[01:12] CyL called the ops in #ubuntu () [01:34] Hey guys, can someone take a look over #ubuntu-br, because there is a troll called emad? [02:24] Daekdroom: you want #ubutu-irc for loco channel issues. this is core channels only. [02:25] mneptok, ok [02:25] mneptok, I'll have that in mind the next time :) [03:37] Gnea called the ops in #ubuntu (kunwon3 is spamming, shouting, advertising a false freenode site and just plain being rude) [03:38] kunwon3 called the ops in #ubuntu (http://blog.feenode.net/2010/12/january-1st-sasl-required/) [04:10] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [04:10] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [04:10] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [04:41] good morning [04:42] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from administrator_) [05:03] Last Measure link and an exploit. Sure it's a good morning? ;P [08:02] you know, I just love the Spam we get to our lists sometimes... Subject: Windows 7 Professional 64 bit - $99.95 *G* [08:02] that's a pretty good discount, forward to me plz [08:06] lol [08:06] 7 Professional is $300 :( [08:07] rww: dont buy it then! use ubu.... oh wait :P [08:09] hi r00t4rd3d [09:04] Please tell me this isn't still going on... [09:21] hi [09:24] r00t4rd3d: hi, was good weekend? [09:24] im a holiday hater :D [09:24] then there's two of us (; [09:25] three! [09:25] r00t4rd3d: willing to discuss your ban now? [09:26] i doubt it will be much of a "discuss" [09:26] nonetheless [09:28] im all eyes [09:29] r00t4rd3d: you understand that you should be respectful towards the others in our channels? [09:29] Im beyond respectful [09:30] please answer yes/no so this stays clear [09:30] read everything ive ever typedin the channel [09:30] yes [09:31] and when there's any disagreement with anyone, especially with ops, you come here and discuss it calmly? [09:31] yes [09:31] good stuff [09:32] yes [09:32] :D [09:33] r00t4rd3d: your ban is lifted, have fun [09:34] ok , ty [09:34] err [09:34] yes [09:34] r00t4rd3d: and if there's any issues, just remember we are here, no need to escalate things (: [09:42] did he continue to harrass Jordan_U? [09:43] not that I know [09:43] then what was he banned for? [09:43] elky: eventually his hostile attitude towards ops I suppose [09:45] and you just unlifted his ban after "reading everything he ever typed in the channel"? hence making him think that you agree that "everything" said by him was respectful? [09:45] er, s/unlifted his ban/ lifted his ban/ [09:46] Works for me. We got into this mess because of a more direct approach to a borderline nick than usual; if he's not an issue any more, mission accomplished. If he is, reban him... [09:46] well, some missions accomplished, I guess. [09:47] rww, we got in to this mess because he couldn't cope with being asked to do something for the sake of others. [09:47] rww, i cannot trust that the next time someone asks him to do something he won't engage the same behaviour [09:48] and hence having let him back in without evidence that he /won't/ we've essentially licenced him to do that. [09:48] elky: Given that the longstanding attitude towards borderline nicks has been "wait for someone that's not an op to complain about them", I question him being asked to change it in the first place. [09:48] If he's problematic towards operator actions in the future, reban him. I did say this :\ [09:48] elky: he stayed out nicely when I asked him to stay, the original ban wasn't clear case, not even close [09:48] so I don't see any reason to keep the ban up if he behaves [09:49] Tm_T, he was harrassing to intimidate an op. you just essentially agreed to his assertion that this behaviour was respectful. i don't care how "clear" the ban was, that's a really dangerous message [09:50] elky: I never agreed his behaviour being anything, simply that he knows our rules [09:51] Tm_T, your unbanning him was agreement to the terms he was stating. you didn't challenge his assertion. [09:52] he knows I disagree [09:52] it's clear from our previous discussion [09:52] I just don't see a point to repeat the previous discussion all over again [09:53] and one step wrong way from him will lead to an action [09:53] he still asserted, and you didn't challenge. that's capitulation. [09:54] my mistake [09:54] feel free to chip in when I do such things [10:02] I dont really see an issue with Tm_T's actions - he got the guy to agree that if theres an issue, he will come here and discuss it calmly. [10:03] if the guy acts out again, we talk to him. if he doesnt understand and is rude, we reban [10:04] anyway, Im out for a bit, lunch time [10:04] jussi: have a good lunch [10:05] the guy went on a mission of harrassment against an op because he was informed that his nick was awful and advised a new one would be appreciated. That's incredibly disproportionate [10:05] what's going to happen when other boundaries are set? [10:10] hopefully he has learned to not repeat such actions [10:10] i'm doubtful. === apachelogger is now known as darthlogger === darthlogger is now known as apachelogger [13:59] erm, host of trench @ #ubuntu [14:00] 15:59 ยป trench [trench@slutty.bitches.no] has joined #ubuntu [14:38] In ubottu, PhonicUK said: !spotify is a music streaming application. You can either run the Windows version using WINE, or download the Linux preview using the Debian instructions from http://www.spotify.com/uk/download/previews/ - Note that you have to have a paid account to use the Linux version at this time. [14:39] In ubottu, PhonicUK said: !steam is Steam can be run under Ubuntu by installing WINE and running the installer from http://www.steampowered.com/ as normal. [14:41] In ubottu, PhonicUK said: !iPlayer is a video-on-demand service from the BBC in England, it can be used under Ubuntu with any browser that supports Flash. Simply browse to the usual URL at http://bbc.co.uk/iplayer [14:42] In ubottu, PhonicUK said: !4od is a video-on-demand service from Channel 4 in England, it can be used under Ubuntu with any browse that supports flash. Simply browse to the usual URL at http://www.channel4.com/programmes/4od [14:43] s/England/UK/ [14:44] Hrm. Some of those are a bit unneccesary imho. I'd consider adding !spotify and !steam though, with a caveat that WINE support is in #winehq [14:44] the video on demand ones are not needed imo [14:46] !steam is Steam can be run under Ubuntu by installing WINE and running the installer from http://www.steampowered.com/ as normal. Application support in WINE can be found in #winehq [14:46] But steam already means something else! [14:47] !steam [14:47] Steam can be found at: http://www.steampowered.com/ [14:47] Well thats not helpful. [14:47] !no steam is Steam can be run under Ubuntu by installing WINE and running the installer from http://www.steampowered.com/ as normal. Application support in WINE can be found in #winehq [14:47] I'll remember that Pici [14:57] hehe yeah that was not a good factoid ;) [14:59] not saying it isn't good, just saying I don't see why we should tell people to use a paid service when not needed [15:01] I'm not sure I like the !spotify one either. [15:02] there are two good reasons not to use spotify. 1- it isn't free and 2- it isn't FREE [15:03] AnggaDj98 is OT a lot and at best sometimes almost right about the advice he gives [15:03] uhm [15:04] I thought spotify was free. [15:04] maybe it is [15:05] Note that you have to have a paid account to use the Linux version at this time. [15:05] they have a free version [15:05] according to the factoid request [15:05] that is correct [15:05] so the app is free but to be able to use it you have to pay? [15:06] no [15:06] I dont see how the fact that it's not free or Free make any difference to the factoids existence [15:06] flash is non-Free, yet we have !flash [15:06] probably more examples if one looked [15:06] I only didn't like it because of its length, not content. [15:06] as the factoid says, you can run spotify under WINE [15:06] (for free) [15:06] it's only the native Linux client which requires a paid account [15:07] ah, I misunderstood [15:07] sorries [15:08] ok, it isn't available in my country :/ [15:09] is spotify a rebranding of songbird? [15:09] No [15:10] Its a streaming music service like Pandora iirc. [15:10] k [15:10] yeah. [15:10] on-demand music service [15:11] so it isn't "for streaming" but to "listening to" streams [15:11] * IdleOne takes back everything he said. [15:11] that will teach me to speak on what i know not [15:14] yeah, for listening. afaik, it DOES do some p2p-style sharing for the stuff you listen to, to keep the services up and running smoothly. but for the end-user, it's for listening only [15:20] +1 [15:24] Good morning BajK [15:25] oh not this channel again [15:26] o.O [15:27] I removed the forward I had set and placed a simple ban. The forward was for curse and run but they don't seem to want to stay here long enough to discuss it. [15:58] is r3dux always so argumentative? [16:10] r3dux hasnt been on topic for an hour :-/ [16:11] just saying random things about vector math [20:38] good night all [22:51] MrKeuner called the ops in #ubuntu () [22:52] idoru took care of it [23:42] Tm_T, your rootarded fellow is now PMing me. [23:56] r00t's main problem is interacting with ops. [23:56] er, main problem we care about [23:57] well yes, he seems to think he can intimidate them in to letting him have his way [23:57] is that (and only that) worth the ban? [23:58] I am very undecided [23:58] intimidation is harassment. [23:58] intimidation is bullying. [23:59] but i don't see that behavior towards other users, just ops that try to talk to him [23:59] His ban was lifted under the directive he not continue his previous pattern of interaction. He has, this morning, reverted to that pattern. [23:59] ah [23:59] swell.