| bcurtiswx | kenvandine_, is my desktop not supposed to work at all with the GNOME3 PPA ? | 14:53 |
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| bcurtiswx | I get top panel, and thats it | 14:53 |
| bcurtiswx | nautilus: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-3.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 14:54 |
| bcurtiswx | anyone know how i search for what package contains that file ? | 14:56 |
| bcurtiswx | apt-cache search ? | 14:56 |
| micahg | bcurtiswx: apt-file | 14:58 |
| bcurtiswx | micahg, ty | 14:58 |
| milanbv | bcurtiswx: of course, this file comes from libgtk3.0 | 15:01 |
| hyperair | any dbus-glib gurus around? | 15:24 |
| hyperair | when a server allocates a crapload of memory to pass into dbus (e.g. client calls a method or something), who frees it? | 15:25 |
| hyperair | dbus? | 15:25 |
| hyperair | or the server application itself? | 15:25 |
| bcurtiswx | ldd /usr/bin/nautilus | grep libgtk-x11-3.0.so.0 could someone using natty give me their output ? | 15:49 |
| bcurtiswx | micahg, ^^ | 15:53 |
| bcurtiswx | anyone know if there's a way for me to DL that file on its own to put where the computer thinks it should be ? | 15:59 |
| bcurtiswx | ricotz, are you using the GNOME3 Team PPA currently ? | 16:05 |
| ricotz | bcurtiswx, currently not | 16:12 |
| bcurtiswx | ricotz, OK, the libgtk3.0 files you have in the GNOME3 PPA somehow aren't installing libgtk-x11-3.0.so.0 | 16:13 |
| bcurtiswx | ricotz, nautilus requires that file to run, so I can't do anything with nautilus | 16:13 |
| bcurtiswx | ricotz, do you know how I might be able to download that .so file and put it where nautilus wants ? | 16:14 |
| ricotz | bcurtiswx, iirc, this x11 lib wont be built anymore, there will be only libgtk-3.0, so nautilus and its deps need a rebuild/update | 16:17 |
| bcurtiswx | ricotz, i have a nautilus update available but it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop :( i wouldn't know how to fix it to make it install | 16:18 |
| ricotz | bcurtiswx, have you installed all the packages of the gnome3 ppa? | 16:19 |
| bcurtiswx | ricotz, yup | 16:19 |
| bcurtiswx | ricotz, thats the only one that wants to remove ubuntu-desktop | 16:20 |
| bcurtiswx | wait a second | 16:20 |
| ricotz | bcurtiswx, and a local rebuild of 2.91.6 against gtk+2.91.8~ doesnt work | 16:20 |
| bcurtiswx | no i did a apt-cache policy nautilus and it said it wasn't installed... but gosh if i remember any updates removing it... well hey.. problem solved i hope | 16:21 |
| ricotz | also g-s-d migth have some problems | 16:22 |
| bcurtiswx | that why i was assuming it was installed.. i make every effort on upgrades to not remove anything (i typically use apt-get update for that reason) | 16:22 |
| bcurtiswx | lol, ok check that,.. nvm | 16:22 |
| bcurtiswx | im on the wrong ssh | 16:22 |
| bcurtiswx | im battin 0.000 so far | 16:23 |
| bcurtiswx | ricotz, Installed: 1:2.91.4-0ubuntu1~build1 Candidate: 1:2.91.4-0ubuntu1~build2 | 16:23 |
| ricotz | that wont work ;) | 16:24 |
| bcurtiswx | ricotz, :( no later version will either? | 16:24 |
| ricotz | i think 2.91.6 should work | 16:25 |
| bcurtiswx | ricotz, is that in a PPA ? | 16:25 |
| ricotz | you added the right ppa? | 16:25 |
| ricotz | yes it is | 16:25 |
| ricotz | ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3 | 16:25 |
| bcurtiswx | ricotz, yeah, thats the one i got | 16:27 |
| ricotz | oh this build failed | 16:27 |
| bcurtiswx | ricotz, still. i should get the one that it has which if 2.91.6.. right? | 16:28 |
| ricotz | yes | 16:28 |
| bcurtiswx | ricotz, i have the PPA but its not getting the new packages... any idea on how to diagnose why ? | 16:28 |
| ricotz | as i said i just noticed the 2.91.6 built failed | 16:29 |
| bcurtiswx | ricotz, oh, i was asking if the one previous to that was a 2.91.6 or 2.91.5 that i don't have | 16:29 |
| ricotz | you need the 2.91.6 to work with gtk2.91.7+ | 16:30 |
| bcurtiswx | ricotz, the build in the PPA failed due to a missing dep, which according to apt-cache search doesn't exist and an apt-cache show says its virtual | 16:32 |
| bcurtiswx | gir1.0-pango-1.0 | 16:33 |
| bcurtiswx | ricotz, maybe remove the dep ? | 16:33 |
| bcurtiswx | ricotz, its not seeing package in the PPA.. im gonna retry that build | 16:34 |
| bcurtiswx | it should see them. | 16:34 |
| ricotz | bcurtiswx, i pushed an update | 16:40 |
| bcurtiswx | ricotz, OK. i'll look for the changelog | 16:41 |
| bcurtiswx | ricotz, FTBFS on that build. | 17:00 |
| bcurtiswx | ricotz, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/61394207/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-amd64.nautilus_1%3A2.91.6-0ubuntu1~build2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 17:00 |
| ricotz | bcurtiswx, yeah, i see, i forgot to rename the nautilus gir package | 17:03 |
| ricotz | bcurtiswx, you are also a member of gnome3-team? | 17:05 |
| bcurtiswx | ricotz, yes | 17:06 |
| ricotz | so you can fix it yourself ;) | 17:06 |
| bcurtiswx | ricotz, yup, but i didn't know that the buil fail was due to a package rename.. im still learning that type of stuff :) | 17:06 |
| ricotz | i hope ~build3 will do | 17:07 |
| bcurtiswx | ricotz, the package shouldn' be gir1.0-nautilus-2.0 but gir1.2-nautilus-2.0? | 17:08 |
| ricotz | actually gir1.2-nautilus-3.0 | 17:08 |
| bcurtiswx | ricotz, the 3.0 is for the gtk version ? | 17:08 |
| ricotz | no, the nautilus version | 17:08 |
| bcurtiswx | ricotz, 2.91.x is the 3.0 set.. yes.. sry :) | 17:09 |
| ricotz | right | 17:09 |
| bcurtiswx | anyone know how I would go about finding out how to see why nautilus wants to remove ubuntu-desktop.. aptitude why says ubuntu-desktop depends on nautilus, so why would it avoid an upgrade ? | 17:42 |
| geser | "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop nautilus" and see where apt-get complains | 17:53 |
| geser | you might need to repeat it with additional packages till you see the real conflict | 17:54 |
| ricotz | bcurtiswx, it is nautilus-sendto which needs to be remove and ubuntu-desktop depends on it | 17:58 |
| ricotz | so removing them will solve the problem | 17:58 |
| bcurtiswx | ricotz, i don't have nautilus-sendto | 17:59 |
| ricotz | try to use aptitude which is quite comportable to use to figure these things out | 18:00 |
| bcurtiswx | ricotz, ubuntu-desktop needs to not depend on nautilus-sendto, would it be appropriate to make a GNOME3 PPA build of ubuntu-desktop that doesn't depend on nautilus-sendto ? | 18:03 |
| ricotz | bcurtiswx, just remove it for testing purposes, ubuntu-desktop is only a meta-package to pull in all needed stuff | 18:04 |
| GunnarHj | geser: Hi Michael, did my mail-reply yesterday make sense? | 18:11 |
| geser | yes | 18:12 |
| geser | GunnarHj: I have in the gdm login dialog "English (Ireland)" selected for a long time already. Don't if it matters in the upgrade, but I've also auto-login enabled. It was easier for me to edit .dmrc instead of figuring out which tool I need to use | 18:18 |
| geser | and I've "customized" my Ubuntu for my need so my installation and also usage isn't very typical | 18:20 |
| GunnarHj | geser: I see. Sounds like I don't need to worry to much then. | 18:26 |
| bcurtiswx | ricotz, do you have libgtk-x11-3.0.so.0 still in /usr/lib ? | 18:27 |
| geser | GunnarHj: as I wasn't sure if it's a problem for others too (a bug) or not, I mailed you instead of filing a bug | 18:27 |
| GunnarHj | geser: Ok. Guess we'll get to know in the next few weeks. | 18:29 |
| GunnarHj | geser: The ambition was to prevent undesired surprises as far as possible, but obviously we didn't catch all cases. ;-) | 18:30 |
| bcurtiswx | anyone here using natty have /usr/lib/gtk-x11-3.0.so.0 and /usr/lib/gdk-x11-3.0.so.0 ? | 18:43 |
| bcurtiswx | i would like to request that someone send them to me in e-mail so I can have them for the time being until other programs are built without them appropriately | 18:43 |
| ricotz | bcurtiswx, these file arent available anymore | 18:44 |
| ricotz | is nautilus still complaining about it | 18:44 |
| ricotz | ? | 18:44 |
| bcurtiswx | ricotz, yes | 18:44 |
| ricotz | is it nautilus or another dependency? | 18:45 |
| bcurtiswx | i type nautilus in the terminal and it doesn't like that those files aren't available | 18:45 |
| ricotz | ldd /usr/bin/nautilus contains the gdk/gtk-x11 lib? | 18:47 |
| bcurtiswx | ricotz, yes sir says its not found, but looks for it | 18:47 |
| ricotz | ok :), i didnt installed it myself and i am a bit afraid to do so | 18:48 |
| bcurtiswx | ricotz, as a workaround if i can get those files i can get things to work | 18:48 |
| bcurtiswx | i temp symlinked them to libgtk-3.0.so.0 and it causes some major warning and some breakage still | 18:49 |
| bcurtiswx | but at least that got it to work, but it still doesn't on login | 18:49 |
| bcurtiswx | and only classic desktop | 18:49 |
| ricotz | surely there is another dependency interfering | 18:50 |
| bcurtiswx | ricotz, idk, is there a way i can find out ? | 18:50 |
| coz_ | bcurtiswx, out of curiosity..., this is a clean install of natty? yes? | 18:52 |
| bcurtiswx | coz_, it was originally a edit of the sources list to have natty, so to answer your question, no | 18:53 |
| coz_ | bcurtiswx, oh mmm have you already sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 18:53 |
| bcurtiswx | coz_, yes | 18:54 |
| coz_ | bcurtiswx, the last time I tried changeing the sources list to install natty if failed miserably | 18:54 |
| coz_ | bcurtiswx, i then downloaded and burned the daily and installed that | 18:54 |
| coz_ | bcurtiswx, of course there are always issues with alphas but at least it was working as well as it could | 18:55 |
| bcurtiswx | coz, it was just a find/replace in the sources.list from maverick to natty | 18:55 |
| coz_ | bcurtiswx, right...that didnt work for me | 18:55 |
| bcurtiswx | coz_, hmm. OK | 18:55 |
| coz_ | bcurtiswx, unless you have a zillion files to back up ... I would just download the daily build...check md5sums and burn it at 1x if possible | 18:56 |
| bcurtiswx | coz_, i may. at this point im trying to learn about finding issues and possibly fixing them.. but it's all learn by myself. I learn best that way thoug | 18:57 |
| coz_ | bcurtiswx, that 's great but somehow I dont think starting with a broken leg is the best way to enter a race | 18:58 |
| bcurtiswx | coz_, how would _you_ go about learning those type of things then? | 18:59 |
| coz_ | bcurtiswx, well there are plently of bugs in natty to work with :) | 18:59 |
| coz_ | bcurtiswx, and right now you have issues with maverick turned into natty... although it may be worth ferreting through everything to find the issues to fix it... I think reporting and attempting to fix bugs not caused by an upgrade may be more beneficial | 19:00 |
| coz_ | bcurtiswx, but that is strickly my own perspective on it | 19:01 |
| coz_ | bcurtiswx, please dont listen to me if it doesnt sit well with you :) | 19:01 |
| bcurtiswx | coz_, with probably more than half of the ubuntu userbase upgrading and not fresh-installing. I would think that upgrade bugs are fairly important :) | 19:01 |
| coz_ | bcurtiswx, i agree so I will back off from lecturing :) | 19:02 |
| scott-work | Ng: sorry to bother you, but you had addressed my rt ticket about ubuntustudio.org access but used an old gpg key | 22:25 |
| scott-work | Ng: i updated the ticket and just wanted to let you what happened | 22:25 |
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