[01:17] <ripps> Okay, I have a new mobo with 939 processor and I need a new pci-e video card to go with it, what's the best I can get for around $70-80?
[01:48] <AlphaCluster> ripps: are you hoping to game alot or just want video effects?
[01:49] <ripps> I'm not a huge gamer, but I do play emulator's somewhat regularily. Being able to play psx/n64 games would be nice
[01:50] <ripps> Video playback and future-proofing is my priority
[01:50] <AlphaCluster> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131381 ?
[01:51] <AlphaCluster> Should even have a good Open Source driver ;)
[01:52] <ripps> does it have xvmc in the -radeon driver?
[01:52] <ripps> i know that r600 recently got xvmc
[01:53] <AlphaCluster> isnt 4xxx series r600?
[01:53] <ripps> I don't know, that's why I'm asking :)
[01:53] <AlphaCluster> lol yeah im gu8na go double check
[01:53] <ripps> HD playback is a high priority for me
[01:54] <AlphaCluster> i dont think it has hardware accelleration with the os driver yet
[01:54] <ripps> fast and smooth graphics, 2nd. And 3d gaming is 3rd
[01:54] <AlphaCluster> http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature
[01:54] <AlphaCluster> they have been working on it though.
[01:55] <AlphaCluster> I know the prepriatery drivers provide a VA-API driver. If you want accel you migh twant to go nvidia though its prepriatry it will proved VDPAU for awhile.
[01:56] <ripps> yeah, I'm aware of the fglrx va-api, and I know that it is crap
[01:56] <AlphaCluster> lol i got it working but needed to manually build mplayer
[01:57] <AlphaCluster> i personally have a 5770 and am waiting for the power management to be added to the 5xxx series
[01:58] <AlphaCluster> btw 4xxx series is r700 but r600 and r700 are almost the same...
[01:58] <ripps> I'm considering nvidia, but I'm concerned over the future. You need the proprietary for things to work, but driver has a habit of not working with the bleeding-edge xserver/kernel and I'm also worried about the switch to wayland in a few years.
[02:00] <AlphaCluster> yeah that is why i got ATU
[02:00] <AlphaCluster> ATI
[02:01] <AlphaCluster> it may not be perfect now but they will eventually get it working through gallum
[02:02] <ripps> Can you play you play 1080p video fairly easily?
[02:03] <AlphaCluster> lkol yeah
[02:04] <AlphaCluster> my only issue is sometimes there is tearing on my 5xxx but i would guess that is less common on the 4xxx as it has better XV support
[02:04] <ripps> I'm not entirely sure what the processor with this mobo is. I know it's an amd 64 bit, and it's 939 socket. But I don't have a fan for it yet, so I can turn on the computer yet to check out the specs.
[02:04] <ripps> s/can/can't/
[02:05] <ripps> I'm purchasing a video card and fan now
[02:08] <AlphaCluster> nice
[02:09] <AlphaCluster> well if you got a dual core you should be fine :)
[02:09] <ripps> I hope it is
[02:10] <ripps> i think most all 64 bit for the 939 were dual, but I can't be sure
[02:10] <AlphaCluster> not all but most for desktop were
[02:13] <ripps> actually, I just typed in the serial number into google.
[02:14] <ripps> Looks like it's a amd 3200+
[02:14] <ripps> which is only single core :/
[02:14] <ripps> still better than my current desktop
[02:15] <AlphaCluster> lol yeah
[02:15] <AlphaCluster> i think i played 720p fine on one of those
[02:16] <ripps> maybe I should get nvidia than, so that I can I get the hardware acceleration
[02:17] <AlphaCluster> yeah might be worth it in that case
[02:18] <AlphaCluster> i almost want to say go with a 9800 then lol
[02:18] <AlphaCluster> but i dont remember if taht does vdpau or if its after that series
[02:20] <ripps> http://bleedingedgelinux.blogspot.com/2010/10/nvidias-geforce-gt-430-next-htpc-king.html
[02:20] <ripps> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121397
[02:20] <ripps> this looks good.
[02:20] <AlphaCluster> yep that should be good :)
[02:21] <AlphaCluster> i missed taht cause i thoguht they were all to high of a price
[02:21] <ripps> hopefully nouveou will be more mature by the time wayland comes out
[02:21] <ripps> or nvidia get with it and supports wayland
[02:22] <AlphaCluster> yeah if wayland get popular they will support it
[02:22] <ripps> in an ideal world, I would upgrade to an i-core intel setup with sandybridge in the future. Intel video support has pretty good va-api
[02:24] <AlphaCluster> lol i will report that back to the group
[02:24] <AlphaCluster> just got a cheap gateway for a htpc
[02:24] <AlphaCluster> guna try ubuntu 10.10 and see hwo intel support is
[02:25] <ripps> if you have any computer your not using, feel free to hand them down to me, I'm alway looking to upgrade my setup. Also trying to build my mom an htpc as well
[02:25] <ripps> ;)
[02:25] <AlphaCluster> lol sadly i dont have anything that is useable that i dont use
[02:26] <AlphaCluster> the only retired computer i have around is a Dell Latitude LS with a P3 in it rofl
[05:45] <unrealjeff> hi friends
[05:45] <unrealjeff> MINNESOTA FRIENDS
[06:39] <tonyyarusso> hello
[06:39] <Takyoji> Egad, there's people in here from Minnesota? D:
[07:15] <unrealjeff> hi
[07:15] <unrealjeff> :D
[07:15] <Takyoji> Hello
[07:15] <unrealjeff> hi but brb
[07:16] <Takyoji> Just playing with some malware (in a VirtualBox VM) that my brother's Windows 7 laptop was just infected with; as part of a drive-by download when doing casual web browsing in the most recent version of Google Chrome.
[07:17] <unrealjeff> brb ubuntuites
[07:17] <unrealjeff> wow
[07:32]  * Takyoji wonders why some names in Pidgin in IRC discussions are italicized
[19:14] <Wally____> Hello
[19:15] <Wally____> If anyone has a some intermittent time to help with a ubuntu problem, let me know.
[19:16] <Wally____> Ubuntu 10.04 that won't boot past login screen
[19:17] <tonyyarusso> Wally____: Generally it's best to just describe all of your problem as best you can and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond.  (Also known as "don't ask to ask")
[19:17] <Wally____> I messed up the display drivers and need to reinstall them using a live cd
[19:17] <Wally____> I need help reinstalling the display drivers using a live cd
[19:18] <tonyyarusso> Which video family?  (Intel, ATI, nVidia, etc.)
[19:18] <Wally____> nvidia
[19:19] <Wally____> i am on a linux mint 9 live usb currently
[19:20] <tonyyarusso> Fixing Ubuntu from a Mint environment might be trickier than necessary - do you have an Ubuntu image handy?
[19:20] <Wally____> i willl get one.  be back soon
[19:21] <Wally____> brb
[19:43] <Wally> ok.  Back
[19:46] <Wally> tonyyarusso, did you have a method to install a NVidia Driver via a live usb?
[19:50] <Takyoji> I believe you can get the installer directly from NVidia
[19:50] <Takyoji> Just not as convenient as doing it through the package manager though I believe
[19:51] <Wally> The problem is my ubuntu 10.04 will not boot.  I tried to update the driver and f'd up
[19:51] <Wally> Once it tries to load the login screen it freezes
[19:51] <Wally> when I boot into recovery mode, the display is messed up and I can't see what i am doing
[19:51] <Wally> so i need to load it via a live usb
[19:52] <Wally> to try and save my install. :(
[19:52] <Wally> I have the install downloaded to the download folder on the home/"Username" of the ubuntu install.
[19:52] <Takyoji> Could boot to command line and remove nvidia-current and nvidia-common (which should hopefully remove everything depending on such)
[19:53] <Wally> they are already gone
[19:53] <Wally> I purged them via command line
[20:02] <tonyyarusso> Wally: From a Live environment, you can chroot into the hard disk partitions, and run apt commands and whatnot from there for whatever you need to do, affecting the installed system.
[21:33] <Takyoji> Anyone heard of the MovableType CMS before at all?
[21:33] <Takyoji> just came across it out of curiosity myself
[21:44] <Wally> I need some help with running a script via chroot
[21:47] <Wally> I get  ERROR: missing/broken uname.  Cannot perform platform check.
[21:48] <Wally> while login as chroot
[21:48] <Wally> but when I uname it still shows me as my live usb uname
[23:00] <unrealjeff> hi
[23:00] <Wally______> hi
[23:02] <unrealjeff> your name is long
[23:02] <unrealjeff> is this a free to talk IRC
[23:17] <tonyyarusso> Takyoji: I have.
[23:17] <Wally______> I need to run a NVIDIA install script through chroot but I keep getting errors.
[23:17] <tonyyarusso> I think it's more blogging platform than CMS though, a la WordPress.
[23:18] <Wally______> I am logged in to the other user but when I run the script i get  ERROR: missing/broken uname.  Cannot perform platform check.
[23:18] <tonyyarusso> unrealjeff: within some reasonable limits, yes.
[23:18] <unrealjeff> tonyyarusso: cool
[23:18] <unrealjeff> so what part of Minnesota?
[23:19] <tonyyarusso> Wally______: do a `which uname` - what is the path given and can you run it with the full path?
[23:19] <tonyyarusso> unrealjeff: Twin Cities
[23:20] <Wally______> root@ubuntu:/home/wally/Downloads#
[23:20] <unrealjeff> i live in a suburb of the twin cities
[23:20] <Wally______> root@ubuntu:/home/Downloads# which uname
[23:20] <Wally______> /bin/uname
[23:20] <Wally______> is what I get inreturn of that
[23:21] <Wally______> first i did chroot /media/linux/
[23:21] <Wally______> which was the mount point of my system
[23:22] <Wally______> then i did chroot
[23:22] <Wally______> errr scratch that
[23:22] <Wally______> then i cd to the "Downloads"
[23:22] <Wally______> then sh "NVIDIA-BlahBlah"
[23:23] <Wally______> and I get
[23:23] <Wally______> root@ubuntu:/home/wally/Downloads# sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-260.19.29.run
[23:23] <Wally______> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-260.19.29.run: 735: cannot create /dev/null: Permission denied
[23:23] <Wally______> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-260.19.29.run: 736: cannot create /dev/null: Permission denied
[23:23] <Wally______> ERROR: missing/broken uname.  Cannot perform platform check.
[23:23] <tonyyarusso> whoa, dude
[23:23] <tonyyarusso> !pastebin
[23:23] <Wally______> sorry
[23:23] <tonyyarusso> unrealjeff: actually I'm in a suburb as well - same thing
[23:23] <unrealjeff> AV
[23:23] <tonyyarusso> Wrong side o' the river!
[23:24] <tonyyarusso> Wally______: are you root?
[23:25] <unrealjeff> hhaha
[23:25] <Wally______> root on my live cd? or on the chroot??
[23:25] <tonyyarusso> both, really
[23:29] <Wally______> ok  i gotta reset the live cd root password
[23:33] <Wally______> ok I am