[00:36] <firtvid20> Hello
[06:14] <thisara> nisshh: Hi
[06:14] <thisara> nisshh: are u there 
[06:15] <thisara> anyone out there
[06:15] <thisara> what is BSSID ?
[06:16] <gggs> thisara: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=BSSID
[06:17] <thisara> gggs: how to fine BSSID
[06:17] <thisara> gggs: I just installed Kububtu. Now stuck in setting up internet connection 
[06:24] <nisshh> thisara, hey
[06:24] <thisara> nisshh: hi
[06:24] <thisara> nisshh: got another problem 
[06:24] <nisshh> right
[06:25] <thisara> nisshh: I installed Kubuntu in my laptop
[06:25] <nisshh> yeah
[06:25] <nisshh> and you cant get the net working?
[06:25] <thisara> nisshh: but cant connect to internet
[06:25] <nisshh> whats wrong? it doesnt do it automatically?
[06:25] <thisara> nisshh: yes.
[06:25] <thisara> nisshh: what is BSSID
[06:25] <nisshh> wait
[06:26] <nisshh> yes?
[06:26] <nisshh> yes what?
[06:26] <thisara> nisshh: BSSID number . Basic Service Set Identifier
[06:27] <nisshh> thisara, no, no, i know what BSSID is
[06:27] <nisshh> thisara, so i said "doesnt it connect automatically?" and you said "yes" and that confused me...
[06:27] <thisara> nisshh: ohh sorry
[06:28] <thisara> nisshh: it doesnt connect automatically. Becase I have a wireless router at home. which is password enable
[06:28] <nisshh> right
[06:28] <nisshh> so you have a WPA key
[06:28] <thisara> nisshh: It can find my wireless network.
[06:28] <nisshh> so i think in KDE you connect to the network and then enter your key, right?
[06:28] <thisara> nisshh: I typed password.
[06:29] <nisshh> yeah
[06:29] <thisara> nisshh: yes
[06:30] <thisara> nisshh: but it doesnt connect to internet
[06:30] <nisshh> oh? what does it do? anything?
[06:30] <thisara> nisshh: I left blank under BSSID. I think I need to enter that. 
[06:30] <nisshh> oh right
[06:31] <thisara> nisshh: since I cant access internet now I logged into Windows for finding some help
[06:31] <nisshh> thisara, so whats the problem? your BSSID should be listed in your router settings
[06:31] <thisara> nisshh: thats the thing. How to find that ?
[06:32] <nisshh> thisara, just curious, why are you trying out KDE?
[06:32] <thisara> nisshh: good question. I didn't have any idea. I just wanted to try it since I am new. 
[06:32] <nisshh> oh right
[06:32] <thisara> nisshh: anything wrong with KDE ..???
[06:32] <nisshh> that *may* not be a good idea
[06:33] <nisshh> no, KDE is great
[06:33] <thisara> nisshh: Ok. then whts wrong with KDE
[06:33] <nisshh> but if you liked normal Ubuntu i dont see why you need to try anything else until you are confortable using Ubuntu and Linux in general
[06:34] <thisara> nisshh: good point. I read some reviews in the internet and it said KDE much userfriendly for users moving from Windows to Linux. Since I am idiot of Linux I thought it would be better
[06:35] <nisshh> yeah
[06:35] <nisshh> reviews can be misleading to new Linux users
[06:35] <thisara> nisshh: In your view what you see bad in KDE and good in Ubuntu
[06:35] <nisshh> while KDE is great, i suggest you dont just go trying everything until you know the basics
[06:35] <nisshh> i actually rather like KDE
[06:35] <nisshh> i just prefer GNOME
[06:35] <thisara> nisshh: KDE and Ububtu not same
[06:36] <thisara> nisshh: is that ?
[06:36] <nisshh> KDE and GNOME are desktop environments, thisara
[06:36] <nisshh> Ubuntu and Kubuntu are distributions
[06:36] <nisshh> Kubuntu being a flavor of Ubuntu
[06:37] <thisara> nisshh: sorry again stupid question. what is the difference between distributions and desktop environments
[06:37] <nisshh> ok
[06:37] <nisshh> this could be a long discussion :)
[06:38] <nisshh> so a distribution
[06:38] <nisshh> is a collection of software that is distributed together
[06:38] <nisshh> there are many different ones
[06:38] <nisshh> and some have several flavors
[06:38] <nisshh> such as
[06:39] <nisshh> Ubuntu has Kubuntu, Xubuntu flavors
[06:39] <nisshh> so all three are the same
[06:39] <nisshh> except for the desktop environment
[06:39] <thisara> nisshh: got it
[06:39] <nisshh> the desktop environment is basically the GUI you use
[06:39] <nisshh> ok
[06:39] <thisara> nisshh: thats fine good answer
[06:40] <thisara> nisshh: which means ububtu has higher flexibility in doing things rathe KDE
[06:40] <thisara> nisshh: is that ??
[06:40] <nisshh> no, it doesnt
[06:40] <nisshh> the only difference is
[06:40] <nisshh> Ubuntu comes with the GNOME desktop environment
[06:41] <nisshh> and Kubuntu comes with the KDE desktop environment
[06:41] <nisshh> that and all the default applications are different
[06:41] <thisara> nisshh: which means two different developers 
[06:42] <nisshh> urhm, sort of yes
[06:42] <thisara> nisshh: then what is Xubuntu ?
[06:42] <nisshh> Xubuntu is the same as the other two
[06:42] <nisshh> except it includes the XFCE desktop environment, and its default apps are also different
[06:43] <thisara> nisshh: ok
[06:43] <thisara> nisshh: I wonder why there are so many desktop environments and distributions. which confuse a new comer to Linux.
[06:44] <thisara> nisshh: like me..alwys confuse wht to chose.
[06:44] <nisshh> its just the way it is, it gives users choice, which is good for some people, unhelpful for others :)
[06:45] <thisara> nisshh: OK. for an example I didnt see Synoptic Package manager in the KDE
[06:45] <thisara> nisshh: am I correct ?
[06:45] <nisshh> yeah
[06:45] <nisshh> synaptic is a package manager frontend
[06:46] <nisshh> KDE's frontend is called kpackagekit
[06:46] <nisshh> and i cant remember XFCE's one
[06:46] <thisara> nisshh: so do you think is it tedious to remove KDE and re-install Ubuntu ?
[06:47] <nisshh> urhm, yes, but in your case no
[06:47] <nisshh> i think you will be better off with normal Ubuntu
[06:47] <nisshh> GNOME is more user friendly with newbies :)
[06:47] <thisara> nisshh: I have windows also in my laptop. so I worry I will damage the windows if I try to remove KDE
[06:48] <nisshh> thisara, so let me get this straight, did you install Ubuntu, then Kubuntu? or just Ubuntu then add KDE to it?
[06:48] <MaxEeePsycho> terminal -> sudo apt-get install synaptic  ..should run in kde
[06:48] <nisshh> MaxEeePsycho, yeah, hang on a sec :)
[06:49] <thisara> nisshh: I just installed KDE. thats all
[06:49] <MaxEeePsycho> don't worry, i'm slow
[06:50] <nisshh> thisara, ok, well, could you please boot into KDE or whatever and open a terminal and execute this command: cat /etc/lsb-release
[06:50] <nisshh> that will tell me what your using
[06:50] <nisshh> and what you should do next to get back into GNOME
[06:51] <thisara> nisshh: Ok. but if I quit windows now I will loose this chat
[06:51] <thisara> nisshh: becase there is no internet in Kubuntu
[06:52] <nisshh> thisara, ok, wait a sec then
[06:52] <thisara> nisshh: By the way can you help me how to find the BSSID of my wireless router.
[06:52] <nisshh> thisara, ok, one thing at a time
[06:52] <thisara> nisshh: then I can go to KDE and connect again
[06:52] <nisshh> lets get you net on KDE :)
[06:52] <nisshh> so
[06:52] <thisara> nisshh: yup
[06:52] <nisshh> thisara, what make/model is your wireless router?
[06:53] <thisara> nisshh: D link
[06:54] <nisshh> thisara, a d link what? what model?
[06:55] <thisara> nisshh: DSL-G604T
[06:55] <nisshh> ok, give me a minute
[06:55] <thisara> nisshh: also there are some other numbers
[06:56] <nisshh> thisara, yeah, ignore those
[06:56] <nisshh> thisara, ok, open a web browser (on windows)
[06:56] <nisshh> and in the URL bar
[06:56] <nisshh> type this exactly: 192.168.0.1
[06:56] <thisara> nisshh:ok
[06:56] <nisshh> and hit enter
[06:57] <thisara> nisshh: ok
[06:57] <nisshh> does anything come up?
[06:58] <nisshh> eh...
[06:59] <gggs> lol
[07:00] <thisara> nisshh: sorry got stuck with internet. had to refresh firefox
[07:00] <nisshh> heh
[07:01] <thisara> nisshh: cant access 192.168.0.1
[07:01] <nisshh> ok
[07:01] <nisshh> that is odd
[07:01] <nisshh> thisara, look on the back of your router, does it have an IP address and a username and password listed on it?
[07:02] <nisshh> thisara, also, do you manage your router? or does someone else?
[07:02] <thisara> nisshh: my friend manage it
[07:03] <nisshh> oh
[07:03] <nisshh> ok
[07:03] <nisshh> urhm
[07:03] <thisara> nisshh: I know only the username and password
[07:03] <nisshh> oh
[07:03] <thisara> nisshh: wait I will back u in a moment
[07:03] <nisshh> ok
[07:04] <thisara> nisshh: discuss with friend and get all the details
[07:04] <nisshh> thisara, get hold of your friend, tell him you need the BSSID of your router
[07:04] <nisshh> yeah
[07:04] <thisara> nisshh: ok I will
[07:04] <nisshh> him/her rather :)
[07:04] <thisara> nisshh: her
[07:05] <thisara> nisshh: give me few minutes
[07:06] <gggs> nisshh: that's some bash.org material right there, I actually lol'ed
[07:08] <gggs> s/open a web browser/open a NEW browser window
[07:20] <nisshh> gggs, lol
[07:25] <gggs> maybe he/she got it working after all
[07:29] <thisara> nisshh: opps. I fed up with KDE
[07:29] <thisara> nisshh: forget about BSSID
[07:30] <thisara> nisshh: Let me know how easy I can remove KDE and back to Ubuntu
[07:40] <nisshh> thisara, well, it depends if you installed full Kubuntu or just KDE on Ubuntu :)
[07:41] <nisshh> if you installed full Kubuntu, then you will need to completely reinstall Ubuntu
[07:42] <nisshh> if you installed KDE by itself, just log out and select GNOME or Ubuntu Desktop Edition from the bottom middle sessions menu
[07:46] <thisara> nisshh: I install KDE. there were no Ubuntu
[07:47] <thisara> nisshh: I think I ran the complete installation
[07:47] <nisshh> ok
[07:47] <thisara> nisshh: so should I uninstall it or should I run Ubuntu installation 
[07:47] <nisshh> then you need to reinstall Ubuntu using an Ubuntu ISO
[07:48] <thisara> nisshh: does it remove KDE ?
[07:48] <nisshh> if you install Ubuntu over Kubuntu, there is no Kubuntu, it gets wiped
[07:49] <nisshh> there will *only* be Ubuntu, *no* Kubuntu at *all* :)
[07:52] <thisara> nisshh: Ok good. I will do so
[07:52] <thisara> nisshh: Once again sorry for so many basic questions
[07:54] <nisshh> np :)
[07:55] <nisshh> elky, your alive!
[07:55] <nisshh> :)
[07:58] <thisara> nisshh: going to logout. reinstall ubuntu. catch u another time. thanks .bye
[10:12] <woobuntu> hello 
[10:13] <woobuntu> anyone's on ? :-)
[11:12] <Changlinn> there are always people here
[11:12] <Changlinn> woobuntu: couldn't wait
[15:09] <thisara> hi anyone out there
[15:10] <thisara> nisshh: are u there
[15:11] <thisara> nisshh: I have  'ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso' . can I extract it and run wubi to install Ubuntu
[22:30] <skwashd> elky: ping
[23:30] <iflema> blist online
[23:30] <iflema> urgh