| firtvid20 | Hello | 00:36 |
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| thisara | nisshh: Hi | 06:14 |
| thisara | nisshh: are u there | 06:14 |
| thisara | anyone out there | 06:15 |
| thisara | what is BSSID ? | 06:15 |
| gggs | thisara: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=BSSID | 06:16 |
| thisara | gggs: how to fine BSSID | 06:17 |
| thisara | gggs: I just installed Kububtu. Now stuck in setting up internet connection | 06:17 |
| nisshh | thisara, hey | 06:24 |
| thisara | nisshh: hi | 06:24 |
| thisara | nisshh: got another problem | 06:24 |
| nisshh | right | 06:24 |
| thisara | nisshh: I installed Kubuntu in my laptop | 06:25 |
| nisshh | yeah | 06:25 |
| nisshh | and you cant get the net working? | 06:25 |
| thisara | nisshh: but cant connect to internet | 06:25 |
| nisshh | whats wrong? it doesnt do it automatically? | 06:25 |
| thisara | nisshh: yes. | 06:25 |
| thisara | nisshh: what is BSSID | 06:25 |
| nisshh | wait | 06:25 |
| nisshh | yes? | 06:26 |
| nisshh | yes what? | 06:26 |
| thisara | nisshh: BSSID number . Basic Service Set Identifier | 06:26 |
| nisshh | thisara, no, no, i know what BSSID is | 06:27 |
| nisshh | thisara, so i said "doesnt it connect automatically?" and you said "yes" and that confused me... | 06:27 |
| thisara | nisshh: ohh sorry | 06:27 |
| thisara | nisshh: it doesnt connect automatically. Becase I have a wireless router at home. which is password enable | 06:28 |
| nisshh | right | 06:28 |
| nisshh | so you have a WPA key | 06:28 |
| thisara | nisshh: It can find my wireless network. | 06:28 |
| nisshh | so i think in KDE you connect to the network and then enter your key, right? | 06:28 |
| thisara | nisshh: I typed password. | 06:28 |
| nisshh | yeah | 06:29 |
| thisara | nisshh: yes | 06:29 |
| thisara | nisshh: but it doesnt connect to internet | 06:30 |
| nisshh | oh? what does it do? anything? | 06:30 |
| thisara | nisshh: I left blank under BSSID. I think I need to enter that. | 06:30 |
| nisshh | oh right | 06:30 |
| thisara | nisshh: since I cant access internet now I logged into Windows for finding some help | 06:31 |
| nisshh | thisara, so whats the problem? your BSSID should be listed in your router settings | 06:31 |
| thisara | nisshh: thats the thing. How to find that ? | 06:31 |
| nisshh | thisara, just curious, why are you trying out KDE? | 06:32 |
| thisara | nisshh: good question. I didn't have any idea. I just wanted to try it since I am new. | 06:32 |
| nisshh | oh right | 06:32 |
| thisara | nisshh: anything wrong with KDE ..??? | 06:32 |
| nisshh | that *may* not be a good idea | 06:32 |
| nisshh | no, KDE is great | 06:33 |
| thisara | nisshh: Ok. then whts wrong with KDE | 06:33 |
| nisshh | but if you liked normal Ubuntu i dont see why you need to try anything else until you are confortable using Ubuntu and Linux in general | 06:33 |
| thisara | nisshh: good point. I read some reviews in the internet and it said KDE much userfriendly for users moving from Windows to Linux. Since I am idiot of Linux I thought it would be better | 06:34 |
| nisshh | yeah | 06:35 |
| nisshh | reviews can be misleading to new Linux users | 06:35 |
| thisara | nisshh: In your view what you see bad in KDE and good in Ubuntu | 06:35 |
| nisshh | while KDE is great, i suggest you dont just go trying everything until you know the basics | 06:35 |
| nisshh | i actually rather like KDE | 06:35 |
| nisshh | i just prefer GNOME | 06:35 |
| thisara | nisshh: KDE and Ububtu not same | 06:35 |
| thisara | nisshh: is that ? | 06:36 |
| nisshh | KDE and GNOME are desktop environments, thisara | 06:36 |
| nisshh | Ubuntu and Kubuntu are distributions | 06:36 |
| nisshh | Kubuntu being a flavor of Ubuntu | 06:36 |
| thisara | nisshh: sorry again stupid question. what is the difference between distributions and desktop environments | 06:37 |
| nisshh | ok | 06:37 |
| nisshh | this could be a long discussion :) | 06:37 |
| nisshh | so a distribution | 06:38 |
| nisshh | is a collection of software that is distributed together | 06:38 |
| nisshh | there are many different ones | 06:38 |
| nisshh | and some have several flavors | 06:38 |
| nisshh | such as | 06:38 |
| nisshh | Ubuntu has Kubuntu, Xubuntu flavors | 06:39 |
| nisshh | so all three are the same | 06:39 |
| nisshh | except for the desktop environment | 06:39 |
| thisara | nisshh: got it | 06:39 |
| nisshh | the desktop environment is basically the GUI you use | 06:39 |
| nisshh | ok | 06:39 |
| thisara | nisshh: thats fine good answer | 06:39 |
| thisara | nisshh: which means ububtu has higher flexibility in doing things rathe KDE | 06:40 |
| thisara | nisshh: is that ?? | 06:40 |
| nisshh | no, it doesnt | 06:40 |
| nisshh | the only difference is | 06:40 |
| nisshh | Ubuntu comes with the GNOME desktop environment | 06:40 |
| nisshh | and Kubuntu comes with the KDE desktop environment | 06:41 |
| nisshh | that and all the default applications are different | 06:41 |
| thisara | nisshh: which means two different developers | 06:41 |
| nisshh | urhm, sort of yes | 06:42 |
| thisara | nisshh: then what is Xubuntu ? | 06:42 |
| nisshh | Xubuntu is the same as the other two | 06:42 |
| nisshh | except it includes the XFCE desktop environment, and its default apps are also different | 06:42 |
| thisara | nisshh: ok | 06:43 |
| thisara | nisshh: I wonder why there are so many desktop environments and distributions. which confuse a new comer to Linux. | 06:43 |
| thisara | nisshh: like me..alwys confuse wht to chose. | 06:44 |
| nisshh | its just the way it is, it gives users choice, which is good for some people, unhelpful for others :) | 06:44 |
| thisara | nisshh: OK. for an example I didnt see Synoptic Package manager in the KDE | 06:45 |
| thisara | nisshh: am I correct ? | 06:45 |
| nisshh | yeah | 06:45 |
| nisshh | synaptic is a package manager frontend | 06:45 |
| nisshh | KDE's frontend is called kpackagekit | 06:46 |
| nisshh | and i cant remember XFCE's one | 06:46 |
| thisara | nisshh: so do you think is it tedious to remove KDE and re-install Ubuntu ? | 06:46 |
| nisshh | urhm, yes, but in your case no | 06:47 |
| nisshh | i think you will be better off with normal Ubuntu | 06:47 |
| nisshh | GNOME is more user friendly with newbies :) | 06:47 |
| thisara | nisshh: I have windows also in my laptop. so I worry I will damage the windows if I try to remove KDE | 06:47 |
| nisshh | thisara, so let me get this straight, did you install Ubuntu, then Kubuntu? or just Ubuntu then add KDE to it? | 06:48 |
| MaxEeePsycho | terminal -> sudo apt-get install synaptic ..should run in kde | 06:48 |
| nisshh | MaxEeePsycho, yeah, hang on a sec :) | 06:48 |
| thisara | nisshh: I just installed KDE. thats all | 06:49 |
| MaxEeePsycho | don't worry, i'm slow | 06:49 |
| nisshh | thisara, ok, well, could you please boot into KDE or whatever and open a terminal and execute this command: cat /etc/lsb-release | 06:50 |
| nisshh | that will tell me what your using | 06:50 |
| nisshh | and what you should do next to get back into GNOME | 06:50 |
| thisara | nisshh: Ok. but if I quit windows now I will loose this chat | 06:51 |
| thisara | nisshh: becase there is no internet in Kubuntu | 06:51 |
| nisshh | thisara, ok, wait a sec then | 06:52 |
| thisara | nisshh: By the way can you help me how to find the BSSID of my wireless router. | 06:52 |
| nisshh | thisara, ok, one thing at a time | 06:52 |
| thisara | nisshh: then I can go to KDE and connect again | 06:52 |
| nisshh | lets get you net on KDE :) | 06:52 |
| nisshh | so | 06:52 |
| thisara | nisshh: yup | 06:52 |
| nisshh | thisara, what make/model is your wireless router? | 06:52 |
| thisara | nisshh: D link | 06:53 |
| nisshh | thisara, a d link what? what model? | 06:54 |
| thisara | nisshh: DSL-G604T | 06:55 |
| nisshh | ok, give me a minute | 06:55 |
| thisara | nisshh: also there are some other numbers | 06:55 |
| nisshh | thisara, yeah, ignore those | 06:56 |
| nisshh | thisara, ok, open a web browser (on windows) | 06:56 |
| nisshh | and in the URL bar | 06:56 |
| nisshh | type this exactly: 192.168.0.1 | 06:56 |
| thisara | nisshh:ok | 06:56 |
| nisshh | and hit enter | 06:56 |
| thisara | nisshh: ok | 06:57 |
| nisshh | does anything come up? | 06:57 |
| nisshh | eh... | 06:58 |
| gggs | lol | 06:59 |
| thisara | nisshh: sorry got stuck with internet. had to refresh firefox | 07:00 |
| nisshh | heh | 07:00 |
| thisara | nisshh: cant access 192.168.0.1 | 07:01 |
| nisshh | ok | 07:01 |
| nisshh | that is odd | 07:01 |
| nisshh | thisara, look on the back of your router, does it have an IP address and a username and password listed on it? | 07:01 |
| nisshh | thisara, also, do you manage your router? or does someone else? | 07:02 |
| thisara | nisshh: my friend manage it | 07:02 |
| nisshh | oh | 07:03 |
| nisshh | ok | 07:03 |
| nisshh | urhm | 07:03 |
| thisara | nisshh: I know only the username and password | 07:03 |
| nisshh | oh | 07:03 |
| thisara | nisshh: wait I will back u in a moment | 07:03 |
| nisshh | ok | 07:03 |
| thisara | nisshh: discuss with friend and get all the details | 07:04 |
| nisshh | thisara, get hold of your friend, tell him you need the BSSID of your router | 07:04 |
| nisshh | yeah | 07:04 |
| thisara | nisshh: ok I will | 07:04 |
| nisshh | him/her rather :) | 07:04 |
| thisara | nisshh: her | 07:04 |
| thisara | nisshh: give me few minutes | 07:05 |
| gggs | nisshh: that's some bash.org material right there, I actually lol'ed | 07:06 |
| gggs | s/open a web browser/open a NEW browser window | 07:08 |
| nisshh | gggs, lol | 07:20 |
| gggs | maybe he/she got it working after all | 07:25 |
| thisara | nisshh: opps. I fed up with KDE | 07:29 |
| thisara | nisshh: forget about BSSID | 07:29 |
| thisara | nisshh: Let me know how easy I can remove KDE and back to Ubuntu | 07:30 |
| nisshh | thisara, well, it depends if you installed full Kubuntu or just KDE on Ubuntu :) | 07:40 |
| nisshh | if you installed full Kubuntu, then you will need to completely reinstall Ubuntu | 07:41 |
| nisshh | if you installed KDE by itself, just log out and select GNOME or Ubuntu Desktop Edition from the bottom middle sessions menu | 07:42 |
| thisara | nisshh: I install KDE. there were no Ubuntu | 07:46 |
| thisara | nisshh: I think I ran the complete installation | 07:47 |
| nisshh | ok | 07:47 |
| thisara | nisshh: so should I uninstall it or should I run Ubuntu installation | 07:47 |
| nisshh | then you need to reinstall Ubuntu using an Ubuntu ISO | 07:47 |
| thisara | nisshh: does it remove KDE ? | 07:48 |
| nisshh | if you install Ubuntu over Kubuntu, there is no Kubuntu, it gets wiped | 07:48 |
| nisshh | there will *only* be Ubuntu, *no* Kubuntu at *all* :) | 07:49 |
| thisara | nisshh: Ok good. I will do so | 07:52 |
| thisara | nisshh: Once again sorry for so many basic questions | 07:52 |
| nisshh | np :) | 07:54 |
| nisshh | elky, your alive! | 07:55 |
| nisshh | :) | 07:55 |
| thisara | nisshh: going to logout. reinstall ubuntu. catch u another time. thanks .bye | 07:58 |
| woobuntu | hello | 10:12 |
| woobuntu | anyone's on ? :-) | 10:13 |
| Changlinn | there are always people here | 11:12 |
| Changlinn | woobuntu: couldn't wait | 11:12 |
| thisara | hi anyone out there | 15:09 |
| thisara | nisshh: are u there | 15:10 |
| thisara | nisshh: I have 'ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso' . can I extract it and run wubi to install Ubuntu | 15:11 |
| skwashd | elky: ping | 22:30 |
| iflema | blist online | 23:30 |
| iflema | urgh | 23:30 |
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