[03:52] <kaushal> hi
[03:52] <kaushal> Please guide me about http://askubuntu.com/questions/18988/openvpn-on-ubuntu-10-10 ?
[08:07] <MartijnVdS> \o
[08:34] <kaushal> hi
[08:35] <kaushal> Please guide me about http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/548164/ on Ubuntu Karmic 9.10
[08:35] <kaushal> Wireless doesnot work
[08:38] <MartijnVdS> 9.10? why not 10.04 or 10.10?
[08:38] <MartijnVdS> those havebetter broadcom drivers
[08:38] <MartijnVdS> also, 10.04 is LTS so it's supported for longer (support for 9.10 will end in april, I think?)
[08:48] <kaushal> ok
[08:48] <kaushal> MartijnVdS: Thanks. I do know it
[08:48] <kaushal> but at the moment any workaround ?
[08:49] <MartijnVdS> I don't know.. broadcom is a weird beast, driver-wise
[08:52] <kaushal> :(
[08:52] <kaushal> MartijnVdS: np
[09:16] <Phineas> I have returned
[09:22] <nperry> Phew
[09:23] <MartijnVdS> Phineas: Za Khaladas.
[09:25] <Phineas> MartijnVdS,  doesn't make any sence to me
[09:26] <nperry> Hmm, just seen an email in my spam from Doug Boner. No imagination about these names :/
[09:26] <MartijnVdS> Phineas: In Starcraft, when you create a Dragoon, the first thing it says when it's done is "I have returned"
[09:26] <MartijnVdS> Phineas: "Za Khaladas" is one of the things it says when you click it (to give it orders :)
[09:27] <Phineas> nperry,  do i know you from somewhere?
[09:27] <Phineas> MartijnVdS,  oh i see, kinda
[09:27] <MartijnVdS> Phineas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D31WIqPyWzk
[09:27] <nperry> Phineas: Are you doug?
[09:28] <Phineas> nperry,  nopr
[09:28] <Phineas> npe
[09:29] <Phineas> nope
[09:29] <nperry> I wouldn't of been happy if you were filling my spam box
[09:30] <Phineas> MartijnVdS,  that voice is just plain funny
[09:31] <nperry>  Not to sure I like Linkin Park's new album :(
[09:31] <MartijnVdS> Phineas: all of Starcraft is :)
[09:31] <Phineas> MartijnVdS,  is that one of those "it's not for linux" games
[09:34] <Phineas> ?
[09:34] <Phineas> nperry,  never herd of him
[09:35] <MartijnVdS> works fine in wine
[09:35] <Phineas> nice rimeing
[09:35] <Phineas> but is it free/
[09:35] <Phineas> ?
[09:36] <nperry> no
[09:36] <MartijnVdS> but it's cheap
[09:36] <Phineas> whats the price
[09:36] <MartijnVdS> google?
[09:36] <Phineas> oh yeah
[09:37] <nperry> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=starcraft+2
[09:37] <MartijnVdS> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Blizzard-Entertainment-Starcraft/dp/B00004U1X0
[09:37] <MartijnVdS> nperry: 2 is so new it might not work with wine ;)
[09:37] <nperry> MartijnVdS: I thought 2 was confirmed as working ok
[09:38] <Phineas> i have found a demo
[09:38] <MartijnVdS> nperry: maybe on new hardware :)
[09:38] <Phineas> roughly how big is the game
[09:39] <nperry> winetricks win7 has to be done for some reason
[09:39] <MartijnVdS> Phineas: ~12cm in diameter
[09:40] <Phineas> MartijnVdS,  no i mean the data on the disk how meny gb is it
[09:41] <MartijnVdS> Phineas: it's one CD
[09:42] <Phineas> MartijnVdS,  oh ok i am trying a free demo (i think its a demo)
[09:46] <Phineas> MartijnVdS,  looks allot like Warhammer
[09:47] <MartijnVdS> it's a lot like warcraft in space (but don't call it that ;))
[09:48] <Phineas> MartijnVdS,  i will play some more later as its fullscreen
[09:50] <Phineas> and i have programing to do (again)
[10:41] <balor> Is today a bank holiday?
[10:47] <marsilainen> balor: in England it is at least
[10:47] <misabur> hi any hints for cnee: Record memory failure  Xnee failed due to bad data received from RECORD extension
[10:47] <MartijnVdS> cnee?
[10:47] <MartijnVdS> what's a cnee?
[10:47] <misabur> a macro utility
[10:47] <misabur> see synaptic :-)
[10:49] <misabur> FYI, I had done an xorg record entry
[10:49] <misabur> But this did not help
[10:50] <MartijnVdS> sounds like the Xorg record extension is broken
[10:51] <misabur> seems so, but may be its an configuration error from myself?
[10:52] <balor> marsilainen: thanks
[11:42] <brobostigon> morning all.
[11:46] <kaushal> hi
[11:46] <AlanBell> o/
[11:52] <brobostigon> hi
[12:00] <nixtux> hiya brobostigon
[12:00] <brobostigon> hey nixtux
[12:02] <Ferb> I have returned
[12:04] <Ferb> za
[12:04] <Ferb> I've forgotten the phrase
[12:08] <Ferb> MargiNS, his does it go again
[12:24] <Ferb> damn it I am not op again
[12:36] <Pendulum> hiya
[12:36] <Ferb> hi pendulum
[12:38] <Ferb> how are you?
[12:39] <Pendulum> ok. you?
[12:42] <Ferb> I am fine, do you have any pets?
[12:43] <Pendulum> not anymore
[12:44] <popey> moo
[12:44] <nperry> I had a pet rock once, i ate him.
[12:44] <Ferb> I on the other hand do have pets, so does my brother
[12:47] <Ferb> my brother has a dog and a cat and I have a platypus
[12:50] <Ferb> the dog is called Odie the cat is called Garfield and the platypus is called Perry
[12:50] <penguin42> a platypus? As a pet?
[12:50] <Ferb> yeah
[12:51] <Ferb> thats right
[12:51] <popey> lies
[12:51] <Ferb> popey, not lies
[12:51] <popey> photo?
[12:51] <popey> ps aux
[12:51] <popey> os
[12:52] <popey> *oops
[12:52] <Ferb> yeah I have a photo
[12:53] <Ferb> but I am on my phone right now and cant upload it
[12:55] <popey> getting quite bored of your trolling
[12:55] <Ferb> its not trolling its making statements
[12:56] <Ferb> threes a huge diffrence
[12:57] <dutchie> any suggestions for what to do with a laptop that had a minor beer accident last night?
[12:57] <UbuntuBhoy> let it dry before attaching power
[12:57] <dutchie> it spent last night in several pieces in the airing cupboard
[12:57] <UbuntuBhoy> 48 hours dry
[12:57] <popey> yes, but all hinge on you doing the corrective action last night, not now
[12:58] <Pendulum> dutchie: pray. I had a minor milk incident with a laptop last october and it took until this October to start showing problems
[12:58] <dutchie> hmm
[12:58] <Pendulum> (and I did all the "correct" actions at the time)
[12:58] <dutchie> last night i pulled the power and battery and got it apart as quick as i could
[12:58] <UbuntuBhoy> thats right, now you can only give it time
[12:58] <sprite> dutchie, take battery out, put in airing cupboard, wash keyboard and leave both for few days t dry
[12:59] <dutchie> wash keyboard?
[12:59] <dutchie> cloth, or full immersion, or what?
[12:59] <sprite> unless u wnt sticky keys ;)
[12:59] <UbuntuBhoy> it should just pop out if its newish
[12:59] <UbuntuBhoy> google for your model
[12:59] <sprite> immersion
[13:00] <sprite> use chemicals tht displace water after to avoid rust
[13:00] <dutchie> sigh
[13:00] <sprite> sh!t happens
[13:00] <dutchie> looks like i will have to head to maplins for such chemicals and better screwdrivers when it's open again
[13:01] <dutchie> i'm not too worried, i spilt it on the opposite side to the HD so the data should be ok
[13:01] <dutchie> so back in the airing cupboard in the meantime?
[13:02] <sprite> just to be safe
[13:02] <sprite> and oil, wd40 displace water
[13:03] <dutchie> dunno if we have any wd40 left
[13:03] <dutchie> but thanks
[13:03] <sprite> k
[13:04] <nperry> dutchie: have another beer fixies it
[13:07] <marsilainen> too many things to do; must stop switching from one to another... focus on one
[13:08] <popey> marsilainen: i can kick you out of the channel ifthat helps?
[13:08] <marsilainen> :)
[13:09] <marsilainen> would help if you could come and fix my adsl line :)
[13:09] <marsilainen> currently online via 3g... yuck
[13:10] <dutchie> popey: bombay mix++
[13:11] <marsilainen> how can one find out what channel other nearby wifi networks are using?
[13:11] <popey> use a wifi scanner app
[13:11] <popey> like iwlist scan
[13:11] <marsilainen> ok, thanks
[13:11] <marsilainen> just want to pick a different channel to others nearby that's all
[13:21] <marsilainen> ok, no-one else use channels 9 to 13 near my house pls
[13:22] <pauliunx> hi,can anyone help me, I keep getting a "An error has occured while mounting /etc/fstab' option and I tried everything to get rid of it but it just won't go away, thanls
[13:23] <marsilainen> pauliunx: when is that error occurring? on boot?
[13:23] <pauliunx> yes
[13:24] <marsilainen> pauliunx: perhaps you could pastebin the contents of your /etc/fstab?
[13:24] <marsilainen> !pastebin
[13:24] <pauliunx>  marsilainen sure
[13:26] <pauliunx> marsilainen: http://paste.ubuntu.com/548224/
[13:27] <marsilainen> pauliunx: line 14 seems to start with 'd#'
[13:27] <marsilainen> shouldn't that just be '#'
[13:27] <marsilainen> I assume that the 'd' there is just a mistake
[13:27] <pauliunx> here's the fdisk -l : http://paste.ubuntu.com/548225/
[13:28] <pauliunx> oh
[13:28] <pauliunx> should I reboot to see if that did it?
[13:28] <marsilainen> I guess that whole line just got pasted in there by accident
[13:28] <marsilainen> sure
[13:28] <pauliunx> [ i honestly completly missed that]
[13:28] <pauliunx> thanks, will do so now
[13:30] <marsilainen> dutchie: FYI the maplins here was open yesterday, YMMV
[13:45] <danfish> afternoon y'all
[13:46] <pauliunx> i'm not sure with whom I spoke with last time so I'll just do a re-post since the error didn't go away
[13:46] <pauliunx> hi, I keep getting a 'An error has occured mounting /etc/fstab. Press S to skip, M for manual recovery' when booting ubuntu 10.10. Here are my pastebins for /fstab and fdisk, can anyone please help me get rid of it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/548230/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/548229/
[13:46] <brobostigon> afternoonings danfish :)
[13:47] <AlanBell> pauliunx: line 14 of fstab, what is that first character?
[13:47] <danfish> brobostigon: :)
[13:48] <AlanBell> pauliunx: in fact just nuke line 14 altogether and reboot (or sudo mount -a)
[13:49] <pauliunx> AlanBell alright I'll give it a shot
[13:51] <danfish> Am I the only one not wanting to go back to work tomorrow?
[13:52] <dutchie> danfish: just fyi, my university term starts on the 16th of jan
[13:52] <dutchie> hth
[13:54]  * danfish pokes dutchie with a very long and pointy stick filled with jealousy ;)
[13:55] <pauliunx> AlanBell: thanks A LOT. that did it...weird thing is, in gedit/nano/pico  that little character wasn't appearing at all, never seen it untill I paste bined it... after removing the line completed it worked like a charm, thanks again :)
[13:58] <AlanBell> no problem
[13:59] <danfish> dutchie: you got exams when you get back?
[14:00] <dutchie> danfish: yes
[14:01] <penguin42> danfish: I assumed the entire planet had those 3 days booked off as holiday
[14:01] <dutchie> i actually have to be back on the 13th, then exams on the 14th
[14:01] <dutchie> term proper then starts on the 26th
[14:01] <dutchie> 16th*
[14:01] <danfish> :( I've never understood why uni's do that - it's like here, have a nice long hols, but we'll hold some exams just to really irritate you
[14:01] <penguin42> yeh don't relax, cram your brains
[14:02] <dutchie> too late
[14:02] <jpds> danfish: To prepare them for life.
[14:02] <dutchie> i have already relaxed and my brain has turned into mush
[14:03] <danfish> jpds: too true. January is the worst month of the year. Very little to look forwards to
[14:27] <marsilainen> right... fingers crossed a new adsl router will have fixed my issues
[15:21]  * DJones wonders if czajkowski or any freenode staffers are hanging about here at the minute?
[15:33] <mgdm> DJones: what's up?
[15:37] <DJones> mgdm: pm ok?#
[15:37] <mgdm> DJones: any time
[15:47] <Ferb> I have returned
[15:49] <Ferb> "deep levels of joy
[15:49] <Ferb> "
[15:51] <Ferb> sorry about that IRC crashed
[15:53] <Ferb> it has a habit of doing that
[16:11] <Ferb> this is the join/quit junction of freenode right now
[16:29]  * Ferb detects this channel is dead
[16:29] <MartijnVdS> It's not dead. It's just pining for the fjords
[16:30]  * brobostigon is ill, so not concentrating.
[16:31] <Ferb> brobisgon, did you check that game out?
[16:32] <brobostigon> Ferb: not yet.
[16:32] <Ferb> the one that my brother suggested
[16:32] <brobostigon> Ferb: i think you will need remind me.
[16:33] <Ferb> my brother suggested the game Beneath A Steel Sky for linux
[16:34] <Ferb> did you check it out
[16:36] <YaManicKill> so, turns out they dont sell the joggler anymore...
[16:36] <brobostigon> yep,
[16:37] <YaManicKill> ach well, got myself an ex-demonstration one
[16:37] <brobostigon> :)
[16:37] <YaManicKill> i'm gonna use it as a bedside-computer/alarm thing
[16:37] <YaManicKill> chuck ubuntu onto it
[16:46] <danfish> YaManicKill: there's some good premade usb images for it including 10.10
[16:46] <YaManicKill> danfish: yeah, so i've read
[16:47] <YaManicKill> pretty easy to do i think
[16:48] <danfish> exobuzz, who hangs around here from time to time has made a couple of good ones - http://joggler.exotica.org.uk/
[16:49] <YaManicKill> ahhh looks good
[16:49] <YaManicKill> i won't get it for a week tho :-P
[16:52] <danfish> I'm planning a big conversion to solar next year....with a (solar powered) joggler as a controller
[16:53] <MartijnVdS> Solar powered? In the UK?
[16:54] <MartijnVdS> (tiny generators in drain pipes -- rain power!)
[16:54] <MartijnVdS> *writes patent application*
[16:54] <brobostigon> lol
[16:55] <danfish> MartijnVdS: hehe - but as we are relatively north, the long hours of daylight are rather good
[16:56]  * danfish wonders how much electricity the Dutch could generate if all bicycles has dynamos and batteries :P
[16:56] <YaManicKill> danfish: haha that sounds awesome
[16:57] <MartijnVdS> danfish: well, generators on bicycles don't generate much power
[16:58] <MartijnVdS> danfish: I calculated it once, when I wanted to charge my laptop and phone off my hub dynamo :)
[16:58] <MartijnVdS> (turns out it's hard to impossible)
[16:58] <MartijnVdS> Now gyms.. those could be self-powered ;)
[16:59] <danfish> MartijnVdS: I've often thought that :) All that wasted gym energy
[16:59] <MartijnVdS> "Want to watch TV? Bike faster!"
[16:59]  * danfish senses a definite patent application :D
[17:01] <danfish> during the recent snow, the local gym closed it's car park - it begged the obvious question - why waste energy running on a 'hamster wheel' when you'd get a much better workout with a snow shovel!
[17:03] <MartijnVdS> danfish: a local gym here gives a discount if you don't need a parking space :)
[17:04] <MartijnVdS> because they only have 10 or so
[17:05] <skybinary> hi, i installed ubuntu 10.10 from usb, went well, i added the totem plugin for dvb-t, went well it found loads of channels from my local transmitter, but totem will not play :(
[17:07] <danfish> MartijnVdS: good idea really
[17:09] <MartijnVdS> danfish: yeah, they sell it as if they want to help you being/becoming healthier :)
[17:15] <danfish> MartijnVdS: I've vowed (yet again!) to cycle into work next year
[17:18] <skybinary> ok kewl, kaffeine works, as long as i kill gnome-dvb-daemon from processes
[17:19] <MartijnVdS> skybinary: because g-d-d grabs the device (to do recordings etc.)
[17:19] <skybinary> MartijnVdS, aww shame , i would prefer to use totem but
[17:19] <MartijnVdS> well, totem talks to g-d-d as well
[17:20] <MartijnVdS> so it should work
[17:20] <skybinary> i think it needs more development for it to work
[17:20] <MartijnVdS> yeah, I'm waiting for DiSEqC  support
[17:21] <MartijnVdS> (so it can address multiple satellites/LNBs properly)
[17:21] <MartijnVdS> also, DVB-S2 would be nice
[17:23] <skybinary> i am hoping now i can copy over the sqlite.db from my old kaffeine install of ubuntu to this,
[17:29] <mbana> i don't like how the the taskbar groups up pidgin
[17:29] <mbana> how do i stop this?
[17:30] <MartijnVdS> mbana: on the left there's a "handle" (just next to the desktop button)
[17:30] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: right click on the handle, "Preferences"
[17:30] <MartijnVdS> uhr
[17:30] <MartijnVdS> mbana: right click on the handle, select "Preferences"
[17:30] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: wrong perosn i think.
[17:30] <MartijnVdS> mbana: there you can select grouping behaviour
[17:30] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: yeah, mb<tab> vs b<tab> :)
[17:31] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: :)
[17:31] <mbana> huh
[17:31] <mbana> i can't find it
[17:32] <mbana> nor can i right click on pisgin
[17:32] <mbana> pidgin
[17:32] <MartijnVdS> mbana: you need to right click on the small bit between the leftmost program in the task list and the "desktop" icon
[17:32] <MartijnVdS> it has a few (hard to see) tiny lines in it
[17:33] <popey> evening
[17:33] <mbana> if it helps, i'm using the LTS release
[17:33] <mbana> hi
[17:33] <MartijnVdS> popester
[17:33] <MartijnVdS> mbana: it has been the same for a few versions now :)
[17:35] <skybinary> serious improvements with 10.10, the nvidia setup now overcomes the failed config file fphew!
[17:36] <mbana> not seeing preferences in the right click menu option
[17:36] <MartijnVdS> mbana: what do you see?
[17:37] <mbana> about, remove,  move and lock to panel
[17:37] <MartijnVdS> mbana: try "about", I want to know what you're right-clicking on :)
[17:37] <mbana> Indicator Applet 0.3.7
[17:39] <MartijnVdS> mbana: ah.. but that's top right, not bottom left :)
[17:39] <MartijnVdS> mbana: I assumed you meant window grouping in the bottom task bar :)
[17:39] <MartijnVdS> You can disable the "indicator" plugin in Pidgin, I think..
[17:43] <mbana> found it
[17:43] <MartijnVdS> \o/
[17:43] <mbana> http://art.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1135719
[18:16] <kvarley> Can somebody help me with installing blackshades?
[18:17] <brobostigon> 1info blackshades
[18:17] <brobostigon> !info blackshades
[18:17] <kvarley> You have to compile it
[18:17] <kvarley> It's a game from 2002, It gives me sdl-config: command not found
[18:18] <MartijnVdS> kvarley: you need to install the development bits of the libraries it needs
[18:18] <MartijnVdS> libsdl-dev in this case, I guess
[18:18] <brobostigon> agreed MartijnVdS
[18:18] <kvarley> Oh ok, thanks MartijnVdS
[18:19] <MartijnVdS> you might hit a few other libraries it depends on
[18:19] <brobostigon> !info libsdl-dev
[18:19] <MartijnVdS> libsdl1.2-dev - Simple DirectMedia Layer development files
[18:20] <bittin> bittin@jabber.se i need more geeks to chat with :)
[18:20] <MartijnVdS> bittin: Aren't we enough geeks? ;)
[18:20] <MartijnVdS> bittin: here on irc?
[18:21] <MattJ> Jabber \o/
[18:21] <MartijnVdS> MattJ: you're biased ;)
[18:21] <MattJ> Of course I am :)
[18:21] <MattJ> It's sensible to be biased towards good things
[18:21] <bittin> MartijnVdS: yea but its always fun to have more jabber contacts :)
[18:22] <MattJ> bittin: when you get to ~500, say that again :)
[18:22] <bittin> :p
[18:26] <kvarley> "./Source/Support.h:8: fatal error: AL/alut.h: No such file or directory" - I have openal-dev though :/
[18:27] <MattJ> kvarley: ls /usr/include/AL ?
[18:28] <kvarley> "alc.h  alext.h  al.h  efx.h"
[18:29] <MattJ> kvarley: what version of Ubuntu are you on?
[18:29] <kvarley> 10.10
[18:29] <MartijnVdS> AL? sounds like libopenal-dev
[18:29] <MattJ> kvarley: libalut-dev
[18:29] <MartijnVdS> MattJ: or that :)
[18:29]  * MartijnVdS reads
[18:30] <kvarley>  MattJ: Yeah that'd make sense, that error has gone. Now to the next... :/
[18:30] <kvarley> "fatal error: vorbis/vorbisfile.h: No such file or directory"
[18:30] <kvarley> Does that mean I need vorbis dev or something>
[18:30] <kvarley> *?
[18:30] <MartijnVdS> kvarley: install "apt-file", then use "apt-file search vorbis/vorbisfile.h"
[18:31] <MartijnVdS> !info apt-file
[18:31] <MattJ> or http://packages.ubuntu.com/ - scroll down to "Search the contents of packages" and type in the missing filename
[18:31] <MartijnVdS> MattJ: but that's slower
[18:31] <MattJ> Depends :)
[18:38] <kvarley> MattJ: Thanks that worked, although it's still not compiling. However, I think I do have all the dependencies.
[18:38] <MattJ> Error?
[18:38] <kvarley> "undefined reference to `IMG_Load'"
[18:39] <MattJ> How did you fix the missing sdl-config?
[18:40] <kvarley> Using that app-file
[18:40] <MartijnVdS> libsdl1.2-dev is only the base
[18:40] <MartijnVdS> you might need more bits (libsdl1.2-image-dev or something)
[18:40] <kvarley> I have libsdl1.2-image-dev
[18:41] <kvarley> And libsdl1.2-dev
[18:47] <MartijnVdS> you might have to run configure again?
[19:00] <kvarley> The audio on quake wars is delayed by about 30seconds. How can I fix this? I tried doing this: http://napalmpiri.wordpress.com/2010/12/17/enemy-territory-quake-wars-sound-works-again-on-ubuntu-maverick-10-10/ but it says permission denied
[19:24] <suprengr> Boo!
[19:24] <MartijnVdS> *yawn*
[19:33] <DJones> MartijnVdS: Can you _yawn_ quietly, some of us are sleeping
[19:33] <MartijnVdS> DJones: *YAWN*
[19:34] <DJones> Damm, that means I'm waking up
[19:34] <suprengr> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[19:35]  * MartijnVdS adds every CD he owns to discogs.com
[19:39]  * suprengr listens to Katerine Jenkins / Dr. Who Abigails track & wonders why han't beep caught onto a potential £spinner yet... get it while its free folfs.
[19:39] <suprengr> *beeb
[19:40]  * suprengr also curses keyboard
[19:41] <MartijnVdS> "?spinner" ?
[19:42] <MartijnVdS> missing unicode char?
[19:43] <DJones> MartijnVdS: That showed as a "£" for me, not "?"
[19:43] <MartijnVdS> DJones: you must be converting latin1 automagically :)
[19:43]  * MartijnVdS utf8s -> £
[19:43] <MartijnVdS> DJones: yours shows up fine
[19:43] <suprengr> [thanks DJones]
[19:44]  * suprengr thinks... type word pounds & help the poor souls?
[19:45] <MartijnVdS> nah, just upgrade to the 21st century by using UTF8 :)
[19:45] <suprengr> ;)
[19:45] <suprengr> wot... upgrade... is swearing allowed on this channel?
[19:46] <MartijnVdS> suprengr: we're not cybermen. We don't mean that kind of upgrading.
[19:46] <suprengr> MartijnVdS: :D
[19:49] <daubers> Evening
[19:50] <MartijnVdS> \o daubers
[19:53] <suprengr> MartijnVdS: are you suggesting Debian UTF-8 migration wizard (utf8-migration-tool)?  In all honesty I wasn't aware of stuff  being mis-translated & so would like to cure it if poss.
[19:53] <MartijnVdS> suprengr: I'm using Ubuntu everywhere, which has been UTF-8 for 6 years now ;)
[19:53] <MartijnVdS> suprengr: which IRC client are you using?
[19:54] <suprengr> I am currently on channel in U10.04 - using x-chat.
[19:54] <MartijnVdS> You can set the channel encoding to UTF-8 in xchat
[19:54] <MartijnVdS> I don't know where exactly, but you can set it :)
[19:54] <MartijnVdS> (I've done it, but I'm now using irssi)
[19:55] <suprengr> will have a look around options/meus/settings/etc & try to find out what's going on... thanks
[19:55] <suprengr> *menus
[20:04] <fred_> eveing all
[20:19] <czajkowski> DJones: sup
[20:21] <suprengr> MartijnVdS: restarting x-chat to enable UYF8 [hopefully]... it was not so hard to find after all
[20:23] <DJones> czajkowski: Sorted now, thanks for asking though
[20:23] <czajkowski> DJones: grand job. making the most of my holidays and not online much
[20:28] <DJones> czajkowski: Hows things back home
[20:29] <czajkowski> good
[20:29] <czajkowski> way too much food
[20:29] <czajkowski> :)
[20:29] <czajkowski> I hea dback over now on Friday
[20:29] <czajkowski> :(
[20:29] <czajkowski> *head
[20:31] <DJones> Too much food, there's never too much food at this time of year
[20:31] <DJones> Hope you have an easier journey back over
[20:44] <kvarley> I have a 30 second audio delay on enemy territory quake wars. I'm on 10.10, how can I fix this?
[20:46] <MartijnVdS> kvarley: by analysing what's causing it
[20:48] <kvarley> Lack of oss support I think
[20:48] <MartijnVdS> so tell the game to use alsa
[20:49] <kvarley> When I do "pasuspender /usr/local/games/etqw +set s_alsa_pcm plughw:0" it says "execvp(): Permission denied
[20:50] <kvarley> Running as sudo doesnt work either
[20:50] <MartijnVdS> anything in the logs? /var/log/*
[20:51] <kvarley> Nope
[20:51] <MartijnVdS> can you "ls -l /usr/local/games/etqw" for me?
[20:52] <kvarley> http://paste.ubuntu.com/548351/
[20:53] <MartijnVdS> so the binary is really /usr/local/games/etqw/etqw ?
[20:54] <kvarley> binary is /usr/local/games/etqw/etqw.x86
[20:54] <MartijnVdS> kvarley: pasuspender is complaining that it can't execute a directory -- which is correct
[20:54] <kvarley> Ohhh
[20:55] <MartijnVdS> missing piece of the puzzle? :)
[20:57] <suprengr> MartijnVdS:  if you not bored of it yet... £ [pound]: is that showing correct to you now?
[20:57] <MartijnVdS> suprengr: it is! £
[20:57] <suprengr> MartijnVdS: wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[20:57] <suprengr> [& thanks]
[20:58] <kvarley> MartijnVdS: That command works now but audio doesnt work at all :/ Weird
[20:59] <MartijnVdS> kvarley: pulseaudio is suspended, maybe you're using the wrong alsa device?
[20:59] <kvarley> I don't even have alsa installed?
[20:59] <kvarley> I have 10.10
[20:59] <MartijnVdS> kvarley: alsa is the kernel layer, it's used by pulseaudio (among others)
[21:00] <MartijnVdS> kvarley: the "+set s_alsa_pcm plughw:0" bit sets the alsa device used by the game to "plughw:0"
[21:00] <kvarley> MartijnVdS: Ah ok, I am unsure how to tweak that though.
[21:02] <kvarley> MartijnVdS: Could I tell the game to use OSS?
[21:02] <MartijnVdS> I have no idea, don't know it
[21:02] <MartijnVdS> also, OSS emulation is arguably worse
[21:02] <kvarley> MartijnVdS: Ok, thanks for the help anyway
[21:08] <Darael> Got a multi-partitioned (all of them NTFS) external hard drive here, want to remove two of them and expand the other to fill the disk.  Gparted claims I need to install ntfsprogs, but ntfsprogs is already installed!
[21:10] <MartijnVdS> Darael: what happens when you use the "Disk Utility" (system -> administration menu)
[21:11] <MartijnVdS> Darael: you can edit partitions in that
[21:12] <Darael> MartijnVdS: I'll have a look.
[21:13] <Darael> MartijnVdS: palimpsest seems to do the job, cheers.  Wonder what's up with gparted... Oh, well.
[21:17] <zleap> tombrough,
[22:50]  * brobostigon rocks out to his xmas pink floyd dvd.
[23:09] <brobostigon> now that is good, while collecting their award, pink floyd, award into the rock and roll hall of fame, to say he wants to collect one for syd barrett, now that is good thought.
[23:09] <brobostigon> david gilmour said.
[23:19] <brobostigon> nos da, sleep well,