[00:00] <RLa> it seems like certificates support for kde was pretty incomplete up to versions 4.4
[00:11] <buldozer> привет
[00:11] <Snowhog> !ru | buldozer
[00:12] <buldozer> не понял
[00:12] <buldozer> апапапап
[00:22] <woodzy> any idea as to how i can install bochs?
[00:22] <well_laid_lawn> !find bochs
[00:23] <well_laid_lawn> from the repos woodzy
[00:23] <well_laid_lawn> !info bochs
[00:24] <woodzy> can i use apt-get to install it?
[00:24] <well_laid_lawn> sure you can
[00:25] <woodzy> thanks. :) i just didn't see it in the list under settings.
[00:28] <well_laid_lawn> you can always try   apt-cache search bochs   in konsole to check
[02:01] <kaddi> is there a wysiswyg editor for bb-code?
[02:01] <sobczyk> hello, I have problems with Kopete, when I have message indicator I can't maximize Kopete, when I turn off indicator Kate does not show up in the tray is there a way to fix it?
[02:02] <sobczyk> I mean Kopete not kate :)
[02:04] <DaemonFC> sobczyk, yeah, it's complicated
[02:04] <sobczyk> DaemonFC: but fixable?
[02:05] <DaemonFC> I think it goes, close it to tray and restore it with indicator in the tray, then close indicator, quit kopete, open kopete, and close it again, this time it should offer to go to the tray
[02:05] <DaemonFC> I stumbled on that by wrestling it for a while
[02:05] <sobczyk> would be nice to have working message indicator though
[02:06] <DaemonFC> I don't like that thing anywhere, but it least it's possible to get rid of it in Kubuntu without losing half your notifications
[02:06] <DaemonFC> :)
[02:06] <sobczyk> hmm the problem is - Kopete does not restore with message indicator
[02:06] <sobczyk> I click Kopete but nothing happens
[02:07] <DaemonFC> oh, I thought you wanted rid of the indicator
[02:10] <sobczyk> I also have problems connecting to ad-hoc network (creating it), though I'm not sure if it's kubuntu related
[03:14] <Paolo_CT> Hi there, I been using ubuntu for a year, and I just installed kde a couple weeks ago, since then, I been having problems with the audio (input and output), it works for a while, and suddlendly fail...Any healp pls?
[03:19] <blakwolf> I'm having trouble with a new Kubuntu 10.10 Install. It starts up kinda weird and when I get to the login screen and try to login, it goes to the splash screen and does a few of the things, then it goes black and goes right back to the login screen. help?
[03:28] <Paolo_CT> Anyone able to help?
[03:37] <surunveri> hi anyone got an idea what in a system update may've slowed down the system
[03:41] <Thrik> someone posted that question on the kubuntu forum from what i recall.
[06:55] <kyubutsu> i got a triple boot system [kubuntu, ubuntu, windows] in which the kubuntu partition reached its limit. want second opinion about running the livecd to reinstall kubuntu using the space of both ext4 partitions [so only windows and kubuntu are installed] ..  how are the chances of all that going wrong
[06:55] <kyubutsu> :(
[06:57] <valorie> just a thought
[06:57] <valorie> how about blowing away Ubuntu, and moving/backing up your kub. /home on that?
[06:58] <valorie> then you will have more room for kub., AND have your home on it's one partition
[06:58] <valorie> its
[06:58] <valorie> own
[06:58] <valorie> sheesh, typing fail
[06:59] <kyubutsu> right.. i assume your method is about running gparted from livecd?
[06:59] <valorie> I suppose you could do that
[07:00] <valorie> I don't know anything about your partition sizes
[07:00] <valorie> but you could always adjust before copying home over
[07:00] <valorie> it's just a good idea to have /home protected by itself
[07:01] <valorie> sec, have to tend to the dog
[07:05] <valorie> also, most people don't dual boot k/ubuntu
[07:05] <valorie> you can just log into one or the other as you wish
[07:05] <valorie> if you prefer ubuntu for some things
[07:05] <valorie> or just use some ubuntu apps in kubuntu
[07:20] <cpatrick2008> i was wondering when the kpackagekit bug is going to be fixed i saw that kde fixed the problem in version 0.6.3,2
[07:26] <valorie> which kpk bug?
[07:26]  * valorie finally is liking kpk
[07:31] <cpatrick2008> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=261295
[07:31] <cpatrick2008> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/694194
[07:32] <well_laid_lawn> all i can say to that is
[07:32] <well_laid_lawn> !ppa
[07:33] <valorie> well, I'm using 4.5.4
[07:33] <valorie> so a bit behind the cutting edge
[07:35] <kyubutsu> perhaps you could ask #ubuntu-bugs or better yet, whoever handles the kde bugs ..
[07:36] <kyubutsu> am guessing that'd be around kde.org
[07:37] <well_laid_lawn> there's a kde channel iirc
[07:38] <valorie> many of them, in fact
[07:39] <well_laid_lawn> the amount of ppl with kde issues in the Archlinux forums ...
[07:43] <valorie> it's sometimes difficult to work out where the bugs come from -- programming, or packaging?
[07:43] <well_laid_lawn> it seems the policy is to build something new rather then fix what is now I guess
[07:44] <valorie> sometimes that's best
[07:44] <well_laid_lawn> "sometimes"
[07:44] <valorie> if the old is really outdated, or a mess of code
[07:44] <kyubutsu> i dont think thats how it works
[07:44] <valorie> it worked that way with Amarok
[07:44] <well_laid_lawn> valorie: how many network manager issues have you seen?
[07:45] <valorie> some
[07:45] <kyubutsu> anyhow.. thats where a well done bug report comes into play
[07:45] <valorie> I didn't use to hang out here, so I don't know if it's getting better, or staying the same
[07:45] <well_laid_lawn> I just think they should hold up on new releases for a bit 'till the base is right
[07:45] <valorie> 10.10 was a big improvement for me
[07:46] <valorie> well_laid_lawn: what are your issues?
[07:46] <kyubutsu> am using 10.10 and i like my widgets too
[07:46] <kyubutsu> :(
[07:47] <well_laid_lawn> valorie: I have none except trying to sort out others issues - my install is very basic
[07:47] <kyubutsu> but noveau isnt quite there as far as 3d acceleration .. sigh
[07:48] <well_laid_lawn> give it a bit of time to mature it is still young
[07:48] <kyubutsu> have to.. only got integrated graphics
[07:48] <kyubutsu> :(
[09:06] <speedvin> Hello
[09:24] <SynTet-a-Tet> всем привет!
[09:26] <SynTet-a-Tet> Кто знает, почему Мозила тормозит, при обращении к сайту (скорость нормальная)
[09:26] <well_laid_lawn> !ru | SynTet-a-Tet
[09:43] <spirov92> hi, I'm trying to upload data to a garmin gps. According to http://www.marengo-ltd.com/gps/ garmin support is built in, but it seems to rely on older kernels
[09:44] <spirov92> http://sourceforge.net/projects/garmin-gps/ it says here linux 2.6-. So is there a replacement for this?
[09:46] <spirov92> btw the GPS cable is a serial, so I'm using a serial to USB converter, which seems to work out of the box.
[09:49] <well_laid_lawn> linux 2.6-. generally means any of the 2.6 kernels so the one you have should be fine
[09:49] <well_laid_lawn> !find linux
[09:50] <well_laid_lawn> we're up to 2.6.35 now
[09:58] <spirov92> It seems there's no package for garmin-gps
[10:06] <well_laid_lawn> !find garmin
[10:07] <spirov92> I'm trying qlandkartegt-garmin right now
[10:07] <well_laid_lawn> apt-cache search   is a good thing to try in terminal for applications too
[10:07] <well_laid_lawn> k
[10:20] <skamster_> hello all.. i like to use the uno-plugin for eclipse.. now i have to tell the plugin the path to openoffice sdk (or dev in *buntu) and to the openoffice-installation..
[10:20] <skamster_> which paths are these? i just found some directorys, but there isn't a valid/one who looks complett..
[10:21] <well_laid_lawn> I would think /usr/bin or /opt
[10:27] <hartmut> Gutn Morgen
[10:29] <well_laid_lawn> hartmut: woud you like a german channel?
[10:29] <well_laid_lawn> !de
[10:30] <skamster_> well_laid: yes, if i install the deb's from openoffice.org, then it's should be in opt.. in /usr/bin are just the binarys to start..
[10:34] <well_laid_lawn> !tab
[10:36] <well_laid_lawn> skamster_: I don't really know what you are after - openoffice doesn't have a sdk afaik - in /usr/bin the executables normally start with three o's
[10:36] <well_laid_lawn> like ooo-base etc
[10:44] <skamster_> oh, thanks for that trick.. i just now the same for console :)
[10:44] <well_laid_lawn> it's a handy trick :-)
[10:45] <well_laid_lawn> I type ska and hit the tab key and I get skamster_
[10:46] <skamster_> well_laid_lawn: yes, i know. but there's a package in the repos called openoffice.org-dev.. that's the sdk, as i know (written in description). i've got also a plugin for the uno-library, but this plugin needs the install-paths for ooffice and ooffice-sdk (or dev)..
[10:47] <skamster_> i found a folder under /usr/share/openoffice/ but it doesn't seem to be the right one
[10:47] <skamster_> :s
[10:48] <skamster_> well_laid_lawn: yeah, like in terminal for commands, folders and so on ;) very nice, didn't know that it's also avaible for irc :D
[10:48] <well_laid_lawn> !find openoffice.org
[10:48] <well_laid_lawn> there's lots
[10:48] <well_laid_lawn> !find openoffice.org-dev
[10:49] <well_laid_lawn> !info openoffice.org-dev
[10:49] <skamster_> !find openoffice.org-dev
[10:49] <well_laid_lawn> it's in the repos
[10:49] <skamster_> ah, damn, i didn't saw your command
[10:49] <well_laid_lawn> sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-dev   then
[10:50] <well_laid_lawn> it's ok :)
[10:50] <skamster_> i already did that
[10:50] <well_laid_lawn> woot!
[10:50] <skamster_> my problem is just the path
[10:50] <skamster_> where is it? :(
[10:50] <skamster_> or: which one is valid?
[10:52] <skafti> hi
[10:52] <skafti> how do i setup zero ballistics ?
[10:52] <skamster_> well_laid_lawn: maybe it's also just the plugin who don't like me.. :p
[10:53] <skamster_> (it said just everytime: path is no valid oo-path)
[10:54] <well_laid_lawn> skamster_: I thought it needed three o's
[10:55] <well_laid_lawn> ooo-path
[10:55] <skamster_> ok, yes, the message is with 3 o's.. but the path was copy-paste, so i don't think it was wrong..
[10:55] <skamster_> strange uno-world.. :s
[10:56] <well_laid_lawn> heh
[10:58] <skamster_> they may better would make a .jar-file and everything's fine.. without the plugin, i'm not able to programm something with uno or at least i don't know how..
[10:59] <well_laid_lawn> I don't know how to either
[11:02] <skamster_> well_laid_lawn: yes, it's the wrong channel for that, but they're all sleeping and i just relax because i couldn't work
[11:02] <skamster_> ;)
[11:13] <well_laid_lawn> the sdk isn't enough skamster_ ?
[11:13] <well_laid_lawn> it should have help/man pages I would think
[11:14] <skamster_> no, i've got no access to the librarys who i like to import..
[11:15] <skamster_> i looked in tutorials.. but found just the way with the plugin
[11:15] <well_laid_lawn> !find openoffice.org-dev
[11:16] <well_laid_lawn> there's the doc files to download too skamster_
[11:22] <skamster_> mh, the doc's are fine, there's a fully api-documentation.. but without working imports, i couldn't use it.. may i find somewhere in the sdk-folders a jar or so..
[11:36] <well_laid_lawn> I wouldn't know about that sorry
[11:45] <jister> hey
[11:50] <phani> i am a c developer and i can`t get a c program to work in maverick. i am doing it in codeblocks and it is giving a fatal error conio.h no such file or directory
[11:51] <phani> can anybody help me??
[11:51] <Peace-> no such file and directory....
[11:52] <Peace-> phani: this is a kubuntu help channel
[11:52] <Peace-> and not a #c channel
[11:52] <phani> hey i am getting the problem in ubuntu .. i mentioned it
[11:54] <skamster_> well_laid_lawn: no problem, thanks for the help anyway :)
[11:56] <phani> conio.h
[13:21] <lieuwe> what's the name of the sun java package?
[13:22] <yofel> sun-java6-jre for the JRE
[13:23] <yofel> you need to have the Partner repository enabled in since lucid if you want to install it
[13:23] <yofel> -in
[13:27] <amichair> !java | lieuwe
[13:28] <amichair> hmm... the text should be changed to 'Lucid and later' or '10.04 and later'
[13:29] <amichair> lieuwe: and after you install it, you'll probably want to run 'update-alternatives --config java' to make it default
[13:40] <EvilRoey> oh hai.
[13:47] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:51] <skafti> hi
[13:53] <skafti> i need to setup a game tremulous can someone help me
[14:04] <BluesKaj> skafti, I'm not a gamer but is it available for linux?
[14:06] <skafti> http://linuxgames07.blogspot.com/2007/11/top-ubuntu-linux-games.html
[14:06] <skafti> im not a gamer either but i got 2 boys who like to play
[14:08] <BluesKaj> skafti, http://linux.about.com/od/dist_ubuntu/a/ubgtremulous.htm
[14:13] <skafti> thanks man i did not see it there before :)
[14:15] <BluesKaj> skafti, you're welcome :)
[14:31] <emanuele>  \list
[14:32] <emanuele> ciao
[14:32] <emanuele> !list
[14:51] <funcrush> I just upgrade kde4.6 rc1 and changed keybord input method.. I can't find setting menu in systemsettings..
[14:51] <funcrush> how can I changed keybord input method
[14:53] <BluesKaj> funcrush, system sttings/input devices
[14:54] <funcrush> BluesKaj: I can't find it in there..
[14:54] <BluesKaj> in the kmenu?
[14:55] <funcrush> yup
[14:56] <funcrush> becuz of my language.. I should use nabi, not scim
[14:57] <BluesKaj> funcrush, kmenu/applications /settings/ input switcher?
[14:58] <BluesKaj> err input method switcher
[14:59] <funcrush> hm... it is in there... i'll try
[14:59] <funcrush> thank you :)
[14:59] <BluesKaj> funcrush, and it coud be a bug , afterall you are running kde beta
[14:59] <funcrush> yup.. but input method is essential
[15:05] <drkfce> Hi all.  I think I may have shot myself in the foot.  Wanting to reinstall ubuntu server on a machine that had a broken hard drive, and refused to  boot from USB, I decided to do the OS installation by moving the HD from one machine to another.  Of course, in the process of that installation, I believe I fubar'd grub.
[15:05] <drkfce> The "other" machine has a Raid 0 set up, which makes things REALLY complicated.  I'm trying to mount the RAID volume, but it says that it is already mounted.  I look at the output of "mount", but it is not showin up.  Does that mean I am SOL?
[15:06] <drkfce> Oddly enough, I am able to mount the partitions WITHIN the raid, just fine.
[15:09] <BluesKaj> drkfce, what does df -h tell you ..does it show the linux partition?
[15:11] <drkfce> BluesKaj:  It shows the partition that I mounted that is within the raid, but it doesn't show the whole "drive"
[15:11] <James147> drkfce: why dose it matter what the "other" mechiene has? just disable the other drives for the instolation and they should cause you a problem... (assuming your just going to install the system then move the hd back to the server and that the server dosent ahve raid)
[15:12] <drkfce> James147: The problem is, is that I already "installed" the server os, and when I try to boot into my other partitions, it says "module not found"
[15:12] <James147> drkfce: reinstall grub
[15:12] <James147> !grub2
[15:12] <drkfce> I'm trying to
[15:12] <drkfce> That is the guide I'm trying to follow
[15:13] <drkfce> I'll paste that boot info script output to a paste site, to see if that has any info
[15:17] <drkfce> here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/548265
[15:19] <drkfce> when I type "sudo mount /dev/mapper/isw_dcghabhdc_Volume0 /mnt/mountpoint"  it  says "mount: /dev/mapper/isw_dcghabhdc_Volume0 already mounted or /mnt/mountpoint/ busy"
[15:19] <drkfce> and I have to mount that in order to reinstall grub, correct?
[15:20] <James147> drkfce: as far as I know yes... assuming its the root drive
[15:21] <drkfce> so, am I SOL?
[15:21] <James147> SOL?
[15:21] <drkfce> out of luck
[15:23] <James147> drkfce: not sure, dont know much about how raid works in linux :(
[15:24] <drkfce> Thankfully I was able to mount the partitions and get the data off o fit
[15:24] <James147> drkfce: what type of raid are you using?
[15:24] <drkfce> 0 :(
[15:24] <James147> (software/hardware/fakeraid?)
[15:25] <drkfce> whatever is supplied by the motherboard, so I am assuming hardware
[15:25] <James147> drkfce: then probally fakeraid... you might want to note that linux dosent play very well with fakeraid...
[15:26] <drkfce> of course, heh
[15:30] <ggeorgy> hi
[15:31] <ggeorgy> is possible to acces internet on my phone via usb? :(  :)  :|  ;)
[15:32] <ggeorgy> do you have any ideas ??
[15:32] <ggeorgy> ????????
[15:33] <James147> ggeorgy: that would highly depends on the phone
[15:33] <ggeorgy> ooo
[15:34] <ggeorgy> i have samsung star-s5230
[15:35] <ggeorgy> so
[15:37] <ggeorgy> dont work?
[15:38] <James147> sorry dont know that phone
[15:40] <ggeorgy> http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Samsung-Star-S5230-Review_id2179
[15:41] <ggeorgy> is a simple java  phone
[15:46] <ggeorgy> so .is not possible ?
[15:46] <templar_> Hello, I have a problem, please help me. The problem is the password which I enter during installing packages (kpackageedit) or during "kdesudo appname" command, says its invalid password. BUT the same password when entered through apt-get install or sudo in commandline works!. Please help me.
[15:46] <James147> templar_: any funky characters in the password?
[15:47] <ggeorgy> no
[15:47] <alleehol> kmail
[15:48] <ggeorgy> do you changed your passwd?
[15:48] <templar_> James147: No I have only alpahabets and nmumbers in my password
[15:48] <ggeorgy> i want say: do you modifyed your pass?
[15:49] <templar_> ggeorgy: No I have not modified my password
[15:50] <templar_> It unexcpectedly started invalidating my password, whenver I use gui apps which require sudo password. BUT the same sudo password in terminal works
[15:54] <ggeorgy> try this command: sudo passwd your_user_name
[15:55] <ggeorgy> and insert your old pass
[15:56] <templar_> ggeorgy: It says "USER is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported."
[15:56] <James147> templar_: hmm... so sudo commands dont work?
[15:57] <templar_> Yes I had sudo working an hour or so ago when I installed htop. Now even sudo in terminal doesnt work
[15:57] <James147> templar_: are you part of teh adm and admin group?
[15:58] <templar_> jumpin_in_havana: Yes, this is my own PC, I just instaslled it a few days ago. How can I check that?
[15:58] <amichair> templar_: any chance you switched users (using su or such)? you prompt confirms you're using the user you expect?
[15:58] <templar_> sorry
[15:59] <templar_> James147: ^^
[15:59] <templar_> I mean check if I am in admin group?
[15:59] <James147> templar_: run "groups"  in a terminal and it should tell you your groups
[15:59] <amichair> templar_: and/or, any chance you have a multiple-language layout, and you used the other language when the password worked?
[16:00] <jumpin_in_havana> oh lol a irc notification :/
[16:02] <templar_> James147: amichair Oh I just remembered something which I did two days ago. I addded my username to www-data group to make it easier to edit files of my http
[16:03] <James147> templar_: that shoudn't have affected sudo (assuming you dident remove adm or admin)
[16:03] <amichair> James147: must a user be in admin group in order for sudoers to apply?
[16:04] <templar_> James147: running groups tells there are only two groups, one my own created group and other one www-data
[16:04] <amichair> templar_: if you use "sudo -u www-data", does the password work?
[16:04] <James147> templar_: add yourself to teh admin group
[16:05] <James147> ... if you need root to do that then reboot to the revocery mode
[16:05] <amichair> James147: he'd need admin priviledges for that, no? :-P
[16:05] <James147> amichair:  :)
[16:05] <templar_> amichair: I didnt change lan"sudo -u www-data" doesnt ask for password
[16:06] <templar_> s/lan/language .
[16:07] <amichair> templar_: I meant "sudo -u www-data ls" (or some other command for sudo to run)
[16:08] <templar_> amichair: Now the same issue, it says I am not in sudoers file
[16:09] <amichair> templar_: ok. Is this the user you created during installation of kubuntu, or added later?
[16:09] <James147> templar_: reboot to recovery mode and add your self to the admin group
[16:09] <templar_> Its is the only username created during installation of kubuntu. No i did not create any other user
[16:10] <amichair> James147: would not being in admin group remove one from sudoers file? (or give the same error message?)
[16:10] <templar_> James147: Sure, I would try that, but please help me with the commands since I have to logoff this PC to do that
[16:11] <James147> amichair: the admin group is in the sudoers file... so anyone in the group can use sudo... hes not in the group but he needs to be
[16:12] <amichair> James147: oh yes, of course
[16:15] <woodzy> nubie qwestion: how do i change the default 'konsole' shell to csh or how do i create a launcher on the desktop to open up a terminal using csh?
[16:15] <James147> templar_: one way is to edit the /etc/group file and add your name to the admin group (type your name after the last : .. or if a name is already there add it to the end seperated by a comma like: "admin:x:115:james"  or "admin:x:115:otheruser,james"
[16:15] <James147> woodzy: create a profile for konsole
[16:16] <woodzy> where, james?
[16:16] <templar_> James147: I need sudo to edit anything from  /etc/group
[16:17] <James147> templar_: yes... thats why you need to reboot to recvery mode... doing that you should be ablt to get a root prompt without entering a password :p assuming you dident set a password in grub for revocery menus
[16:18] <amichair> templar_: you can also use the adduser command, might be safer
[16:18] <templar_> James147: No I did not set any password for grub recovery menus. Ok I am restarting I trying that, I wil be cut off from IRC, but I have logged in from my mobile to watch helpfule comments.
[16:18] <templar_> amichair: thanks I will try that
[16:19] <James147> amichair: probally, :) but I dont know the syntax for doing it that way :D
[16:19] <amichair> James147: me neither, but "adduser --help" shows the way :-)
[16:19] <amichair> apparently it's "adduser <user> <group>"
[16:20] <woodzy> aimchair: isn't that the better way to add user to the admin group than editing /etc/group file?
[16:20] <James147> amichair: ahh, yeah... over looked that bit :d
[16:20] <woodzy> :)
[16:21] <dadag> I AM TEMPLAR
[16:21] <amichair> woodzy: yeah, using simple commands is usually safer than manually editing critical files :-)
[16:23] <amichair> dadag: after you've done it, use "groups <username>" to make sure it worked
[16:24] <woodzy> my problem: i need to either change the default shell for konsole or create a launcher on my desktop to launch csh ?
[16:24] <James147> woodzy: create a profile for konsole (look at the menus)
[16:25] <amichair> woodzy: and obviously make sure you have csh installed
[16:25] <James147> woodzy: (settings > edit profiles)
[16:27] <templar_> Thank you very much James147 amichair . Did "adduser MYUSERNAME MYGROUP". It works now! Thanks
[16:27] <amichair> templar_: cool
[16:27] <templar_> But any idea the reason I  got myself removed from root group?
[16:28] <James147> templar_: no clue how you got removed :S maby when adding yourself to the www-data group?
[16:28] <woodzy> james: csh is installed but i do not see edit profile, do you mean account details or user management?
[16:28] <amichair> templar_: btw, in case you removed yourself from other groups as well, you should check what a default user gets (e.g. I have also cdrom, plugdev, adm, lpadmin... not sure what they all are though or if they are default)
[16:28] <James147> woodzy: in konsole...
[16:29] <woodzy> doh! thanks. :)
[16:30] <amichair> woodzy: in konsole, Settings -> Configure Profiles, create a new profile and look at the existing one if necessary (using 'Edit') to see how it should be set up - you'll just need to change the command, basically
[16:31] <templar_> amichair: Well even though I am not in those groups, I am only in 3 groups now, my own created group, www-data and root
[16:31] <templar_> amichair: Even though I am not in cdrom group, I can access files from CD
[16:31] <amichair> woodzy: (you should keep the current profile available since bash is used by nearly everyone - though you can change which one is default if your really need it
[16:37] <woodzy> i have my profile setup but how do i change it to the default? (don't worry i'm not getting rid of the bash profile)
[16:38] <amichair> woodzy: in the profile manager, 'Set as Default' button
[16:38] <amichair> woodzy: in a shortcut, you can run 'konsole --profile <profile>' (without changing default)
[16:39] <woodzy> aimchair, is it possible to create a launcher on my desktop that uses "konsole --profile <profile>" ? that'd be easier.
[16:39] <amichair> templar_: http://efreedom.com/Question/2-11488/Default-Groups-Assigned-First-User-Ubuntu-Server
[16:40] <woodzy> btw, thanks james.
[16:40] <amichair> templar_: that's both how you probably got into this trouble, and the answer to my question :-)
[16:41] <amichair> woodzy: yes, when you create the shortcut use this parameter in the command you specify
[16:43] <woodzy> but how do i create a launcher? right clicking on the desktop provides no obvious menu selection.
[16:44] <amichair> woodzy: right-click -> Create New... -> Link to Application
[16:45] <templar_> amichair: Thanks thatcleared my issue
[16:45] <woodzy> on the desktop? all i see are: run command; add widgets; add panel; activities; lock widgets; lock screen; leave; desktop settings
[16:45] <amichair> templar_: great :-)
[16:46] <amichair> templar_: sounds like an easy mistake to make... silly interface to allow that
[16:46] <templar_> yes
[16:46] <amichair> woodzy: oh, I was looking at the Desktop Folder View
[16:47] <woodzy> :)
[16:47] <amichair> maybe u can create it in any folder, and then just drag it to the desktop?
[16:48] <James147> woodzy: you can create menu entries via "kmenuedit" or rightclicking kmenu > edit menu
[16:49] <amichair> the "desktop" can be confusing to anyone coming from... any other OS. the whole activities and containments and folder views thing is not intuitive coming from there.
[16:49] <woodzy> thanks james.
[16:49] <woodzy> thanks aimchair
[16:49] <amichair> (and frankly, doesn't add any convenience that I can think of)
[16:49] <amichair> woodzy: cheers :-)
[16:50] <woodzy> i agree, aimchair, except for that minor difference, kde still is a better desktop. still, something new to get used to (like a new car). :)
[16:53] <BluesKaj> heh, some gnome users won't use  a Qt/kde app ,I recommended audex without realizing some ppl think kde pollutes their gnome experience :)
[16:54] <woodzy> gnome is OK but i prefer xfce over gnome (sssshhhh....don't tell the gnomeheads) :)
[16:54] <BluesKaj> apparently soundjuicer is the gnome equivalent ...it doesn't bother me to mix and match apps as long as they work
[16:55] <amichair> speaking of kmenuedit... is there a default icon yet for 'Development' category?
[16:55] <BluesKaj> amichair, yup, I have one in the kmenu
[16:56] <amichair> BluesKaj: which is it?
[16:56] <BluesKaj> it's ahammer
[16:57] <amichair> I don't see one in the system icons
[16:57] <BluesKaj> applications
[16:57] <woodzy> are there any other mp3 directory players other than amarok?
[16:58] <amichair> BluesKaj: not there
[16:58] <BluesKaj> woodzy, I use vlc
[16:58] <amichair> (looking at the select icon dialog from kmenuedit, searching for 'applications' doesn't show a hammer
[16:59] <BluesKaj> amarok isn't my cuppa tea anymore ...it's just too clunky and unstable
[17:00] <BluesKaj> no amichair , I'm talking about kmenu / applications/development.not the menu editor
[17:01] <amichair> BluesKaj: yes, that's what I'm talking about too - I'm trying to change the default ugly folder icon using the menu editor
[17:01] <BluesKaj> perhaps you don't have any dev apps installed
[17:01] <amichair> strangely, even for categories with a nice icon, clicking the icon button in the editor doesn't point to where the icon is, nor show it as one of the existing icons!
[17:01] <woodzy> i've used vlc on windows maybe i'll give it a shot on this machine now. thanks.
[17:01] <amichair> where are these icons coming from?
[17:02] <amichair> BluesKaj: I have dev apps, just not the nice icon (I probably have it from before they set a nice icon for it, and it never changed)
[17:04] <BluesKaj> amichair, click on the development in the menu editor then click on the icon that comes beside name , then choose categories in Icon sourcew
[17:05]  * amichair blushes
[17:05] <amichair> missed that dropdown...
[17:05] <amichair> :-)
[17:06] <amichair> ah, that's better.
[17:06] <BluesKaj> :)
[17:07] <woodzy> is it safe to un-install amarok if i'm using vlc as my main media player?
[17:07] <amichair> woodzy: yes, they are unrelated as far as I know
[17:08] <woodzy> i just wanted to make sure i wasn't breaking my system: i.e. removing any codecs or anything when i do. :)
[17:09] <amichair> woodzy: worst case, you reinstall vlc and it brings back everything it needs :-) (but it shouldn't happen)
[17:09] <tammi> hi Kubuntu fans and experts! I have a small prob. may I ask?
[17:09] <amichair> tammi: go ahead (no need to ask if you can ask :-) )
[17:09] <BluesKaj> woodzy, not sure but doesn't amarok try to remove most of kde
[17:09] <BluesKaj> it used to
[17:11] <tammi> upgraded to 10.10 and my computer wont boot anymore. It stops at grub saying: the symbol grub_xputs not found. I have raid installed.
[17:11] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: no, it would only remove metapackages if any, that's mostly harmless
[17:12] <Tm_T> tammi: hi, you might also like to try to #ubuntu-fi for finnish support
[17:13] <tammi> thanks, I speak not much finnish :-( just live here
[17:13] <Tm_T> ah, roger (:
[17:15] <BluesKaj> Tm_T, nice , amarok is gone , without any side effects , I hope :)
[17:15] <amichair> tammi: google comes up with a few solutions... have you tried anything yet?
[17:16] <tammi> yes i already googled all day
[17:17] <tammi> if I boot from live CD it does not see my md0 raid
[17:17] <woodzy> thanks guys.
[17:17] <tammi> in most cases reinstall is recommended
[17:18] <tammi> i just can not reinstall grub if my md0 is not seen
[17:18] <James147> tammi: just so you know, linux has had a bad history with fake raid... you might want to consider not using that if you go for a reinstall
[17:18] <amichair> tammi: maybe someone at #grub will be able to help (or #ubuntu too)... or someone will come along here who knows it well. Sorry I don't :-)
[17:19] <tammi> ok i try #grub . Thanks anyway
[17:29] <woodzy> is there a way to add a sub-menu to the favorites folder on the 'start' menu?
[17:42] <woodzy> blues, is there a way to remove vlc from the task bar and have it reside only in the system tray?
[17:49] <James147> woodzy: you can tell kwin to make it skip the taskbar...
[17:53] <woodzy> this is the error i get james - http://www.brokenthorn.com/Resources/OSDevIndex.html
[17:53] <woodzy> oops - here is the error i get: kwin: unable to claim manager selection, another wm running? (try using --replace)
[17:55] <dfaure> os-prober doesn't detect Windows 7, is there a fix for that?   (/usr/lib/os-probes/mounted/20microsoft doesn't know windows 7)  -- on lucid
[17:56] <dfaure> hmm actually it does know it, the comment is confusing.
[18:01] <dfaure> and it has to start on sda2 (loader) in order to start the windows on sda4. Confusing, but works fine. Good.
[18:01] <James147> woodzy: kwin will already be running :) or at least it should.. you can right click the title bar of a window > configure window behavour > Window ruls ... then create a new rule and enable the one to skip the taskbar
[18:03] <woodzy> i base this on the title of the window, correct?
[18:09] <James147> wahooooo: yes (or press alt+f3 when focused on a window)
[18:10] <James147> woodzy: ^^ sorry
[18:17] <bigbrovar_> .
[18:18] <woodzy> thanks, james. :)
[18:19] <woodzy> last question for today :) - any reason why radiotray won't work under kubuntu?
[18:19] <bittin> bittin@jabber.se i need more geeks to chat with :)
[18:19] <woodzy> radiotray works fine under ubuntu and xubuntu.
[18:53] <BakiBB> hello
[18:54] <BakiBB> I am a total noob to Linux in general
[18:54] <James147> Hi BakiBB
[18:54] <James147> thats alright :) we will help you in anyway we can :)
[18:54] <amichair> BakiBB: we all were once :-)
[18:54] <BakiBB> Is there a efficient way to learn basic stuff
[18:54] <BakiBB> like a recommended manual
[18:55] <James147> BakiBB: really depends on what you want to know... you should find it easiey enough to use the desktop after you play around with it for abit, kubuntu also comes with some help info (press f1 in an application)
[18:55] <DarthFrog> BakiBB: Depends upon what you mean by the basic stuff.  What's your end goal?  To be proficient at the command line?  To understand system administration?  Or to learn the desktop user interface?
[18:56] <James147> DarthFrog: :D
[18:56] <DarthFrog> James147: Great minds think alike!  Or is it, fools seldom differ? :-)
[18:56] <amichair> BakiBB: I learned (and still do) by picking things I want to get done, then figuring out how to do them (using google, this channel, built-in help) and experimenting. Lurking on this channel I learn a lot too :-)
[18:59] <BakiBB> amichair: Thanx, I'll do the same as you...
[18:59] <amichair> BakiBB: and you'll need a bunch of patience too... it takes time, learning little bits at a time :-)
[19:00] <DarthFrog> While patience may indeed be a virtue, the necessity for patience is a PITA! :-)
[19:01] <amichair> How true, with Linux more so than elsewhere...
[19:01] <BakiBB> for the starters, I'd like to see how to set my network up, and from what I heard - that is a WIDE area
[19:02] <BakiBB> did I mention I have NO IDEA how stuf work in linux...
[19:02] <BakiBB> :)
[19:02] <BakiBB> well, almost nothing...
[19:03] <amichair> BakiBB: requirements, hardware and configurations vary wildly... do u have experience with this stuff on other platforms? that sure helps.
[19:03] <James147> BakiBB: what do you mean by set up? connect? then to what, wired wireless?
[19:03] <BakiBB> well, I chewed up Mikrotik prety well, whitch is quite similar tu this I presume...
[19:06] <BakiBB> I have a Wireless AP which is in WISP (connects to a wireless ISP and passes the connection to me through wire), also there is another PC in the network (My sister in law-using windows)
[19:07] <amichair> BakiBB: you seem to already be online... what else are you trying to achieve?
[19:07] <BakiBB> I'd like to see what is my IP, to know how to change it, how to check my MAC and change it if possible
[19:07] <BakiBB> and if it can be done through terminal - even better
[19:07] <James147> BakiBB: hmm, not heard of a WISP before :S  ... I would start with the network widget, should be in your system tray,
[19:08] <BakiBB> Nope...
[19:09] <BakiBB> not in the tray
[19:09] <BakiBB> hold on
[19:09] <BakiBB> OK, Menu/System/administration/Network
[19:10] <BakiBB> there it is
[19:10] <James147> BakiBB: there should be an icon in the lower right of the screen that deals with connecting to networks,
[19:11] <BakiBB> I know, but it is not...
[19:11] <amichair> BakiBB: one priceless thing to know is using "man <command>" and "<command> -help" in the console. For example, if I mention ifconfig or iwconfig...
[19:11] <BakiBB> I use this Multimedia editing distro
[19:11] <BakiBB> oh, hold on
[19:12] <James147> BakiBB: weird... right click the system tray > System tray settings > check "Networkmanagment"
[19:12] <amichair> BakiBB: right-click on the system tray, and check the communications and network management checkboxes
[19:12] <BakiBB> terminal should be better...
[19:12]  * James147 finds connecting to the wireless via terminal a pain
[19:13] <BakiBB> ok, I'll be back after losing my nerves with terminal
[19:13] <BakiBB> ;)
[19:13] <woodzy> anyone have a clue how to get radiotray to work under kde?
[19:14] <woodzy> it loads in the system tray but won't play any radio stations.
[19:17] <BakiBB> ummmmm.... A little help.... How do I leave the manual (Man ifconfig)
[19:17] <James147> q
[19:19] <DarthFrog> BakiBB: you might also find "xman" to be useful.  Gives you a graphical man page reader.
[19:21] <DarthFrog> It looks gawdawful, using the Motif toolkit  (I think) which is an ancient graphical widget set.
[19:36] <BakiBB> Why did noone tell me that "q" gets you out of "man"?
[19:36] <BakiBB> :)
[19:36] <James147> BakiBB: i did :)
[19:37] <BakiBB> oh, indeed you have...
[19:37] <BakiBB> but please...
[19:37] <BakiBB> q
[19:37] <BakiBB> q!?
[19:37] <BakiBB> :)
[19:37] <James147> :)
[19:37] <FloodBotK1> BakiBB: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:38] <DarthFrog> BakiBB: You'll find that "q" will quit many utilities.
[19:38] <BakiBB> OK... I'll be kicked out as a flooder
[19:38] <James147> BakiBB: you wont
[19:38] <James147> BakiBB: FloodBotK1 just warns you
[19:39] <DarthFrog> BakiBB: One of the nice things about Unix utilities is that they tend to leverage your knowledge, in that the same keys execute the same commands in different utilites.
[19:40] <BakiBB> great, thanx!
[19:40] <BakiBB> This is what I meant as the propper help
[19:41] <DarthFrog> OK, then here's some more help.  Learn the vi editor. :-)  At least, learn the basic usage of vi.
[19:42] <James147> DarthFrog: heh, think learning the basics of the terminal first would be a good idea :
[19:42] <DarthFrog> Then you'll know many of the utility key commands.  And you'll also be able to use the most powerful editor known to man.
[19:42] <amichair> BakiBB: and before you start using vi, install the vim package - that way vi will look nice and colorful and friendly
[19:43] <DarthFrog> James147: Oh, I agree.  Std In, Std out and pipelining are good things to be able to manipulate. :-)
[19:43] <James147> ^^ to a given deffinition of 'friendly' ;)
[19:43] <amichair> James147: :-D
[19:43] <DarthFrog> vi is user friendly.  It's just ... choosy as to whom it befriends. :-)
[19:51] <amichair> BakiBB: another small piece of advice, if it's relevant, is to use a virtual machine (such as virtualbox) - then you don't have to be afraid of breaking things, or waste too much time when you do - you can always revert to a previous snapshot
[19:53] <amichair> it's great for experimentation
[20:11] <rui> hey people
[20:11] <rui> can anyone helpeme with the sound
[20:12] <rui> deixa ver se tenho ajuda aqui
[20:14] <rui> please can anyone helpeme
[20:29] <jackle86> Hello
[20:29] <jackle86> Anyone here currently alive?
[20:29] <jackle86> lol
[20:30] <DarthFrog> No, we're dead this year.  For tax reasons, you understand.
[20:32] <andrey> рш
[20:32] <andrey> hi
[20:32] <andrey> to everybody
[20:32] <andrey> i'm a new
[20:32] <andrey> i had installed at kubuntu
[20:33] <andrey> and from today and don't know  until what a day i'm a lol
[20:33] <andrey> if somebody can help
[20:33] <andrey> me
[20:33] <andrey> thank for all
[20:34] <andrey> шы фтнищвн рщьу
[20:34] <andrey> is anybody home
[20:34] <andrey> ???
[20:34] <andrey> ^)
[20:35] <James147> andrey: what problem are you having?
[20:35] <andrey> at the beginning this is my first steps in ubuntu
[20:36] <andrey> and please tell for what this irc channel
[20:36] <James147> andrey: this channel is the kubuntu support channel
[20:37] <andrey> to James147 thank you
[20:37] <andrey> if i aill have a problem
[20:37] <andrey> i will make u subject in this irc channel
[20:37] <andrey> ok?
[20:38] <James147> andrey: if you have a problem, or a question about kubuntu then ask here
[20:42] <jackle86> So if I heard right, you're dead?
[20:42] <jackle86> OMG!
[20:42] <jackle86> Lol
[20:42] <jackle86> Pie
[20:42] <jackle86> SPAM
[20:43] <jackle86> >.>
[20:43] <jackle86> <.<
[20:43] <jackle86> v.v
[20:43] <jackle86> ^.^
[20:43] <FloodBotK1> jackle86: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:43] <jackle86> ...
[20:43] <jackle86> Okay then
[20:44] <jackle86> FloodBotK1 just TOLD me
[20:44] <jackle86> lol
[20:44]  * jackle86 slaps FloodBotK1 around a bit with a large trout.
[20:44] <jackle86> :D
[20:45] <jackle86> This is my new
[20:45] <jackle86> car!
[20:45] <jackle86> lol.
[20:46] <jackle86> lol
[20:46] <jackle86> jk
[20:46] <Pici> jackle86: stop that.
[20:46] <amichair> jackle86: please stop.
[20:46] <jackle86> Fine then
[20:47] <jackle86> Right now I am just BORED TO DEATH.
[20:47] <Pici> jackle86: This is a support channel.  If you just want to chat try #ubuntu-offtopic or #kubuntu-offtopic
[20:47] <jackle86> Okay
[20:50] <woodzy> is it possible to disable or uninstall user switching and accessibility features ?
[20:53] <andrey> guys
[20:53] <andrey> i have a small problems
[20:53] <James147> !ask | andrey
[20:53] <andrey> i had installed kubuntu 9.04
[20:54] <andrey> and it was updated to 9.10
[20:54] <andrey> and after this to 10.10
[20:54] <andrey> right now
[20:54] <andrey> if i turn on my computer
[20:55] <andrey> i see that i have ubuntu 9.04, ubuntu 9.10 and ubuntu 10.10
[20:55] <andrey> with  recovery modes
[20:57] <andrey> and a question........how can i to delete referenceы
[20:57] <andrey> and a question........how can i to delete referenceы
[20:57] <andrey> and a question........how can i to delete references
[20:57] <James147> andrey: run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" (to make sure everythings uptodate and installed right) then try removing the odl kernels
[21:02] <andrey> i was received that "updated 0, installed 0 new packets, for deleteng 0 packetsов, and 0 paccket didn't updated"
[21:02] <James147> andrey: ok, then uninstall the old kernels
[21:02] <andrey> how ?
[21:03] <andrey> what i need to do for this
[21:03] <andrey> ?
[21:03] <andrey> name andrey andrey(4 day with ubuntu)
[21:04] <James147> andrey: find all the packages you have intsalled that begin with "linux-image-*" and remove all BUT the latest one (DO NOT remove the latest one or you wont be able to boot)
[21:12] <pilulap> Hi all. Does anyone know why each time when I boot my computer, the graphic effects are deactivated and I have to re-activate them manually ?
[21:13] <pilulap> It say that a programm had deactivated the effect but no information about which programm ...
[21:22] <andrewh192> it might be becaause of low system memory
[21:22] <andrewh192> i have had that happen, and sometimes when you are running low on system resources it will automatically shut it off to conserve the few it has
[21:25] <andrey> to James147 i finded a lot of files, can you tell what extensions of the files that i need to erase?
[21:27] <James147> andrey: non, find them in kpackagekit or apt-get and remove them that way
[21:27] <larbac> Hello
[21:27] <larbac> i have a problem with my KDE instalation
[21:28] <larbac> can anybody give me a hint_
[21:28] <larbac> ?
[21:28] <James147> !ask | larbac
[21:28] <larbac> after the update to RC1 beta
[21:28] <larbac> I cant boot anymore
[21:28] <larbac> it stops at a battery check...
[21:29] <larbac> i only can boot with a live cd
[21:29] <larbac> wich i`m working with now
[21:29] <larbac> how can i repair the kde instalation, from live cd?
[21:31] <James147> larbac: probally :) I would start with a update (sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade) from either the recovery menu (not live cd) or as a chroot in the live cd
[21:31] <larbac> my internet conection is made from a wireless conection, so I cant do package instalation from the repair option
[21:31] <James147> larbac: then try a chroot from the live cd...
[21:31] <James147> !chroot
[21:31] <larbac> ok
[21:32] <larbac> im a little newbie with this ehehehe
[21:32] <James147> larbac:  :) dont worry, try to follow taht guide to set up a chroot envrioment, then try updating your system (with the commands above) if you get stuch give us a shout
[21:33] <larbac> ok, gonna try
[21:34]  * James147 notes that that guide might not be the best for this situation...
[21:35] <James147> larbac: give me a sec
[21:35] <larbac> ok
[21:39] <James147> larbac: http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2010/06/02/how-to-chroot-to-ubuntu-using-live-cd-to-fix-grub-rescue-prompt/  is better, although to get networking to work cp /etc/resolv.conf to the chroot envroment as well
[21:39] <larbac> ok, lets see
[21:41] <James147> (also, you  dont need to do the grub-install part :) that will reinstall grub)
[21:41] <larbac> Jamer147- OK
[21:41] <larbac> sorry, James
[21:43]  * James147 notes that most clients support name completion via the <TAB> key
[21:46] <Daskreech> !tab | larbac
[21:47] <larbac> ok James147  and ubottu
[21:48] <larbac> one problem: when I try the command $ sudo mount ‐‐bind /dev /media/xx..xx/dev
[21:48]  * James147 makes note of another useful factoid :D
[21:49] <larbac> where xxxx, should be /media/disk/home/
[21:49] <James147> larbac: replace /media/xx..xx/dev with the actual path to where you mounted it
[21:49] <James147> larbac: it should be the root drive, not the home drive
[21:50] <larbac> it should be /media/disk
[21:50] <larbac> or not?
[21:50] <James147> larbac: so it you mounted it at /media/disk  when it should be /media/disk/dev
[21:50] <larbac> James147: a got an error with that too
[21:50] <James147> larbac: can you pastebin the out put of the command "mount"
[21:51] <larbac> wait
[21:51] <larbac> James147: Usage: mount -V                 : print versionn       mount -h                 : print this helpn       mount                    : list mounted filesystemsn       mount -l                 : idem, including volume labelsnSo far the informational part. Next the mounting.nThe command is `mount [-t fstype] something somewhere'.nDetails found in /etc/fstab may be omitted.n       mount -a [-t|-O] ...     : mount all stuff
[21:52]  * James147 wasent expecting a help menu :S
[21:53] <larbac> James147:  I f try to access the disk, from terminal
[21:53] <larbac> i can see the files
[21:53] <larbac> so it is mounted
[21:53] <James147> larbac: ^^ what did you type to get that output?
[21:54] <larbac> James147: sudo mount ‐‐bind /dev /media/disk/dev
[21:54] <James147> larbac: :)  can you patebin the output of "mount" (by its self without arguments)
[21:54] <James147> !pastebin | larbac
[21:55] <larbac> ubottu: thanks / sorry for beeing newbie :S
[21:55] <James147> :)
[21:58] <larbac> James147:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/548366/
[21:58] <larbac> is this it?
[21:59] <James147> larbac: no, just run "mount"  without the "--bin /dev /media/disk/dev" (and without sudo)
[21:59] <larbac> James147:  Oh ok
[22:00] <larbac> James147: http://paste.ubuntu.com/548368/
[22:00] <amichair> what's the command (cli) to sync time with a timeserver?
[22:01] <James147> larbac: seems to be mounted at /media/disk-1  (or /media/mp3)
[22:02] <Daskreech> amichair: ntpdate I think
[22:02] <larbac> James147:  Oh wait, i had dismount the disk
[22:02] <James147> so use disk-1  as xx..xx  (/media/disk-1/dev )
[22:03] <larbac> James147:  sorry, are you there?
[22:03] <James147> larbac: :) you will want it mounted then
[22:03] <larbac> James147: http://paste.ubuntu.com/548369/
[22:04] <amichair> Daskreech: looks good, thanks
[22:04] <James147> larbac: ok, that seems right.. what happens when you run "sudo mount ‐‐bind /dev /media/disk/dev" now?
[22:05]  * James147 ponders if kde rc1 is stable enough to upgrade his main computer  to...
[22:05] <larbac> James147: I got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/548370/
[22:06] <James147> larbac: ok... and can you pastebin the output of ls /media/disk
[22:07] <larbac> James147: http://paste.ubuntu.com/548371/
[22:07] <James147> hmm
[22:07] <larbac> strange
[22:09]  * James147 is unsure why that isent working
[22:11] <larbac> James147: any other sugestion?
[22:12] <James147> larbac: if you can, i would suggest trying to get a wired connection and trying through the recovery mode, sorry, I really dont understand why that command sient working :s
[22:12] <larbac> James147:  yeap, I have to take it to my store, and connect it there
[22:13] <larbac> still gonna try some more things
[22:13] <larbac> James147: thanks for your help
[22:13] <James147> larbac: good luck
[22:13] <larbac> James147: thanks, i-m gonna need it
[22:22] <larbac> James147:  can this do the same? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=846323
[22:22] <larbac> James147: these commands are all accepted
[22:23] <larbac> James147:  I think its working
[22:24] <James147> larbac: yeah, they could work
[22:24] <larbac> trying to install KDE-FULL command
[22:24] <larbac> and its instaling
[22:24] <James147> larbac: also, make sure you install kubuntu-desktop
[22:24] <larbac> James147: I saw at KDE forum, that install kde-full is better
[22:25] <larbac> James147:  Many, Many thanks for showing me the direction where to go
[22:26] <James147> larbac: kubuntu-desktop will pull in everything that the default install should have (everything needed by kubuntu at least) kde-full will install the entire kde suite
[22:26] <James147> larbac: either way, you should install kubuntu-desktop,
[22:26] <larbac> James147: OK, after the kde-full, i will do kubuntu-desktop
[22:27] <larbac> James147:  another 10 minutes and will see eheheheh
[22:29] <James147> larbac: if that fails you can try renaming /etc/X11/xorg.conf (if you have one) to reset x settings
[22:39] <woodzy> how do i use 'sudo apt-get' to reinstall firefox?
[22:41] <James147> woodzy: sudo apt-get install --reinstall firefox
[22:42] <larbac> James147: OK James
[22:43] <woodzy> thanks, james.
[22:45] <woodzy> will i break kubuntu if i install the gnome core services 'sudo apt-get install gnome-core' ?
[22:47] <James147> woodzy: no, you can even install all of gnome if you want
[22:55] <woodzy> thanks james, but does it matter if i use kdm or gdm ? more than likely i'll stick with the kde desktop as my primary desktop.
[23:01] <James147> woodzy: shouldnt make much difference, and you can always switch back if you want
[23:02] <woodzy> oh, i can switch between kdm and gdm? cool!
[23:06] <onslaught> i have hi
[23:06] <onslaught> sorry hi
[23:06] <James147> Hello onslaught
[23:06] <onslaught> i have some problems with my multi-screen configuration...
[23:07] <onslaught> i have some problems with my double screen configuration on KDE4.5. I configure screen resolution via K>system setting>screen. first device 1440X900 pos 0;30 and device_2 1680x1050 pos 1500;0. It's works but when i restart, i have to reconfigure screen resolution because device 1  1440x900 and device 2 as clone of first.... How i can fixe that ?
[23:11] <onslaught> if someone knows...
[23:11] <Daskreech> woodzy: switching between  gdm and kdm is harder than that (though not at all hard) but switching between KDE and GNOME (or fluxbox Xfce LXDE or Enlightment) is v very easy
[23:15] <James147> DarthFrog: as easy as stopping one and starting the other :) just need to be alright on command line ;)
[23:15] <woodzy> last time i tried this was on kubuntu 9.04 (i think) and one of my installations go hosed (i kept the kdm as suggested) - i shouldn't have that problem this time?
[23:15] <James147> woodzy: shouldnt have had that problem the first time :S
[23:17] <woodzy> when i had kubuntu 9.10 i ran 'sudo apt-get install gnome-core' and it prompted me which should i use: kdm or gdm and i stuck with gdm
[23:17] <woodzy> so you're saying if i now use 'sudo apt-get install gnome-core' that my system won't break?
[23:18] <woodzy> oops. parallel that. i meant to say i stuck with kdm since i was doing this on kubuntu 9.10 (not gdm as i stated, sorry)
[23:18] <James147> woodzy: it shouldnt... i have had both gnome and kde installed before (my laptop currently has them both... although i installed ubuntu-desktop rather then gnome-core)
[23:19] <woodzy> brings me to my next question: does ubuntu-desktop add more features/files than plain gnome-core ?
[23:20] <James147> it will install everything the default ubuntu desktop has
[23:23] <meshal> السلام عليكم
[23:23] <meshal> فيه احد هنا
[23:23] <onslaught> oh strange
[23:27] <woodzy> james, is it possible to go into 'safe mode' and tell the system whether i want to use kdm or gdm ?
[23:30] <rats__> woodzy: you should be able to pick which session at login
[23:31] <woodzy> okso, thanks.
[23:32] <lengau> @woodzy - If you're trying to choose KDE or GNOME, rats__ is correct. As far as choosing which you'd like to use for your login screen, the command 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm' should give you an option to choose which one. From either you'll be able to log into both KDE and GNOME.
[23:33] <woodzy> that exactly clarified things, lengau. thanks rats and lengau.
[23:34] <James147> woodzy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm  will let you pick when one you want to use by default again (note you can pick kde or gnome from both kdm or gdm)
[23:35] <woodzy> thanks james, i wasn't sure if i worded my question correctly. :)
[23:37] <James147> woodzy: otherwise you can run "sudo start kdm" (or gdm) to start it manually (after stopping the other one with "sudo stop kdm")
[23:38] <James147> ^^ its best to stop kdm/gdm when you arnt loged into kde/gnome though :)
[23:47] <rohdef> what can I do if ecryptfs-mount-private do nothing?
[23:48] <rohdef> it doesn't even ask for a password or anything
[23:50] <heinkel_111> anyone else using audex for cd ripping here?
[23:51] <heinkel_111> I get error messages when trying to read/write from cddb
[23:51] <rohdef> heinkel_111, I have it installed, so most likely
[23:51] <heinkel_111> it is an alternative to k3b
[23:51] <heinkel_111> k3b crashes on last song, always for me
[23:51] <heinkel_111> i rip to flac format
[23:52] <heinkel_111> audex seems more stable, but I have database lookup/write probles
[23:52] <heinkel_111> problems
[23:52] <heinkel_111> I was wondering if others are experiencing/already solved that kind of trouble
[23:53] <rohdef> I haven't had any like that sorry
[23:57] <woodzy> i just got done installing 'sudo apt-get install kde-full' and now my icons are 'scrambled' :-\