[00:27] <n00bo> hi..is there any particular reason or advantage why lubuntu uses openjdk instead of sun'S (now oracle's) jdk?
[03:05] <phillw> hyperair: maybe you can answer this one .... "(00:27:45) n00bo: hi..is there any particular reason or advantage why lubuntu uses openjdk instead of sun'S (now oracle's) jdk?"
[03:06] <n00bo> i'd really like to know... ^^
[03:06] <phillw> I'm guessing it is about licensing issue.
[03:06] <n00bo> hmm
[03:07] <n00bo> did oracle changed sth?
[03:07] <hyperair> phillw: because of licensing issues?
[03:08] <hyperair> sun/oracle's jdk is sitting in partner.canonical.com or something
[03:08] <hyperair> you can always enable that repository to get it
[03:08] <n00bo> afk for 5
[03:09] <phillw> hyperair: so it will be because it is not in the main repositories?
[03:09] <hyperair> yes
[03:10] <phillw> okies, then at least n00bo has an answer, thanks for the explanation :)
[03:11] <n00bo> thx
[03:15] <phillw> n00bo: fortunately on the real small Lubuntu team we have a couple of MOTUs. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU I just call them Sir :D
[03:23] <phillw> n00bo you will be receiving an invite to our offtopic channel, we chill out on there along with people from several other teams :)
[03:44] <n00bo> i don't like that aqualung audio player..any recommendations for another  music player? something capable for listening radio-streams and mp3's without any "media-librarys"?
[07:55] <UndiFineD> \o/ got dropbox working
[07:55] <UndiFineD> installed, but not using nautilus
[07:58] <UndiFineD> now all i need is chromium to sync
[08:00] <hajour> $ chromium-browser
[08:00] <hajour> [18842:18842:21147969110:ERROR:chrome/browser/sync/profile_sync_service.cc(542)] Unrecoverable error detected -- ProfileSyncService unusable.Sync Configuration failed.
[08:00] <hajour> [18842:18842:21147969179:ERROR:chrome/browser/sync/profile_sync_service.cc(546)] chrome/browser/sync/profile_sync_service.cc[937] Observe
[14:44] <hajour> hai all .are you all still alive?:P
[14:45] <hajour> o o wrong chat sorry
[18:19] <bittin> bittin@jabber.se i need more geeks to chat with :)
[18:20] <hajour> hai bittin
[18:21] <bittin> hi
[18:22] <hajour> how are you bittin ?
[18:23] <bittin> great
[18:23] <hajour> i think a lot are eating now or work
[18:26] <hajour> what would you like to talk about bittin ?:)
[20:18] <haddiman> Does gnome-do work well with Lubuntu or will it need to install a bunch of extra gnome libraries? Is there a similar program that's more lightweight?
[20:19] <bioterror> what does gnome-do do?
[20:19] <Mark76> What does agadoo do do?
[20:19] <bioterror>     A launcher application for gnome (like Launchy or Katapult)
[20:21] <haddiman> Oops sorry, should have specified that. It allows you to quickly start up programs or find files. You hit a keyboard shortcut and start typing and just hit enter when it finds what you're looking for. It's a lot faster than going through menus.
[20:21] <bioterror> alt+f2
[20:22] <Yorvyk> haddiman, look at kupfer
[20:24] <haddiman> bioterror: Haha, very true. I already use that for some things, but I never considered it as an answer to my question. It would be the most lightweight solution but pretty limited in functionality compared to gnome-do.
[20:25] <bioterror> I know my systems, I've never found usage for that kind of application
[20:29] <haddiman> Yorvyk: Kupfer looks nice. Thanks! Some googling tells me that it is indeed more lightweight than Gnome-do. It doesn't need the mono libraries and all that.
[20:30] <Yorvyk> haddiman, It is rather pleasant little program
[20:30] <haddiman> bioterror: To each their own I guess. I just find if useful that instead of opening up PCman or Chromium and manually navigating to what I'm looking for I can just quickly type it and hit enter.
[20:31] <haddiman> There's also a lot plug-ins that you can do all sorts of things with.
[20:33] <Yorvyk> haddiman, kupfer can be a bit fiddly to get things setup how you want but worth the effort I think
[20:34] <sultan2> http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2010/12/putin-orders-russian-move-to-gnulinux.html
[20:34] <Mark76> Hey sultan2
[20:35] <bioterror> haddiman, install gnome-do and bind it to alt+f2
[20:35] <bioterror> problem solved
[20:35] <sultan2> Hallo Mark76 ;)
[20:39] <haddiman> bioterror: I don't think you understand my question. My concern is that Gnome-do will install Mono and Gnome libraries. I'm looking for something with similar functionality but more lightweight.
[20:40] <Mark76> Have you eaten any more pu...
[20:40] <bioterror> well, you cant have all those neat features without dependencies
[20:40] <Mark76> No, I can't do it
[20:51] <haddiman> To people with Broadcom wireless cards: do you prefer the STA or the B43 drivers? My card supports both and I've gotten conflicting information as to which works better.
[20:54] <bioterror> people seems to use B43 more
[21:17] <UndiFineD> o/
[21:25] <sultan2> \o UndiFineD
[22:48] <foxnesn> how do i create a launcher in Lubuntu? it is not like Ubuntu where you just right click the desktop
[22:48] <foxnesn> guessing it is a LXDE thing
[22:48] <bioterror> what
[22:48] <bioterror> like desktop icon or what
[22:49] <foxnesn> app launcher
[22:49]  * bioterror does not compute
[22:51] <Yorvyk> .desktop file?
[22:51] <bioterror> I was about where to find them, but seems to be something else
[22:51] <bioterror> havent used gnome for a while and even if i have, no idea about app launchers
[22:52] <Mark76> You have to drag a .desktop file from /usr/share/applications to ~/Desktop
[22:58] <foxnesn> hrm
[22:58] <foxnesn> more of an app launcher
[22:59] <foxnesn> i installed an application and now i want to launch it from the menu
[22:59] <foxnesn> in ubuntu you can right click on the desktop and make it and then drag it
[22:59] <foxnesn> but there is no launcher menu item when right clicking in Lubuntu
[22:59] <foxnesn> seems like a weird limitation using LXDE instead of Gnome
[23:01] <bioterror> things are done differentely
[23:01] <bioterror> when you install something using apt-get, it usually goes to menu
[23:01] <foxnesn> yea
[23:01] <foxnesn> not in LXDE all the time which is fine
[23:01] <foxnesn> i just have to manipulate the LXpanel
[23:01] <foxnesn> not a big deal i got it now
[23:02] <foxnesn> thought maybe there was a quicker way
[23:02] <bioterror> good night
[23:06] <sultan2> Good night