| Fezzler | Does the CD/DVD burner program that comes with Ubuntu burn iso files/images? | 04:27 |
|---|---|---|
| holstein | yup | 04:29 |
| holstein | brasero right? | 04:29 |
| holstein | yup | 04:30 |
| holstein | right when you launch it | 04:30 |
| holstein | burn image | 04:30 |
| holstein | Fezzler: ^^ | 04:34 |
| ailo | I just had a problem with mounting/unmounting iso's with brasero. Made it impossible to burn a cd. Seems that mounting/unmounting iso's and usb sticks have changed a bit... | 04:40 |
| holstein | hmmm | 04:40 |
| holstein | ailo: sounds like a bug | 04:40 |
| ailo | holstein: yes | 04:41 |
| holstein | i have seen brasero not able to eject the burned disc | 04:41 |
| ailo | It happens | 04:41 |
| ailo | Also, not unmounting an iso might cause brasero not to be able to burn a cd | 04:42 |
| ailo | I mean, Ubuntu not unmounting an iso properly, might cause brasero not to be able to burn a cd | 04:43 |
| ailo | Something to do with cache | 04:43 |
| holstein | interesting | 04:43 |
| holstein | ailo: did you find a bug report to add to? | 04:43 |
| ailo | Didn't put my time into into it, thinking perhaps this one was one of the "common" ones. | 04:45 |
| holstein | you on 11.04 already? | 04:45 |
| ailo | Not with this | 04:45 |
| holstein | i havnet spent much time in 10.10 or 11.04 | 04:45 |
| ailo | Perhaps I've spent too little time with 10.04? | 04:46 |
| holstein | hehe | 04:46 |
| ailo | Heck, it's not like Ubuntu is recommending the LTS anymore... | 04:53 |
| ailo | There's the "old style Desktop" with Gnome and KDE, but now we're moving on to new terrain with new hardware (Mobile interfaces). | 05:00 |
| holstein | i really like whats going on with unity | 05:00 |
| holstein | i was on the fence | 05:00 |
| holstein | and im still not sure how it will be for someone transitioning from windows | 05:01 |
| holstein | but it looks great | 05:01 |
| holstein | and that really doesnt need to be the goal of ubuntu... easy to transition from windows | 05:01 |
| holstein | it just kinda happened that way | 05:01 |
| holstein | i think its great that ubuntu will soon just look like ubuntu really | 05:02 |
| ailo | For the first time it seems a Linux based system is doing something innovative, which might even change things on a "mainstream" level. It would be great if it leads to open more open standards, anyway. | 05:07 |
| ailo | ...or we'll be all using Debian soon :) | 05:12 |
| holstein | lol | 05:13 |
| Fezzler | didn't work | 05:28 |
| Fezzler | Just copied the iso file to the CD | 05:28 |
| holstein | you have to choose the 'burn image' option | 05:29 |
| holstein | the one at the bottom | 05:29 |
| Fezzler | ok - dummies guide. #1. Downloaded file is on my desktop | 05:30 |
| holstein | OK | 05:30 |
| holstein | the whatever.iso | 05:30 |
| Fezzler | It is Windows Vista 32-bit Repair Disc.torrent | 05:33 |
| holstein | wheres the .iso? | 05:33 |
| Fezzler | http://neosmart.net/blog/2008/windows-vista-recovery-disc-download/ | 05:34 |
| holstein | you'll need to use something like transmission | 05:34 |
| holstein | to DL the .iso using the .torrent file | 05:34 |
| holstein | assuming its being seeded | 05:34 |
| Fezzler | Download and run µTorrent. | 05:35 |
| Fezzler | ? | 05:35 |
| Fezzler | I have Transmission on my system, will that work instead? | 05:36 |
| ailo | Yes | 05:36 |
| Fezzler | So what to I do, start Transmission? | 05:37 |
| holstein | yup | 05:37 |
| holstein | and add that .torrent you DL'd | 05:37 |
| holstein | answer some questions | 05:37 |
| Fezzler | Hey guys, I'm not that smart with this new social media stuff. Does torrent = stolen? | 05:37 |
| holstein | like where you want it to be DL'd | 05:37 |
| holstein | Fezzler: not necessarily | 05:38 |
| holstein | torrents are just a way to DL things | 05:38 |
| ailo | Just a few basic questions: Are you using Ubuntu now? Is Windows on the same computer? | 05:38 |
| holstein | people use torrents to do illegal things | 05:38 |
| Fezzler | two different PCs next to each other | 05:38 |
| ailo | ok | 05:38 |
| ailo | What's wrong with the Windows PC? | 05:39 |
| * holstein wonders what a windows repair disc is | 05:40 | |
| holstein | you pretty much have the installer disc | 05:41 |
| Fezzler | transmission is working | 05:41 |
| Fezzler | Vista PC C: drive was flakey | 05:42 |
| ailo | Windows PC's usually have the installer software on the harddisk, meaning: you have to start the computer with an option (F2, F10) to get into the reinstall option. | 05:43 |
| holstein | yeah | 05:45 |
| ailo | The F* might be something else for you.. | 05:45 |
| holstein | since vista for sure | 05:45 |
| holstein | even XP | 05:45 |
| ailo | By F* I of course mean something like F1, F2, F3 or something like that | 05:45 |
| holstein | Fezzler: which are you trying to get? | 05:46 |
| holstein | OH 32bit vista... | 05:47 |
| holstein | that one is coming in OK for me | 05:47 |
| holstein | hmm.... | 05:47 |
| holstein | wonder what im DLing ;) | 05:47 |
| ailo | It's hard to believe somethings as good as Ubuntu are not stolen :) | 05:49 |
| holstein | AH | 05:50 |
| holstein | im reading | 05:50 |
| holstein | you cant install win7 or vista with these | 05:51 |
| holstein | they are actually repair discs | 05:51 |
| holstein | handy | 05:51 |
| ailo | There's an option to create them on MS website, but when it comes to outside of MS, who knows what it does? http://windows.microsoft.com/en-XM/windows7/Create-a-system-repair-disc | 05:54 |
| holstein | Fezzler: how is it going? | 05:59 |
| holstein | looks like im about 3 minutes from having it | 06:00 |
| Fezzler | ISO is downloaded | 06:00 |
| holstein | AH | 06:00 |
| holstein | there you go :) | 06:00 |
| Fezzler | So now I start CD/DVD Creator? | 06:01 |
| holstein | brasero | 06:01 |
| Fezzler | My first torrent! | 06:01 |
| holstein | good for you | 06:01 |
| holstein | looks like a nice and legal one too | 06:01 |
| Fezzler | It down loaded a second one I must have tried to get once | 06:01 |
| Fezzler | A book | 06:01 |
| Fezzler | Home Recording for Musicians for Dummies :) | 06:02 |
| holstein | nice | 06:02 |
| holstein | i just got a nice pdf for registering at linuxtracker.org earlier | 06:02 |
| Fezzler | I own the print book too | 06:02 |
| Fezzler | For beginners, the Dummy guitar and recording books are quite good | 06:03 |
| holstein | yup | 06:03 |
| holstein | i just hung out at the studio and asked questions :) | 06:04 |
| Fezzler | Ok #2 - Start CD/DVD Creators | 06:05 |
| Fezzler | Now what | 06:05 |
| holstein | right | 06:05 |
| holstein | click on the last option there | 06:05 |
| Fezzler | When I open the program | 06:06 |
| holstein | 'burn image' | 06:06 |
| holstein | open brasero | 06:06 |
| ailo | When you put the CD in and get the option to open CD/DVD creator, just disregard it. Close everything down and go to "Applications > Sound & Video > Brasero Disc Burner" | 06:08 |
| holstein | im really liking the transmission web interface | 06:11 |
| Fezzler | brasero magic! I burned my first ISO | 06:11 |
| ailo | me too, tried it on my own server. Nice to be able to do stuff from away from home | 06:11 |
| holstein | ailo: did you run in on something without X ? | 06:12 |
| holstein | im running it on a xubuntu install right now | 06:12 |
| ailo | yes, debian server, apache | 06:12 |
| ailo | no gnome | 06:12 |
| holstein | but i would like to run it on my server box soon | 06:12 |
| Fezzler | Hey dudes, I really messed up my normally smooth Ubuntu PC too. (Too much time on hand during vacation) | 06:12 |
| holstein | Fezzler: :/ | 06:13 |
| holstein | how so? | 06:13 |
| Fezzler | ok | 06:13 |
| holstein | did you drop it in the hot tub? | 06:13 |
| Fezzler | Not sure what : / means | 06:13 |
| Fezzler | Does that mean you ar talking too much? | 06:13 |
| holstein | :) | 06:13 |
| holstein | is happy | 06:13 |
| holstein | :/ is kinda sad | 06:13 |
| holstein | for you | 06:14 |
| Fezzler | It looked like : / Zip it | 06:14 |
| holstein | borking your box | 06:14 |
| holstein | prolly should be :( | 06:14 |
| holstein | anyways, that sux that you've messed it up somehow | 06:14 |
| Fezzler | Well, ever since upgrade to Lucid my You Tube Videos only run at 240dpi | 06:14 |
| Fezzler | And my audio was not working. | 06:15 |
| holstein | so your audio is cool now? | 06:15 |
| Fezzler | So I installed some pulse audio stuff from Synaptic and and stuff | 06:15 |
| Fezzler | I got my Alsa audio back but video still 240dpi | 06:15 |
| ailo | Audo not working, do you have a pci audio card or built-in? | 06:16 |
| holstein | used to be, you could select the quality in youtube | 06:16 |
| Fezzler | But the my jackd set up (I have RT kernel) was not working. | 06:16 |
| holstein | but, i would look into the graphics driver | 06:16 |
| Fezzler | So I figured I downloaded so much crap I'd start from zero. | 06:16 |
| holstein | sometimes* you can have a bad time with graphics driver | 06:16 |
| holstein | and the RT kernel | 06:16 |
| Fezzler | I deleted via Synaptic ANYTHING that references Pulse audio or Jackd | 06:16 |
| holstein | if this is not a production audio box | 06:17 |
| holstein | you might want to try 10.10 | 06:17 |
| Fezzler | When I rebooted, my desktop was gone and my user login just cycled | 06:17 |
| holstein | or wait for 11.04 | 06:17 |
| Fezzler | So, I reinstalled my desktop | 06:17 |
| holstein | Fezzler: you wiped it | 06:17 |
| holstein | and reinstalled what? | 06:17 |
| holstein | 10.04? | 06:17 |
| holstein | ubuntu studio? | 06:17 |
| Fezzler | But now my OS is VERY sluggish and I still have all the same problem I started with | 06:17 |
| ailo | Fezzler: On Ubuntu you'll propably be happiest with Pulseaudio, if it works. | 06:18 |
| holstein | yeah, pulse is the way to go | 06:18 |
| holstein | unless something is broken | 06:18 |
| holstein | its kinda what everything 'expects' | 06:18 |
| Fezzler | By sluggish I mean click on file folders, long delay, my browsers page switching delays | 06:18 |
| holstein | Fezzler: i would run a generic kernel | 06:18 |
| holstein | try sorting out the graphics driver | 06:19 |
| holstein | nvidia? | 06:19 |
| holstein | maybe you can try the proprietary drivers | 06:19 |
| holstein | get everything rockin and rollin | 06:19 |
| Fezzler | But holstein man, you were the one who encouraged me to install RT, zap pulse and we did some magic that got me really great jackd performance with Ardour | 06:19 |
| holstein | then, move on to a different kernel if you need | 06:19 |
| ailo | sluggish could be anything. For me it is almost always because of flashplayer. | 06:19 |
| holstein | Fezzler: i didnt say 'zap pulse' | 06:19 |
| Fezzler | nvidia | 06:20 |
| Fezzler | holstein: Ha | 06:20 |
| Fezzler | Sorry. | 06:20 |
| ailo | Flashplayer seems to cache stuff on ram... | 06:20 |
| Fezzler | You are a good man! | 06:20 |
| holstein | :) | 06:20 |
| Fezzler | So what do I do | 06:20 |
| holstein | i would look into the graphics driver | 06:20 |
| Fezzler | help me work some command line magic and whip this beast back into shape | 06:20 |
| holstein | with a gerneric kernel running | 06:20 |
| holstein | get that solid | 06:21 |
| holstein | and go from there | 06:21 |
| holstein | you probably dont need an RT kernel | 06:21 |
| holstein | and the gerneric kernel is getting better all the time | 06:21 |
| Fezzler | I have the driver for my board but for some reason (the RT kernal) it will not install | 06:21 |
| holstein | thats plausible | 06:21 |
| holstein | Fezzler: what are you planning on doing with JACK ? | 06:22 |
| holstein | realtime effects and playing software synths is really what *requires* lower latency | 06:22 |
| holstein | i usually suggest trying the generic one | 06:23 |
| Fezzler | NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.19-pkg1.run | 06:23 |
| holstein | then moving up | 06:23 |
| Fezzler | That is the driver that worked best with my PC until lucid | 06:23 |
| holstein | Fezzler: you should get a prompt | 06:23 |
| holstein | go to... | 06:23 |
| Fezzler | Holstein. All I want to do is record some midi and guitar with Ardour | 06:24 |
| holstein | system - administration- additional drivers | 06:24 |
| holstein | and see if the proprietary nvidia is listed there | 06:24 |
| holstein | Fezzler: i dont think you *need* an RT kernel | 06:24 |
| Fezzler | I don't care if it is Pulse, Alsa, OGG, Jackd, Core whatever. As long as I can track and burn MP3 via LAME | 06:24 |
| holstein | *export mp3? | 06:25 |
| Fezzler | I listen to too many people. Bunch of jackd fan boys told me the RT is best for low latency I think | 06:25 |
| ailo | Fezzler: please try the nvidia stuff included in Ubuntu. They usually work better in my experience. | 06:25 |
| holstein | you wouldnt want to burn mp3's necessarily | 06:25 |
| Fezzler | Render MP3 :) | 06:25 |
| holstein | AH | 06:25 |
| holstein | Fezzler: and that is still true | 06:26 |
| holstein | but if you dont need the crazy low latency | 06:26 |
| holstein | the generic kernel is do-able | 06:26 |
| holstein | and more friendly for your needs all around i bet | 06:26 |
| Fezzler | I have the nvidia-173 on my system | 06:26 |
| holstein | Fezzler: its installed already? | 06:27 |
| Fezzler | It works but I can't seem to get compiz stuff to work now either. I had it with 173 but screwed that up too | 06:27 |
| ailo | Fezzler: just go with the "recommeded" option when you get the "additional drivers option". | 06:27 |
| Fezzler | :) Maybe I should have linux - I can never leave it alone! | 06:27 |
| holstein | nah, you gotta mess with it | 06:27 |
| ailo | What nvidia card do you have? | 06:27 |
| holstein | thats how you learn :) | 06:27 |
| Fezzler | So should I bother to "back out" the RT kernel? | 06:28 |
| Fezzler | I mean, is it hurting me? And why is my browser, apps and folder switching getting "stuck" or delayed? | 06:28 |
| Fezzler | ailo>> GeoForce FX 5500 APG | 06:29 |
| ailo | What kind of system do you have? P4? | 06:29 |
| Fezzler | ailo>> or AGP - whatever that old graphics slot was called | 06:29 |
| ailo | How much ram? | 06:29 |
| Fezzler | 768? | 06:30 |
| Fezzler | Oh, on the GeoForce | 06:30 |
| Fezzler | 128 | 06:30 |
| ailo | No, on the system itself. Is it Pentium 4, Celeron, AMD... what type | 06:31 |
| ailo | How much RAM memory do you have? | 06:31 |
| ailo | If you have 512MB of RAM or less, you might have performance problems | 06:32 |
| Fezzler | 768 on my "Frankenstein", let-learn-what-this-linux-is-all-about, Goodwill, AMD Athlon K6-266 | 06:32 |
| Fezzler | And I have to tell you, even Lucid is fast on this old hack | 06:32 |
| Fezzler | I got 768 ram | 06:33 |
| holstein | you can just boot the generic kernel | 06:33 |
| ailo | The K6 is an old one. | 06:33 |
| holstein | you didnt uninstall it i bet | 06:33 |
| Fezzler | Holstein - doesn't Ardour require Jackd? | 06:34 |
| holstein | maybe not | 06:34 |
| holstein | but you wouldnt want to use it without it | 06:34 |
| ailo | But the graphic card should do | 06:34 |
| holstein | i have several different kernels on my EEE | 06:34 |
| holstein | and i just choose at boot which i want | 06:35 |
| Fezzler | yea, the graphics card I bet helps this old dog. I bet an old soundblaster card would too. Get as much off the CPU as possib;le | 06:35 |
| holstein | Fezzler: OH | 06:35 |
| holstein | i took a picture the other day | 06:35 |
| holstein | of a stack of SB cards here at a goodwill | 06:35 |
| Fezzler | OH - Ohio? | 06:35 |
| Fezzler | Great song | 06:35 |
| ailo | Perhaps the CPU is the problem? But you say you had good results before? | 06:36 |
| Fezzler | Goodwill in Charlotte? | 06:36 |
| Fezzler | ComputerWorks? | 06:36 |
| holstein | the one here actuall | 06:36 |
| holstein | y | 06:36 |
| holstein | but i saw some there too | 06:36 |
| Fezzler | Last time I went there they had none and I hear Ubutunu does well with sound blasters | 06:36 |
| holstein | i guess | 06:36 |
| holstein | if your on an internal card | 06:37 |
| Fezzler | Great results | 06:37 |
| holstein | id say, boot the gerneric kernel | 06:37 |
| holstein | hunker down | 06:37 |
| holstein | and hope for the best | 06:37 |
| Fezzler | I am so glad I learned Ubuntu - when my Vista HD was dying a little Samba and I off-loaded all my iTunes and I'm looking forward to restoring them | 06:38 |
| ailo | I've ran different low-latency linux based systems on Pentium 3 and early AMD sempron with good results. Haven't bothered with graphics though. | 06:38 |
| Fezzler | So what is the deal with only getting 240dpi in You Tube? | 06:38 |
| Fezzler | I mean, I get 340, 720 but then the audio and video are out of sync. All worked in Gutsy, Hardy, Intrepid, Jaunty, K? | 06:39 |
| ailo | Fezzler: CPU, most propably, since graphic cards don't seem to do much good with flashplayer | 06:39 |
| ailo | At least on Linux | 06:40 |
| holstein | yeah, i see stuff like that with my VIA chip | 06:40 |
| holstein | and the EEE too if its bogged down too much | 06:40 |
| ailo | html5 is an option, though. Don't know what that will do for you. Try www.youtube.com/html5 | 06:40 |
| holstein | so far, its been an improvement for me | 06:41 |
| Fezzler | holstein>> do you use Ardour and Jackd? What do you track with? | 06:42 |
| ailo | Fezzler: Interesting that it used to work for you, but not now. Can't get good performance myself on Geforce3 | 06:42 |
| holstein | Fezzler: you mean interface? | 06:43 |
| Fezzler | Should I do a fresh install of just the Audio portion of UbuntuStudio? | 06:43 |
| Fezzler | NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.19-pkg1.run <- ran best with this | 06:43 |
| ailo | Hope I'm not misunderstanding, but the audio porion won't have any effect on Youtube or any other flashplayer type of thing. | 06:44 |
| holstein | you could try http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=60483 | 06:44 |
| holstein | something more light-weight than gnome | 06:45 |
| ailo | Fezzler: Do you find better performancew with the NVIDIA-Linux... driver than the one included in the distro? | 06:45 |
| Fezzler | I did | 06:45 |
| Fezzler | and compiz worked without elaborate edits to config settings and files I can never remember | 06:46 |
| ailo | Good to know. I should try it myself! | 06:46 |
| Fezzler | No compiz now :/ | 06:46 |
| holstein | lol | 06:46 |
| holstein | compiz on a K6 | 06:46 |
| holstein | i had one of those, and i was glad to just see a desktop | 06:46 |
| holstein | after a couple minutes | 06:46 |
| ailo | Considering the amount of data processed by those processors, one wonders why we need these new one's.. | 06:48 |
| holstein | true | 06:49 |
| ailo | A lot of dead calculation | 06:49 |
| holstein | i do alright on my EEE | 06:49 |
| holstein | almost always plenty for what i need | 06:49 |
| ailo | Can't get low latency on mine | 06:49 |
| ailo | Otherwise I'd consider it for live use | 06:49 |
| holstein | the EEE? | 06:50 |
| ailo | Yes | 06:50 |
| holstein | i dont think i can get much under 20 | 06:50 |
| ailo | That seems to be the same for me | 06:50 |
| ailo | I think I need 10 ms. Need to do tests to make sure | 06:51 |
| Fezzler | any idea how to trouble shoot my huge delay in folder activity and browser and app switching? | 06:51 |
| Fezzler | It all worked before | 06:51 |
| ailo | Nautilus? | 06:51 |
| Fezzler | holstein>> yea, what do you record with? Which DAW? Jackd? | 06:52 |
| Fezzler | Worked with Lucid before I zapped my desktop and had to reinstall it | 06:53 |
| Fezzler | remember, I went to Synapic and deleted any app or file that mentioned pulse or jacks | 06:53 |
| Fezzler | Ubuntu no like that! | 06:53 |
| ailo | With the AMD K6 I would either try to hold on to old versions of a distro or try some really light weight distro. Just fooling around with Lubuntu and its' file-manager was an eye-opener | 06:53 |
| Fezzler | too many distros for one lifetime | 06:54 |
| holstein | i use ardour and JACK | 06:54 |
| ailo | I also made my own file-manager with the audio program called "Pure Data". Nautilus could not compare in speed. | 06:54 |
| holstein | ailo: nice :) | 06:55 |
| holstein | PD is one of those things i hope i have time to learn someday | 06:55 |
| ailo | Once you get hooked ;) | 06:55 |
| Fezzler | So, pen in hand, next time I go to Goodwill looking for nice Ubuntu upgrade PC, what specs | 06:56 |
| Fezzler | Remember, this is goodwill? | 06:56 |
| holstein | i got a nice P4 | 06:56 |
| holstein | 2.2 or so | 06:56 |
| holstein | for $10 | 06:56 |
| holstein | i had a gig or ram and a hard drive here already | 06:56 |
| holstein | gotta be careful with the graphics though | 06:56 |
| holstein | you just never know | 06:56 |
| holstein | ive taken live CD's in that goodwill before | 06:57 |
| ailo | I'd say that is safe too... 512MB minimum, 3GB for a newer AMD | 06:57 |
| holstein | they dont care | 06:57 |
| holstein | if you go for the "as-is" ones | 06:57 |
| Fezzler | They also have prices too high | 06:57 |
| ailo | I got a PC for around 200$, AMD X2, 3 GB RAM, exluding the hard drive though. Propably cheaper now. | 06:58 |
| Fezzler | What they charge for memory and refurbished PC is a joke | 06:58 |
| holstein | yeah, you have to refurbish it | 06:58 |
| Fezzler | taking advantage of people if you ask me | 06:58 |
| holstein | as long as they keep that cheap pile on the other shelf, i dont care | 06:59 |
| ailo | Old hardware seems to be more expensive by the byte | 06:59 |
| holstein | they gotta pay the techs i suppose | 06:59 |
| holstein | ailo: i agree with that | 06:59 |
| holstein | if you can come up with 300 bucks | 06:59 |
| holstein | you can get a lot of computer | 06:59 |
| Fezzler | and now they throw out all the good real old junk like tandy and commodore, etc | 06:59 |
| Fezzler | shame | 06:59 |
| ailo | Still got an Atari, modded, 1024/2048, but what the hell should I do with that other than sell it? | 07:00 |
| Fezzler | well - one more beer for me then bed | 07:01 |
| ailo | Fezzler: If we wait long enough, it won't be worth the dust it wieghs | 07:01 |
| Fezzler | downloading 108 updates for Vista Factory recovery and it failed the first time | 07:02 |
| Fezzler | worth is relative | 07:02 |
| Fezzler | see ya gents | 07:03 |
| Fezzler | gotto run | 07:03 |
| ailo | Fezzler: Always! | 07:03 |
| Fezzler | holstein>> I may hit ComputerWorks tomorrow | 07:03 |
| Fezzler | thanks ailo | 07:03 |
| holstein | i go everytime im in charlotte | 07:03 |
| holstein | and i go to the one here every thursday | 07:03 |
| Fezzler | fun stuff | 07:04 |
| holstein | yup | 07:04 |
| holstein | alrght... bedtime | 07:04 |
| holstein | GN | 07:04 |
| Fezzler | www.club100.org | 07:05 |
| Fezzler | one of my other useless hobbies | 07:05 |
| Fezzler | g nite | 07:05 |
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