[00:08] <ScislaC> Is Rhythmbox not playing anything for anyone else in Natty? (been like this a couple weeks here)
[00:09] <penguin42> ScislaC: To be honest I don't use Rhythmbox so I wouldn't know
[01:03] <alex_mayorga> ScislaC: bug # 688732 maybe?
[01:07] <alex_mayorga> what else can I provide to help end my kernel woes at bug#693828
[01:07] <alex_mayorga> is the bug bot on holiday?
[01:10] <penguin42> hmm
[01:14] <penguin42> alex_mayorga: There's a vbox oops in those logs, doubt it's the underlying cause but it might be worth forcibly removing any virtual box stuff
[01:14] <alex_mayorga> penguin42: uninstall vboxose?
[01:15] <penguin42> yeh
[01:16] <alex_mayorga> penguin42: removing...
[01:24] <alex_mayorga> penguin42: now they're gone
[01:24] <penguin42> good luck!
[01:39] <dooglus_> where can I find the dialog that allows me to set the amount of 'desktop effects' I want?  I thought it was in prefs>appearance but I don't see it there now
[01:39] <dooglus_> I mean the thing that lets me turn compiz off and on I guess?
[07:20] <cpatrick2008> i was wondering when the kpackagekit bug is going to be fixed i saw that kde fixed the problem in version 0.6.3,2
[09:06] <speedvin> Hello
[11:06] <speedvin> Hello!
[11:06] <speedvin> Does someone know when firefox package will be updated in natty?
[11:50] <nperry> Let me build some gingerbread
[12:33] <nperry> Hmmm
[12:33] <nperry> I've got an ugly nautilus
[12:36] <penguin42> ugly?
[12:37] <nperry> Asec
[12:37]  * penguin42 seems to have a different problem; most of the stuff on Places doesn't work
[12:38] <nperry> Has tried unity in a while
[12:38] <nperry> *Haven't
[12:38] <penguin42> yeh I've not tried it in a couple of weeks
[12:39] <nperry> http://img689.imageshack.us/i/screenshotmu.png/
[12:41] <penguin42> nperry: Hmm, I've noticed privileged stuff is running with a very plain theme
[12:42] <nperry> Thats my defination of ugly :P
[12:45] <popey> moo
[13:31] <patdk-wk> nperry, that has to be very annoying, I dunno what I would do with unity on my 4 screen desktop
[13:37] <nperry> ?
[13:41] <patdk-wk> the screenshot
[13:41] <patdk-wk> having to move the mouse between screens to access the menubar
[13:42] <patdk-wk> or in my case, move it through 4 screens to get to it
[13:43]  * penguin42 tries to remember - how did MacOS solve that?
[13:44] <patdk-wk> dunno, never touch a mac here
[13:50] <penguin42> I just ask since Macs have a similar paradigm and have had multihead for literally decades
[13:51] <patdk-wk> I actually have macos in a vm, I should attempt to run it again, and try a dualscreen in it
[13:51] <patdk-wk> dunno if it would work though
[13:52] <patdk-wk> running macos in a vm isn't the easiest of things
[13:55] <penguin42> patdk-wk: Getting dual head in a VM isn't easy either!
[14:03] <patdk-wk> penguin42, I have no issues doing dual head with my windows vm's :) I haven't tried ubuntu dual head vm's yet, but ya, I normally don't use them that way
[14:03] <penguin42> patdk-wk: Which VM system do you use that is easy to do dual head on?
[14:03] <patdk-wk> vmware workstation
[14:07] <penguin42> ok
[16:03] <h4f> hey people. how do I convert on the fly to 64 bit with no reinstall from cd ?
[16:03] <Volkodav> I don't think it is possible
[16:03] <Jeruvy> h4f: you don't, you will need to reinstall
[16:04] <h4f> Jeruvy:  there is no other ways ?
[16:04] <penguin42> h4f: There is no sane way to do it
[16:04] <h4f> penguin42:  are there insane ways to do  it ?
[16:05] <Volkodav> I know some gentoo users did that
[16:06] <penguin42> h4f: You can create a 64bit chroot with debootstrap, it won't work until you boot a 64bit kernel though, and then you can swap the two sets around - very very messy and loads of things will need manually straightening out
[16:28] <kuvu> h4f: you can set up vbox disks - windoze, 64-bit linux, etc
[16:29] <h4f>  kuvu: and what to do with them ?
[16:30] <kuvu> h4f: whatever you want to do on the fly?
[16:30] <h4f> kuvu: I just wonted to swithc my system from 32 bit install to 64 bit
[16:30] <h4f>  kuvu: and realized that there are no easy ways to do it :D
[16:31] <h4f> besides total reinstall
[16:31] <kuvu> h4f: in that case re-install is the best
[16:32] <kuvu> h4f: much easier on the long run
[16:33] <Yorvyk> h4f, create a small partition and install 64 bit os then mount the old partition as /home
[16:34] <h4f> Yorvyk:  yes that might work it is the similar to reinstalling
[16:36] <Yorvyk> h4f, It was quicker than restoring all the data when a friend did it.
[16:44] <alex_mayorga> how can I check the validity of all packages on a system?
[16:45] <alex_mayorga> something like checksuming them against the repository or similar
[16:49] <patdk-wk> heh, I need to upgrade mine from 32 to 64bit, but remounting /home isn't good enough :(
[16:49] <patdk-wk> I have lots and lots of edits in /etc, /usr/share, /var, ...
[16:50] <coz_> alex_mayorga,   look here    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomatedTesting
[16:50] <patdk-wk> just going install 64bit to a new drive, and spend time re-editing everything
[16:55] <bjsnider> patdk-wk, it might work if you reinstall without reformatting/repartitioning
[16:56] <patdk-wk> I think that would just cause package madness :)
[16:56] <bjsnider> another way is you could copy the /etc directory and whatever else is edited and past them into the new install to replace what's there
[16:56] <patdk-wk> ya, that is basically what I'm going do
[16:57] <patdk-wk> it just takes time :(
[16:57] <patdk-wk> everything is running fine on it now, just 64bit vm's are slow
[16:57] <patdk-wk> cause of the 32bit host os
[16:57] <patdk-wk> and well, programs are limited to like 3gigs of ram
[16:58] <kuvu> 64-bit host and then 32-bit guest is better imo
[16:58] <patdk-wk> is kcrypt still limited to single cpu?
[16:58] <patdk-wk> kuvu, yep, but have to upgrade the host first :)
[16:59] <kuvu> reinstall is best
[16:59] <patdk-wk> I think the cpu I had a few years ago didn't support 64bit
[16:59] <patdk-wk> then it didn't matter, cause the motherboard only supported 3gigs ram
[16:59] <patdk-wk> now on a new system and stuck on 32bit :)
[17:00] <kuvu> reinstall shouldn't take that long
[17:00] <patdk-wk> it doesn't
[17:00] <patdk-wk> just resetting up everything after it's installed, does
[17:02] <patdk-wk> apache, mythtv, openvpn, nfs, samba, squid, firewall, mysql, WDE, dhcp3, radvd, dns, munin, ...
[17:02] <patdk-wk> nothing in it self is hard, just 5min here, 5min there, ..., adds up to a while
[17:02] <coz_> hey guys...noticing  almost  "0"  set for password timeout
[17:22] <penguin42> alex_mayorga: debsums
[17:43] <Quintasan> Can someone take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/694825 ? It's driving me mad, my installation crashes almost right after booting. Can anyone reproduce this or it's something faulty with my installation?
[17:44]  * penguin42 looks
[18:19] <bittin> abittin@jabber.se i need more geeks to chat with :)
[18:22] <alex_mayorga> coz_: not quite I believe
[18:22] <alex_mayorga> penguin42: debsums looks more like it
[18:23] <coz_> alex_mayorga,  but a noticeable decrese in time out ...yes?
[19:04] <billybigrigger> anyone here running vbox 4 in natty?
[19:14] <charlie-tca> yes
[19:21] <billybigrigger> charlie-tca, did you just replace natty with maverick using the vbox repo?
[19:22] <charlie-tca> no, I downloaded 4, removed 3.2, and then installed 4
[19:22] <charlie-tca> As far as I know, you can not upgrade to 4
[19:32] <billybigrigger> this is a fresh natty install so no upgrading here
[19:33] <billybigrigger> so you downloaded the maverick .deb then?
[19:33] <billybigrigger> http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.0.0/virtualbox-4.0_4.0.0-69151~Ubuntu~maverick_i386.deb
[19:33] <charlie-tca> yup
[19:33] <billybigrigger> ahhh
[19:33] <charlie-tca> But that is how I have installed every version, too
[19:33] <charlie-tca> You also have to download the extension file for usb to work
[19:41] <billybigrigger> link?
[19:42] <billybigrigger> nvm ill google
[19:42] <billybigrigger> :P
[19:48] <charlie-tca> http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[19:48] <charlie-tca> need the extension pack, just double-click to install
[20:46] <matrixa1> any way to get ff3.6 from the repo's without having becoming a transitional package to ff4.0? Need some older plugins, just want to know if i can do this in a nice way
[22:29] <BUGabundo> evening mum and ded!
[22:30] <Spirits-Sight> how can I use this deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/habnabit/hab-ppa/ubuntu YOUR_UBUNTU_VERSION_HERE main  deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/habnabit/hab-ppa/ubuntu YOUR_UBUNTU_VERSION_HERE main with the prerelease?
[22:33] <charlie-tca> doesn't look available for maverick or natty
[23:39] <magn3ts> Ubuntu shutdown time is sorta atrocious in last couple releases including natty so far
[23:40] <BUGabundo> yep
[23:40] <BUGabundo> even on SSD
[23:53] <bjsnider> shuts down quickly here
[23:53] <bjsnider> and starts up quick too
[23:53] <Daekdroom> It looks alright in here.
[23:53] <magn3ts> startup time is fantastic. though unity just broke with the latest updates again :(
[23:53] <penguin42> shutdown is being OK for me, the boot up however on one machine is a different matter
[23:54] <BUGabundo> boot is fine
[23:54] <BUGabundo> shutdown takes almost the same amount as boot
[23:54] <BUGabundo> lol
[23:54] <Daekdroom> Both are fast in here, and it's a 4 year old PC
[23:55] <Daekdroom> Well.. I think it is 4 years old.
[23:59] <BUGabundo> 3 yo laptop, with ssd