[04:27] Does the CD/DVD burner program that comes with Ubuntu burn iso files/images? [04:29] yup [04:29] brasero right? [04:30] yup [04:30] right when you launch it [04:30] burn image [04:34] Fezzler: ^^ [04:40] I just had a problem with mounting/unmounting iso's with brasero. Made it impossible to burn a cd. Seems that mounting/unmounting iso's and usb sticks have changed a bit... [04:40] hmmm [04:40] ailo: sounds like a bug [04:41] holstein: yes [04:41] i have seen brasero not able to eject the burned disc [04:41] It happens [04:42] Also, not unmounting an iso might cause brasero not to be able to burn a cd [04:43] I mean, Ubuntu not unmounting an iso properly, might cause brasero not to be able to burn a cd [04:43] Something to do with cache [04:43] interesting [04:43] ailo: did you find a bug report to add to? [04:45] Didn't put my time into into it, thinking perhaps this one was one of the "common" ones. [04:45] you on 11.04 already? [04:45] Not with this [04:45] i havnet spent much time in 10.10 or 11.04 [04:46] Perhaps I've spent too little time with 10.04? [04:46] hehe [04:53] Heck, it's not like Ubuntu is recommending the LTS anymore... [05:00] There's the "old style Desktop" with Gnome and KDE, but now we're moving on to new terrain with new hardware (Mobile interfaces). [05:00] i really like whats going on with unity [05:00] i was on the fence [05:01] and im still not sure how it will be for someone transitioning from windows [05:01] but it looks great [05:01] and that really doesnt need to be the goal of ubuntu... easy to transition from windows [05:01] it just kinda happened that way [05:02] i think its great that ubuntu will soon just look like ubuntu really [05:07] For the first time it seems a Linux based system is doing something innovative, which might even change things on a "mainstream" level. It would be great if it leads to open more open standards, anyway. [05:12] ...or we'll be all using Debian soon :) [05:13] lol [05:28] didn't work [05:28] Just copied the iso file to the CD [05:29] you have to choose the 'burn image' option [05:29] the one at the bottom [05:30] ok - dummies guide. #1. Downloaded file is on my desktop [05:30] OK [05:30] the whatever.iso [05:33] It is Windows Vista 32-bit Repair Disc.torrent [05:33] wheres the .iso? [05:34] http://neosmart.net/blog/2008/windows-vista-recovery-disc-download/ [05:34] you'll need to use something like transmission [05:34] to DL the .iso using the .torrent file [05:34] assuming its being seeded [05:35] Download and run µTorrent. [05:35] ? [05:36] I have Transmission on my system, will that work instead? [05:36] Yes [05:37] So what to I do, start Transmission? [05:37] yup [05:37] and add that .torrent you DL'd [05:37] answer some questions [05:37] Hey guys, I'm not that smart with this new social media stuff. Does torrent = stolen? [05:37] like where you want it to be DL'd [05:38] Fezzler: not necessarily [05:38] torrents are just a way to DL things [05:38] Just a few basic questions: Are you using Ubuntu now? Is Windows on the same computer? [05:38] people use torrents to do illegal things [05:38] two different PCs next to each other [05:38] ok [05:39] What's wrong with the Windows PC? [05:40] * holstein wonders what a windows repair disc is [05:41] you pretty much have the installer disc [05:41] transmission is working [05:42] Vista PC C: drive was flakey [05:43] Windows PC's usually have the installer software on the harddisk, meaning: you have to start the computer with an option (F2, F10) to get into the reinstall option. [05:45] yeah [05:45] The F* might be something else for you.. [05:45] since vista for sure [05:45] even XP [05:45] By F* I of course mean something like F1, F2, F3 or something like that [05:46] Fezzler: which are you trying to get? [05:47] OH 32bit vista... [05:47] that one is coming in OK for me [05:47] hmm.... [05:47] wonder what im DLing ;) [05:49] It's hard to believe somethings as good as Ubuntu are not stolen :) [05:50] AH [05:50] im reading [05:51] you cant install win7 or vista with these [05:51] they are actually repair discs [05:51] handy [05:54] There's an option to create them on MS website, but when it comes to outside of MS, who knows what it does? http://windows.microsoft.com/en-XM/windows7/Create-a-system-repair-disc [05:59] Fezzler: how is it going? [06:00] looks like im about 3 minutes from having it [06:00] ISO is downloaded [06:00] AH [06:00] there you go :) [06:01] So now I start CD/DVD Creator? [06:01] brasero [06:01] My first torrent! [06:01] good for you [06:01] looks like a nice and legal one too [06:01] It down loaded a second one I must have tried to get once [06:01] A book [06:02] Home Recording for Musicians for Dummies :) [06:02] nice [06:02] i just got a nice pdf for registering at linuxtracker.org earlier [06:02] I own the print book too [06:03] For beginners, the Dummy guitar and recording books are quite good [06:03] yup [06:04] i just hung out at the studio and asked questions :) [06:05] Ok #2 - Start CD/DVD Creators [06:05] Now what [06:05] right [06:05] click on the last option there [06:06] When I open the program [06:06] 'burn image' [06:06] open brasero [06:08] When you put the CD in and get the option to open CD/DVD creator, just disregard it. Close everything down and go to "Applications > Sound & Video > Brasero Disc Burner" [06:11] im really liking the transmission web interface [06:11] brasero magic! I burned my first ISO [06:11] me too, tried it on my own server. Nice to be able to do stuff from away from home [06:12] ailo: did you run in on something without X ? [06:12] im running it on a xubuntu install right now [06:12] yes, debian server, apache [06:12] no gnome [06:12] but i would like to run it on my server box soon [06:12] Hey dudes, I really messed up my normally smooth Ubuntu PC too. (Too much time on hand during vacation) [06:13] Fezzler: :/ [06:13] how so? [06:13] ok [06:13] did you drop it in the hot tub? [06:13] Not sure what : / means [06:13] Does that mean you ar talking too much? [06:13] :) [06:13] is happy [06:13] :/ is kinda sad [06:14] for you [06:14] It looked like : / Zip it [06:14] borking your box [06:14] prolly should be :( [06:14] anyways, that sux that you've messed it up somehow [06:14] Well, ever since upgrade to Lucid my You Tube Videos only run at 240dpi [06:15] And my audio was not working. [06:15] so your audio is cool now? [06:15] So I installed some pulse audio stuff from Synaptic and and stuff [06:15] I got my Alsa audio back but video still 240dpi [06:16] Audo not working, do you have a pci audio card or built-in? [06:16] used to be, you could select the quality in youtube [06:16] But the my jackd set up (I have RT kernel) was not working. [06:16] but, i would look into the graphics driver [06:16] So I figured I downloaded so much crap I'd start from zero. [06:16] sometimes* you can have a bad time with graphics driver [06:16] and the RT kernel [06:16] I deleted via Synaptic ANYTHING that references Pulse audio or Jackd [06:17] if this is not a production audio box [06:17] you might want to try 10.10 [06:17] When I rebooted, my desktop was gone and my user login just cycled [06:17] or wait for 11.04 [06:17] So, I reinstalled my desktop [06:17] Fezzler: you wiped it [06:17] and reinstalled what? [06:17] 10.04? [06:17] ubuntu studio? [06:17] But now my OS is VERY sluggish and I still have all the same problem I started with [06:18] Fezzler: On Ubuntu you'll propably be happiest with Pulseaudio, if it works. [06:18] yeah, pulse is the way to go [06:18] unless something is broken [06:18] its kinda what everything 'expects' [06:18] By sluggish I mean click on file folders, long delay, my browsers page switching delays [06:18] Fezzler: i would run a generic kernel [06:19] try sorting out the graphics driver [06:19] nvidia? [06:19] maybe you can try the proprietary drivers [06:19] get everything rockin and rollin [06:19] But holstein man, you were the one who encouraged me to install RT, zap pulse and we did some magic that got me really great jackd performance with Ardour [06:19] then, move on to a different kernel if you need [06:19] sluggish could be anything. For me it is almost always because of flashplayer. [06:19] Fezzler: i didnt say 'zap pulse' [06:20] nvidia [06:20] holstein: Ha [06:20] Sorry. [06:20] Flashplayer seems to cache stuff on ram... [06:20] You are a good man! [06:20] :) [06:20] So what do I do [06:20] i would look into the graphics driver [06:20] help me work some command line magic and whip this beast back into shape [06:20] with a gerneric kernel running [06:21] get that solid [06:21] and go from there [06:21] you probably dont need an RT kernel [06:21] and the gerneric kernel is getting better all the time [06:21] I have the driver for my board but for some reason (the RT kernal) it will not install [06:21] thats plausible [06:22] Fezzler: what are you planning on doing with JACK ? [06:22] realtime effects and playing software synths is really what *requires* lower latency [06:23] i usually suggest trying the generic one [06:23] NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.19-pkg1.run [06:23] then moving up [06:23] That is the driver that worked best with my PC until lucid [06:23] Fezzler: you should get a prompt [06:23] go to... [06:24] Holstein. All I want to do is record some midi and guitar with Ardour [06:24] system - administration- additional drivers [06:24] and see if the proprietary nvidia is listed there [06:24] Fezzler: i dont think you *need* an RT kernel [06:24] I don't care if it is Pulse, Alsa, OGG, Jackd, Core whatever. As long as I can track and burn MP3 via LAME [06:25] *export mp3? [06:25] I listen to too many people. Bunch of jackd fan boys told me the RT is best for low latency I think [06:25] Fezzler: please try the nvidia stuff included in Ubuntu. They usually work better in my experience. [06:25] you wouldnt want to burn mp3's necessarily [06:25] Render MP3 :) [06:25] AH [06:26] Fezzler: and that is still true [06:26] but if you dont need the crazy low latency [06:26] the generic kernel is do-able [06:26] and more friendly for your needs all around i bet [06:26] I have the nvidia-173 on my system [06:27] Fezzler: its installed already? [06:27] It works but I can't seem to get compiz stuff to work now either. I had it with 173 but screwed that up too [06:27] Fezzler: just go with the "recommeded" option when you get the "additional drivers option". [06:27] :) Maybe I should have linux - I can never leave it alone! [06:27] nah, you gotta mess with it [06:27] What nvidia card do you have? [06:27] thats how you learn :) [06:28] So should I bother to "back out" the RT kernel? [06:28] I mean, is it hurting me? And why is my browser, apps and folder switching getting "stuck" or delayed? [06:29] ailo>> GeoForce FX 5500 APG [06:29] What kind of system do you have? P4? [06:29] ailo>> or AGP - whatever that old graphics slot was called [06:29] How much ram? [06:30] 768? [06:30] Oh, on the GeoForce [06:30] 128 [06:31] No, on the system itself. Is it Pentium 4, Celeron, AMD... what type [06:31] How much RAM memory do you have? [06:32] If you have 512MB of RAM or less, you might have performance problems [06:32] 768 on my "Frankenstein", let-learn-what-this-linux-is-all-about, Goodwill, AMD Athlon K6-266 [06:32] And I have to tell you, even Lucid is fast on this old hack [06:33] I got 768 ram [06:33] you can just boot the generic kernel [06:33] The K6 is an old one. [06:33] you didnt uninstall it i bet [06:34] Holstein - doesn't Ardour require Jackd? [06:34] maybe not [06:34] but you wouldnt want to use it without it [06:34] But the graphic card should do [06:34] i have several different kernels on my EEE [06:35] and i just choose at boot which i want [06:35] yea, the graphics card I bet helps this old dog. I bet an old soundblaster card would too. Get as much off the CPU as possib;le [06:35] Fezzler: OH [06:35] i took a picture the other day [06:35] of a stack of SB cards here at a goodwill [06:35] OH - Ohio? [06:35] Great song [06:36] Perhaps the CPU is the problem? But you say you had good results before? [06:36] Goodwill in Charlotte? [06:36] ComputerWorks? [06:36] the one here actuall [06:36] y [06:36] but i saw some there too [06:36] Last time I went there they had none and I hear Ubutunu does well with sound blasters [06:36] i guess [06:37] if your on an internal card [06:37] Great results [06:37] id say, boot the gerneric kernel [06:37] hunker down [06:37] and hope for the best [06:38] I am so glad I learned Ubuntu - when my Vista HD was dying a little Samba and I off-loaded all my iTunes and I'm looking forward to restoring them [06:38] I've ran different low-latency linux based systems on Pentium 3 and early AMD sempron with good results. Haven't bothered with graphics though. [06:38] So what is the deal with only getting 240dpi in You Tube? [06:39] I mean, I get 340, 720 but then the audio and video are out of sync. All worked in Gutsy, Hardy, Intrepid, Jaunty, K? [06:39] Fezzler: CPU, most propably, since graphic cards don't seem to do much good with flashplayer [06:40] At least on Linux [06:40] yeah, i see stuff like that with my VIA chip [06:40] and the EEE too if its bogged down too much [06:40] html5 is an option, though. Don't know what that will do for you. Try www.youtube.com/html5 [06:41] so far, its been an improvement for me [06:42] holstein>> do you use Ardour and Jackd? What do you track with? [06:42] Fezzler: Interesting that it used to work for you, but not now. Can't get good performance myself on Geforce3 [06:43] Fezzler: you mean interface? [06:43] Should I do a fresh install of just the Audio portion of UbuntuStudio? [06:43] NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.19-pkg1.run <- ran best with this [06:44] Hope I'm not misunderstanding, but the audio porion won't have any effect on Youtube or any other flashplayer type of thing. [06:44] you could try http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=60483 [06:45] something more light-weight than gnome [06:45] Fezzler: Do you find better performancew with the NVIDIA-Linux... driver than the one included in the distro? [06:45] I did [06:46] and compiz worked without elaborate edits to config settings and files I can never remember [06:46] Good to know. I should try it myself! [06:46] No compiz now :/ [06:46] lol [06:46] compiz on a K6 [06:46] i had one of those, and i was glad to just see a desktop [06:46] after a couple minutes [06:48] Considering the amount of data processed by those processors, one wonders why we need these new one's.. [06:49] true [06:49] A lot of dead calculation [06:49] i do alright on my EEE [06:49] almost always plenty for what i need [06:49] Can't get low latency on mine [06:49] Otherwise I'd consider it for live use [06:50] the EEE? [06:50] Yes [06:50] i dont think i can get much under 20 [06:50] That seems to be the same for me [06:51] I think I need 10 ms. Need to do tests to make sure [06:51] any idea how to trouble shoot my huge delay in folder activity and browser and app switching? [06:51] It all worked before [06:51] Nautilus? [06:52] holstein>> yea, what do you record with? Which DAW? Jackd? [06:53] Worked with Lucid before I zapped my desktop and had to reinstall it [06:53] remember, I went to Synapic and deleted any app or file that mentioned pulse or jacks [06:53] Ubuntu no like that! [06:53] With the AMD K6 I would either try to hold on to old versions of a distro or try some really light weight distro. Just fooling around with Lubuntu and its' file-manager was an eye-opener [06:54] too many distros for one lifetime [06:54] i use ardour and JACK [06:54] I also made my own file-manager with the audio program called "Pure Data". Nautilus could not compare in speed. [06:55] ailo: nice :) [06:55] PD is one of those things i hope i have time to learn someday [06:55] Once you get hooked ;) [06:56] So, pen in hand, next time I go to Goodwill looking for nice Ubuntu upgrade PC, what specs [06:56] Remember, this is goodwill? [06:56] i got a nice P4 [06:56] 2.2 or so [06:56] for $10 [06:56] i had a gig or ram and a hard drive here already [06:56] gotta be careful with the graphics though [06:56] you just never know [06:57] ive taken live CD's in that goodwill before [06:57] I'd say that is safe too... 512MB minimum, 3GB for a newer AMD [06:57] they dont care [06:57] if you go for the "as-is" ones [06:57] They also have prices too high [06:58] I got a PC for around 200$, AMD X2, 3 GB RAM, exluding the hard drive though. Propably cheaper now. [06:58] What they charge for memory and refurbished PC is a joke [06:58] yeah, you have to refurbish it [06:58] taking advantage of people if you ask me [06:59] as long as they keep that cheap pile on the other shelf, i dont care [06:59] Old hardware seems to be more expensive by the byte [06:59] they gotta pay the techs i suppose [06:59] ailo: i agree with that [06:59] if you can come up with 300 bucks [06:59] you can get a lot of computer [06:59] and now they throw out all the good real old junk like tandy and commodore, etc [06:59] shame [07:00] Still got an Atari, modded, 1024/2048, but what the hell should I do with that other than sell it? [07:01] well - one more beer for me then bed [07:01] Fezzler: If we wait long enough, it won't be worth the dust it wieghs [07:02] downloading 108 updates for Vista Factory recovery and it failed the first time [07:02] worth is relative [07:03] see ya gents [07:03] gotto run [07:03] Fezzler: Always! [07:03] holstein>> I may hit ComputerWorks tomorrow [07:03] thanks ailo [07:03] i go everytime im in charlotte [07:03] and i go to the one here every thursday [07:04] fun stuff [07:04] yup [07:04] alrght... bedtime [07:04] GN [07:05] www.club100.org [07:05] one of my other useless hobbies [07:05] g nite