[03:16] <rww> !nbr =~ s/Remix/Edition/
[03:21] <tonyyarusso> loloverdue
[03:30] <rww> !no, intrepidkde3 =~ s/Jaunty/Karmic/g
[03:30] <rww> oops
[03:30] <rww> !intrepidkde3 =~ s/Jaunty/Karmic/g
[03:30] <rww> !intrepidkde3 =~ s/Jaunty/Karmic/
[03:30] <rww> !intrepidkde3 =~ s/Jaunty/Karmic/
[03:31] <rww> !intrepidkde3 =~ s/Jaunty/Karmic/
[03:31]  * rww shakes fist at ubottu
[03:32] <rww> !no, intrepidkde3 is <reply> Kubuntu 8.04 ships with KDE3 and full support. Karmic and above do not include KDE3, but a remix install CD can be obtained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Karmic (or .../Lucid, etc.). This is not officially supported. Support, instructions, and ways to contribute can be found on the wikipage.
[03:37] <rww> !no, noroot is <reply> We do not support setting a root password. Please don't offer instructions on how to set a root password or ask for help with setting it. See !root and !wfm for more information.
[04:41] <rww> ubottu: tell sanchaz-away about away
[05:07] <rww> IdleOne: Why is there a +e on _Synergy_ in #ubuntu?
[05:15] <rww> ah, never mind, found the relevant log
[05:18]  * rww PMs the user asking them to actually get exploit tested, because setting +es on nicks is not a good solution
[05:19] <Jordan_U> What does +es do?
[05:20] <rww> Jordan_U: +e, rather
[05:20]  * rww fails at pluralization
[05:24] <Jordan_U> I tend to do things like "+e's". (even though it's gramatically incorrect)
[05:25] <rww> (and for those wondering why +e somenick!*@* is a bad idea, it means that /nick somenick allows anyone to bypass any ban that might be set on them in the channel)
[05:25] <IdleOne> rww, he was not able to join the other because he was in the victim list. I set a +e but afterwards tsimpson removed from the list
[05:25] <IdleOne> the other day*
[05:26] <IdleOne> you can remove it now I guess
[05:26] <rww> IdleOne: no he didn't :\
[05:27] <IdleOne> he didn't what?
[05:27] <IdleOne> remove from the victim list?
[05:27] <rww> They're still in the victims list and still banned by nick from the channel.
[05:27] <rww> I removed the exempt and told the user in PM to go to -read-topic.
[05:28] <IdleOne> ok
[05:28] <IdleOne> sorry for any confusion I caused
[05:28] <rww> no problem. it's just one of my pet peeves; I'd recommend +e $a:accountname in the future.
[05:29] <rww> or "come back when the FloodBots aren't being crazy", but that might be a little harsh
[05:29] <rww> oy vey, user just ping timedout.
[05:30] <rww> I guess they won't have to join the channel themselves :\
[05:31] <IdleOne> wouldn't +e $a:accountname still allow to bypass a ban?
[05:31] <IdleOne> no it wouldnt
[05:32] <rww> I assume that everyone else guards their nickserv password with their life ;D
[05:32] <rww> that's the exempt form we used in #ubuntu-women during Ridiculous Trollscapade 2010, btw ;)
[06:09] <rww> Thoughts on "!windoze is <reply> Please don't use silly misspellings to denigrate other operating systems. It makes users of that system feel attacked, and hurts Ubuntu advocacy by making you and us look unreasonable."?
[06:09] <rww> The factoid name isn't ideal; superior suggestions especially welcome.
[06:10] <Flannel> I imagine !M$ probably isn't valid
[06:10] <rww> !m$ is <reply> test!
[06:10] <rww> !m$
[06:10] <Flannel> Oh dear
[06:10] <rww> the bot surpasses herself
[06:11] <Flannel> rww: Well, start with that one, and we can alias other things to it, I suppose.
[06:11] <rww> could start with !misspellings and alias !windoze, !m$, etc(?) to it.
[06:13] <Flannel> That'll work.  Except could misspellings be mistaken as an actual "spelling" issue instead?
[06:13] <rww> some English major has to have come up with a specific word for this sort of thing
[06:13] <Flannel> Hmm
[06:14] <rww> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windoze redirects to "Satiric misspelling" >.>
[06:19] <Flannel> Mmm, if I were to pick a dictionary word, I guess I'd lean towards travesty or parody.
[06:20] <Flannel> And then, to patent it, you just add "using a computer" or "on the internet"
[06:28] <rww> I've never seen anyone try to call !misspelling, I figure we just roll with that.
[06:29] <Flannel> sounds good
[06:29] <rww> !misspelling is <reply> Please don't use silly misspellings to denigrate other operating systems. It makes users of that system feel attacked, and hurts Ubuntu advocacy by making you and us look unreasonable.
[06:29] <rww> !windoze is <alias> misspelling
[06:29] <rww> !no, m$ is <alias> misspelling
[06:29] <Flannel> winblows
[06:29] <rww> !winblows is <alias> misspelling
[06:29] <Flannel> !winblows
[06:30] <Flannel> "...making you and the rest of the community..." perhaps?
[06:30] <Flannel> I don't like that "us"
[06:30] <Flannel> But that might just be me
[06:30] <rww> and the community in general?
[06:30] <Flannel> works
[06:31] <rww> !misspelling =~ s/and us/and the community in general/
[06:31] <Flannel> or maybe ust "and the community"
[06:31] <rww> or just "making the the community look"
[06:31] <rww> with one the
[06:31] <Flannel> maybe it should have three "the"s
[06:32] <rww> !misspelling =~ s/you and the community in general/the community/
[06:32] <rww> !misspellings
[06:32] <rww> !misspelling
[06:32] <rww> !misspellings is <alias> misspelling
[06:32] <Flannel> hah
[06:38] <Jordan_U> s/unreasonable/immature?
[06:40] <tonyyarusso> Jordan_U: >
[08:26] <Myrtti> nobody noticed that rwrite is banevading now? mainly though because I didn't notice he's running his irc client on a system that runs ident and could've been banned without the nickname in the banmask
[08:30] <Myrtti> I don't honestly know what to do with him
[08:30] <Myrtti> too tired still
[08:37] <Myrtti> suggestions are taken in
[08:37] <rww> which channel?
[08:38] <rww> nvm, found it
[08:38] <Myrtti> I don't understand where the script writers get their SUCKY quit messages
[08:39] <rww> I'd banforward *!*@zen.netx.org here, personally
[08:40] <Myrtti> yeah, but he's still on the channel
[08:40] <rww> then kick him
[08:40] <Myrtti> I'd probably use the ident too, though
[08:40] <rww> I wouldn't bother. Doesn't look like it's a shell service, just a personal server with an identd
[08:42] <rww> _Synergy_'s now idling in -read-topic, for anyone following that topic.
[08:45] <Myrtti> @now Seoul
[09:13] <Myrtti> tsimpson: the logic of that?
[09:14] <tsimpson> [09:11:12]<iflema> rm -rf
[09:14] <tsimpson> and no reply to /msg, so I just removed
[09:15] <Myrtti> right
[09:15] <Myrtti> well, I can't see what harm that command would do without defining what would be deleted, but YMMV
[09:15] <tsimpson> indeed, that's why I tried to /msg first
[09:16] <tsimpson> but seeing as it wasn't in response to anyone and was the only message they posted...
[09:16] <rww> odd. maybe they mistyped into IRC instead of a terminal :\
[11:51] <Myrtti> !pm > ox3a
[18:23] <Myrtti> !bot > AnggaDj98
[18:31] <knome> what?
[18:42] <Myrtti> oh for goodness sake
[18:43] <knome> congrats
[18:44] <rwr> why am I going in here instead of #ubuntu?
[18:45] <Myrtti> because we want you to discuss about something
[18:46] <Myrtti> you are using epic5 script package?
[18:46] <rwr> what are you talking about?
[18:46] <rwr> yeh
[18:46] <rwr> something wrogn with the script?
[18:46] <Myrtti> could you be kind enough to remove some of the quit messages it randomly uses?
[18:46] <rwr> sure
[18:47] <Myrtti> there's one that made me retch of disgust last night
[18:47] <rwr> sorry
[18:47] <rwr> I was not aware of it
[18:48] <Myrtti> thanks for your co-operation. I don't know what the developers were thinking when they conjured the "candy is dandy but chloroform keeps them still while I molest them" or something like that
[18:48] <rawrite> and was confused why I was joining here instead of #ubuntu
[18:48] <rawrite> sorry. I need to remove the lame epic script
[18:48] <rawrite> not worth it
[18:48] <Myrtti> yeah, that happens, sorry bout...
[18:52] <Myrtti> that.
[18:55] <charlie-tca> lol
[18:55] <charlie-tca> at least they were agreeable :-)
[18:56] <Myrtti> I could've complained about the banevasion but I figured it wasn't worth the time and effort
[18:56]  * charlie-tca nods
[18:57] <Myrtti> if I see that quit message again I'll be most annoyed
[20:43] <jussi> Myrtti: well handled :)
[21:10] <rww> !latest =~ s/  / /
[22:19] <_Synergy_> Ubuntu Ops please fix your bots. Every day I join Freenode on port #7000 (SSL) and your bots refuse me access to #ubuntu saying I have https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit. This has been going on for a long time. Disable that bot or fix it!
[22:19] <_Synergy_> Thanks
[22:20] <rww> _Synergy_: I've already PMed you about this. If it's fixed, type "test me" in #ubuntu-read-topic.
[22:20] <rww> as that channel's /topic tells you.
[22:20] <_Synergy_> The 'test me' option does not work. And it's beside the point
[22:20] <_Synergy_> the bot should not be interfering with me anyways
[22:20] <rww> It does work. It is in fact currently working
[22:21] <_Synergy_> I do not have that exploit, I'm not even on the right port
[22:21] <rww> It is now done. Have a nice day.
[22:21] <_Synergy_> Your right - it's working today
[22:21] <_Synergy_> But it's still not working the way it should.
[22:21] <_Synergy_> thanks
[22:39] <rww> !virus
[22:39] <rww> !linuxvirus
[22:39] <rww> Seems like these could be merged?
[23:09] <rww> pleia2: What's the status on setting up a poll for the IRCC appointment process? I guess Christmas got in the way of it? :)
[23:10] <pleia2> rww: yeah, we need lp admins to get us a full list of email addresses from the irc-members group
[23:10] <pleia2> I think canonical is snoozing for the holidays
[23:10] <pleia2> once we have the list we can set up the condorcet poll
[23:11] <pleia2> the dropping of polls by LP has been a bit of a disaster TBH (I was under the impression that they'd be *adding* features to polling, not getting rid of them entirely!)
[23:12] <rww> LP could do with an "Export to CIVS" feature. I know Ubuntu Women has the same issue, and I imagine others do too.
[23:12] <pleia2> yeah, akgraner had to go to the lp admins to
[23:12] <pleia2> too
[23:12] <pleia2> now with complete removal of polls everyone will need to, it's bad
[23:13] <pleia2> I wish I knew why this happened, or where the discussion about it was :(
[23:13] <pleia2> anyway, sorry for the off-topicness, and apologies for not having a poll yet, I'm trying!
[23:14] <rww> or just make user email addresses available to leaders of groups that the user is in, and have a warning about that on joining a group if the user's email address is hidden. iono.
[23:14] <pleia2> yeah
[23:14] <pleia2> oh and I'll extend Pici and jussi's terms another week if it comes to that, but I'm still hoping we get a poll in the next couple of days :)
[23:16] <rww> thanks for working on it, either way. I'm not trying to rush you, was just wondering if I missed something :)
[23:20] <tonyyarusso> pleia2: it would probably be faster to just manually send everyone an e-mail through LP...
[23:20] <rww> tonyyarusso: Assuming you value the anonymity stuff in CIVS, that doesn't work.
[23:21] <pleia2> tonyyarusso: the email addresses needed to be added to CIVS
[23:21] <pleia2> plus you are limited to how many you can send per day (maybe 20 or so?)
[23:21] <pleia2> so either way, it doesn't really work
[23:21] <tonyyarusso> rww: what is CIVS?
[23:21] <pleia2> the condorcet poll
[23:21] <rww> tonyyarusso: Condorcet Internet Voting System
[23:21] <tonyyarusso> oooh, I see now.
[23:21] <rww> Service **
[23:22] <rww> You set up a poll and feed it email addresses, it emails each address with a unique voting link, and then forgets the email addresses. so votes aren't tied to an individual at all.
[23:22] <tonyyarusso> pleia2: for the latter Canonical_response_time > len(ubuntu-irc-members) / 20
[23:23] <pleia2> yeah, but you still have the CIVS problem, since it's not linked to LP
[23:23] <pleia2> to get all the addresses I could use a script to grab all the addresses, then contact everyone who doesn't have a public address...
[23:23] <rww> the other option is using launchpadlib to pull public email addresses and then emailing ubuntu-irc saying to email $contact_person if you weren't in the pulled list, but that gets messy.
[23:23] <pleia2> but this idea kind of givs me a headache :)
[23:23] <Pici> CIVS sounds like it could be a disease
[23:23] <rww> which is what I did at some point for something
[23:23] <rww> pleia2: yeah, it's a hassle
[23:24] <rww> I'd wait on Canonical, especially since this isn't really time-sensitive imho.
[23:24] <pleia2> I'll appeal directly to Mark if we don't get movement soon (I know he's *around* he was even answering mail on christmas)
[23:24] <tonyyarusso> Pici: agreed
[23:25] <tonyyarusso> pleia2: Those bloody open-source hippie heathens!  ;)
[23:25] <pleia2> tonyyarusso: I know! (I'm one of them)
[23:29] <tonyyarusso> Actually, I was online on Christmas too - all of our actual stuff happens on Christmas Eve, and Christmas Day is "sit around in your pajamas until you decide maybe you should change at least for dinner" day.
[23:30] <rww> I volunteered for work hours on Christmas Day (and New Years Day, actually). Free money :)
[23:30] <Pici> yay, free money
[23:34]  * tonyyarusso wonders how "I worked" equates to "free"
[23:35] <rww> tonyyarusso: not many people return library books on Christmas Day. I did a negligable amount of work.
[23:35] <rww> Maybe this is an odd mindset, but I like my job, so unless it's busy and stressful, it's free money :)
[23:35] <rww> and we're understaffed, so it's usually not free money right now :<