[04:14]  * wrst thinks he has his wires about straight
[04:16]  * wrst has one more reboot
[04:19] <cyberanger> wrst: pull this wire, it looks shiney ;-)
[04:20] <wrst> ha ha trying to get my setup something that looks sane cyberanger
[04:20] <wrst> how are you doing?
[04:22] <cyberanger> I'm doing well, just enjoying the insanity in my setup, something about it appeals to the schizophrenic in me
[04:22] <cyberanger> well, both of them actually
[04:24] <cyberanger> glad your setup is sane ;-)
[04:24] <cyberanger> doing good, just watching some dollhouse (of which that schizophrenic quote was shamelessly borrowed from)
[04:25] <wrst> what type of insanity are you doing cyberanger ?
[04:26] <cyberanger> at the moment openvpn
[04:26]  * cyberanger is overlooking something, and knows it, it shouldn't be harder than installing linux on a toaster
[04:28] <wrst> vpns are something i have never messed with
[04:28] <cyberanger> I have, this is a bit further than before
[04:29] <cyberanger> and I am doing it all config files, no webmin and such
[04:31] <chris4585> cyberanger, I made a reference to linux on a toaster today how strange lol
[04:32] <cyberanger> well, I should have said snowblower then, darn (I was saving that one for later)
[04:33] <chris4585> nah, I'm just saying sometimes I feel really connected to the universe or something
[04:34] <cyberanger> hehe
[04:39] <wrst> cyberanger: i like me some webmin :)
[04:39] <cyberanger> (I still missed my timing for a good snowblower refrence though, http://imagebin.org/129857 )
[04:42] <cyberanger> oh, one that I should use when I blog about diaspora, I forgot about this one ;-) http://xkcd.com/743/
[04:46] <wrst> goodnight everyone
[04:46] <cyberanger> night wrst
[14:51] <Xpistos> morning
[14:51] <Xpistos> wrst
[14:58] <wrst> morning Xpistos i'm still on vacation woot woot!
[15:02] <Xpistos> cool
[15:15] <wrst> yes gotta work tomorrow then off the rest of the week so 1 day work weeks i am all about that!
[15:50] <cyberanger> Xpistos: afaik, there is no hdd limit
[15:50] <cyberanger> at least one you can hit
[15:50] <cyberanger> morning all
[15:58] <Xpistos> cool
[16:07] <cyberanger> Xpistos: that's assuming that this is all standard rig, nothing odd about the mobo, safe odds
[16:08] <cyberanger> my netbook falls the other way, 2GB HDD is solid state, soldered right to the mobo
[16:08] <Xpistos> cyberanger: I needed check to see if I could put a 3 tb drive in my server and it said something about a 2.19 tb limit in the description of the hdd
[16:13] <cyberanger> hrm, what said that? the mobo?
[16:53] <Xpistos> no the drive itself
[17:39] <cyberanger> the 3tb drive said it wass a 2.19tb drive?
[17:56] <Xpistos> no in the description on new egg it said some mobo have a limitation
[17:56] <wrst> xpistos I have never had those limits pan out everything has worked for me
[17:57] <Xpistos> cool
[17:57] <Xpistos> Cause right now I could use a 3tb
[17:57] <Xpistos> swap out the junk there and keep the important stuff (home movies and picts ect) to my 500 gb drive
[17:59] <cyberanger> Xpistos: tread carefully, that drive is big, it maybe the first to pan out
[17:59] <cyberanger> idk, I doubt it, but that msg is enough to rattle my head
[18:00] <wrst> yeah I have just broken the limits by .5 TB
[18:04] <Xpistos> wrst: how big?
[18:06] <wrst> limit was 1TB I went with 1.5
[19:54] <wrst> cyberanger: i'm still using irssi
[20:15] <cyberanger> wrst: sweet
[20:16] <wrst> yes its not as good as quassel in a lot of ways but better in others so i'm sticking with for a while
[20:17] <Worldspice_Will> i've only ever used xchat. i tried pidgin briefly for irc and hated it.
[20:17] <wrst> i am curious what the log will log like after a year
[20:17] <wrst> yeah Worldspice_Will pidgin stinks for irc, its great for other stuff but for irc not so much
[20:18] <Worldspice_Will> i want to implement an ejabberd server here.
[20:19] <wrst> Worldspice_Will: well i have to ask what is that? it sounds cool :)
[20:20] <Worldspice_Will> it's a xmpp server, same protocol that iChat and Google Talk are based on. It supports end to end encryption, message archiving, group chat.
[20:22] <Worldspice_Will> it's really a must for a mobile office. too many companies are still on Yahoo and AIM, completely unsecure and unrealiable.
[20:22] <Worldspice_Will> *insecure.
[20:25] <cyberanger> Worldspice_Will: hating pidgin as an irc client is a natural responce for so many
[20:25] <Worldspice_Will> it's adequate is all  you ever do is chat on one or two channels.
[20:25] <cyberanger> ejabberd isn't bad, I've used some other jabber daemons, not bad
[20:26] <cyberanger> bitlbee is a better option for a client, if your 9/10ths irc and 1/10th IM
[20:26] <cyberanger> and that's what I've used for awhile now
[20:28] <cyberanger> http://www.linuxjournal.com/podcast/linux-journal-insider-february-2011, should be worth the wait
[20:28] <cyberanger> Worldspice_Will: what do you use now, for IRC and IM?
[20:28] <cyberanger> and what do you plan to use
[20:36] <wrst> ahh i see Worldspice_Will thanks :)
[20:39] <Worldspice_Will> i use xchat + empathy on my desktop
[20:40] <Worldspice_Will> gchat and fring on android
[20:42] <cyberanger> Worldspice_Will: do you prefer xchat?
[20:43] <wrst> Worldspice_Will: i used to use quassel but no way to connect to quassel from android and with ssh, screen and irssi i can do that
[20:43] <Worldspice_Will> gtk compatibility plus i've been on Linux for over 10 years, it's all there was when i started.
[20:44] <cyberanger> wrst: and that's the reason I wound up using bitlbee (after some issues with configing it for an alternate port, or it and my ircd griped at each other)
[20:45] <cyberanger> it wasn't a client in the normal since, my favorite client (irssi) was able to be accessed from anything
[20:45] <cyberanger> however at that time I didn't fathom a smartphone being a part of anything (however I could have, my wallet shrunk my foresight)
[20:46] <cyberanger> Worldspice_Will: have you tried irssi, weechat, chatzilla, or any other client
[20:46] <cyberanger> same for IM (like amsn, psi)?
[20:47]  * cyberanger finds it funny that those who've been on linux since day one stick to a gui, and I'm a stones throw short from full time cli myself
[20:49] <wrst> some of us like the "easy" way cyberanger  :)
[20:49] <cyberanger> wrst: says the guy using irssi ;-)
[20:50]  * cyberanger waited for that one, but yeah, I get it, the words job and day come to mind, though not in that order ;-)
[20:50] <Worldspice_Will> i've used chatzilla. had some memory problems with it a while back, but that's when Firefox was a major resource hog.
[20:51] <Worldspice_Will> i'm not afraid of command line apps. i like rtorrent. it has the smallest memory footprint of all the bittorrent clients.
[20:52] <wrst> it all comes down to what works best
[20:53] <cyberanger> wrst: I love rtorrent myself
[20:54] <cyberanger> use it to seed linux distros mainly (while I do believe in copyright reform, I never got around to putting an eye patch on and waiving the jolley roger)
[20:54] <cyberanger> an intresting way to distrubte tv too http://www.pioneerone.tv/
[20:54] <cyberanger> Worldspice_Will: glad your a fan?
[20:55] <cyberanger> hey netritious
[20:55] <cyberanger> Worldspice_Will: glad your a fan! (whoops)
[20:55] <netritious> howdy cyberanger
[20:55] <netritious> howdy locotn :)
[20:56] <cyberanger> Worldspice_Will: what's kept you from setting up ejabberd, or similar jabberd
[20:56] <Worldspice_Will> my coworker is moving out of the office today. after today i'll have my own window office. how many other sysadmins can say that :)
[20:56] <wrst> netritious: howdy
[20:56] <netritious> howdy wrst
[20:57] <Worldspice_Will> cyberanger, i just started here about 3 weeks ago. i'm just getting up to speed.
[20:57]  * cyberanger can, but that's cause I freelance too, and my freelance office was my choice
[20:57] <cyberanger> Worldspice_Will: ah, gotcha, makes sense
[20:58]  * cyberanger wants to make some setup scripts for that, really should too, would help out for swissknife-router
[20:59] <Worldspice_Will> i have some ideas to implement some technologies that will make our office more mobile. jabber chat is just one of them. i have a few goals outlined for the coming year.
[21:00] <cyberanger> jabber is a secure chat server, has a niche I overlooked in swissknife-router, D'Oh (the whole point is to aid in communications for disaster relief, and I overlooked a bloddy chat service, wow I feel dumb atm)
[21:01] <cyberanger> Worldspice_Will: what's some other ideas (if you can say)
[21:01] <cyberanger> ?
[21:04] <cyberanger> netritious: what's going on?
[21:12] <netritious> cyberanger: nothing much....fixing a computer
[21:13] <wrst> i threw about 3 computers out today
[21:13] <netritious> what was wrong with them wrst?
[21:14] <wrst> well had windows 98 stickers on them, removed all i could find useful they were taking up so much space
[21:14] <netritious> ah ancient pc's
[21:14] <wrst> yes very much so
[21:15] <cyberanger> that's not ancient, you took them to a landfill?
[21:15] <Worldspice_Will> cyberanger, i'm kind of in a unique position. all of the applications i develop for internal use can be resold to our business customers. i want to move us into a mobile office, cloud computing environment. there are a lot of different technologies i can implement.
[21:15] <wrst> yes cyberanger
[21:17]  * cyberanger hates the term cloud computing, sees it as just a consumer friendly name for the terminal mainframe model I used before the term was used
[21:17] <wrst> cyberanger: i cna't say i'm overly thrilled with leaving google totally in control of all my data even though i guess i just about have anyway
[21:18] <cyberanger> wrst: cool, mobile offices is a nice way for the red cross, seen them use alot of that methodolgy
[21:18] <cyberanger> wrst: google, microsoft, yahoo, yeah, agreed
[21:19] <wrst> yes especially microsoft and yahoo... yuck!
[21:19] <cyberanger> I've done what I can to diversy, and also keep myself in sole control, without overburdening myself
[21:21] <cyberanger> thus my fandom of VPS's and SSH, so on
[21:22] <cyberanger> but there's a point where a local machine is best
[21:29] <Worldspice_Will> i think cloud computing is great for business, as long as the business owns or is in control of it's own cloud.
[21:31] <Worldspice_Will> what sucks is when you show up to a presentation and you realize that your presentation is on your desktop at home, or your thumb drive won't work in the board room... I've had both happen to me.
[22:38] <Worldspice_Will> anyone else here using linux in a professional capacity?
[22:39] <wrst> Worldspice_Will: i do use it on occasion at work i keep ubuntu installed but i'm a bean counter, so guess not really :)
[22:40] <Worldspice_Will> i've worked with accountants and finance departments for the last 6 years until this job.
[22:45] <cyberanger> Worldspice_Will: yes, I try to push it into my work actually
[22:45] <cyberanger> but considering how far Windows has pushed, it's a pain
[22:46] <cyberanger> I'm working on startup plans that would really push ubuntu far
[22:51] <Worldspice_Will> wrst, are you a CPA?
[22:51] <wrst> studying to get there Worldspice_Will
[22:51] <wrst> need to get the exam taken
[22:52] <Worldspice_Will> do you work for a accountancy firm or ...
[22:52] <wrst> no a company
[22:53] <Worldspice_Will> got it. i have a BBA, considered accountancy, i had higher grades in acct and finance than MIS.
[22:53] <wrst> don't really want to get into working for a firm but want the cpa it cna't hurt to have it
[22:55] <Worldspice_Will> i know an accountant/farmer. he works from January to April as an accountant and is an organic farmer the rest of the year. he owns the only certified organic farm in w. tn.
[23:47] <wrst> thats cool Worldspice_Will