| ubottu | CyL called the ops in #ubuntu () | 01:12 |
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| Daekdroom | Hey guys, can someone take a look over #ubuntu-br, because there is a troll called emad? | 01:34 |
| mneptok | Daekdroom: you want #ubutu-irc for loco channel issues. this is core channels only. | 02:24 |
| Daekdroom | mneptok, ok | 02:25 |
| Daekdroom | mneptok, I'll have that in mind the next time :) | 02:25 |
| ubottu | Gnea called the ops in #ubuntu (kunwon3 is spamming, shouting, advertising a false freenode site and just plain being rude) | 03:37 |
| ubottu | kunwon3 called the ops in #ubuntu (http://blog.feenode.net/2010/12/january-1st-sasl-required/) | 03:38 |
| ubottu | FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 04:10 |
| ubottu | FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 04:10 |
| ubottu | FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 04:10 |
| Tm_T | good morning | 04:41 |
| ubottu | FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from administrator_) | 04:42 |
| rww | Last Measure link and an exploit. Sure it's a good morning? ;P | 05:03 |
| jussi | you know, I just love the Spam we get to our lists sometimes... Subject: Windows 7 Professional 64 bit - $99.95 *G* | 08:02 |
| rww | that's a pretty good discount, forward to me plz | 08:02 |
| jussi | lol | 08:06 |
| rww | 7 Professional is $300 :( | 08:06 |
| jussi | rww: dont buy it then! use ubu.... oh wait :P | 08:07 |
| Myrtti | hi r00t4rd3d | 08:09 |
| elky | Please tell me this isn't still going on... | 09:04 |
| r00t4rd3d | hi | 09:21 |
| Tm_T | r00t4rd3d: hi, was good weekend? | 09:24 |
| r00t4rd3d | im a holiday hater :D | 09:24 |
| Tm_T | then there's two of us (; | 09:24 |
| rww | three! | 09:25 |
| Tm_T | r00t4rd3d: willing to discuss your ban now? | 09:25 |
| r00t4rd3d | i doubt it will be much of a "discuss" | 09:26 |
| Tm_T | nonetheless | 09:26 |
| r00t4rd3d | im all eyes | 09:28 |
| Tm_T | r00t4rd3d: you understand that you should be respectful towards the others in our channels? | 09:29 |
| r00t4rd3d | Im beyond respectful | 09:29 |
| Tm_T | please answer yes/no so this stays clear | 09:30 |
| r00t4rd3d | read everything ive ever typedin the channel | 09:30 |
| r00t4rd3d | yes | 09:30 |
| Tm_T | and when there's any disagreement with anyone, especially with ops, you come here and discuss it calmly? | 09:31 |
| r00t4rd3d | yes | 09:31 |
| Tm_T | good stuff | 09:31 |
| r00t4rd3d | yes | 09:32 |
| r00t4rd3d | :D | 09:32 |
| Tm_T | r00t4rd3d: your ban is lifted, have fun | 09:33 |
| r00t4rd3d | ok , ty | 09:34 |
| r00t4rd3d | err | 09:34 |
| r00t4rd3d | yes | 09:34 |
| Tm_T | r00t4rd3d: and if there's any issues, just remember we are here, no need to escalate things (: | 09:34 |
| elky | did he continue to harrass Jordan_U? | 09:42 |
| Tm_T | not that I know | 09:43 |
| elky | then what was he banned for? | 09:43 |
| Tm_T | elky: eventually his hostile attitude towards ops I suppose | 09:43 |
| elky | and you just unlifted his ban after "reading everything he ever typed in the channel"? hence making him think that you agree that "everything" said by him was respectful? | 09:45 |
| elky | er, s/unlifted his ban/ lifted his ban/ | 09:45 |
| rww | Works for me. We got into this mess because of a more direct approach to a borderline nick than usual; if he's not an issue any more, mission accomplished. If he is, reban him... | 09:46 |
| rww | well, some missions accomplished, I guess. | 09:46 |
| elky | rww, we got in to this mess because he couldn't cope with being asked to do something for the sake of others. | 09:47 |
| elky | rww, i cannot trust that the next time someone asks him to do something he won't engage the same behaviour | 09:47 |
| elky | and hence having let him back in without evidence that he /won't/ we've essentially licenced him to do that. | 09:48 |
| rww | elky: Given that the longstanding attitude towards borderline nicks has been "wait for someone that's not an op to complain about them", I question him being asked to change it in the first place. | 09:48 |
| rww | If he's problematic towards operator actions in the future, reban him. I did say this :\ | 09:48 |
| Tm_T | elky: he stayed out nicely when I asked him to stay, the original ban wasn't clear case, not even close | 09:48 |
| Tm_T | so I don't see any reason to keep the ban up if he behaves | 09:48 |
| elky | Tm_T, he was harrassing to intimidate an op. you just essentially agreed to his assertion that this behaviour was respectful. i don't care how "clear" the ban was, that's a really dangerous message | 09:49 |
| Tm_T | elky: I never agreed his behaviour being anything, simply that he knows our rules | 09:50 |
| elky | Tm_T, your unbanning him was agreement to the terms he was stating. you didn't challenge his assertion. | 09:51 |
| Tm_T | he knows I disagree | 09:52 |
| Tm_T | it's clear from our previous discussion | 09:52 |
| Tm_T | I just don't see a point to repeat the previous discussion all over again | 09:52 |
| Tm_T | and one step wrong way from him will lead to an action | 09:53 |
| elky | he still asserted, and you didn't challenge. that's capitulation. | 09:53 |
| Tm_T | my mistake | 09:54 |
| Tm_T | feel free to chip in when I do such things | 09:54 |
| jussi | I dont really see an issue with Tm_T's actions - he got the guy to agree that if theres an issue, he will come here and discuss it calmly. | 10:02 |
| jussi | if the guy acts out again, we talk to him. if he doesnt understand and is rude, we reban | 10:03 |
| jussi | anyway, Im out for a bit, lunch time | 10:04 |
| Tm_T | jussi: have a good lunch | 10:04 |
| elky | the guy went on a mission of harrassment against an op because he was informed that his nick was awful and advised a new one would be appreciated. That's incredibly disproportionate | 10:05 |
| elky | what's going to happen when other boundaries are set? | 10:05 |
| Tm_T | hopefully he has learned to not repeat such actions | 10:10 |
| elky | i'm doubtful. | 10:10 |
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| knome | erm, host of trench @ #ubuntu | 13:59 |
| knome | 15:59 ยป trench [trench@slutty.bitches.no] has joined #ubuntu | 14:00 |
| ubottu | In ubottu, PhonicUK said: !spotify is a music streaming application. You can either run the Windows version using WINE, or download the Linux preview using the Debian instructions from http://www.spotify.com/uk/download/previews/ - Note that you have to have a paid account to use the Linux version at this time. | 14:38 |
| ubottu | In ubottu, PhonicUK said: !steam is <reply> Steam can be run under Ubuntu by installing WINE and running the installer from http://www.steampowered.com/ as normal. | 14:39 |
| ubottu | In ubottu, PhonicUK said: !iPlayer is a video-on-demand service from the BBC in England, it can be used under Ubuntu with any browser that supports Flash. Simply browse to the usual URL at http://bbc.co.uk/iplayer | 14:41 |
| ubottu | In ubottu, PhonicUK said: !4od is a video-on-demand service from Channel 4 in England, it can be used under Ubuntu with any browse that supports flash. Simply browse to the usual URL at http://www.channel4.com/programmes/4od | 14:42 |
| popey | s/England/UK/ | 14:43 |
| Pici | Hrm. Some of those are a bit unneccesary imho. I'd consider adding !spotify and !steam though, with a caveat that WINE support is in #winehq | 14:44 |
| IdleOne | the video on demand ones are not needed imo | 14:44 |
| Pici | !steam is <reply> Steam can be run under Ubuntu by installing WINE and running the installer from http://www.steampowered.com/ as normal. Application support in WINE can be found in #winehq | 14:46 |
| ubottu | But steam already means something else! | 14:46 |
| Pici | !steam | 14:47 |
| ubottu | Steam can be found at: http://www.steampowered.com/ | 14:47 |
| Pici | Well thats not helpful. | 14:47 |
| Pici | !no steam is <reply> Steam can be run under Ubuntu by installing WINE and running the installer from http://www.steampowered.com/ as normal. Application support in WINE can be found in #winehq | 14:47 |
| ubottu | I'll remember that Pici | 14:47 |
| gord | hehe yeah that was not a good factoid ;) | 14:57 |
| IdleOne | not saying it isn't good, just saying I don't see why we should tell people to use a paid service when not needed | 14:59 |
| Pici | I'm not sure I like the !spotify one either. | 15:01 |
| IdleOne | there are two good reasons not to use spotify. 1- it isn't free and 2- it isn't FREE | 15:02 |
| IdleOne | AnggaDj98 is OT a lot and at best sometimes almost right about the advice he gives | 15:03 |
| popey | uhm | 15:03 |
| Pici | I thought spotify was free. | 15:04 |
| IdleOne | maybe it is | 15:04 |
| IdleOne | Note that you have to have a paid account to use the Linux version at this time. | 15:05 |
| popey | they have a free version | 15:05 |
| IdleOne | according to the factoid request | 15:05 |
| popey | that is correct | 15:05 |
| IdleOne | so the app is free but to be able to use it you have to pay? | 15:05 |
| popey | no | 15:06 |
| popey | I dont see how the fact that it's not free or Free make any difference to the factoids existence | 15:06 |
| popey | flash is non-Free, yet we have !flash | 15:06 |
| popey | probably more examples if one looked | 15:06 |
| Pici | I only didn't like it because of its length, not content. | 15:06 |
| popey | as the factoid says, you can run spotify under WINE | 15:06 |
| popey | (for free) | 15:06 |
| popey | it's only the native Linux client which requires a paid account | 15:06 |
| IdleOne | ah, I misunderstood | 15:07 |
| IdleOne | sorries | 15:07 |
| IdleOne | ok, it isn't available in my country :/ | 15:08 |
| IdleOne | is spotify a rebranding of songbird? | 15:09 |
| Pici | No | 15:09 |
| Pici | Its a streaming music service like Pandora iirc. | 15:10 |
| IdleOne | k | 15:10 |
| knome | yeah. | 15:10 |
| knome | on-demand music service | 15:10 |
| IdleOne | so it isn't "for streaming" but to "listening to" streams | 15:11 |
| * IdleOne takes back everything he said. | 15:11 | |
| IdleOne | that will teach me to speak on what i know not | 15:11 |
| knome | yeah, for listening. afaik, it DOES do some p2p-style sharing for the stuff you listen to, to keep the services up and running smoothly. but for the end-user, it's for listening only | 15:14 |
| popey | +1 | 15:20 |
| IdleOne | Good morning BajK | 15:24 |
| BajK | oh not this channel again | 15:25 |
| Pici | o.O | 15:26 |
| IdleOne | I removed the forward I had set and placed a simple ban. The forward was for curse and run but they don't seem to want to stay here long enough to discuss it. | 15:27 |
| maco | is r3dux always so argumentative? | 15:58 |
| maco | r3dux hasnt been on topic for an hour :-/ | 16:10 |
| maco | just saying random things about vector math | 16:11 |
| Tm_T | good night all | 20:38 |
| ubottu | MrKeuner called the ops in #ubuntu () | 22:51 |
| IdleOne | idoru took care of it | 22:52 |
| elky | Tm_T, your rootarded fellow is now PMing me. | 23:42 |
| CarlFK | r00t's main problem is interacting with ops. | 23:56 |
| CarlFK | er, main problem we care about | 23:56 |
| elky | well yes, he seems to think he can intimidate them in to letting him have his way | 23:57 |
| CarlFK | is that (and only that) worth the ban? | 23:57 |
| CarlFK | I am very undecided | 23:58 |
| elky | intimidation is harassment. | 23:58 |
| elky | intimidation is bullying. | 23:58 |
| CarlFK | but i don't see that behavior towards other users, just ops that try to talk to him | 23:59 |
| elky | His ban was lifted under the directive he not continue his previous pattern of interaction. He has, this morning, reverted to that pattern. | 23:59 |
| CarlFK | ah | 23:59 |
| CarlFK | swell. | 23:59 |
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