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stlsaint_phillw: ping05:02
stlsaint_i have a bug05:02
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stlsaint_anyone around??05:03
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stlsaint_hey i need to get this bug checked out before i report it05:04
phillwstlsaint_: well if you hang around for than 10 seconds...05:05
phillw*for more than*05:05
stlsaint_phillw: yea but this potential *bug* is really pissing me off as it makes me hard kill my system and its happening quite often now05:06
bioterrorwhat05:06
stlsaint_if anyone dares to try it here are the steps:05:07
stlsaint_1. Right click panel and select to "Add to panel" option05:07
stlsaint_2. Go to "Panel Applets" tab05:07
stlsaint_3. Select in the bottom left corner next to virtual desktops the double window "iconify" icon button05:08
stlsaint_your panel should disappear along with all05:08
stlsaint_running applications left in background05:08
stlsaint_one reason why im running now with the nick: stlsaint_ instead of stlsaint05:09
stlsaint_my irc client was left hanging as i hard kill my system >:|05:09
stlsaint_if anyone else gets this same response i will file report05:10
phillwstlsaint_: I'd suggest reporting it to the mailing list.05:13
stlsaint_mailing list?05:13
stlsaint_i wouldnt file with apport or launchpad05:14
stlsaint_im actually looking on lp right now in lubuntu, i dont see how to file bug as with others05:14
stlsaint_phillw: considering i have had this panel issue with before without performing the same procedures im unsure what the specific component would be,05:15
stlsaint_i will send to mailing list now but that doesnt offer much in the way of tracking, triaging, etc05:16
phillwstlsaint_: pop it on to the mailing list05:16
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phillwthe devs and techie people will ask you for more details05:16
* phillw bed time for this little piglet, I will see you all later05:18
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balsaqis there such a thing as a lubuntu affiliation07:15
hblounthi. what is the name of the gui app that lets me search and install software?07:53
JoeMaverickSetthblount: Synaptics Package Manager or Ubuntu Software Center ?07:59
hblountoh yeah the latter. thanks08:01
hblounthow do i install that?08:01
bioterror:D08:06
bioterrorhblount, apt-get is all you need ;D08:06
bioterroryou dont need software center ;)08:06
JoeMaverickSetthblount: in synaptics, it's called software-center. or sudo apt-get install software-center. :)08:06
bioterrorI've tried that couple of times at my parents-in-law and I've been really "WTF?!"08:06
JoeMaverickSetthblount: but i'd go with bioterror though. :)08:07
bioterrorJoeMaverickSett, as you always do08:07
bioterroroh my 'lil follower :D08:07
JoeMaverickSettbioterror: aye, sir. :P08:07
bioterrorhave you managed to put up that cult of bioterror's followers :D08:07
* JoeMaverickSett goes back to his following as the leader is here.08:07
hblountim too noob08:07
bioterrorhblount, what you want to search08:07
bioterrorwe can make few examples08:07
bioterrorto get you up n running with apt-get08:08
JoeMaverickSetthblount: not noob, just haven't got around to getting to know yet. :)08:08
hblountand lazy :P08:09
hblountE: Package 'software-center' has no installation candidate08:10
JoeMaverickSett:D08:10
hblounti tried sudo apt-get install software-center08:10
JoeMaverickSetthblount: well, if that is the case, what it is that you wanted to find or install from software center? or you just wanted the Ubuntu Software Center? :D08:13
jussiWhat is the name of the window manager in lxde/lubuntu?08:14
hblounti want to look at diff stuff and read about em :P08:15
bioterrorjussi, Lubuntu uses OpenBox08:17
bioterrorhblount, I'm trying to figure out a example for you08:19
JoeMaverickSettbioterror: would you suggest apt-cache show <package> to hblount 's issue? :D /me uses that even on my vanilla ubuntu.08:19
bioterroryes08:19
bioterrorI use it alot08:19
JoeMaverickSett:D08:20
bioterrorlet's say that I've been upgraded to a project manager08:20
bioterrorand I have to start coordinate some projects08:20
bioterrorand I'm like "hmmm... what software I could use for this..."08:20
bioterrorand I can use apt-cache to show me a software with command "apt-cache search project |grep management"08:22
bioterrorand I see a listing08:22
bioterrorplanner - project management application08:22
bioterrorthat sounds promising, right?08:22
bioterrorthen I can say "apt-cache show planner |less"08:22
bioterrorand I can see something like this08:22
bioterrorDescription: project management application08:22
bioterror Planner is a Project Management application that supports Gantt charts,08:22
bioterror resource allocation and integration with other GNOME applications.08:23
bioterrorand doesnt that Gannt charts sounds promising?08:23
JoeMaverickSettvery promising.08:23
hblountwhat is the |less part?08:23
bioterrorhblount, it's same as "|more" but I can scroll with pgup and pgdown08:24
hblountoh08:24
bioterrorif you want to search for games08:24
bioterroryou can use like "apt-cache search mmorpg08:25
bioterror"08:25
hblountcool thanks!08:26
bioterroranything else in your mind08:26
hblountwhich one is the thing that shows cpu temp in taskbar?08:26
bioterrorif you want to find a game that's like lemmings, well, "apt-cache search lemmings"08:26
bioterrorthat requires lm-sensors08:27
bioterrorand lubuntu doesnt have that kind of app for taskbar, AFAIK08:27
bioterrorhblount, http://ricecows.org/conky.png but you can configure conky to show that statics for you08:27
hblountyeah conky cool08:30
hblounthow do i install that?08:34
bioterrorconky?08:34
hblountyeah08:35
bioterrorsudo apt-get install lm-sensors08:35
bioterrorthen sudo sensors-detect08:35
bioterroranswer yes to all questions08:35
hblountk thx08:36
bioterrorthen you need to install conky08:37
hblountE: Package 'lm-sensors' has no installation candidate....whats that mean?08:37
bioterrorlm-sensors - utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors08:37
bioterrorhmmm08:37
bioterrorhblount, did you just say "sudo apt-get install lm-sensors"?08:39
JoeMaverickSett:|08:39
bioterrorWed10:39 <bioterror> hblount, did you just say "sudo apt-get install lm-sensors"?08:41
hblountyeah08:41
bioterrorthat's weird08:41
bioterrorhblount, is your repositories okay08:43
bioterrorhave you enable all the repos08:43
bioterrorpartners and stuff from the synaptic08:43
hblountidk. i just installed 10.10 right now with 3rd party software thing checked08:43
bioterroryeah it's called partners08:44
hblountsame msg when i tried sudo apt-get install software-center08:45
bioterrorsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install lm-sensors08:46
hblountis this update manageer equivalent?08:47
hblountnm08:48
bioterrordid you update your repository?08:50
hblountoh now it works! wtf08:50
bioterrorgood08:51
hblountwhat did i do in the 30min i've had this installed?08:51
bioterrorwhat08:51
hblounti installed lubuntu 30min ago08:51
bioterrorokay08:52
bioterrorgood08:52
bioterrorsudo apt-get update08:52
bioterrorthat's usually suggested to do when you're dealing with packages08:52
bioterroras you need your repositories to be up-to-date08:52
bioterrorare you now installing lm-sensors? :D08:52
hblountyeah! thanks bioterror! all nice then turn around and gas a bunch of ppl or what08:54
bioterrorare we going to configure that conky for you or what's in your mind08:54
hblountSorry, no sensors were detected.08:56
hblountThis is relatively common on laptops, where thermal management is08:56
bioterror:o08:56
hblounthandled by ACPI rather than the OS.08:56
bioterrorwhat kind of laptop are you running then?08:56
bioterroror what08:56
hblounti swear i had it on here before08:56
hblountits an old acer aspire 361308:56
jussihblount: theres some acer modules you can install iirc08:57
jussinot sure if they are for your model though08:57
hblounti had something that was a tiny black square on the bottom right in the task bar that had green number with temp as well as little graph looking thing08:58
hblountjussi: how do i find and install acer modules?08:58
jussi!find acer09:00
jussino bot here?09:01
bioterror!acer09:01
hblount!acer09:01
jussiIll put her here until we get a more permanent one09:02
jussi!find acer09:02
ubottuFound: dnstracer, acerhk-source, apt-forktracer, extremetuxracer, extremetuxracer-data, extremetuxracer-dbg, extremetuxracer-extras, extremetuxracer-gimp-dev, leaktracer, opticalraytracer (and 10 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=acer&searchon=names&suite=maverick&section=all09:02
bioterrorjussi, nice09:02
jussi!info acerhk-source09:03
ubottuacerhk-source (source: acerhk): Source for the acerhk driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.35-8 (maverick), package size 38 kB, installed size 80 kB09:03
ubot5acerhk-source (source: acerhk): Source for the acerhk driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.35-8 (lucid), package size 38 kB, installed size 80 kB09:03
jussioh, ubot5is here09:03
jussihrrr09:03
jussiubottu: part09:03
jussithough Ive no idea what the acerhk driver is09:04
jussiThis driver will give access to the special keys on notebooks of the  Acer Travelmate series, which are not handled by the keyboard driver.09:05
jussiIt also has some other related functionality (depending on the model):09:05
jussi   * controlling LEDs (Mail, Wireless)09:05
jussi   * enable/disable wireless hardware09:05
hblountdam thats diff from mine09:05
jussihblount: mind: It also works on notebooks from other manufacturers (some Medion, Fujitsu-Siemens, Compal, Xbook...).09:05
hblounti want my horizontal scroll to work on my touchpad :P09:05
jussisee apt-cache show acerhk-source09:06
hblounti see. how do i install?09:07
hblountnm09:08
hblountwow it seems big09:10
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jussiHrm, I seem to have lost the networking applet - can someone advise me of the name of it? (ie. the command to start it from alt+f2?)09:38
bioterrornm-applet09:39
jussioh, its using the gnome one :)09:39
bioterroryeah09:40
bioterrorthere's two apps09:40
bioterrorit's wicd or gnome-nm-applet09:40
bioterrornot that much to choose from09:40
jussithe gnome one is nice withthe presetup 3g stuff :)09:41
bioterroryes09:41
bioterrorwicd is without gnome :)09:42
jussiand is lubuntu using ayatana notifications or ?09:42
bioterrordunno about that09:43
jussiahh, its just the notification-daemon :)09:46
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craigbass1976My computer is a turd, and I put LXDE on it to help speed things up.  Things are sitll slow. One item I was curious about was the gnome-system-monitor.  Why would this be running with lxde being my desktop?20:04
craigbass1976And can I safely kill it?20:04
Yorvykyep20:05
bioterrorcould you please specify your situation more20:05
bioterroryou've a ubuntu installation and you installed just lxde or lubuntu-desktop or what20:05
craigbass1976bioterror, It was a regular ubuntu install, then I grabbed the lubuntu-desktop20:05
stlsaintsup folks20:05
stlsaintcraigbass1976: well that explains why you have gnome running! :D20:06
bioterrorcraigbass1976, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde20:06
craigbass1976bioterror, how different do you suppose the lucid version would be?20:07
bioterrorsudo apt-get remove gnome\*20:07
stlsaintbioterror: oh thats a nice little tut20:07
bioterrorsudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop20:07
stlsaintlol, thats one heck of a one-liner20:08
bioterrorrather sudo apt-get purge :D20:08
craigbass1976meh?   all three?20:08
craigbass1976I'm looking through my bash history, and I really have no idea how lxde ended up on here in the first place; maybe it was a clean install and I junked it up afterward...20:11
craigbass1976bioterror, thanks, I'll run those and see what happens20:12
bioterrorcraigbass1976, keep wired connection near you20:12
bioterrorif you happen to loose wlan connection or something20:12
bioterrorif you're using laptop20:12
bioterroror wi-fi at all20:12
craigbass1976bioterror, I'm on a wire already.20:13
bioterrornice20:13
craigbass1976bioterror, and I probably shouldn't be in the GUI while Im doing this, should I...20:13
bioterrorwell20:14
bioterrordoesnt matter if you're doing it from lubuntu :D20:14
bioterrorbut yeah20:14
bioterrorI usually do it from console20:14
craigbass1976Ok; see you folks later.20:14
bioterror:)20:14
bioterrorclean system he shall have20:14
bioterrorI hope so20:15
craigbass1976bioterror, I'm all set now, things are a bit quicker.  Is there anyway to set spacer width?  Even at 0, it kind of fills a wide space.  I've read about turning stretch on and off, but I don't see where I can do that.21:33
craigbass1976Anyone know of a way to get four desktops in the pager, rather than two?21:33
craigbass1976Forget the first question, I see how to unstretch things21:35
Yorvykcraigbass1976, Prefs > openbox config manager > desktops21:37
craigbass1976Yorvyk, awesome.21:38
h4wkhi everyone22:10
h4wk:D22:10
Yorvykhi22:11
h4wkI love Lubuntu and from now on I will come here more often22:12
Yorvykh4wk, if you want to meet other Lubuntu fans go to #lubuntu-offtopic as well.  As there is usually somebody having a chat in there.22:15
h4wkthank you I will22:15
haddimanIs there a keyboard shortcut for locking the screen or a way to bind one?23:51

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