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flourishing7aveilleux: please look at the beginning of the next paste, it seems it is asking for some form of parameters: http://paste.ubuntu.com/548097/00:02
aveilleuxflourishing7: it's --keyserver, not -keyserver00:03
aveilleuxflourishing7: Actually, all of those commands should have -- in front, not -00:03
aveilleux(except the - at the end)00:04
flourishing7ok00:04
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flourishing7aveilleux: I also tried to reload the synaptic ... the result is at the end of the next paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/548099/00:09
aveilleuxflourishing7: Don't bother with Synaptic. It's just an apt frontend; you'll get the same results as apt-get.00:11
aveilleuxflourishing7: Those are the only solutions I know. The update server you're operating on may not be functioning properly. try this:00:14
aveilleuxflourishing7: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list00:14
ibuclawhttp://extras.ubuntu.com <- what's that?00:14
aveilleuxFind the line that's something like: deb http://us.extras.ubuntu.com/ etc ect and put a hash in front of it (#)00:15
aveilleuxflourishing7: Then save and run sudo apt-get update once mor00:16
aveilleuxe00:16
flourishing7ok00:16
flourishing7aveilleux: it is not us.extras just extras - it is: http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu maverick main00:18
aveilleuxflourishing7: Whatever it is. Put a hash in front.00:18
flourishing7aveilleux: it responded: E: The update command takes no arguments00:21
aveilleuxThat's right, it doesn't00:21
aveilleuxflourishing7: "once more" was a part of the sentence, not the command.00:21
flourishing7Aveilleux: sorry - now it says: The program 'udo' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:00:22
flourishing7sudo apt-get install udo00:22
aveilleuxsudo00:22
aveilleuxnot udo00:22
flourishing7aveilleux: sorry, the result is at : http://paste.ubuntu.com/548101/00:24
aveilleuxThat makes no sense at all.00:25
aveilleuxflourishing7: Paste the output of: cat /etc/apt/sources.list00:25
flourishing7aveilleux: it is at : http://paste.ubuntu.com/548105/00:27
aveilleuxflourishing7: Oh. Also comment out the deb-src line for extras.ubuntu.com (line 48)00:29
aveilleuxflourishing7: By that I mean put a # in front00:29
flourishing7aveilleux: http://paste.ubuntu.com/548107/00:32
aveilleuxflourishing7: So we're good.00:33
flourishing7does this mean that we omitted part of the updates?00:33
aveilleuxflourishing7: We removed the extras.ubuntu.com repository. But don't worry; there's nothing on that server right now. (That I could see)00:34
flourishing7ok  thank you - let me just see if I can send a picture of the keys that I now have because I was trying to fix this for hours via reading the forums and ran some commands00:35
flourishing7aveilleux: can you please look at this : http://imagebin.org/12983200:41
flourishing7:-)01:14
mymrhelpdeskok i think i have an easy one not directly ubuntu but an application xchat is there anyway to save the channels you are logged into? and rejoin them when you login?02:29
UndiFineDmymrhelpdesk, rightclick a channel and add it to your favorites02:32
nhandlerI have a 1tb external hard drive. For one reason or another, it got zeroed. I am now having a hard time getting it reformated either in windows or ubuntu. Both struggle to even detect it, and when they do, they fail to format02:35
nhandlerAny suggestions?02:36
holsteinhmmm02:36
holsteinmight want to hit it with a tool02:36
nit-witnhandler, you might try the latest grub on a bootable cd02:36
holsteini use http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/02:36
holsteincould be dead :/02:36
nit-witnhandler, SORRY GPARTED02:36
holsteinyeah, gparted is on the UBCD and my usual first tool02:37
nit-witultimate boot is good02:37
nhandlernit-wit: I tried using whatever gparted is in the maverick repositories. I also tried running it off of some live cd I had sitting around. I'll try UBCD later02:37
roydaman2ok need help dual booting xp and zorin on seperate HDD02:50
roydaman2need to know how i should edit the GRUB file02:51
aveilleuxroydaman2: If you set up Windows first, then Zorin, the installation of GRUB should automatically pick up Windows on the second drive.02:51
roydaman2thats what everything i read on google said but it didnt02:52
aveilleuxroydaman2: Then log into Zorin and run sudo update-grub from Terminal02:52
roydaman2ive had xp forever now and wanted to transition to ubuntu so i DL the iso burnt it and installed but i can only boot to xp unless i put in the live DVD02:53
aveilleuxroydaman2: You have to set the Linux drive to boot first in BIOS.02:53
roydaman2ok im in Zorin now ill try it02:53
roydaman2ok its asking if i want to generate /boot/grub/menu.lst02:54
roydaman2i said yes02:55
aveilleuxroydaman2: Did you catch what I just said? That's more important.02:56
roydaman2setting the linux drive to boot first02:56
roydaman2yes so restart enter BIOS setup change so IDE (linux) is booted before SATA (XP)02:57
roydaman2can do will try that now be back sdoon with answers02:59
roydaman2thanks ave02:59
Roydaman2ok aveilleux thatw as exactly what needed to be done03:05
Roydaman2thank you very much for your help i been reading and tryin all day to get that03:05
Roydaman2*done03:05
aveilleuxRoydaman2: I had the very same setup at my old work, and that was the same problem03:06
Roydaman22 mins of talkin to some 1 that understands what i needed and BAM!! done03:06
Roydaman2well your help was greatly appreciated everything i read kept tellin me to edit the GRUB file03:06
Roydaman2nothing about changing the HDD boot order03:07
Roydaman2maybe we should post somethin out there for the next person03:07
aveilleuxRoydaman2: the only problem is that everyone tries to troubleshoot Linux, as if it were the problem03:07
aveilleuxwhich is not always the case.03:07
Roydaman2ok next question for you or n e 1 that may know it says i have 2 versions of linux installed03:08
Roydaman2this one im using and one on hda503:08
aveilleuxRoydaman2: What does it say for a name?03:08
Roydaman2umm i cant remember the whole thing but one was linux.......2.6.something and the other was the exact same just on hda503:09
Roydaman2there was 2 entries for both like a regular and i think it was safeboot03:10
Roydaman2so there were 4 linux entries and 1 XP03:10
aveilleuxUnusual.03:14
Roydaman2thats what i was thinking03:19
shiginsWould dual booting 32bit ubuntu with 64 bit windows cause any problems?03:19
Roydaman2but hey it works htis way so what the hay ill just leave the other one alone and go on about life03:20
Roydaman2shigins i have 32 bit XP and 64 bit ubuntu working right now03:20
aveilleuxshigins: No.03:20
Roydaman2so as long as your hardware can handle it i dont see why not03:21
Roydaman2or not03:21
Roydaman2avellieux knows more than me about this03:21
shiginscool beans03:21
Roydaman2just curious tho avellieux y not??03:21
aveilleuxRoydaman2: Why... wouldn't it cause any problems?03:22
Roydaman2the only one ive had so far is the booting issue but thats fixed03:22
shiginshowd you fix it03:22
Roydaman2and i had  32 bit xp and 64 bit suse for a long time03:23
aveilleuxshigins: I meant that it would cause no problems.03:23
Roydaman2changed the order my HDD's booted03:23
aveilleuxshigins: Though there's no reason to not run 64-bit, since just about everything in Ubuntu is compiled for both arches03:23
shiginswell I just happen to have a 32 bit ubuntu and 64 windows03:24
shiginsso I am going to go with it03:24
Roydaman2well let me know how it works out either way03:24
Roydaman2please03:24
Roydaman2wonder if i can run 64 64??03:24
aveilleuxRoydaman2: What?03:25
shiginsif windows installs well03:25
shiginsI already have ubuntu installed but not windows03:25
Roydaman2sorry was talkin to shigins03:25
shiginsalso I have an wifi card that I need to install drivers for can I do that for ubuntu using windows? Ubuntu wont read the CD and I cant hardwire my desktop to the internet03:26
aveilleuxWhat architecture your OS is built for is not dependent on any other software running on your system.03:27
aveilleuxshigins: Ubuntu and Windows don't use the same driver system.03:27
aveilleuxshigins: Why can you not run a wire?03:28
shiginsnot in the same room03:28
Roydaman2aveilleux hes prolly borrowin the neighbors net03:28
shiginsnot really convient to03:28
aveilleuxshigins: What wireless chipset/card is it?03:28
shiginswell when I try to run the cds in ubuntu it just opens them up03:29
shiginsnetgear itsa usb03:29
aveilleuxshigins: Windows driver installation will *not* work in Ubuntu.03:29
aveilleuxshigins: What model number?03:29
shiginsyeah03:29
shiginsWNA310003:29
shiginsso its a catch 22 for getting myself set up03:29
shiginsI need drivers I can only get from the internet03:30
shiginsbut I need the drivers to get on03:30
Roydaman2shigins is there another comp. in the room with the router??03:30
shiginsyeah03:31
shiginstucked away in a corner of a cabinet03:31
Roydaman2u have a thumb drive??03:31
shiginsseveral03:31
aveilleuxshigins: Download this package and install it. http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/broadcom-sta-common03:33
shiginsIf I used a gateway copy of xp you think that would be bad?03:33
aveilleuxshigins: Those don't generally work on the hardware they didn't come with...03:34
shiginsright then03:34
Roydaman2http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1549190 i found that thread about it and they seem have to gotten it resolved so if aveilleux's solution doesnt work maybe try that03:35
shiginsnow where do I stick these package files? Sorry for being completely new03:36
aveilleuxRoydaman2, shigins: I saw that, but since it's a Broadcom chipset that's supported using the STA driver, you'll be fine.03:37
shiginsIve looked up that thread too03:37
aveilleuxshigins: Just double-click on it. GDebi will open up and install it for you.03:37
shiginsso with this I wont need to install any drivers?03:37
aveilleuxshigins: These ARE the drivers.03:37
shiginsAHA03:38
shiginswell then lets give it a whirl03:38
aveilleuxshigins: In Linux, "drivers" are designed as add-ons to the kernel -- kernel modules03:38
shiginsnope I got nothing03:41
aveilleuxshigins: You may need a reboot.03:41
aveilleuxshigins: Also, what network manager are you using?03:42
shiginsmy router?03:42
aveilleuxshigins: No, the network management software. Right-click on it and hit "About"03:42
aveilleuxshigins: Also, did the package install successfully?03:43
shiginswell I checked the closed when installed03:44
shiginsand what exactly am I right clicking? Sorry.03:44
aveilleuxshigins: How do you know you have no wireless network options?03:44
shiginswhen I click the connection icon all it displays is disconnected wired networks03:45
aveilleuxshigins: Yes, right-click on that.03:45
aveilleuxshigins: That's not just a status icon. That's the actual network management software.03:45
shiginsThen it appears I am using NetworkManager Applet 0.803:46
shiginsif that helps03:48
aveilleuxshigins: Open Terminal for me and Pastebin ( http://pastebin.ubuntu.com ) the output of the command: cat /etc/network/interfaces03:48
shiginsun momento03:53
shiginsNo such file or directory03:55
aveilleuxshigins: That directory must exist. Did you type it properly?03:56
shiginscat /ect/network/interfaces03:56
shiginswhoops03:56
aveilleuxetc03:56
aveilleuxnot ect03:56
shiginshttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/548131/03:57
aveilleuxshigins: Is that it?03:58
shiginsyesir03:58
aveilleuxOh, whoops03:59
aveilleuxwrong file03:59
shiginsat least Im not the only one messin up03:59
aveilleuxshigins: cat /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf  #Linux is case-sensitive, you MUST type the caps exactly as shown03:59
shiginshttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/548133/04:04
aveilleuxshigins: See how "managed" under [ifupdown] is "false"?04:05
aveilleuxshigins: Run: gksudo gedit /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf04:06
aveilleuxshigins: Change "false" to "true" (no quotes)04:06
aveilleuxshigins: Reboot and let me know the results.04:06
shiginsDo I type "Run:" in the terminal?04:09
aveilleuxshigins: No.04:09
aveilleuxshigins: I meant "run that command"04:09
shiginswhat result am I looking for? If its an awareness of the hardware then I dont tihnk I got iy04:12
shiginsit*04:12
aveilleuxshigins: Normally if Network Manager doesn't manage ifupdown (the connection) then wireless networks won't appear. Hm... Open up System > Administration > Additional Drivers and see what's listed there04:13
shiginsI have a Hardware Drivers option which promts me with "Downloading package indexes failed, please check your network status. Most drivers will not be available." I also tried running the cat command again and its coming up with no file exists04:15
shiginsignore that last part04:16
aveilleuxIt can't run without Internet access? That's interesting.04:16
shiginsquite interesting04:16
shiginsso Im shit out of luck?04:17
aveilleux!language | shigins04:17
ubot2shigins: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.04:17
aveilleuxshigins: You can say SOL, but not what it means ;-)04:17
shiginspardon04:17
aveilleuxshigins: I don't think so, I think I'm overlooking something.04:17
aveilleuxshigins: Pastebin the output of "lsusb" for me, please04:18
shiginswell its recognizing the Netgear04:20
shiginsone se04:20
shiginsc04:20
shiginshttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/548135/04:23
aveilleuxHm.04:29
shiginshmm04:29
shiginsnothin?04:32
aveilleuxI'm stumped. I really am.04:33
shiginsbutternuts04:34
aveilleuxThe driver module (broadcom-sta) is installed, and the adapter you're using is a Broadcom chipset.04:34
shiginsidk if the CD is its drivers or not04:35
shiginsthe instructions say to install the cd04:36
shiginsthen plug in the adapter and a screen will prompt me to install the drivers04:36
aveilleuxThat system doesn't work on Linux, because it's a Windows program.04:36
aveilleuxWindows applications and programs *do not* run on Linux.04:36
shiginsright but does the information on the CD hold something that is missing to get this running?04:37
aveilleuxThere's a system called ndiswrapper that can use the Windows driver files, but only the *.inf and *.sys files, not any executable that the driver CD may have. You can see if they're on there (look for the Win2k or XP ones)04:39
shiginson my computer?04:40
aveilleuxyou'll need to install these three packages (in order) to use ndiswrapper:04:40
aveilleux1. http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/ndiswrapper-common04:40
shiginsIVe tried putting in Wine but that has me stumped04:40
aveilleux2. http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/ndiswrapper-utils-1.904:40
aveilleux3. http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/ndisgtk04:40
aveilleuxno, you can't use WINE to install drivers. That's not how it works.04:40
shiginsah04:40
aveilleuxWINE is for programs, nothing else.04:40
shigins.exe's I thought though04:41
shiginsnvm04:41
aveilleuxYes, programs.04:41
aveilleuxDrivers aren't programs.04:41
shiginsinstalled and rebooted04:44
aveilleuxshigins: run gksudo ndisgtk # in Terminal04:45
shiginsok04:46
shiginsshows no current installed drivers04:46
aveilleuxYes. Put in the CD and see if you can find the drivers on the disc. There should be a *.inf file in a directory that's labeled Windows 2000 or Windows XP04:47
aveilleuxOh, while I'm at it, you'll also need to uninstall the Broadcom drivers. sudo apt-get purge broadcom-sta-common04:48
shiginsonly .inf is autorun04:48
shiginsin bin > driver folder is Setup.exe and TRANS.TBL04:49
aveilleuxAh.04:49
aveilleuxshigins: You ran the installer in WINE?04:49
shiginsno04:49
shiginsI have no idea how to get wine working04:49
aveilleuxYou'll have to install the package, which has quite a few dependencies.04:50
aveilleuxhmm...04:50
aveilleuxYou know what I'm going to do? I'm going to find the drivers for you. What model is the adapter again?04:50
shiginsWNA310004:50
shiginsIve poked around for linux drivers for it but didnt come up with anyithng04:51
aveilleuxYou mean WNDA3100?04:51
shiginsWireless-N 300 USB Adapter WNA310004:51
shiginsno D to be found04:51
aveilleuxAh04:51
aveilleuxWeird, Google failed me the first time around04:52
aveilleuxshigins: http://sublevel21.com/archives/targz/wna3100_drivers.tar.gz04:58
aveilleuxwhoops04:58
aveilleuxshigins: http://sublevel21.com/archives/targz/wna3100_driver.tar.gz04:58
shiginsnow what do I do with this info04:59
shiginsWireless-N 300 USB Adapter WNA310005:00
aveilleux?05:00
shiginswhat do I do with what I just downloaded05:01
aveilleuxExtract it (open it and drag the files out into another folder), then load the inf file into ndisgtk05:03
shiginsall the files or just the inf05:03
shiginsbecause I did just the inf and it said bad driver05:03
shiginsinvaild driver*05:03
aveilleuxTry one of the sys files05:03
shiginsnot a valid .inf file05:04
aveilleuxAre you running 64-bit Ubuntu?05:04
shigins3205:04
aveilleuxTry bcmwlhigh5.sys05:05
shiginsthats the one I just did05:05
aveilleuxbcmwlhigh5.inf didn't work?05:05
shiginssays "Not a valid driver .inf file"05:06
aveilleuxThat makes no sense...05:06
shiginsaye05:07
shiginsoh wait05:07
shiginsa second try with the .inf05:07
shiginsand it seems to say "Hardware Present: Yes"05:07
shiginstime to reboot?05:08
aveilleuxIs ndis-gtk telling you to?05:08
shiginsno I just hit install and its displaying the picture of two computers with that text under it05:09
aveilleuxOh05:10
shiginsI do have a strange terminal here though05:10
aveilleuxdo this: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart05:10
aveilleuxsee if your network manager can pick up the connections now05:11
shiginsit asks me for my password05:11
shiginsbut wont let me type it05:11
aveilleuxYes05:11
aveilleuxsudo doesn't echo the password to the screen as asterisks05:11
aveilleuxhit Ctrl+C, then try again. Just make sure to be accurate with your keystrokes.05:12
aveilleuxOr, I suppose you could use gksudo /etc/init.d/networking restart #if you're more comfortable with the asterisks05:12
shiginsWARNING: ifup -a is disabled in favour of NetowrkManager.05:12
aveilleuxYes, that's fine05:13
shigins     Set ifdown:managed=false in /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf05:13
shiginsok05:13
shiginsIm going to reboot for good measure I guess05:13
aveilleuxMay as well05:13
shiginshttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/548141/05:15
shiginsthat was in a terminal05:15
shiginsduno if its of value05:15
aveilleuxThat's fine.05:16
aveilleuxQuit out of ndisgtk, then reboot05:16
shiginsnothing seems to be going on05:17
aveilleuxBy the way, the hashes (#) are only there when I need to type after a command, to explain it. It's the "comment" syntax of Terminal (ie. anything after a # in Terminal won't even be looked at)05:17
aveilleuxYou don't need to put the hashes in05:17
aveilleuxYou shouldn't still have that log in the Terminal if you've rebooted... ndisgtk is only for installation and uninstallation of wireless drivers.05:18
aveilleuxUse the connection manager next to the clock and see if it's picking up the wireless networks.05:18
shiginsnope05:18
shiginssame two wried networks05:18
aveilleuxDo this: echo -e "blacklist bcm43xx\nblacklist b43\nblacklist b43legacy\nblacklist ssb" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist05:19
aveilleuxIt's a lot to type, but make sure it's correct05:19
aveilleuxer05:19
aveilleuxecho -e "blacklist bcm43xx\nblacklist b43\nblacklist b43legacy\nblacklist ssb" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf05:19
shiginsdone05:21
aveilleuxNow reboot, since these are only blacklisted at boot time05:22
shiginsnada05:23
shiginshttp://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9855512&postcount=1205:23
shiginsdoes this have any use?05:23
aveilleuxHm.05:24
aveilleuxRun ndiswrapper -l for me in Terminal05:24
shiginsndiswrapper -l05:25
shiginsoops wrong keyboard05:25
shiginsits getting late05:25
shiginsdriver installed05:25
shiginsdevice present05:25
shiginsdo I need to edit the wireles connection?05:26
aveilleuxSince network-manager-gnome is handling it, it should show up there... hm05:27
aveilleuxSee, I don't use network-manager-gnome anymore, I use wicd, so I can't really try anything myself05:27
shiginsdarn05:28
shiginsthis laptop is about to kill over soon anyway05:28
aveilleux:(05:28
shiginscan I manually put in the router information?05:28
shiginsif it says the driver and device are there shouldnt it work05:28
shiginshttp://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9837221&postcount=1005:29
aveilleuxInteresting.05:29
shiginsoh did I still need to uninstall the broadcom?05:30
shiginsbecause Im not sure if it did05:30
aveilleuxshigins: Did you run gksudo apt-get remove broadcom-sta-common #?05:32
shiginsI did but it yielded no response05:32
shiginsnvm05:32
shiginslast time it was purge not remove05:33
shiginsone more restart and I am shooting upstairs to get some router info I hope05:33
aveilleuxWell,05:33
aveilleuxI just modified the source code, so you can do what the forum post says now05:34
shiginsI have no idea what it is aasking me to do05:34
aveilleuxI can walk you through it05:34
aveilleuxdownload http://sublevel21.com/archives/targz/ndiswrapper-1.56.tar.gz and extract it to a folder, let's say "ndis", in your Home folder.05:35
aveilleuxer, scratch that05:35
aveilleuxjust extract it to your home directory05:36
aveilleuxthere's already a folder inside that05:36
aveilleux....shoot, you need gcc installed, don't you05:36
shiginsdont I?05:37
aveilleuxI don't think it comes by default05:37
aveilleuxYou can try it though05:37
shiginswhats next05:39
aveilleuxYou've downloaded it and extracted it?05:41
shiginsyeah05:42
shiginsto the home folder05:42
aveilleuxIn Terminal type cd ~/ndiswrapper-1.5605:42
aveilleuxthen make05:42
shiginsyouve got me in suspense05:44
aveilleuxis it running?05:45
aveilleuxNo no, the command is "make"05:45
shiginshttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/548146/05:47
aveilleuxOkay05:49
aveilleuxnow gksudo apt-get remove ndiswrapper-common05:49
aveilleuxPaste the output of that as well05:49
shiginson a side note I am accessing my router on ie and under wireless settings there is a wireless card access list. in order to add a card it asks for the device name and mac address. is this relevent?05:50
aveilleux....it... what?05:51
shiginsI guess not haha05:51
aveilleuxDoes the router not allow connections without being configured?05:52
shiginsnot to my knowledge05:52
aveilleuxUnusual.05:52
shiginsit never as before but I might be able to manually enter it05:52
shiginsI punched it in05:56
shiginsand it asked me if I wanted to continue [Y/n]? and I typed Y after but nothing happened05:56
aveilleuxHit enter05:59
shiginswell yes06:00
shiginsthat was a given06:00
shiginsthis is a real headbanger06:08
shiginsprobably best to quit for the night06:08
aveilleuxYeah, I don't know06:08
aveilleuxhit ctrl+c06:08
shiginshttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/548146/06:09
aveilleuxdid the apt-get remove command work?06:09
shiginsI dont think so06:10
aveilleuxOpen Synaptic (System > Administration > Synaptic...)06:10
shiginsI entered it serveral times and nothing happened after answering the continue prompt06:10
shiginsyes06:11
aveilleuxenter "ndiswrapper" into the quick search bar06:12
shiginsmark for complete removal?06:13
aveilleuxthe package ndiswrapper-common, its box is filled in?06:15
shiginsthe only package that showed up was ndisgtk06:15
shiginsand the box is filled in for it06:18
aveilleuxthat's... very unusual06:19
aveilleuxyou know what, I'm not going to worry about it.06:19
shiginsI think its just me06:19
aveilleuxgo back to Terminal.06:19
shiginsyea06:19
aveilleuxYou know what it is! Doy.06:19
shiginsI surely wish I did06:20
aveilleuxYou don't have an Internet connection; the uninstall went properly so there's no reference left on the system.06:20
aveilleuxI meant like... "Huh, you know what it is? It's..."06:20
aveilleuxANYWAY.06:20
aveilleuxBack to Terminal.06:20
shiginsok06:20
aveilleuxyou're still in the directory, correct?06:21
shiginsyeah06:21
aveilleuxNow run sudo make install06:21
aveilleuxwhen it asks for your password, remember that it's not echoed back as asterisks06:22
bioterroraveilleux, you should courage people to use checkinstall ;)06:22
bioterrorencourage06:22
aveilleuxto use whatnow06:22
shiginsdone06:22
aveilleuxOh.06:22
aveilleuxRight.06:22
aveilleuxrun sudo checkinstall06:22
aveilleuxIt won't conflict with the make command before.06:23
shiginscommand not found06:24
shiginsdouble cheked spelling06:24
aveilleuxcheckinstall doesn't come in Ubuntu by default? Interesting.06:24
aveilleuxOh well. Not important now.06:24
aveilleuxReboot and see what happens.06:25
shiginsso all i had to do was type sudo make install ?06:26
aveilleuxmake then sudo make install06:26
aveilleuxsometimes programs will need a ./configure as well, but ndiswrapper doesn't06:26
shiginswhen I do the first make it says no target specified06:28
aveilleuxYou shouldn't need to do it again.06:29
aveilleuxYou already did it once.06:29
shiginsbut i did it once and entered the pw06:29
shiginsok rebooted then06:29
shiginsnothing new06:30
aveilleuxIn Terminal type cd ~/ndiswrapper-1.56  #again06:31
shiginsok06:31
shiginsthen what06:31
aveilleuxrun sudo make uninstall06:31
shiginsdone06:32
aveilleuxnow make clean06:33
shiginsdonw06:33
shiginsdone06:33
aveilleuxWe're basically trying again, since I'm not sure it worked the first time06:34
aveilleuxrun make06:34
shiginsnhn06:34
shiginsmhm06:34
shiginsnow what06:36
aveilleuxnow try sudo make install06:38
shiginsdone06:38
aveilleuxtype gksudo ndisgtk06:40
shiginsyup still says hardware is present06:41
shiginsbcmwihigh506:41
aveilleuxHm.06:41
aveilleuxThis should be working, so i really don't know06:43
shiginsits ok06:44
shiginsI think Ill just give it another shot in the morning06:44
shiginsyou have been extremely helpful I am greatful06:44
aveilleuxI need sleep as well06:44
aveilleuxI'm sorry I couldn't solve your problem06:44
shiginsno worries06:45
shiginsgoodnight06:45
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jon8Anyone know of some documenatation on getting my SD Card Reader to be mounted --- in Terminal. I do not use the GUI.07:07
IAmNotThatGuyJoeb454, you have the Card mounted?07:18
IAmNotThatGuyaww jon8*07:18
yofeljon8: usually: plug it in, check in the output of 'dmesg' what device name it got, then 'sudo mount <device name> <mount point>' where device name is /dev/sdb1 and mount point /mnt for example07:48
yofeland don't forget to umount it later (not a typo)07:49
ubuntu_newbiehi09:27
ubuntu_newbiehi09:27
head_victimGday ubuntu_newbie how are you09:27
ubuntu_newbieany one can tell me how to install .exe files on ubuntu09:28
head_victim!wine09:28
ubot2WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu09:28
head_victimubuntu_newbie: you can't install .exe files directly but WINE can help you get a lot of programs running.09:29
ubuntu_newbiethanx09:29
head_victimYou're welcome09:30
ubuntu_newbiei have donwloaded an .exe file and it is in /home/lm but when i try to do cd /home/lm i am not able to get into the folder09:39
head_victimSorry I haven't used wine in years, if you hang around someone else might come along. If you want to try #ubuntu or #winehq they might be able to help09:57
head_victim3 seconds too late.09:58
bilegthello12:14
Puck`hi bilegt12:15
bilegtis it ok for asking questions?12:16
Puck`of course bilegt (:12:16
bilegtis there anybody using older versions of ubuntu such as 8.10 ?12:16
Puck`10.10 here12:19
Puck`(:12:19
bilegtSo can I install latest version of apache on ubuntu 8.10 :) Cuz new versions of ubuntu are running quite slow on my old aged pc12:20
bioterrorbilegt, try lubuntu12:20
bioterrorbilegt, http://www.lubuntu.net/12:20
Puck`you would get the same version of apache i believe, there hasn't any new version come out yet12:22
bilegtthank dude, but i've already tries lxde, it's running as fast as xfce. Xfce is running quite slow when i installed apache12:22
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ggeorgyis possible to connet my phone to internet via usb cable?16:04
ggeorgy :)16:05
ggeorgy??????????????????????????????????????????16:06
nUboon2Ageoh, i think you mean to 'tether' a mobile phone via USB cable ggeorgy16:07
ggeorgyto acces internet on phone via usb16:08
nUboon2Ageon some mobile phones it can be done.  Also some can work via bluetooth connection. and some can actually transmit their own mobile 'hotspot' (such as the Google NexusOne can).16:09
ggeorgyno, i have a simple phone16:09
nUboon2Agewhat kind ggeorgy?16:10
ggeorgysamsung s523016:10
nUboon2Ageggeorgy: here's the wikipedia article i'm looking at about the Samsun s523016:12
nUboon2Ageokay that seems odd to me.  it says it has a WAP browser, but no 3G and no Wifi.  How is one supposed to use the web browsing capabilities??? ggeorgy16:15
ggeorgyso ,is not possible ?16:16
ggeorgybecause has not a browser?16:18
aveilleuxNo16:18
aveilleuxThere's a network called EV-DO16:18
nUboon2Ageggeorgy: it DOES have a WAP browser.  i'm just trying to understand how they expect you to connect to web, but aveilleux says there's a special network called EV-DO for internet connection.16:21
nUboon2Agemaybe its considered non 3G compatible, but still internet connectable16:22
ggeorgyi want to connect pc network to phone but via usb not 3g16:23
aveilleuxggeorgy: What you're saying, I don't think can be done16:23
aveilleuxI've never heard of connecting to the Internet, with a phone, through a computer16:24
nUboon2Ageggeorgy: i see there is a set of Samsung utilities that seem to include a "USB Port Driver"16:24
ggeorgyi have seen on web it work on nokia with pc suite16:26
nUboon2Ageggeorgy: it would be worthwhile to check out those utilities and find out what they do.  maybe its possible.16:26
aveilleuxggeorgy: I think you're thinking of "tethering", which is using the phone as a modem for the computer.16:27
nUboon2Ageggeorgy: i have to correct myself.  earlier i said 'tethering', but that is kind of the opposite of what you're talking about.16:27
ggeorgywhat utilites?16:27
ggeorgyi cant see the link -im using opera16:28
ggeorgycan you paste the link please?16:28
nUboon2Ageggeorgy: i just followed the link and apparently it is not what i thought it was, so scratch that.16:29
ggeorgyok16:30
nUboon2AgeHow about does Samsung have a support forum? ggeorgy16:30
ggeorgyno16:30
nUboon2Agebecause really this question centers on the capabilities of the Samsung phone, not the computer. ggeorgy16:30
ggeorgyi know ,16:31
nUboon2Ageggeorgy: also which carrier is it?16:31
ggeorgyi have a pc suite for this phone but for windows16:32
ggeorgygprs/edge16:33
nUboon2Ageggeorgy: which phone carrier is the phone running on?16:33
ggeorgyos?16:33
aveilleuxggeorgy: Carrier, like Verizon, ATT, Nextel16:34
ggeorgyoeange16:34
ggeorgyorange16:34
nUboon2Ageoh, i have a limitation based on the fact i'm accessing the web from the U.S. -- it keeps pushing me to the Samsung U.S. web site, so i can't see if there is Samsung support for Orange phones, but i think the answer is yes there is. ggeorgy16:36
nUboon2Ageyes to support forums and such ggeorgy16:36
nUboon2Agealso you could try the orange web site and see if they have support16:37
nUboon2Ageha, i managed to get to the Samsung UK site.  are you in the U.K. ggeorgy?16:38
ggeorgynoooo16:39
nUboon2Agewhere are you ggeorgy?16:40
nUboon2Agei know Orange is U.K. based16:40
nUboon2Ageor am i mistaken?16:41
nUboon2Agemaybe its based in Holland?16:41
nUboon2Ageggeorgy: here's the URL for the S5230 manual: http://www.samsung.com/uk/support/detail/supportPrdDetail.do?menu=SP01&prd_ia_cd=23010300&prd_mdl_cd=GT-S5230BDAXEN&prd_mdl_name=GT-S523016:42
ggeorgypk thanks16:43
YorvyknUboon2Age, France16:43
nUboon2Ageggeorgy: on page 33 the manual mentions printing by USB or by Bluetooth.16:46
nUboon2Agelooks like we lost ggeorgy16:47
nUboon2Agethat was an interesting question.  seems to me it should theoretically be possible, but i'd never heard of it before.16:48
nUboon2Agety Yorvyk16:48
nUboon2Agethe manual doesn't go into much depth on internet connections, just mentions web browsing on page 33.16:52
YorvyknUboon2Age, OK. I had an old Siemens phone that could 'connect to the internet'.  It was a bit like the original AOL, in that you could only see the providers part of the net.16:52
nUboon2Ageyeah, i had a metro pcs and a Tmobile phone like that.16:53
YorvykIt was a pain to use.16:54
nUboon2Ageggeorgy mentioned having a PC suite for Window$ for the phone, but not whether that could do what he was talking about.  if so then definitely (at least theoretically but might require software being developed) it should be possible.16:56
nUboon2AgeYorvyk: yes that was my experience too.  and very slow.16:56
nUboon2Agethis Samsung phone that ggeorgy had is actually semi-impressive.  it is MidP Java enabled!!!16:57
nUboon2Ageif it just had 3G16:57
nUboon2Agei want an Android phone with Java MidP16:58
nUboon2Agefor all i know all the Android phones are Java MidP enabled.16:58
nUboon2Agei know Android makes use of Java16:59
YorvykInteresting, it can't be used for Podcasting?17:00
nUboon2AgeYorvyk: sorry i don't understand your question17:02
nUboon2Agei used to work at Sun on MIDP17:02
nUboon2Agei gave up on the US carriers ever getting around to supporting MIDP.  i guess probably some do now, but this is like 10 years later!!!17:03
nUboon2Ageliterally 10 years later17:03
nUboon2Agethe U.S. is so backwards.17:03
nUboon2Ageit frustrates me to no end17:03
aveilleuxDoesn't Verizon support it on its Android phones?17:04
nUboon2Agealso Europe adopted JavaTV (which i also worked on) long ago and still M.I.A. in U.S.17:04
nUboon2Ageaveilleux: maybe, i'll have to check.  thanks for the tip.17:04
nUboon2AgeMerry day 4 of Xmas everyone! ;-)17:05
YorvyknUboon2Age, Sorry the ? shouldn't have been there.  I was looking at the specs and under 'Fun & Entertainment' it says Podcasting - No17:13
BRhello all17:15
nUboon2AgeYorvyk: puzzling i wonder what that means.  maybe it doesn't record audio(?)17:36
aveilleuxnUboon2Age: I think that means it can't stream audio.17:38
Silver_Fox_Hello.18:14
UndiFineDhey blue eye18:15
aveilleux"Blue eye"?18:16
hobgoblinforum avatar at times ...18:17
aveilleuxah.18:17
Silver_Fox_Eye see you...18:17
Silver_Fox_Current one isn't though UndiFineD18:17
Silver_Fox_>:)18:17
hobgoblinsome old thing that needs changing18:18
hobgoblin:)18:18
Silver_Fox_Yar18:18
UndiFineDicq, fail!18:19
UndiFineDAre there some lesson plans for kids using edubuntu ? I would love to teach our kids about turtle, as that is how I started some 27 years ago, but I have no idea how it works anymore18:23
aveilleuxUndiFineD: What is Turtle?18:26
UndiFineDit is a simple thing to explain programming concept, the turle can draw patterns based on your input functions18:27
aveilleuxInteresting18:29
UndiFineDwe have these little mah critters, turtle would be a playground for them18:30
UndiFineDs/mah/math/18:30
UndiFineDthey are math gifted, and it is a challenge to keep their interest peeked18:32
Roydaman2ok i have a new problem18:33
Roydaman2all my audio/video files play in hyperspeed18:34
Roydaman2like theyre stuck in fast foreward18:34
Roydaman2any body have a clue as to whats goin on??18:34
aveilleuxUndiFineD: s/peeked/piqued18:34
aveilleuxRoydaman2: What player?18:34
UndiFineDaveilleux, I grew up with basic, used to peek and poke18:35
UndiFineD:P18:35
Roydaman2banshee, audacious, audacity, gnome18:35
Roydaman2o and rythmbox18:36
aveilleuxInteresting.18:36
Roydaman2thats was i was thinking to and it doesnt matter if i go to you tube they play fast as well18:37
Roydaman2or break.com18:38
Roydaman2its like any file is sped up 5x faster than what it should be18:38
reaperwhen I login window pop up saying enter password for default keyring when I enter password says wrong password and the only password I have is the password to login18:38
aveilleuxreaper: Have you ever changed your password?18:39
reaperno18:39
aveilleuxRoydaman2: It appears to be a bug in the Gstreamer framework ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3193031&postcount=7 )18:40
Roydaman2ok guess ill try that18:41
aveilleuxRoydaman2: You can try using Xine (sudo apt-get install xine) then tell Rhythmbox to use Xine instead of Gstreamer.18:42
aveilleuxRoydaman2: Totem has a Xine version as well (totem-xine)18:42
reaperis their a way I can check to see what the Default password is for that keyring18:43
fatharrahmanhello18:44
Roydaman2ok thats installed lets give it a try18:44
Roydaman2nope still in fast forward18:47
fatharrahmanI installed Ubuntu 10.10 alongside windows 7 in a 3Gib hp with bootable USB every thing was good but now I tried to enter windows restart to see a black screen with error :grub rescue> .      what should I do pleas18:47
head_victim!grub2 | fatharrahman18:48
ubot2fatharrahman: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub218:48
aveilleuxfatharrahman: Ubuntu is installed on the hard drive?18:48
* stlsaint hates lxterminal18:48
fatharrahmanyes18:48
head_victimfatharrahman: I have to head off but that should get you started. Or aveilleux appears to be able to help :)18:49
aveilleuxfatharrahman: Actually the guide I'm going to point you to is here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows18:49
fatharrahmanI can not enter to neither Ubuntu nor windows18:50
aveilleuxfatharrahman: You are using GRUB2, not GRUB Legacy. That will clear up the first section.18:50
aveilleuxfatharrahman: You still have the Live USB, yes?18:50
fatharrahmanyes18:50
fatharrahmanI still have live usb18:50
aveilleuxfatharrahman: Read the page I just linked. Use the Live USB to restore GRUB.18:51
fatharrahmanok18:51
fatharrahmanbut18:51
fatharrahmanI want to mention that18:51
Roydaman2totem-xine18:51
fatharrahmanI didn't make swap does that have an effect?18:51
aveilleuxfatharrahman: A small one, but not in this case/18:52
fatharrahmanok18:52
aveilleuxfatharrahman: It's unrelated to this problem right now.18:52
fatharrahmanthank you I'll head the guideline and feed you bach :)18:52
fatharrahmanback*18:52
aveilleuxI'll take feedbach18:53
fatharrahmanbut which grub does I have aveilleux?18:54
aveilleux<aveilleux> fatharrahman: You are using GRUB2, not GRUB Legacy. That will clear up the first section18:55
fatharrahmanok18:55
Roydaman2ok so how do i get rhythmbox to use  xine instead of Gstreamer19:01
aveilleuxRoydaman2: Apparently it's not an option anymore... Darn... http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7476024&postcount=219:03
aveilleuxRoydaman2: If you want to try something similar, you can use AmaroK (which is the KDE equivalent of Rhythmbox and uses Xine by default)19:03
prat2602hi, i wanted to have ubuntu startup from my flash drive but according to the website i need a startup disk creator, http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download. I do not seem to have this in administration and im using 8.04. Any ideas on what i can do?19:05
Roydaman2ok ill try that just "sudo apt-get install amarok" right??19:05
aveilleuxRoydaman2: Yes.19:06
Roydaman2ok i think im getting used to how this works way faster than XP also19:06
aveilleuxprat2602: Do you mean make a LiveUSB (as in, the LiveCD on a USB stick) or actually install the full system to USB?19:07
aveilleuxRoydaman2: Yeah, repositories are pretty handy19:08
prat2602make a live usb19:08
aveilleuxprat2602: You can just use dd and copy the ISO onto the drive19:09
aveilleuxprat2602: By that I mean, don't just copy the ISO file onto the drive. You need to do a bit-by-bit copy, or use a program like UNetBootIn (which I've never really been fond of)19:10
beachbuddahgm room - greetings from snowy NYC19:11
prat2602thanks aveilleux, il look into it19:12
Roydaman2ok aveilleux hahaha amarok went crazy and crashed hahaha19:14
aveilleuxYikes19:14
aveilleuxI'm sorry but I'll be back shortly19:14
doezHow can I go back and forth with my mouse4 and mouse5 buttons in i.e the file manager?19:27
stlsaintdoez: im not sure what you mean19:44
doezstlsaint: In windows I could go back and forth in folders with my 2 extra buttons on the mouse. Now I can't. Am I missing a driver or something?19:44
stlsaintdoez: have you checked the mouse settings19:45
doezstlsaint: I have, they didn't offer me those settings.19:48
aveilleuxdoez: try installing gpointing-device-settings and running it from System > Preferences > Pointing Devices19:57
aveilleuxdoez: You'll get some more options based on your mouse hardware19:57
doezaveilleux: Thanks, ill give that a try,20:05
doezaveilleux: It did not work. It only modified the scrollbutton. I'm talking about those buttons on the side, the small ones.20:15
aveilleuxdoez: Yeah, I know what you mean. I don't know if Nautilus (file manager) supports back and forward as mouse cues -- I know Epiphany (which uses the same settings as Nautilus) does not.20:16
aveilleuxdoez: Epiphany is a web browser, by the way. Just to clear that up.20:16
doezaveilleux: Yea, it's a Nautlius problem, scrolling between history in firefox is done without a problem.20:17
aveilleuxdoez: Sorry I can't be of more assistance.20:17
doezaveilleux: I thank you for your effort :)20:17
nit-withobgoblin, hey man20:22
nit-withobgoblin, I have to leave shortly I was helping a user notryan on #ubuntu they had a W7 missing the bcd boot, could you watch for them to come back on here is there bootscript.http://pastebin.com/ABFE4pku20:24
kristian-aalborgholstein: ping20:26
kristian-aalborghi ppl20:35
kristian-aalborgcould having the same IRQ assigned to two devices be a problem?20:36
bioterrorcould20:36
bioterrorare you having that kind of situation20:36
kristian-aalborghi bioterror20:37
kristian-aalborgmy spdif sound refuses to work20:37
kristian-aalborgI see that I have the same irq for my video card (with unused hdmi sound) and sound card20:38
kristian-aalborgyou can have a look...20:38
kristian-aalborghttp://pastebin.com/mWriJigi20:38
kristian-aalborgI have tried a variety of distros and settings... it was working before20:39
kristian-aalborgI'm thinking the kernel may have been fixed to recognise a problem it was oblivious to before, perhaps20:39
kristian-aalborgbrb, I'l try to reboot w/ noapic20:40
jdeslaurhow can i write a script that I can execute that will change the ip address and other details for eth0?20:53
jdeslaurlike changing the ip from 192.168.1.10 to 10.0.0.10 with the appropriate broadcasts and what not20:55
bioterroryou can make alias20:56
bioterrornano .bashrc or what ever you're using20:56
bioterroralias something='ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.10 netmask 255.255.255.0'20:57
jdeslaurthanks21:03
bioterrorprobably sudo is needed21:04
bioterrorTue23:05 <bioterror> one thing is make files to /usr/local/bin21:05
bioterrorTue23:05 <bioterror> +to21:05
flam`If I have a CSR already generated and running properly for SSL on one domain, and I want SSL on another domain, can I resuse the same CSR?21:38
bioterrorhi szczur22:08
szczurhi bioterror22:08
fatharrahmanhello22:10
fatharrahmanI am fixing grub2 with guide from documentation  but I can not mount ls /media/0d104aff-ec8c-44c8-b811-92b993823444/boot what should I do or how to unmount it and try another partition??22:12
fatharrahmangrub-probe error22:15
bioterrorit's /dev/something22:15
fatharrahmanhi22:16
fatharrahmanthe /dev is not mounting22:17
fatharrahmanaccording to the guide I should unmount this and try another partition but how?22:18
fatharrahmanon sudo update-grub2 there is also the same error22:20
bioterrorhow did you mess your grub?22:21
fatharrahmancan not find device for /22:21
fatharrahmanoh OK22:21
fatharrahmanI'll tell you22:21
fatharrahmanI installed 10.10 alongside windows7 from live usb then after copleted everything I rebooted and went into windows wich opened a recovery but I escaped windows rcovery and there was grub error22:23
fatharrahmangrub rescue22:23
fatharrahmanam now opening it through live usb22:24
fatharrahmanmount | tail -1, is good22:25
bioterrorhttp://www.ubuntu-inside.me/2009/06/howto-recover-grub2-after-windows.html22:25
fatharrahmanOK22:25
fatharrahmanbut the windows was already installed and I shrieked  a partition for Ubuntu should I read this blog then??22:27
fatharrahmanbioterror: thank you, grub back :)22:51
bioterrornp22:52
bioterrornice to have positive feedback ;)22:52
fatharrahmanI found this windows with 3 partitions so I couldn't  create swap should I remove either recovery partition or system partition?22:55
bioterrorhow much ram you've got?22:55
fatharrahman3 gb ram22:56
Yorvykfatharrahman, Is a useful read on swap https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq22:59
fatharrahmanOK22:59
Yorvykfatharrahman, with 3 GiB you shouldn't  need swap but you can create a swap file instead of a partition23:00
fatharrahmanaha23:01
fatharrahmanThank you Yorvyk23:03
Yorvykfatharrahman, np.23:07
Dexikczhello23:57
DexikczPlease I need some little help :(23:57
DexikczI have installed Zorin OS4, after complete instalation I made update...23:58
DexikczThan rebooted and when in boot menu selected linux I ended up in console... DOnt know how to leave it/how to run regular OS :( Some1 know what can I do?23:58
Dexikcz(Im new to linux)23:58

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