[00:38] @woodzy - try 'sudo apt-get -f install' to make sure the install didn't break halfway through. That happened to me a while back. [00:43] wish rekonq would handle ubuntuone better :( [00:47] @heinkel_111 - I just tried in k3b on a new system and was able to rip an audio CD to flac without a problem. Which version of KDE are you using? [00:47] @kyubutsu - What's rekonq doing on ubuntuone? [00:49] @kyubutsu the reason I'm asking is because I'd like to try to recreate this behaviour for a bug report [00:52] for starters, rekonq doesnt have any visual cue when downloading large files [progress bar]; and it has failed several times at uploading ; its more of feature request than a bug [00:55] @kyubutsu - When downloading a file, rekonq hands the download off to KDE's job manager. There should be an icon all the way on the left of your system tray (just to the right of the show desktop icon in the default settings) that will tell you about notifications and jobs. [00:56] That should be where it has your downloads. [00:56] lengau: i meant uploading .. [00:56] overall rekonq does a crappy job at dealing with ubuntuone [00:56] compare with chromium if you like [00:57] in fact, i installed chromium for the sole purpose of handling ubuntuone [00:57] :( [00:58] kyubutsu - I don't really use Ubuntu One, but I actually use Chrome on all of my machines. I use oxygen-gtk to make Chrome look like (mostly) a KDE app. [00:58] ( http://hugo-kde.blogspot.com/2010/11/oxygen-gtk.html if you're interested) [00:58] i want rekonq [00:58] :( [00:59] & rekonq fails :( [00:59] i even like it better than konqueror [01:00] good design but, fail at ubuntuone transactions [01:02] webkit -1 ? i dun wanna believe that [01:05] The only thing I can suggest then is to make some noise so it gets noticed and placed on the Natty wishlist (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/appdevs-kubuntu-n-rekonq-wishlist) === owner is now known as supermagic === stalcup is now known as vorian === tristan is now known as Guest11791 [03:55] hey folks, i try to use time command with options, but all do fail even time --help ? --help : command not found [03:57] hm, ok was a bash buitlin time i guess... [03:59] how to find out if a builtin is used or not? which time gave /usr/bin/time but it was not used as time... [04:01] I would use the full path e.g. /usr/bin/time -options [04:01] This is strange. ftptop is showing 2 idle users..any way to kick 'em off? [04:02] well_laid_lawn: yeah, found that already, but as which time gave that path i thought it would be used... [04:22] i'm trying to configure a window (vlc media player) to not show up on the task bar but only in the system tray (it already show up in both); what am i looking for in kwin to configure it so that it does not show up in the task bar but only the system tray? [04:36] how can i set the volume at a certain level (50% for example) every time i log in? even when i have it set lower than 100% it still defaults to 100% when i log in. [04:47] Are quick questions allowed in here? [04:49] sure [04:50] So, I was installing the LAMP package from the "sudo tasksel" line. It ended up freezing at 74% for about 20 minutes so I thought it may have glitched up... I closed my terminal and now when I go to re run that same line I get an error telling me that the config.dat is being locked by another proccess. [04:50] Any idea? [04:51] debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable [04:51] That's the exact error. [04:52] you could try lsof to see what is using it [04:52] You could do a lsof | grep debconf/config.dat [04:52] !aptfix [04:52] If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a » [04:52] That would tell you which process is locking the file. If any [04:55] Interesting.. Killed the proccess and now I just got a ton of "Setting up... Enabling, etc" [04:55] in my Terminal. [04:55] I'm asumming that's enabling/installed 74% of the pack up until where it froze, correct? [04:56] So it would be ideal to re run the package, yes? [04:56] You'd better re-install it. [04:56] (By the way thanks for those tips; I'm a brand new Kubuntu user so these really help!) [04:56] Okay :) [04:56] Or at least check to see that it installed OK [04:58] Bah.. still got that same error when trying to run the [04:58] "sudo tasksel" [04:59] I would just use apt-get [04:59] You sure you installed that LAMP thing? [04:59] woodzy: qdbus org.kde.kmix /Mixer0 setMasterVolume 50 [05:00] I don't know if it fully installed. [05:00] Is it anything executable that you can run to check? [05:00] I'll quickly check [05:02] I have a "Run MySQL" executable but nothing happens when opened. [05:04] You sure nothing happens? Maybe it runs in the background or something. [05:49] Quick question ... what's a recommended app for managing media players that would (in Windows) use the Windows Media Player to manage them? [05:50] manage media players? [05:51] Amarok? [05:51] well_laid_lawn: Like an iPod [05:51] oh [05:51] Yeah, specifically non apple ones. [05:53] i upgraded from maverick to natty and now my broadcom sta wirelss does not work i am typing this on my linux mint debian edition triple boot [05:53] !natty [05:53] Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011 - Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1 - Natty is unstable and is not intended for production systems. === sean is now known as Guest68101 [09:05] Is there a way to clear your dns cache? [09:05] I know there is, cant remember the command. [09:06] where can I download kubuntu 11.04 torrent? [09:11] !torrent [09:11] Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P [09:11] !natty [09:11] Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011 - Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1 - Natty is unstable and is not intended for production systems. [09:11] alokito: ^^ === ubuntu is now known as conchy1 === roman is now known as Guest83506 === xy_ is now known as Guest50961 [11:27] 想请教大家一个有关amarok的问题 [11:29] !jp [11:29] 日本語の場合は #ubuntu-jp または #kubuntu-jp を参照して下さい [11:31] 最近一打开amarok就会提示为增请amarok功能需要安装额外软件包点击查看之后会提示安装安装一个视频解码器点击安装提示E:无法修正错误，因为您要求某些软件包保持现状，就是它们破坏了软件包间的依赖关系。 [11:32] 请教下各位这到底是怎么回事而且自从出现这种状况之后 amarok运行起来就不太正常经常崩溃 [11:33] !cn | Guest50961 [11:33] Guest50961: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw 或者 #ubuntu-hk === jz is now known as Guest65891 [11:58] hello world [11:59] I know there is a qt interface designer somewhere but I cannot for my life remember its name - there used to be a qtdesigner but apt-get cannot find it. What is the program I am looking for? [11:59] !find designer [11:59] Found: libqscintilla2-designer, qt3-designer, libbio-primerdesigner-perl, openoffice.org-report-builder, pgdesigner [12:00] I thought designer came with qt - try in konsole which designer Klaus_Dieter [12:00] !info qt4-designer [12:00] qt4-designer (source: qt4-x11): graphical designer for Qt 4 applications. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu4.2 (maverick), package size 342 kB, installed size 1872 kB [12:00] Klaus_Dieter: ^ [12:01] I wonder why the bot didn't find it... [12:02] good question.. [12:02] I seached for qtdesigner - now installing qt4-designer [12:02] thank you! === xy__ is now known as Guest6610 === pablo_ is now known as Pablito === arian_ is now known as Guest12750 === apachelogger is now known as darthlogger === darthlogger is now known as apachelogger [12:49] yesterday I did a release upgrade of kubuntu and everything worked like a charm. I was totally surprised and I have to say that this is just great! [12:49] Klaus_Dieter: nice [12:50] so: Thank you for all the hard work and for making that happen [12:51] kubuntu is a community project [12:51] a lots of people do the work free [12:51] for free [12:51] that is why I am coming here to say it [12:51] :) [12:52] Klaus_Dieter: the best thing you could do is spread the voice [12:52] and maybe code something xD [12:52] * Peace- back on automatize kdenlive [12:56] new KDE software works wery well for me and I'm more than glad. This is by far more stable and shiny than in kubuntu 9.04 release. But i have several minor problems with new kernel. Unfortunately I have lost old ones (from previous releases). Can I add something to sources list so I get linux-image from one distribution (9.04) and the rest from newest 10.10? [12:58] well, you would have to add the sources from an older release for that (please don't use 9.04 though, that doesn't get any security updates anymore) [12:59] what are your kernel problems by the way? [12:59] ok, can you tell me where I can find addreses? [13:00] Laptop battery life decreased by 50% and no VMWare [13:00] MasterOfIntegral: check your /etc/apt/sources.list - there copy the lines with archive.ubuntu.com and put them into the file changing maverick to lucid - I wouldn't recommend jaunty, that's only on old-releases.ubuntu.com [13:01] and make sure you don't edit the existing ones, make a backup of the file first [13:01] oh, it was so obvious. ;-) Thank you very much! [13:02] then you can try an older kernel like linux-image-2.6.32-27-generic [13:02] if you need additional compiled drivers don't forget to install the corresponding kernel headers [13:03] Thanks for details! I will try it right now. [13:21] @ yofel: thank you very much for your time and support! I should have come to idea of cp url and swap maverick with lucid or koala ;-) Now need to reboot to check out new (old) kernel. [13:41] hi, thanks once again to yofel, now I can use once again my VMWare machines! [13:42] MasterOfIntegral: you might want to boot the other kernel once and file a bug with 'ubuntu-bug linux' that vmware doesn't work with the maverick kernel [14:08] My network printer does't work in Maveric, don't know if it's because of kernel or some new cups drivers included. It worked flawlessly in karmic, not sure about jaunty... It still says processing on Document Print status (was going to print one line textfile). Some time before printer printed some random characters on about hundred pages until hard reset of printer & router ;-) [14:08] Any ideas? I have HP color laserjet CP1515n [14:10] maybe at least name of channel which I could join to ask this question? [14:17] MasterOfIntegral: tried to add it with the HPLIP management app? The package name for that was hplip-gui [14:17] I added my HP OfficeJet fine using that [14:18] yofel: no, I was adding it by System Settings. I will try hplip-gui now. [14:25] yofel: you're awesome! [14:25] it works [14:26] I didn't know about that application. I's very nice [14:57] hi, i see from the kde wiki that krunner can manage currency conversions, but when i try it..it doesn't work, should i have to install some extra package for it? [15:02] i've installed plasma-runners-addons, but still there isn't [15:05] mika__: works here if I type '100€ in' for example, gives me a list of currencies [15:06] and yes plasma-runners-addons contains the converter [15:06] yofel: i write 100€= and it says: eur 100.... but what if i want it in usd? [15:07] did you restart krunner after installing plasma-runners-addons? [15:09] yofel: yes.... actually i restarted it again and now works... don't know why.. [15:09] thanks :) [15:09] odd [15:10] do you know when it updates the data? and if it's cached (for offline conversions) [15:10] when / how often [15:12] or does it call ecb everytime for the conversion? [15:12] no idea [15:12] ok [15:12] one more questione,if you know :) [15:13] what about simple calcs like: x:1=5:10 ? [15:13] i try it... but with a final = it says x=310.... not so good,as it should be 0.5 :) [15:14] Hey guys [15:14] how do I set start up services in Kubuntu [15:15] I woud like Compiz and Knetworkmanager to be autorun for all users that log into a KDE session [15:16] mika__: not much better here, 5:10=5,1666667 o.O [15:16] yofel: nice :) [15:16] Anyone? === sean is now known as Guest30379 [15:17] Slashx: checked systemsettings -> startup and shutdown? === Guest30379 is now known as Harris === Harris is now known as seanharris [15:19] please... spanish chanel?? [15:19] !es | walter_ [15:19] walter_: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [15:20] gracias [15:34] Hi folks [15:39] Is it just me or is KDE 4.6 RC1's sound system really broken (without PulseAudio)? [15:41] dunno , that's the chance one takes with RCs, BajK...maybe the alsa settings are muted again [15:41] BluesKaj: it's just that it worked perfectly in Beta 2 [15:41] and now people blaim me for not having this buggy pulseaudio thingie installed [15:42] afk, restarting, now installed pulseaudio [15:43] Hello. How do I install thunderbird on the latest Crunchbang statler? Claws-mail is cool but really does not cut it for me.. [15:43] hello a query [15:44] I have problems with the screen size [15:44] I return to the previous setting after restart [15:44] any suggestions? [15:44] I'm not a fan but mplayer sound needs pulkseaudio on mmy setup and I'm using mencoder for video and audio capture [15:44] Lists: there is a #crunchbang channel [15:45] sorry wrong window [15:45] np [15:46] I'm sorry, but I'm new in kubuntu [15:47] walter_: you are prob saving sessions [15:47] !sessions [15:48] ?? sorrydo not understand [15:49] select a new kde session at login === Natsuru_Senou is now known as Slashx [15:52] How do I make windows on kde behave like they do on plasma-netbook... does kde use something like maximus, I have already added the "Current Application Controls" to the panel [15:52] maximised windows with no decoration.. yes please :) [15:52] I'm still waiting for a Google Earth version that will run on kde 4.5, just crashes at launch ...very poor support [15:53] Paddy_NI: maybe try the "air for netbooks" theme instead of "air"? [15:53] (in workspace appearance) [15:54] BluesKaj: you want marble [15:54] Klaus_Dieter, do I ? :) [15:54] marble doesnt have a way to save locations does it? [15:54] maco, Oh thanks I had just thought that was a plasma theme and had no interference with kwin [15:55] it works well and is stable here [15:55] maco: not sure [15:55] Yeah so [15:55] Can you guys help [15:56] BluesKaj: google earth 5.1 worked [15:56] but the option to download it was removed when they put up 6 === niels__ is now known as nielsbusch [15:57] maco, is there a source for 5.1 ? [15:57] anywhere [15:57] i dont know how to get it anymore [15:57] maco, ok [15:58] does 6 not work either? [15:59] not on my seup maco , it uses a deb installer and appears to install properly without errors, but it won't open on my setup [16:00] and you get the crash on launch with 5.2? [16:02] no ,6 is the only one available, afaik , maco [16:05] maco, it does not work unless I change "Workspace" to netbook which is not what I want [16:05] maco, I will figure this out :) [16:07] btw what is the latest stable kde version? [16:08] How do I set startup apps [16:08] been out of circulation for a time === michail is now known as Guest20939 [16:10] hello people [16:13] Pablito: 4.5 i think [16:13] whoops [16:13] Pablito: ignore that [16:30] do you remember which kernel didn't have issue with power management: powertop wakeups from [kernel scheduler] Load balancing tick? I've checked all kernels from 2.6.31 to 2.6.36 [16:30] I checked all from 2.6.31-36 and they limit my battery life by 50% [16:31] This issue was already filed as a bug in Maverick [16:37] I diddn't like the fact that ths tutorial installed alien on my box but it obviously use a better version of GE-Linux than the ubuntu repos, and the tutorial does work to install GE successfully [16:37] http://www.webupd8.org/2010/11/install-google-earth-6-in-ubuntu-linux.html [16:57] have problem to upgrade from 10.04 to maverick, cause i have installed kde 4.5.3 from packports on lucid [16:57] get always the error about kubuntu-desktop [16:57] rethus: what error? [16:57] if i remove kubuntu-desktop completly, does all the configfiles of kde still appear in the system? [16:58] rethus: removing kde wont remove your user config files, and system ones should only be removed if you purge [16:58] hey all, i have a seemlingly stupid question... but it's actually kinda important to me [16:58] !ask | atlas [16:58] atlas: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [16:58] what was the cmd-command for upgrading to newer distributiion [16:58] i'm running an upgraded box and a new install of 10.10 [16:59] was something likes upgrade-.... [16:59] rethus: do-realese-updrade [16:59] both running quassel, one system flashes a red/blue Q [16:59] ^^ but spelt correctly :) [16:59] and the upgraded system flashes the mail image Q [16:59] :P [16:59] when my nick is mentioned. [16:59] how do i get the upgraded box to have the red/blue Q? [17:00] my brain blocks out the other one as noise... but the red Q gets my attention as it should. [17:01] James 147: so if i run this, i got this error http://pastebin.com/Xdzk02dG [17:01] atlas: play around with the notifications, I think 10.10 now uses the indicator widget by default, an upgrade could still use the old settings [17:01] so i think about to remove the package and install it later [17:02] thanks you, James147. the upgraded one uses indicator as well, using libnotify (iinm). [17:02] but that doesn't do a red Q, it's just a white piece of mail sitting quietly until something happens, right? [17:03] yep, and get's a green background when something happens [17:03] quassel 0.7 should always use the red Q though if you don't use the indicator [17:04] James147: so you think i can remove this package, do an upgrade and reinstall this package and all should go well? [17:04] rethus: what dose that error mean in english? [17:05] James147: 'Couldn't mark kubuntu-desktop for upgrade', well something like that [17:05] the package kubunut-desktop could'nt mark as upgradable [17:05] kubuntu-desktop is version 1.174.1 [17:06] atlas: is the system tray icon enabled for quassel? [17:06] James 147: the only other version i have (in synaptic) is 1.174.1 [17:06] rethus: run "sudo apt-get install -f" andsee if it fixes anything [17:06] i mean 1.174 [17:07] James 147: i run it, nothing happend [17:07] James147: yes, the system tray icon is enabled [17:07] means no error found all should run well [17:09] atlas: is there any different in the notifications settings for both installs? [17:10] rethus: hmm, well I would try a reinstall (sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop) then try the upgrade again (probally wont help, but it cant hurt) [17:10] should i deactivate backports repository while reinstalling? [17:10] rethus: I fear that's beyond update-managers capacity then. A) try to install ppa-purge from lucid-backports and run 'sudo ppa-purge ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports'. That will try to downgrade the packgages to something you can upgrade B) try to upgrade by editing sources.list by hand and apt-get dist-upgrade [17:11] rethus: not for now... [17:11] James147: kubuntu-desktop isn't the problem, the problem is that update-manager has no chance of sanely resolving the dependencies if you have enabled the backports repository in lucid [17:11] since it tries to upgrade lucid 4.5.3 to maverick 4.5.1 [17:12] yofel: fairly sure I did an upgrade with it enabled... but I could be wrong :S [17:12] yofel: ppa-purge is a package? [17:12] rethus: it is [17:12] yofel: ah, yeah... that could do it... I would have tried ages ago so probally had a lesser version [17:13] yofel: and thanks for the hint about ppa-purge :) been looking for something like that [17:13] does this package remove all the backports-repos? [17:13] its for removing PPAs [17:13] if you mean kubuntu-backports, then yes [17:13] but if you mean ubuntu-backports, then no [17:13] wow, ppa-purge seems to do a good job... list me many packages and dependencies [17:14] yofel: so if i let ppa-purge do his job, i got the default kde for 10.04 back? [17:15] uhh not for long [17:15] the version thats in kubuntu-backports is going into the regular 10.04 updates soon i think [17:15] finally got approval after like a year of it to include kde's point releases [17:15] maco: no, what's in kubuntu-updates will go into regular ubuntu-updates soon [17:15] hmm ok [17:16] too many ppas [17:16] meaning 4.4.5 instead of 4.4.2 for offical lucid [17:16] you're right [17:16] just re-read emails [17:16] first i was glad to see the concept of LTS versions... but i think the problem is, that there are no realy major-upgrades, only bugfixes and patches, right? [17:16] therefor i go back to make each distribution upgrade [17:17] instead using LTS version [17:18] rethus: the point of an LTS is that its stable, not upto date, something like that shouldnt recive major upgrades as they are most likly to break things [17:19] rethus: thus is you want the latest stuff then upgrading to the next version of the distro is the best plan [17:20] so this means, kde 5.4.3 never comes to 10.04 ? [17:20] 4.5.3 will never *officially* come to 10.04 [17:21] and 4.6 won't even come unofficially, too many new dependencies [17:21] rethus: 5.4.3 :S HIGHLY unlikly ;) 4.4.3 ^^ from whyat yofel/maco said it looks like it might, but that is only a minor version increase, its a bugfix/maintance relase === vorian is now known as bzip [17:21] s/4.4.3/4.4.5/ ;) [17:22] k, thats what i need to know. whats the default kde for 0.10? [17:22] bzip: ever go 24h without /nick'ing? [17:22] 10.10 [17:22] rethus: 4.5.x [17:22] maco: na [17:22] rethus: currently 4.5.1, kubuntu-updates has 4.5.4 [17:22] :) [17:23] yofel: so the minor-upgrades are still in kubunut-updates ?! [17:23] 4.5.4 ... 4.5.5 (in future) and so on [17:23] rethus: getting that into official updates is in progress, but takes time [17:23] k, but it will [17:23] or is planed [17:23] yes [17:24] great, you help me a lot - now i understand this strategie a little more [17:26] afternoon maco [17:26] hiya Lord_Drachenblut [17:28] how's it going maco [17:29] Lord_Drachenblut: alright. you? [17:31] not to bad just killing a little time before i take the girlfriend to work. [17:31] maco, i found a tutorial for Google Earth which worked, atho it uses alien to convert from rpm , something I'm not real happy about, but it does work on my setup. http://www.webupd8.org/2010/11/install-google-earth-6-in-ubuntu-linux.html [17:32] hahah fun [17:32] so the earth 6 deb is just plain broken? [17:32] hey yofel [17:32] maco yeah, seems so [17:33] hey BluesKaj === yofel_ is now known as yofel [17:33] this is a bin file , but it's version 6, maco [17:34] yeay, sunshine and blue skies and +4C , finally [17:34] yofel: have done this ppa-purge command you described... my machin installed much other packes... [17:35] now after restart i type kde4-config --version and got [17:35] KDE: 4.5.3 (KDE 4.5.3) [17:35] whats that now? [17:35] doesn't take effect like it should? [17:35] well, I don't know where kde4-config get's it's version from [17:36] but try do-release-upgrade again [17:36] * BluesKaj still uses 4.5.1...guess it's the latest stable vers [17:36] the packagemanager looks different like before [17:36] so something happend [17:36] BluesKaj: that's what's in maverick, ppa has 4.5.4 [17:37] any benefits to upgrading , yofel ? [17:37] I don't know the bug list, if you don't have any issues leave it I guess [17:37] yofel: packagemanager telles me now he has over 1500 updates [17:37] asking me probably won't help much anyway since I'm running 4.6rc1 [17:38] rethus: o.O I wonder if do-release-upgrade forgot to change the sources back.. [17:39] i didn't have run do-release-upgrade after ppa-purge [17:39] should i do this? [17:40] I meant from before, but since you want to upgrade run do-release-upgrade now [17:40] phone, back in a few mins [17:40] there i get much deprecatet errors [17:40] Evening folks... It is my first time in KDE, and I'm not getting my way really well in the desktop environemnt... would anyonde recommend a good reading for me to get used to it? [17:40] wll, guess I could run dist-upgrade after adding the ppa backports , but I'm wondering if there are any benefits other than being on the bleeding edge so to speak ? [17:41] !kde | CyL [17:41] CyL: KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See http://kubuntu.org for more information. [17:41] yofel: http://pastebin.com/UuCU7Z4B [17:41] yofel: whats now? [17:41] CyL: the help center might be useful (kmenu > apps > Help) [17:43] BluesKaj: i advvice you not to use backports... i did and have many problems now to get system to higher distribution (Maverick) [17:43] BluesKaj, James147: thanks [17:43] rethus, I'm already on maverick [17:44] yofel: so what can i do now. do-release-upgrade didn't work, and now i have system with many old packages [17:44] yofel: whats your workarround? [17:45] if i look in sourcelist, there are only maverick-packages [17:45] BluesKaj: backports-problems for lucid may the same in future for maverick [17:46] rethus: try changing them back to lucid (I would backup the config file first though) [17:48] whats then [17:49] comment out backports in source.list ? [17:49] james 147 [17:51] rethus, did you sudo apt-get update after doing the release upgrade ? [17:52] i have done no release-upgrade... i have only done this ppa-purge-command [17:52] * James147 wonders if it would it would be easier to just do a fresh install on maverick instead... [17:52] after that, if i have a look into kpackagemanager i have 1547 updates [17:52] (seems to be the whole system) [17:52] should i run all this updates? [17:53] well, if your sources.list points to maverick that will pretty much upgrade to maverick, just make sure kubuntu-desktop stays installed [17:53] James147, I had not probs using do-release-upgrade , I just mage sure the ppas were all deleted first [17:54] yofel: hope this wil not break my system [17:54] some packages like kubuntu-firefox... are in the kpackagemanager has update-version 10.10 [17:54] so it seems this are all maverik packages [17:55] so ppa-purge did make a upgrade to maverik? [17:55] rethus: as I said, make sure 'kubuntu-desktop' is installed after the upgrade, then your system should work [17:55] rethus: no, ppa-purge won't do that [17:55] rethus , no need to run a ppa purge command , just tyake ou the ppas from your sources list then sudo apt-get update , the do-release-upgrade afterwards [17:55] rethus: it's probably since you cancelled do-release-upgrade mid-way with ctrl+c [17:55] yofel: wait... a little slower for me [17:56] then [17:56] i will explain what i do, and you will explain what happend [17:56] i install ppa-purge like you said [17:56] BluesKaj: if you add kubuntu-backports to lucid it's impossible to upgrade to maverick without ppa-purge [17:56] id od the sudo ppa-... command [17:56] my system install much packages a whole time... and ask for restart [17:56] is restart [17:56] rethus: before that, did you ever cancel do-release-upgrade with ctrl+c [17:56] now i have 1547 updates in kpackagemanager... [17:56] ? [17:57] maybe... but if, than before ppa-purge was installed [17:57] yofel, what if you just delete tem from the sources list ? [17:57] them [17:57] BluesKaj: then do-release-upgrade will have to figure out how to upgrade 4.5.3 to 4.5.1 -> FAIL === templar_visible is now known as wqapol [17:58] so i think: normaly ppa-purge should put my system back to 4.5.1, but it doesn't === wqapol is now known as tumbledor [17:59] yofel, odd , I just deleted the ppas when I upgraded to maverick from lucid [17:59] rethus: without logs what it actually did and your complete apt setup I can only guess what happened [17:59] why ever... it seems the system is now a little confused (like me) [18:00] so i have no aptitude on my system and < 1500 updates [18:00] rethus: so I would guess: you cancelled d-r-u, which left source.list pointed to maverick, so I have no idea what ppa-purge would do in that case, now you've got a lucid/maverick mixup [18:01] what is d-r-u [18:01] rethus: I would leave the sources pointed to maverick and upgrade with 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' [18:01] rethus: do-release-upgrade (too much to type all the time) [18:01] k, i'll try [18:02] apt-get dist-upgrade says: 1571 packages. [18:02] sounds reasonable [18:02] yea, so i'll try [18:03] but apt-get say: the following packages are hold back: kubuntu-desktop [18:03] rethus, maybe this will work , but be warned this changes your sources.list to point to maverick repos , sudo sed -i 's/lucid/maverick/' /etc/apt/sources.list [18:03] rethus: can you pastebin the output of apt-get dist-upgrade? [18:04] BluesKaj: he already has that [18:04]