[00:01] <tux444> ok
[00:01] <tux444> don't know
[00:01] <tux444> well i go to bed
[00:01] <tux444> happy to meet you
[00:02] <tux444> bye
[00:03] <_Techie_> gnight tux444
[00:03] <tux444> tx
[01:27] <LinuX2half> Hi, I want to know how long does it take for it to be detecting file systems?
[01:27] <LinuX2half> How long should this process be?
[01:28] <LinuX2half> I'm installing the system and within 15 minutes it stops at detecting file systems.
[01:28] <LinuX2half> I didn't have space for the swap partition.
[06:30] <xubuntu038> Test
[08:17] <lighta> hey doesn't anyone know ahk ?
[08:25] <well_laid_lawn> I've never met him/her...
[08:37] <lighta> ah thx, it's a program for macro in facts
[09:16] <anas> Hello
[09:17] <lighta> hi
[09:17] <anas> I need help.... I am new to Xubuntu.
[09:18] <anas> Could I present my question...
[09:18] <anas> I had installed Ubuntu 2 weeks ago on my desktop that already had windows
[09:19] <anas> then, yesterday it prompted me to update some software and I accepted...
[09:19] <Sysi> !hi
[09:19] <anas> then, it prompted me to update grub and I accepted...
[09:20] <anas> but, it seems to have damaged my MBR
[09:20] <anas> (Windows was initially installed on Drive C... Later Ubuntu was installed on drive H)
[09:20] <Sysi> wubi?
[09:21] <anas> today, I managed to fix my MBR using Windows CD
[09:21] <Sysi> ubuntu doesn't hadle partitons as letters
[09:21] <anas> what is wubi?
[09:21] <Sysi> !wubi
[09:21] <Sysi> that can cause weird problems
[09:21] <Sysi> but well, go on
[09:22] <anas> Well, now I get the GNU Grub screen and I don't know how to make it boot Ubuntu
[09:22] <anas> I see the grub command prompt... but, I don't know what to do... I need help
[09:24] <Sysi> ah, that failing windows bootloader-fix
[09:24] <Sysi> !grub2
[09:25] <anas> Thanks much... Let me check out those links
[09:25] <Sysi> see "reinstalling grub2" or something like that behind the url abowe
[10:08] <dude121> not much going on in here
[10:08] <dude121> testingg
[10:09] <psycho_oreos> !hi| dude121
[10:10] <dude121> thanks
[10:12] <tux444> hi
[10:12] <dude121> hi
[10:12] <dude121> just testing out irssi with spellcheck plugin
[10:12] <tux444> you talk to me ?
[10:13] <tux444>  talking
[10:13] <dude121> you or anyone
[10:13] <tux444> what is the spellcheck plugin ?
[10:13] <Sysi> dude121: i recommend #ubuntu-offtopic or own test channel
[10:14] <Sysi> tux444: some irssi plugin
[10:16] <dude121> can you guys see this spell correction lines?
[10:16] <Sysi> of course noy
[10:16] <tux444> and what he does ?
[10:16] <dude121> ok good
[10:18] <dude121> seems to be working well
[10:18] <dude121> i think its time for me to sleep
[10:18] <Sysi> irssi is one irc-client and it supports plugins
[10:19] <psycho_oreos> dere u go
[10:19] <tux444> ok
[10:20] <dude121> here is how i installed the spell check plugin http://blog.schmichael.com/2008/11/05/spell-checking-in-irssi/
[10:26] <dude121> time to go
[10:26] <dude121> night
[10:31] <tux444> just a question, i want to try to install xubuntu via telnet or ssh, if it's possible ?
[10:32] <TheSheep> tux444: how would that work?
[10:32] <TheSheep> tux444: I mean, how do you log in to that server if it doesn't have a system yet?
[10:33] <well_laid_lawn> there's pxe if the comp supports it
[10:35] <tux444> i've a notebook who have the screen dead
[10:35] <tux444> and
[10:37] <tux444> i'm trying to connect a remote pc to this notebook during the install
[10:38] <tux444> @well : i don't have pxe server
[10:38] <well_laid_lawn> !install
[10:38] <tux444> i've just a little LAN in my home
[10:38] <tux444> ok thanks
[10:45] <TheSheep> tux444: well, doesn't the notebook have a vga out?
[10:47] <tux444> yes, i have already tried to connect an other screen, but not work
[10:48] <tux444> work during the init
[10:48] <tux444> but stop after
[10:52] <tux444> i said "screen is dead" to simplify the problem but in fact, after on of two minute after start the computer, screen show things like rainbow
[10:52] <tux444> and pc become unusable :(
[10:52] <tux444> you understand ?
[11:02] <GeoZoo> hey ho everybody
[11:02] <tux444> hi
[11:02] <GeoZoo> does someone have time to help me with a wlan problem
[11:03] <GeoZoo> i googled and tried a lot of things but still my wlan card says it isn't ready
[11:28] <GeoZoo> does anyone have experience with a iwl4965?
[11:28] <TheSheep> check the forums
[11:31] <psycho_oreos> GeoZoo, it might be an issue with something like network manager that has a hold of the device.. not that I own that card but I've seen that message numerous times only to find out it was something like a network manager tool or wicd, etc to tamper with it
[11:36] <GeoZoo> psycho_oreos, in the threads i saw everybody suggested to deinstall network manager and install wicd
[11:37] <psycho_oreos> GeoZoo, its a matter of preferences, either way both of them can cause wireless link to not be ready because its being managed by some daemon
[11:37] <GeoZoo> this guis confuses me anyway, prior xubuntu i used gentoo where i usually work in the terminal, but i cant find any threads dealing with tracking the problem in the terminal
[11:38] <psycho_oreos> so its not either of those network managing tools?
[11:38] <GeoZoo> i dont think so
[11:38] <GeoZoo> i have the problem since 2 years :)
[11:38] <psycho_oreos> well I'd check to see if either of them are running in the background
[11:39] <psycho_oreos> ps aux| grep networkmanager| grep wicd
[11:39] <GeoZoo> once with a gentoo setup everything worked fine, but after an update i never get it running again
[11:39] <psycho_oreos> something like that
[11:40] <psycho_oreos> well gentoo can vary highly on how you set it up in the first place, it might be that the driver wasn't working well at the time you setup gentoo, maybe it was in wip
[11:41] <GeoZoo> yeah maybe, i updated the kernel without backuping the old one (stupid me)
[11:41] <GeoZoo> ok i try to do the ps thing
[11:43] <psycho_oreos> well you can get something like compat-wireless which might be in portage tree. now under xubuntu/ubuntu it would be linux-backports iirc
[11:46] <GeoZoo> psycho_oreos, sorry for that question, but i think i didnt understand the backports, are backports driver from new ubuntu versions for older installations, or old drivers for new versions?
[11:46] <GeoZoo> i didnt got it when i read the article
[11:47] <psycho_oreos> new drivers for old/current versions of installed ubuntu (ultimately it depends on which release you have got)
[11:47] <GeoZoo> oh, but im using 10.10
[11:47] <GeoZoo> which is maybe the explanation that i only can find backports for that version?
[11:48] <psycho_oreos> nothing wrong with getting it if the current driver you are using is either playing up or you want more functionality, etc
[11:48] <psycho_oreos> well no the backports afaiu is new builds of drivers made available tailored to your version
[11:49] <psycho_oreos> so long as you get the right meta-package that is
[11:53] <GeoZoo> hmm, ok so it make sence to try the backports if somethings seems wrong with the driver
[11:53] <GeoZoo> ps aux | grep wicd
[11:53] <psycho_oreos> or you want to be part of the bleeding edge sort of to say
[11:53] <GeoZoo> says that the wicd deamon, client and monitor.py is running
[11:53] <psycho_oreos> might be an easier way to see if its actually there without having to read the entire line by using something like `ps aux| grep wicd| wc -l'
[11:54] <psycho_oreos> so kill those
[11:54] <GeoZoo> :D ah ok, sorry thought such releases are already for noobs :D
[11:55] <psycho_oreos> the distro doesn't define who you are.. sure, people see ubuntu are for newbs but anyone can be a newb regardless of which distro they so choose
[11:55] <GeoZoo> this command says: 4 processes or threads open
[11:56] <psycho_oreos> well yeah, so it goes to show you have wicd running which should be killed as they could interfere with what the user ultimately wanted
[11:56] <GeoZoo> oh, no no i think you got me wrong, i meant that using always the newest backports is no good idea for noobs, since you said "bleeding edge sort"
[11:57] <GeoZoo> i was a absolutly noob when i setup my first gentoo linux :D
[11:57] <psycho_oreos> ahh that, well not necessarily, ultimately it depends on how willing the new user wants
[11:57] <psycho_oreos> s/wants/is/
[11:58] <GeoZoo> hmm, from this point of view... i agree :)
[12:00] <share> helolo
[12:00] <share> hello
[12:00] <GeoZoo> hi share :)
[12:01] <share> right now im using gnome in xubuntu
[12:01] <share> but the computer is really slow
[12:01] <share> how can i use other desktop interface
[12:01] <Sysi> install and select on login
[12:01] <share> can i use lxde
[12:01] <share> ?
[12:01] <GeoZoo> psycho_oreos, i killed all wicd processes and restarted the network by /etc/init.d/networking restart
[12:02] <Sysi> share: why not
[12:02] <psycho_oreos> share, you need to install lubuntu-desktop
[12:02] <GeoZoo> but dmesg says again link not ready
[12:02] <share> hmm
[12:02] <Sysi> not necessarily entire lubuntu-desktop
[12:02] <psycho_oreos> GeoZoo, might need to reload the driver me thinks
[12:03] <share> ei
[12:03] <share> xubuntu is not upgrading the kernel
[12:04] <share> The following packages have been kept back: linux-generic linux-image-generic
[12:04] <GeoZoo> just to be sure, you mean with modprobe -r <driver>, modprobe <driver>, right?
[12:04] <psycho_oreos> GeoZoo, yup
[12:04] <psycho_oreos> modprobe -r iwl4965 && modprobe iwl4965
[12:06] <GeoZoo> mhm, lspci -k says its iwlagn, i think it makes no difference
[12:06] <psycho_oreos> well iwlagn would be the target then :)
[12:06] <share> oh sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:07] <psycho_oreos> like I said I don't know I don't have that chipset so I'm just `stabbing in the dark'
[12:07] <GeoZoo> i reload the driver, restarted the network and dmesg says: link is not ready :(
[12:07] <psycho_oreos> make sure that wicd isn't auto spawned again by init
[12:08] <psycho_oreos> might need to do something like `/etc/init.d/wicd stop'
[12:08] <GeoZoo> i saw that the n function is disabled, i look after the thread where they enabled it, maybe it helps
[12:08] <psycho_oreos> doubt it
[12:08] <GeoZoo> oh, i tried the ps command it says: 0 so i assume it doesn't spawned
[12:09] <psycho_oreos> hmm
[12:09] <psycho_oreos> check the last few lines of dmesg, it might be rfkill getting in the way (which I somewhat doubt but then again it might be remotely possible)
[12:11] <GeoZoo> uh, i think we are on the right track, i find that on the last lines of dmesg (please be patient, i have to type the think into irc)
[12:12] <psycho_oreos> use something like pastebinit
[12:12] <knome> !pastebin
[12:12] <GeoZoo> ...apparmor="DENIED"...
[12:12] <GeoZoo> iwlagn ... PCI INT A  disabled
[12:13] <GeoZoo> this will not work since i use mirc on my fathers pc and have my laptop next to it
[12:13] <share> Why "menu editor" doesnt change the menus?
[12:13] <psycho_oreos> heh a spare network cable comes in handy :D
[12:13] <GeoZoo> i dont want that the wired connection make me think the network is working or interference with it
[12:14] <psycho_oreos> well its a time saver but its up to you if you wanted to just type out the lines :)
[12:14] <GeoZoo> which remind me that i should stop the tg3 driver ^^
[12:14] <GeoZoo> to be honest, i prefer to type the lines ;-)
[12:15] <psycho_oreos> hmm, the first line sounds like SELinux coming into play and the second line I'm not sure.. it might be ACPI playing up there
[12:15] <GeoZoo> 2 year ago i thought to solved the problem, 2 min. later after i closed the thread in the gentoo forum, i understood that my wired was working not my wireless
[12:15] <psycho_oreos> there might be useful lines before that unless if the previous line before that was to do with apparmour
[12:16] <psycho_oreos> lol there you go
[12:17] <knome> share, because the menu editor edits the gnome menus. right now, there is no way to edit the xfce menus via gui
[12:18] <GeoZoo> is it helpfull to remove my dmesg.log file, restart the wlan stuff and post the new dmesg?
[12:19] <psycho_oreos> not really
[12:19] <psycho_oreos> usually the dmesg output would have timestamps on the far left of the output, all you need to do is just run tail on it to read the latest lines
[12:21] <GeoZoo> ok i plugin my laptop and post the dmesg of the restart :)
[12:22] <psycho_oreos> you might want to use pastebin if its more than 2 lines
[12:24] <knome> GeoZoo_laptop, ...i want you to use pastebin if it's more than 2 lines
[12:24] <GeoZoo_laptop> knome, ok
[12:25] <knome> thanks :)
[12:25] <psycho_oreos> there you go, from horse's mouth
[12:27] <psycho_oreos> s/horse\`s/horses/
[12:27] <GeoZoo_laptop> http://pastebin.com/J4PpLrkD
[12:28] <psycho_oreos> hmm nothing about device being disabled, but then again that output is before you killed wicd I bet
[12:29] <GeoZoo_laptop> do refer to the INIT disabled?, nop after i killed wicd
[12:29] <psycho_oreos> hmm
[12:30] <psycho_oreos> lol I'm getting to the point of being stumped.. just restart wicd and use wicd to connect wirelessly
[12:31] <GeoZoo_laptop> :), life can be so easy
[12:31] <GeoZoo_laptop> but not in every case ;-)
[12:32] <psycho_oreos> well I'm multitasking, so its not easy for me to use all my brain resources to figure it out :) its definitely a hook somewhere
[12:32]  * psycho_oreos was thinking of using something like lsof but that isn't particularly useful
[12:33] <GeoZoo_laptop> hmm, i will breakfast with my grandpa, i try it later again.
[12:34] <psycho_oreos> and speaking of which, my dinner was way overdue whilst I was too busy getting my revenge back
[12:34] <GeoZoo_laptop> thanks for you help, at least i learned two new things (using two | in one command and first time using pastebin :D)
[12:34] <psycho_oreos> we all had to start from somewhere :)
[12:34] <GeoZoo_laptop> true
[12:36] <GeoZoo_laptop> thanks again and enjoy your meal (if i got it right)
[12:36] <psycho_oreos> thanks, you too
[12:44] <knome> meal sounds good, but one should fetch it first for grocery store and prepare it
[14:17] <mohadila> hello
[14:19] <knome> hey
[16:06] <ShootEmUp> ello there!
[16:41]  * woodzy is away: I'm busy
[16:47] <knome> woodzy, hey, please do not use public away messages
[17:02] <woodzy> sorry, was setting my chat up. :-\
[17:03] <woodzy> does anyone know how to disable the touch pad on a laptop when a usb or ps/2 mouse is plugged in?
[17:14] <TheSheep> woodzy: automatically? you'd probably need a hal script
[17:27] <woodzy> thesheep: i'm a newbie. sorry. how do i do that?
[17:27] <TheSheep> woodzy: no idea, that's adavanced
[17:27] <TheSheep> woodzy: but I just thought about something else
[17:28] <TheSheep> woodzy: if you go to thunar preferences
[17:28] <TheSheep> switch to advanced tab
[17:28] <TheSheep> click on 'configure'
[17:28] <woodzy> i surprised that option is not built into any other variant of Ubuntu other than Kubuntu?
[17:28] <TheSheep> then to 'input devices' tab
[17:28] <woodzy> ok i'm there.
[17:28] <TheSheep> you can set a command to be executed when you connect your mouse
[17:30] <TheSheep> you can also try installing gsynaptics
[17:31] <woodzy> oh, is that a driver for the synaptics touchpad?
[17:31] <TheSheep> no, a gui settings dialog
[17:31] <woodzy> i'll try that first. :)
[17:31] <woodzy> thank you.
[17:32] <TheSheep> there is also tpconfig
[17:32] <TheSheep> you could use that in connection with thunar...
[17:33] <woodzy> OK. thanks.
[17:33] <TheSheep> I think gsynaptics has been renamed to gpointing-device-settings
[17:34] <TheSheep> it has a 'disable when any other devices are connected' option
[17:34] <GeoZoo_laptop> psycho_oreos, are you still here?
[17:36] <woodzy> ok, thanks again, sheep.
[17:37] <GeoZoo_laptop> someone there who can help with my wireless?
[18:09] <ShootEmUp> hello everyone
[18:10] <charlie-tca> Hello
[18:10] <charlie-tca> You any good with wireless?
[18:10] <ShootEmUp> yeah
[18:10] <charlie-tca> GeoZoo: here's help...
[18:10] <ShootEmUp> GeoZoo, whats the problem
[18:12] <ShootEmUp> GeoZoo, you there?
[18:12] <charlie-tca> maybe just taking a poll?
[18:14] <ShootEmUp> hey lighta
[18:14] <lighta> hey ShootEmUp , how are u ?
[18:14] <ShootEmUp> doing fine, you?
[18:14] <lighta> I didn't try etx2read yet
[18:15] <ShootEmUp> it works good, but is read only
[18:15] <ShootEmUp> but is the only program I've found that can read ext4
[18:15] <lighta> ah =( well, a leat I can read
[18:16] <ShootEmUp> It's for the best, cause you don't wanna screw ubuntu up
[18:18] <lighta> true, but I wanted to edit some file eventually
[18:19] <ShootEmUp> there are other ones that can write, just not ext4, or large inode size
[18:19] <ShootEmUp> Is GeoZoo, or GeoZoo_laptop back yet?
[18:21] <lighta> can I add a swap partition for my xubuntu ? i've goot none at the moment
[18:21] <ShootEmUp> yup
[18:21] <TheSheep> lighta: you can even add a swap file
[18:22] <TheSheep> lighta: easier to set up and as fast
[18:22] <GeoZoo_laptop> ShootEmUp, yes he is :)
[18:22] <GeoZoo_laptop> sorry still looking around in the internet for a solution to my wlan problem
[18:22] <ShootEmUp> ok GeoZoo, what is your problem?
[18:22] <lighta> tought swap partition was better than swap file
[18:22] <ShootEmUp> lighta, try this http://www.fs-driver.org/
[18:23] <GeoZoo_laptop> my wlan card isnt connection to a router
[18:23] <ShootEmUp> swap file can not hibernate
[18:23] <ShootEmUp> but everything else is the same
[18:23] <GeoZoo_laptop> neither wep, wap, or none encryption
[18:23] <ShootEmUp> GeoZoo, what is the make and model of your wifi card?
[18:23] <GeoZoo_laptop> i can scann wlan and find essids, if this is what you mean?
[18:23] <lighta> ShootEmUp, you already gave me this link, is there something I should look for swap ? I took .exe already for windows
[18:24] <GeoZoo_laptop> intel 4965 agn, sorry what is a make?
[18:24] <ShootEmUp> you told me, googleing now...
[18:25] <ShootEmUp> ahh gotta do something, brb
[18:25] <GeoZoo_laptop> doh :)
[18:29] <woodzy> sheep, thanks it worked: gpointing-device-settings
[18:33] <ShootEmUp> GeoZoo, try this link http://www.intellinuxwireless.org/?n=Downloads look for your cards linux drivers
[18:35] <ShootEmUp> lighta, read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[18:36] <GeoZoo_laptop> ShootEmUp, the firmeware version which i get from dmesg is the same than on the webpage you gave me, should i try it anyway? maybe you have also a howto for installing the microcode by hand? thanks
[18:37] <GeoZoo_laptop> no wait, im getting lacy, i will google for a howto :)
[18:42] <ShootEmUp> GeoZoo, apparently your wifi card cannot connect to N networks with ubuntu
[18:43] <ShootEmUp> If your AP is only using N then you will not be able to connect
[18:44] <ShootEmUp> http://www.art.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1491147
[18:44] <ShootEmUp> also you might wanna try this
[18:47] <GeoZoo_laptop> hmm, strange, xChat always runs in a ping timeout...
[18:49] <ShootEmUp> never had a problem here, seems to be a internet erorr not Xchats
[18:51] <GeoZoo_laptop> mirc on my win xp machine (thats the reason for GeoZoo ;-)) never disconected, but i guess it is a bad configuration of anything
[18:52] <ShootEmUp> guess so, anyway you try anything on your wifi card?
[18:53] <GeoZoo_laptop> yes, sure, just looked up what to do with the ucode :)
[19:01] <ShootEmUp> sorry I can't stick around, but I have to go
[19:01] <ShootEmUp> ttyl, everyone!
[20:05] <woodzy> sheep, you around?
[21:51] <chkdsk> How would I go about replacing Thunar with Nautilus as default file manager?