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| CIA-39 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1209734 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/ (backend.cpp config.cpp history.cpp package.cpp) LibQApt should use Q_FOREACH explicitly to avoid potential issues with other libraries using the foreach keyword as a macro | 05:05 |
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| cpatrick2008 | i was wondering when the kpackagekit bug is going to be fixed i saw that kde fixed the problem in version 0.6.3,2 | 07:16 |
| valorie | systemsettings is still crashing if I test xine or vlc phonon backend | 07:23 |
| valorie | it wasn't my haunted computer | 07:24 |
| valorie | doesn't crash with gst | 07:24 |
| valorie | but since i get no error messages, I don't know where I should report this | 07:24 |
| valorie | kde bug, or kub. bug? | 07:25 |
| valorie | systemsettings, or phonon? | 07:25 |
| yofel | cpatrick2008: not sure when it will be fixed, as we need the new kpk version for that | 07:52 |
| yofel | and dantti seems to be far away.. | 07:53 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: http://sebner.soup.io/post/96014590/Timelords | 09:27 |
| valorie | Quintasan: do you build phonon from git? | 09:28 |
| Quintasan | valorie: in project-neon we do | 09:28 |
| valorie | so that's what you have for your amarok? | 09:29 |
| Quintasan | dunno | 09:29 |
| Quintasan | I don't have it installed yet | 09:29 |
| valorie | ever since I built phonon from git, I can't play ANYTHING | 09:29 |
| valorie | from ANYWHERE | 09:29 |
| valorie | I've been testing -- backends all crash | 09:30 |
| valorie | as soon as anything hits the playlist, crash | 09:30 |
| Quintasan | and project-neon-amarok is not ready yet beacuse it waits for project-neon-kdemutlimedia which is waiting for oom bug | 09:30 |
| valorie | your amarok was still crashing though, correct? | 09:31 |
| valorie | on startup | 09:32 |
| valorie | sec | 09:32 |
| valorie | sorry, when the old dog needs out, gotta take him out or clean up the carpet! | 09:38 |
| valorie | lol | 09:38 |
| valorie | I'm wondering if I just apt-get purge phonon and then reinstall from packages | 09:39 |
| valorie | if I'll have a working amarok again | 09:39 |
| valorie | on startup is probably a different problem, *unless* you have a playlist in place, and have chosen to have it start playing at startup | 09:40 |
| valorie | which would trigger the same crash | 09:40 |
| valorie | do you get a bt? | 09:40 |
| valorie | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=261356 | 09:43 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 261356 in general "Try to play a downloaded podcast while using Gstreamer" [Crash,Unconfirmed] | 09:43 |
| valorie | for mine | 09:43 |
| valorie | quintasan, is your backtrace anything like this one? KDE bug 259801? | 09:58 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 259801 in GStreamer backend "Amarok crashed on startup [ Phonon::Gstreamer::Backend::logMessage]" [Crash,Reopened] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=259801 | 09:59 |
| valorie | if so, we do have something related I think | 09:59 |
| valorie | anyway, going to bed | 09:59 |
| valorie | niters all | 09:59 |
| yofel | Quintasan: multimedia is OOM too? | 10:16 |
| yofel | Quintasan: wait, you didn't even try multimedia yet | 10:17 |
| Quintasan | nope | 10:41 |
| Quintasan | because we cant? :D | 10:41 |
| Quintasan | we need kdelibs to be built with docbook-xml/xls as runtime dependency | 10:41 |
| yofel | I uploaded that yesterday | 10:42 |
| yofel | (pretty late though) | 10:42 |
| droidslayer | apachelogger: http://kde.in/conf/ | 11:25 |
| apachelogger | droidslayer: cool | 11:50 |
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| afiestas__ | Hey, you should backport the patches that can be found between 1.0 and 1.0.1 | 14:27 |
| afiestas__ | they add stability into kio_obexftp by fixing a lot of "dead lock" situations and fix the "Empty device name" bug | 14:28 |
| CIA-39 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1209920 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/ (backend.cpp worker/worker.cpp) Report whether or not an InitError comes from the worker. This way applications can know if they should quit or not. | 15:04 |
| CIA-39 | [muon] jmthomas * 1209922 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (libmuon/MuonMainWindow.cpp muon/MainWindow.cpp) Don't quit if an InitError comes from the worker. If the timing is right a LockError can be reported as an InitError in the worker, and we don't have to quit all of Muon over that | 15:05 |
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| nigelb | yofel: poke | 15:08 |
| nigelb | yofel: interested in doing a class at user days? | 15:08 |
| CIA-39 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1209924 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/globals.h Document the new InitError detail | 15:09 |
| * Riddell uploads koffice to natty and ppa/backports | 15:23 | |
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| alleehol | kmail2 beta3 unusable beause it needs akonadi-server 1.4.90 released a week ago. Can't this be added to the experimental ppa? | 15:45 |
| === apachelogger changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Even more friendly next year | Lots to do https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Please test KDE in lucid-proposed LP: #691068 | Ninjas packaging RC 1 https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging | ||
| yofel | nigelb: what topic? and when exactly is the next one going to be? | 15:59 |
| nigelb | yofel: pick something you think is beginner-user-friendly | 16:00 |
| nigelb | date --> Saturday January 29th and | 16:00 |
| nigelb | Sunday January 30th | 16:00 |
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| afiestas__ | Riddell: what is the process to backport a couple of patches form upstream? | 16:34 |
| afiestas__ | or even better update to 1.0.1 if possible | 16:34 |
| maco | afiestas__: into a stable kubuntu release? | 16:58 |
| maco | !sru | 16:58 |
| ubottu | Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates | 16:58 |
| afiestas__ | maco: yes | 16:59 |
| maco | read the link then | 17:01 |
| afiestas__ | well, I'm not going to read all of that... I'm not a packager and I'm not interested in all that informtion | 17:01 |
| afiestas__ | I'm onlly interested in get bluedevil updated someway since we've improved the stability a lot in some parts of the software | 17:01 |
| afiestas__ | and kubuntu is lacking those patches | 17:01 |
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| _Groo_ | hi/2 all | 17:09 |
| _Groo_ | anyone with natty could confirm if k3b is broken with kde 4.6? | 17:10 |
| _Groo_ | k3b needs hal to find the devices | 17:10 |
| _Groo_ | since hal was removed from natty, does k3b work? | 17:10 |
| _Groo_ | im compiling latest k3b git to see if they implemented udisks yet | 17:10 |
| _Groo_ | anyone alive? :D | 17:11 |
| apachelogger | wah? | 17:12 |
| afiestas | in theory they could use Solid to do not have these problems :/ | 17:12 |
| apachelogger | _Groo_: you could help afiestas get bluetooth improvements into 10.10 | 17:12 |
| afiestas | that would be nice :p | 17:12 |
| afiestas | btw, I'm trying to upgrade to kde 4.5.4 (which fixes some Composite stuff) but I can't find it in backports | 17:13 |
| afiestas | do I have to use another repo for that? | 17:13 |
| apachelogger | me@avatar:~/tmp/k3b-2.0.1$ grep -ri hal . |grep include | 17:13 |
| apachelogger | ./libk3bdevice/k3bhalconnection.cpp:#include "k3bhalconnection.h" | 17:13 |
| apachelogger | ./libk3bdevice/k3bhalconnection.cpp:#include "k3bhalconnection.moc" | 17:13 |
| apachelogger | ./src/k3bapplication.cpp:#include "k3bhalconnection.h" | 17:13 |
| apachelogger | the do not use hal | 17:13 |
| apachelogger | they just have a class named hal | 17:13 |
| apachelogger | for whatever reason | 17:13 |
| apachelogger | it uses solid/device though | 17:14 |
| apachelogger | no hal there | 17:14 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: by bluetooth you mean bluedevil? im already using latest git in my machine | 17:14 |
| apachelogger | well | 17:14 |
| afiestas | _Groo_: I'd like to add some patches (at least) into the current Kubuntu packages | 17:14 |
| apachelogger | unless you cloned yourself and are now making up 99% of the worlds populatin that is not going to help anyone but you :P | 17:14 |
| afiestas | basically the diff between 1.0 and 1.0.1 (iirc 5 commits) | 17:15 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: well k3b 2.0.1 is complaining it cant find the devices cause i dont have hal running | 17:15 |
| apachelogger | well | 17:15 |
| apachelogger | k3b is utter fun | 17:15 |
| apachelogger | since they have a class that is named after hal | 17:15 |
| apachelogger | I would presume that they also have strings that refer to HAL | 17:15 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: actually i do a lot of packages for my own use, because a) i dont trust me b) ppl dont truste me | 17:15 |
| apachelogger | which is of course BS because they use solid and thus anything could be running under the hood | 17:16 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: im not arguing, im just asking someone with natty to run k3b and see if iut shows the devices :) | 17:16 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: allllllllso new k3b from git asks for qt multimedia.. and i couldnt find any dev packages with it, only mobile ones | 17:16 |
| apachelogger | ah | 17:17 |
| apachelogger | right | 17:17 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: its an optional build option so its fine for now, but it would be better if qt multimedia mess could be sorted out | 17:17 |
| * apachelogger meant to go rant about that | 17:17 | |
| apachelogger | _Groo_: yeah | 17:17 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: yeah i agree, its a mess right now :P | 17:17 |
| apachelogger | write a mail | 17:17 |
| apachelogger | that goes like | 17:17 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: some parts that are in mobile, should have been into desktop, and vice versa | 17:17 |
| apachelogger | "you unicorns, use the stinky phonon not the stinky qtmm" | 17:17 |
| apachelogger | "kthxbai" | 17:17 |
| apachelogger | "p.s. shoot" | 17:17 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: lol, i know how the debate goes | 17:18 |
| apachelogger | no | 17:18 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: why have one multimedia when you can have 100! | 17:18 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: its so much easier for everyone ¬¬ | 17:18 |
| apachelogger | qtmm should not be in Qt | 17:18 |
| apachelogger | it ws there | 17:18 |
| apachelogger | and it got moved | 17:18 |
| apachelogger | because it is utter crap | 17:18 |
| apachelogger | and only filling one use case, which is lowlevel access to playback stuff | 17:18 |
| apachelogger | which all and entirely could have been done in phonon | 17:18 |
| apachelogger | but the qt brisbane dudes being dudes ... | 17:18 |
| apachelogger | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f_p0CgPeyA | 17:19 |
| afiestas | apachelogger: +1 for a k3b qtmm free | 17:19 |
| _Groo_ | afiestas: just build it without qtmm.. its optional, only used to preview some shit... | 17:20 |
| afiestas | _Groo_: that's why we should push Phonon there since it is perfect for the job, isn't it apachelogger ? | 17:20 |
| apachelogger | most definitely | 17:21 |
| _Groo_ | afiestas: by push you mean replace the code with phonon? | 17:21 |
| afiestas | if k3b people agree, yes | 17:21 |
| afiestas | or at least add some ifdef magic | 17:21 |
| _Groo_ | afiestas: trueg is aproachable... the other developer i dont know | 17:21 |
| afiestas | ifdef UNICORNS, then use phonon | 17:22 |
| afiestas | if not, use whatever you please :p | 17:22 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: btw there will be no more monkeys in the neighborhood for a looong time XD | 17:23 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: they all met they maker | 17:23 |
| _Groo_ | their maker | 17:23 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 17:23 |
| apachelogger | my sister too if she does not stop singing | 17:24 |
| * apachelogger starts shouting like a mad man | 17:24 | |
| * _Groo_ knows apachelogger IS a mad man | 17:25 | |
| _Groo_ | anyone with natty, pls run k3b and say if the damn thing can find the devices | 17:27 |
| afiestas | QuickAccess browser should go upstream, i find it extremely useful | 17:27 |
| _Groo_ | afiestas: veromix too! its a ubber sound mixer | 17:28 |
| apachelogger | afiestas: upstream? | 17:28 |
| apachelogger | you find it useful? :O | 17:29 |
| afiestas | upstream ==> somewhere within git.kde.org | 17:29 |
| apachelogger | I do not think JontheEchidna wants to maintain it anymore | 17:29 |
| afiestas | and yes, I'm too lazy to launch dolphin :p | 17:29 |
| apachelogger | or something like that | 17:29 |
| apachelogger | he is too busy with muon anyway ;) | 17:29 |
| * apachelogger actually wants to remove quickaccess in favor of trash | 17:30 | |
| * afiestas likes KPackageKit and PackageKit :p | 17:30 | |
| _Groo_ | No optical drive found. K3b did not find any optical device in your system. Solution: Make sure HAL daemon is running, it is used by K3b for finding devices. | 17:30 |
| apachelogger | users have problems finding the silly trashbin | 17:30 |
| apachelogger | afiestas: that is appit | 17:30 |
| JontheEchidna | The original author never put QuickAccess upstream because aseigo didn't like it, iirc | 17:30 |
| apachelogger | or something like that | 17:30 |
| _Groo_ | arrrrghhhhh | 17:30 |
| apachelogger | got renamed | 17:30 |
| afiestas | appkit? | 17:30 |
| apachelogger | *shrug* | 17:30 |
| JontheEchidna | It got renamed to Apper | 17:30 |
| apachelogger | projects.kde.org will know | 17:30 |
| apachelogger | ah | 17:30 |
| apachelogger | right | 17:30 |
| JontheEchidna | (KPK did) | 17:30 |
| apachelogger | apper | 17:30 |
| afiestas | apachelogger: maybe we have to rename Phonon to "MultimediaKit" :p | 17:30 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: for once I am with aseigo :P | 17:30 |
| afiestas | aah :p | 17:31 |
| apachelogger | afiestas: we do | 17:31 |
| apachelogger | well | 17:31 |
| JontheEchidna | but yeah, I'm not really maintaining QuickAccess anymore | 17:31 |
| apachelogger | maybe not multimediakit | 17:31 |
| _Groo_ | stupid k3b ¬¬ | 17:31 |
| apachelogger | lennart will come eat us | 17:31 |
| apachelogger | only he may do kits or give permission to make kits :P | 17:31 |
| _Groo_ | JontheEchidna: pitty cause i use it alot, and its one of my favorite plasmoids | 17:31 |
| apachelogger | afiestas: there is a branding problem with how phonon is perceived as something not-qt | 17:31 |
| JontheEchidna | well, it still works. and I'll at least try to keep it that way | 17:31 |
| apachelogger | makign people fall in favor with qtmm | 17:32 |
| JontheEchidna | but I'm not going to really be doing any further development with the plasmoid | 17:32 |
| _Groo_ | JontheEchidna: awww :( | 17:32 |
| apachelogger | not to mention that a google search on qt multimedia will not yield much phonon | 17:32 |
| apachelogger | for obvious reasons | 17:32 |
| apachelogger | let us kill the quickaccess!!! | 17:32 |
| apachelogger | oh | 17:32 |
| apachelogger | I need to leave in half an hour for train | 17:32 |
| apachelogger | let us kill the quickaccess later!!!! | 17:32 |
| afiestas | xD | 17:33 |
| * apachelogger throws a flamethrower after phonongst's streamreader | 17:33 | |
| _Groo_ | could | 17:33 |
| _Groo_ | someone | 17:33 |
| _Groo_ | confirm | 17:33 |
| _Groo_ | that | 17:33 |
| _Groo_ | K3B | 17:33 |
| _Groo_ | is | 17:34 |
| _Groo_ | broken | 17:34 |
| _Groo_ | in | 17:34 |
| _Groo_ | natty! | 17:34 |
| _Groo_ | or | 17:34 |
| _Groo_ | maverick! | 17:34 |
| _Groo_ | with | 17:34 |
| _Groo_ | kde | 17:34 |
| _Groo_ | 4 | 17:34 |
| _Groo_ | . | 17:34 |
| _Groo_ | 6? | 17:34 |
| _Groo_ | pls? | 17:34 |
| apachelogger | works here | 17:34 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: hal is running? | 17:34 |
| * apachelogger just burned some pr0n | 17:34 | |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: we should put synaptics in the seed while we are removing quickaccess from it (bug 669558) | 17:34 |
| apachelogger | _Groo_: how would I know | 17:34 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 669558 in kcm-touchpad (Ubuntu Natty) "[MIR] synaptiks" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/669558 | 17:34 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: aye | 17:34 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: yyou still burn pr0n???? oO | 17:34 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: ps xa|grep hal | 17:34 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: now I just need to remember that long enough | 17:34 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: should give you a lot of little hal spawn services | 17:35 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: I can do it after I'm done with this FTBFS fix for darkroom | 17:35 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: if its active | 17:35 |
| apachelogger | seems there is a hal in my pocket | 17:35 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: oh great... ok, now we have a problem :P | 17:35 |
| apachelogger | do we? | 17:35 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: the thing is... hal and ustuff dont go along | 17:35 |
| apachelogger | so? | 17:35 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: check your power manager | 17:35 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: are you seeing one batery or two? | 17:36 |
| apachelogger | one | 17:36 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: oO | 17:36 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: do you have upower installed? | 17:36 |
| apachelogger | how would I know | 17:36 |
| apachelogger | why would I though? | 17:36 |
| apachelogger | installed it is | 17:37 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: kde moved from hal to ustuff.. they are needed for solid now, for power managemnt, the like | 17:37 |
| apachelogger | odd Ifind that though | 17:37 |
| apachelogger | _Groo_: now, I would expect that solid hal still works? | 17:37 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: at leats till beta2, powerdevil used to show 2 bateries instead of one, cause he was reading from both hal and upower | 17:37 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: same strange behaviour for some type of medias | 17:38 |
| apachelogger | well | 17:38 |
| apachelogger | now it does not anymore | 17:38 |
| apachelogger | so probably hald and ushoot are mutually exclusive within solid | 17:39 |
| apachelogger | which supposedly would make sense | 17:39 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: gonna test that now | 17:39 |
| _Groo_ | that would "fix" k3b, im installing hal again | 17:39 |
| _Groo_ | still cant find the stuff, but hal is kinda sutpid, sometimes onlya reboot makes him see the correct devices | 17:40 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: did you update kdenetwork to rc1 yet? | 17:40 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: if not i can upload my packages | 17:40 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: do a solid-hardware list and paste it somehwre | 17:43 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: i wanna see if solid is show both hal and udisk devices | 17:43 |
| _Groo_ | showing* | 17:43 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: hello? | 17:47 |
| _Groo_ | brb | 17:48 |
| Quintasan | Hmmmmmmmmmmm | 21:35 |
| Quintasan | It's quite dead in here. | 21:35 |
| Daskreech | I agree | 21:35 |
| Riddell | hi afiestas, we need the patches and whatever information is available about the problems they fix to do a stable release update | 22:01 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: ajax seems to have died in rekonq using KDE Platform 4.6 :( | 22:12 |
| afiestas | Riddell: oooks, I will send them to kubuntu-devel | 22:28 |
| droidslayer | Any ideas why qt webkit is NOT built with v8 engine support? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/60440899/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-amd64.qtwebkit-source_2.1%7Egit20101116-0ubuntu9_BUILDING.txt.gz | 22:40 |
| droidslayer | There's a option to pass --v8 to the script | 22:40 |
| droidslayer | Riddell: ^^ incase you have a idea... | 22:41 |
| droidslayer | I've Gtg and sleep... its 4am :-P | 22:42 |
| droidslayer | Cya | 22:42 |
| Riddell | droidslayer: no paticular reason | 22:43 |
| Riddell | oh, he left | 22:43 |
| * Riddell uploads new koffice tar and koffice-l10n | 23:22 | |
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