[02:23] <ChrisDruif> *quite*
[05:02] <stlsaint_> phillw: ping
[05:02] <stlsaint_> i have a bug
[05:03] <stlsaint_> anyone around??
[05:04] <stlsaint_> hey i need to get this bug checked out before i report it
[05:05] <phillw> stlsaint_: well if you hang around for than 10 seconds...
[05:05] <phillw> *for more than*
[05:06] <stlsaint_> phillw: yea but this potential *bug* is really pissing me off as it makes me hard kill my system and its happening quite often now
[05:06] <bioterror> what
[05:07] <stlsaint_> if anyone dares to try it here are the steps:
[05:07] <stlsaint_> 1. Right click panel and select to "Add to panel" option
[05:07] <stlsaint_> 2. Go to "Panel Applets" tab
[05:08] <stlsaint_> 3. Select in the bottom left corner next to virtual desktops the double window "iconify" icon button
[05:08] <stlsaint_> your panel should disappear along with all
[05:08] <stlsaint_> running applications left in background
[05:09] <stlsaint_> one reason why im running now with the nick: stlsaint_ instead of stlsaint
[05:09] <stlsaint_> my irc client was left hanging as i hard kill my system >:|
[05:10] <stlsaint_> if anyone else gets this same response i will file report
[05:13] <phillw> stlsaint_: I'd suggest reporting it to the mailing list.
[05:13] <stlsaint_> mailing list?
[05:14] <stlsaint_> i wouldnt file with apport or launchpad
[05:14] <stlsaint_> im actually looking on lp right now in lubuntu, i dont see how to file bug as with others
[05:15] <stlsaint_> phillw: considering i have had this panel issue with before without performing the same procedures im unsure what the specific component would be,
[05:16] <stlsaint_> i will send to mailing list now but that doesnt offer much in the way of tracking, triaging, etc
[05:16] <phillw> stlsaint_: pop it on to the mailing list
[05:16] <phillw> the devs and techie people will ask you for more details
[05:18]  * phillw bed time for this little piglet, I will see you all later
[07:15] <balsaq> is there such a thing as a lubuntu affiliation
[07:53] <hblount> hi. what is the name of the gui app that lets me search and install software?
[07:59] <JoeMaverickSett> hblount: Synaptics Package Manager or Ubuntu Software Center ?
[08:01] <hblount> oh yeah the latter. thanks
[08:01] <hblount> how do i install that?
[08:06] <bioterror> :D
[08:06] <bioterror> hblount, apt-get is all you need ;D
[08:06] <bioterror> you dont need software center ;)
[08:06] <JoeMaverickSett> hblount: in synaptics, it's called software-center. or sudo apt-get install software-center. :)
[08:06] <bioterror> I've tried that couple of times at my parents-in-law and I've been really "WTF?!"
[08:07] <JoeMaverickSett> hblount: but i'd go with bioterror though. :)
[08:07] <bioterror> JoeMaverickSett, as you always do
[08:07] <bioterror> oh my 'lil follower :D
[08:07] <JoeMaverickSett> bioterror: aye, sir. :P
[08:07] <bioterror> have you managed to put up that cult of bioterror's followers :D
[08:07]  * JoeMaverickSett goes back to his following as the leader is here.
[08:07] <hblount> im too noob
[08:07] <bioterror> hblount, what you want to search
[08:07] <bioterror> we can make few examples
[08:08] <bioterror> to get you up n running with apt-get
[08:08] <JoeMaverickSett> hblount: not noob, just haven't got around to getting to know yet. :)
[08:09] <hblount> and lazy :P
[08:10] <hblount> E: Package 'software-center' has no installation candidate
[08:10] <JoeMaverickSett> :D
[08:10] <hblount> i tried sudo apt-get install software-center
[08:13] <JoeMaverickSett> hblount: well, if that is the case, what it is that you wanted to find or install from software center? or you just wanted the Ubuntu Software Center? :D
[08:14] <jussi> What is the name of the window manager in lxde/lubuntu?
[08:15] <hblount> i want to look at diff stuff and read about em :P
[08:17] <bioterror> jussi, Lubuntu uses OpenBox
[08:19] <bioterror> hblount, I'm trying to figure out a example for you
[08:19] <JoeMaverickSett> bioterror: would you suggest apt-cache show <package> to hblount 's issue? :D /me uses that even on my vanilla ubuntu.
[08:19] <bioterror> yes
[08:19] <bioterror> I use it alot
[08:20] <JoeMaverickSett> :D
[08:20] <bioterror> let's say that I've been upgraded to a project manager
[08:20] <bioterror> and I have to start coordinate some projects
[08:20] <bioterror> and I'm like "hmmm... what software I could use for this..."
[08:22] <bioterror> and I can use apt-cache to show me a software with command "apt-cache search project |grep management"
[08:22] <bioterror> and I see a listing
[08:22] <bioterror> planner - project management application
[08:22] <bioterror> that sounds promising, right?
[08:22] <bioterror> then I can say "apt-cache show planner |less"
[08:22] <bioterror> and I can see something like this
[08:22] <bioterror> Description: project management application
[08:22] <bioterror>  Planner is a Project Management application that supports Gantt charts,
[08:23] <bioterror>  resource allocation and integration with other GNOME applications.
[08:23] <bioterror> and doesnt that Gannt charts sounds promising?
[08:23] <JoeMaverickSett> very promising.
[08:23] <hblount> what is the |less part?
[08:24] <bioterror> hblount, it's same as "|more" but I can scroll with pgup and pgdown
[08:24] <hblount> oh
[08:24] <bioterror> if you want to search for games
[08:25] <bioterror> you can use like "apt-cache search mmorpg
[08:25] <bioterror> "
[08:26] <hblount> cool thanks!
[08:26] <bioterror> anything else in your mind
[08:26] <hblount> which one is the thing that shows cpu temp in taskbar?
[08:26] <bioterror> if you want to find a game that's like lemmings, well, "apt-cache search lemmings"
[08:27] <bioterror> that requires lm-sensors
[08:27] <bioterror> and lubuntu doesnt have that kind of app for taskbar, AFAIK
[08:27] <bioterror> hblount, http://ricecows.org/conky.png but you can configure conky to show that statics for you
[08:30] <hblount> yeah conky cool
[08:34] <hblount> how do i install that?
[08:34] <bioterror> conky?
[08:35] <hblount> yeah
[08:35] <bioterror> sudo apt-get install lm-sensors
[08:35] <bioterror> then sudo sensors-detect
[08:35] <bioterror> answer yes to all questions
[08:36] <hblount> k thx
[08:37] <bioterror> then you need to install conky
[08:37] <hblount> E: Package 'lm-sensors' has no installation candidate....whats that mean?
[08:37] <bioterror> lm-sensors - utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors
[08:37] <bioterror> hmmm
[08:39] <bioterror> hblount, did you just say "sudo apt-get install lm-sensors"?
[08:39] <JoeMaverickSett> :|
[08:41] <bioterror> Wed10:39 <bioterror> hblount, did you just say "sudo apt-get install lm-sensors"?
[08:41] <hblount> yeah
[08:41] <bioterror> that's weird
[08:43] <bioterror> hblount, is your repositories okay
[08:43] <bioterror> have you enable all the repos
[08:43] <bioterror> partners and stuff from the synaptic
[08:43] <hblount> idk. i just installed 10.10 right now with 3rd party software thing checked
[08:44] <bioterror> yeah it's called partners
[08:45] <hblount> same msg when i tried sudo apt-get install software-center
[08:46] <bioterror> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install lm-sensors
[08:47] <hblount> is this update manageer equivalent?
[08:48] <hblount> nm
[08:50] <bioterror> did you update your repository?
[08:50] <hblount> oh now it works! wtf
[08:51] <bioterror> good
[08:51] <hblount> what did i do in the 30min i've had this installed?
[08:51] <bioterror> what
[08:51] <hblount> i installed lubuntu 30min ago
[08:52] <bioterror> okay
[08:52] <bioterror> good
[08:52] <bioterror> sudo apt-get update
[08:52] <bioterror> that's usually suggested to do when you're dealing with packages
[08:52] <bioterror> as you need your repositories to be up-to-date
[08:52] <bioterror> are you now installing lm-sensors? :D
[08:54] <hblount> yeah! thanks bioterror! all nice then turn around and gas a bunch of ppl or what
[08:54] <bioterror> are we going to configure that conky for you or what's in your mind
[08:56] <hblount> Sorry, no sensors were detected.
[08:56] <hblount> This is relatively common on laptops, where thermal management is
[08:56] <bioterror> :o
[08:56] <hblount> handled by ACPI rather than the OS.
[08:56] <bioterror> what kind of laptop are you running then?
[08:56] <bioterror> or what
[08:56] <hblount> i swear i had it on here before
[08:56] <hblount> its an old acer aspire 3613
[08:57] <jussi> hblount: theres some acer modules you can install iirc
[08:57] <jussi> not sure if they are for your model though
[08:58] <hblount> i had something that was a tiny black square on the bottom right in the task bar that had green number with temp as well as little graph looking thing
[08:58] <hblount> jussi: how do i find and install acer modules?
[09:00] <jussi> !find acer
[09:01] <jussi> no bot here?
[09:01] <bioterror> !acer
[09:01] <hblount> !acer
[09:02] <jussi> Ill put her here until we get a more permanent one
[09:02] <jussi> !find acer
[09:02] <bioterror> jussi, nice
[09:03] <jussi> !info acerhk-source
[09:03] <jussi> oh, ubot5is here
[09:03] <jussi> hrrr
[09:03] <jussi> ubottu: part
[09:04] <jussi> though Ive no idea what the acerhk driver is
[09:05] <jussi> This driver will give access to the special keys on notebooks of the  Acer Travelmate series, which are not handled by the keyboard driver.
[09:05] <jussi> It also has some other related functionality (depending on the model):
[09:05] <jussi>    * controlling LEDs (Mail, Wireless)
[09:05] <jussi>    * enable/disable wireless hardware
[09:05] <hblount> dam thats diff from mine
[09:05] <jussi> hblount: mind: It also works on notebooks from other manufacturers (some Medion, Fujitsu-Siemens, Compal, Xbook...).
[09:05] <hblount> i want my horizontal scroll to work on my touchpad :P
[09:06] <jussi> see apt-cache show acerhk-source
[09:07] <hblount> i see. how do i install?
[09:08] <hblount> nm
[09:10] <hblount> wow it seems big
[09:38] <jussi> Hrm, I seem to have lost the networking applet - can someone advise me of the name of it? (ie. the command to start it from alt+f2?)
[09:39] <bioterror> nm-applet
[09:39] <jussi> oh, its using the gnome one :)
[09:40] <bioterror> yeah
[09:40] <bioterror> there's two apps
[09:40] <bioterror> it's wicd or gnome-nm-applet
[09:40] <bioterror> not that much to choose from
[09:41] <jussi> the gnome one is nice withthe presetup 3g stuff :)
[09:41] <bioterror> yes
[09:42] <bioterror> wicd is without gnome :)
[09:42] <jussi> and is lubuntu using ayatana notifications or ?
[09:43] <bioterror> dunno about that
[09:46] <jussi> ahh, its just the notification-daemon :)
[20:04] <craigbass1976> My computer is a turd, and I put LXDE on it to help speed things up.  Things are sitll slow. One item I was curious about was the gnome-system-monitor.  Why would this be running with lxde being my desktop?
[20:04] <craigbass1976> And can I safely kill it?
[20:05] <Yorvyk> yep
[20:05] <bioterror> could you please specify your situation more
[20:05] <bioterror> you've a ubuntu installation and you installed just lxde or lubuntu-desktop or what
[20:05] <craigbass1976> bioterror, It was a regular ubuntu install, then I grabbed the lubuntu-desktop
[20:05] <stlsaint> sup folks
[20:06] <stlsaint> craigbass1976: well that explains why you have gnome running! :D
[20:06] <bioterror> craigbass1976, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde
[20:07] <craigbass1976> bioterror, how different do you suppose the lucid version would be?
[20:07] <bioterror> sudo apt-get remove gnome\*
[20:07] <stlsaint> bioterror: oh thats a nice little tut
[20:07] <bioterror> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[20:08] <stlsaint> lol, thats one heck of a one-liner
[20:08] <bioterror> rather sudo apt-get purge :D
[20:08] <craigbass1976> meh?   all three?
[20:11] <craigbass1976> I'm looking through my bash history, and I really have no idea how lxde ended up on here in the first place; maybe it was a clean install and I junked it up afterward...
[20:12] <craigbass1976> bioterror, thanks, I'll run those and see what happens
[20:12] <bioterror> craigbass1976, keep wired connection near you
[20:12] <bioterror> if you happen to loose wlan connection or something
[20:12] <bioterror> if you're using laptop
[20:12] <bioterror> or wi-fi at all
[20:13] <craigbass1976> bioterror, I'm on a wire already.
[20:13] <bioterror> nice
[20:13] <craigbass1976> bioterror, and I probably shouldn't be in the GUI while Im doing this, should I...
[20:14] <bioterror> well
[20:14] <bioterror> doesnt matter if you're doing it from lubuntu :D
[20:14] <bioterror> but yeah
[20:14] <bioterror> I usually do it from console
[20:14] <craigbass1976> Ok; see you folks later.
[20:14] <bioterror> :)
[20:14] <bioterror> clean system he shall have
[20:15] <bioterror> I hope so
[21:33] <craigbass1976> bioterror, I'm all set now, things are a bit quicker.  Is there anyway to set spacer width?  Even at 0, it kind of fills a wide space.  I've read about turning stretch on and off, but I don't see where I can do that.
[21:33] <craigbass1976> Anyone know of a way to get four desktops in the pager, rather than two?
[21:35] <craigbass1976> Forget the first question, I see how to unstretch things
[21:37] <Yorvyk> craigbass1976, Prefs > openbox config manager > desktops
[21:38] <craigbass1976> Yorvyk, awesome.
[22:10] <h4wk> hi everyone
[22:10] <h4wk> :D
[22:11] <Yorvyk> hi
[22:12] <h4wk> I love Lubuntu and from now on I will come here more often
[22:15] <Yorvyk> h4wk, if you want to meet other Lubuntu fans go to #lubuntu-offtopic as well.  As there is usually somebody having a chat in there.
[22:15] <h4wk> thank you I will
[23:51] <haddiman> Is there a keyboard shortcut for locking the screen or a way to bind one?