the thread where they enabled it, maybe it helps12:08
psycho_oreosdoubt it12:08
GeoZoooh, i tried the ps command it says: 0 so i assume it doesn't spawned12:08
psycho_oreoshmm12:09
psycho_oreoscheck the last few lines of dmesg, it might be rfkill getting in the way (which I somewhat doubt but then again it might be remotely possible)12:09
GeoZoouh, i think we are on the right track, i find that on the last lines of dmesg (please be patient, i have to type the think into irc)12:11
psycho_oreosuse something like pastebinit12:12
knome!pastebin12:12
GeoZoo...apparmor="DENIED"...12:12
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.12:12
GeoZooiwlagn ... PCI INT A  disabled12:12
GeoZoothis will not work since i use mirc on my fathers pc and have my laptop next to it12:13
shareWhy "menu editor" doesnt change the menus?12:13
psycho_oreosheh a spare network cable comes in handy :D12:13
GeoZooi dont want that the wired connection make me think the network is working or interference with it12:13
psycho_oreoswell its a time saver but its up to you if you wanted to just type out the lines :)12:14
GeoZoowhich remind me that i should stop the tg3 driver ^^12:14
GeoZooto be honest, i prefer to type the lines ;-)12:14
psycho_oreoshmm, the first line sounds like SELinux coming into play and the second line I'm not sure.. it might be ACPI playing up there12:15
GeoZoo2 year ago i thought to solved the problem, 2 min. later after i closed the thread in the gentoo forum, i understood that my wired was working not my wireless12:15
psycho_oreosthere might be useful lines before that unless if the previous line before that was to do with apparmour12:15
psycho_oreoslol there you go12:16
knomeshare, because the menu editor edits the gnome menus. right now, there is no way to edit the xfce menus via gui12:17
GeoZoois it helpfull to remove my dmesg.log file, restart the wlan stuff and post the new dmesg?12:18
psycho_oreosnot really12:19
psycho_oreosusually the dmesg output would have timestamps on the far left of the output, all you need to do is just run tail on it to read the latest lines12:19
GeoZoook i plugin my laptop and post the dmesg of the restart :)12:21
psycho_oreosyou might want to use pastebin if its more than 2 lines12:22
knomeGeoZoo_laptop, ...i want you to use pastebin if it's more than 2 lines12:24
GeoZoo_laptopknome, ok12:24
knomethanks :)12:25
psycho_oreosthere you go, from horse's mouth12:25
psycho_oreoss/horse\`s/horses/12:27
GeoZoo_laptophttp://pastebin.com/J4PpLrkD12:27
psycho_oreoshmm nothing about device being disabled, but then again that output is before you killed wicd I bet12:28
GeoZoo_laptopdo refer to the INIT disabled?, nop after i killed wicd12:29
psycho_oreoshmm12:29
psycho_oreoslol I'm getting to the point of being stumped.. just restart wicd and use wicd to connect wirelessly12:30
GeoZoo_laptop:), life can be so easy12:31
GeoZoo_laptopbut not in every case ;-)12:31
psycho_oreoswell I'm multitasking, so its not easy for me to use all my brain resources to figure it out :) its definitely a hook somewhere12:32
* psycho_oreos was thinking of using something like lsof but that isn't particularly useful12:32
GeoZoo_laptophmm, i will breakfast with my grandpa, i try it later again.12:33
psycho_oreosand speaking of which, my dinner was way overdue whilst I was too busy getting my revenge back12:34
GeoZoo_laptopthanks for you help, at least i learned two new things (using two | in one command and first time using pastebin :D)12:34
psycho_oreoswe all had to start from somewhere :)12:34
GeoZoo_laptoptrue12:34
GeoZoo_laptopthanks again and enjoy your meal (if i got it right)12:36
psycho_oreosthanks, you too12:36
knomemeal sounds good, but one should fetch it first for grocery store and prepare it12:44
mohadilahello14:17
knomehey14:19
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ShootEmUpello there!16:06
* woodzy is away: I'm busy16:41
knomewoodzy, hey, please do not use public away messages16:47
woodzysorry, was setting my chat up. :-\17:02
woodzydoes anyone know how to disable the touch pad on a laptop when a usb or ps/2 mouse is plugged in?17:03
TheSheepwoodzy: automatically? you'd probably need a hal script17:14
woodzythesheep: i'm a newbie. sorry. how do i do that?17:27
TheSheepwoodzy: no idea, that's adavanced17:27
TheSheepwoodzy: but I just thought about something else17:27
TheSheepwoodzy: if you go to thunar preferences17:28
TheSheepswitch to advanced tab17:28
TheSheepclick on 'configure'17:28
woodzyi surprised that option is not built into any other variant of Ubuntu other than Kubuntu?17:28
TheSheepthen to 'input devices' tab17:28
woodzyok i'm there.17:28
TheSheepyou can set a command to be executed when you connect your mouse17:28
TheSheepyou can also try installing gsynaptics17:30
woodzyoh, is that a driver for the synaptics touchpad?17:31
TheSheepno, a gui settings dialog17:31
woodzyi'll try that first. :)17:31
woodzythank you.17:31
TheSheepthere is also tpconfig17:32
=== peregrinator_six is now known as Monarquista
TheSheepyou could use that in connection with thunar...17:32
woodzyOK. thanks.17:33
TheSheepI think gsynaptics has been renamed to gpointing-device-settings17:33
TheSheepit has a 'disable when any other devices are connected' option17:34
GeoZoo_laptoppsycho_oreos, are you still here?17:34
woodzyok, thanks again, sheep.17:36
GeoZoo_laptopsomeone there who can help with my wireless?17:37
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ShootEmUphello everyone18:09
charlie-tcaHello18:10
charlie-tcaYou any good with wireless?18:10
ShootEmUpyeah18:10
charlie-tcaGeoZoo: here's help...18:10
ShootEmUpGeoZoo, whats the problem18:10
ShootEmUpGeoZoo, you there?18:12
charlie-tcamaybe just taking a poll?18:12
ShootEmUphey lighta18:14
lightahey ShootEmUp , how are u ?18:14
ShootEmUpdoing fine, you?18:14
lightaI didn't try etx2read yet18:14
ShootEmUpit works good, but is read only18:15
ShootEmUpbut is the only program I've found that can read ext418:15
lightaah =( well, a leat I can read18:15
ShootEmUpIt's for the best, cause you don't wanna screw ubuntu up18:16
lightatrue, but I wanted to edit some file eventually18:18
ShootEmUpthere are other ones that can write, just not ext4, or large inode size18:19
ShootEmUpIs GeoZoo, or GeoZoo_laptop back yet?18:19
lightacan I add a swap partition for my xubuntu ? i've goot none at the moment18:21
ShootEmUpyup18:21
TheSheeplighta: you can even add a swap file18:21
TheSheeplighta: easier to set up and as fast18:22
GeoZoo_laptopShootEmUp, yes he is :)18:22
GeoZoo_laptopsorry still looking around in the internet for a solution to my wlan problem18:22
ShootEmUpok GeoZoo, what is your problem?18:22
lightatought swap partition was better than swap file18:22
ShootEmUplighta, try this http://www.fs-driver.org/18:22
GeoZoo_laptopmy wlan card isnt connection to a router18:23
ShootEmUpswap file can not hibernate18:23
ShootEmUpbut everything else is the same18:23
GeoZoo_laptopneither wep, wap, or none encryption18:23
ShootEmUpGeoZoo, what is the make and model of your wifi card?18:23
GeoZoo_laptopi can scann wlan and find essids, if this is what you mean?18:23
lightaShootEmUp, you already gave me this link, is there something I should look for swap ? I took .exe already for windows18:23
GeoZoo_laptopintel 4965 agn, sorry what is a make?18:24
ShootEmUpyou told me, googleing now...18:24
ShootEmUpahh gotta do something, brb18:25
GeoZoo_laptopdoh :)18:25
woodzysheep, thanks it worked: gpointing-device-settings18:29
ShootEmUpGeoZoo, try this link http://www.intellinuxwireless.org/?n=Downloads look for your cards linux drivers18:33
ShootEmUplighta, read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq18:35
GeoZoo_laptopShootEmUp, the firmeware version which i get from dmesg is the same than on the webpage you gave me, should i try it anyway? maybe you have also a howto for installing the microcode by hand? thanks18:36
GeoZoo_laptopno wait, im getting lacy, i will google for a howto :)18:37
ShootEmUpGeoZoo, apparently your wifi card cannot connect to N networks with ubuntu18:42
ShootEmUpIf your AP is only using N then you will not be able to connect18:43
ShootEmUphttp://www.art.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149114718:44
ShootEmUpalso you might wanna try this18:44
GeoZoo_laptophmm, strange, xChat always runs in a ping timeout...18:47
ShootEmUpnever had a problem here, seems to be a internet erorr not Xchats18:49
GeoZoo_laptopmirc on my win xp machine (thats the reason for GeoZoo ;-)) never disconected, but i guess it is a bad configuration of anything18:51
ShootEmUpguess so, anyway you try anything on your wifi card?18:52
GeoZoo_laptopyes, sure, just looked up what to do with the ucode :)18:53
ShootEmUpsorry I can't stick around, but I have to go19:01
ShootEmUpttyl, everyone!19:01
=== Monarquista is now known as peregrinator_six
woodzysheep, you around?20:05
chkdskHow would I go about replacing Thunar with Nautilus as default file manager?21:51

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