[00:45] <nUboon2Age> jtatum: please see pm
[01:24] <pleia2> I remember when I thought it never rained here
[01:24] <pleia2> san francisco sure told me :)
[01:25] <seidos> i rode the bike in the rain a bit today.
[01:26] <pleia2> it wasn't so bad when I went out at lunch, but I finally had to close the windows
[01:26] <pleia2> very rainy now
[01:28] <seidos> i can hear the pitter patter
[01:28] <seidos> it does sound heavier than before, when i couldn't hear it
[01:29] <pleia2> :)
[01:31] <jtatum> the dry summer was kinda cool but i missed the rain
[01:31] <pleia2> me too
[01:31] <seidos> i like humidity
[01:32] <seidos> warm + humid is actually my preference
[01:32] <seidos> i could actually go out in the sun for some time without frying
[01:32] <jtatum> get thee to florida, seidos
[01:32] <pleia2> I think I get burned during every geeknic
[01:32] <seidos> nah, it's not that different in florida
[01:32] <jtatum> from here? yes it is. hehe
[01:33] <seidos> i should probably go to the carribean or something.
[01:33] <seidos> if i wear enough layers, it's almost the same ^_^
[01:33] <seidos> i'm probably just saying that since i really have no choice of where i go
[01:33] <jtatum> haha
[01:34] <pleia2> oh gosh, I can't handle florida at all, here is paradise :)
[01:34] <pleia2> I went to florida in november once and was violently ill from the heat for 2 days
[01:34] <seidos> i like it here...seriously people make all the difference.
[01:35] <seidos> i'm not sure what the people are like in florida
[01:35] <pleia2> the other time I went was in december, and all the locals were crying about how freezing it was (it got down to the 50s), I was ok that trip :)
[01:36] <seidos> when i was in miami, it was in the 70s.  it felt like home, except the water at the beach was balmy.
[01:37] <seidos> instead of frigid
[01:37] <pleia2> yeah, warm ocean/gulf is *weird*
[01:37] <pleia2> I was like "woo, cool off in the gulf.... whaaa??? bath wather?!"
[01:41] <jtatum> what! how do you swim in freezing water?
[01:41] <jtatum> i miss warm beach
[01:41] <pleia2> I grew up in maine and live in san francisco, water where I've lived never gets above 60 :)
[01:42] <pleia2> ocean is a cold thing!
[01:43] <jtatum> grew up in ct. water was warm enough in the summer
[01:44] <pleia2> yeah, cape cod noms all the heat
[01:47] <jtatum> i did not know htat
[01:50] <pleia2> actually it just creates a barrier of resistance that causes the warm water to go out to sea rather than continue north
[01:54] <seidos> hmmm, that's interesting.  if you stay in the water long enough, you should cool off
[01:55] <seidos> since there is more heat loss in water.
[01:55] <seidos> 50 degree water definitely feels a lot worse than 50 degree atmosphere
[01:55] <seidos> i can't tolerate it for very long without a wet suit
[01:57] <pleia2> we used to go swimming in the end of may in maine, the air and water temps were both around 45-50
[01:57] <pleia2> the water was still cold, but it didn't feel so bad
[01:57] <seidos> how long did you swim for?
[01:57] <pleia2> maybe an hour? but I was a kid, invincible and all that
[01:57] <seidos> hmmm, yeah an hour is a long time.
[01:58] <pleia2> I'd probably end up with all kinds of soreness after that now
[01:58] <seidos> my problem is the fear.  tolerating that kind of misery is rarely good.
[01:59] <seidos> if i got hypothermic, would i even know it, and could i even get out of the water?
[01:59] <pleia2> that's what moms are good for
[02:00] <seidos> haha
[02:00] <seidos> oh yeah, when you're a kid.
[02:00] <seidos> good point
[06:56] <nUboon2Age> jtatum: please see pm
[07:14] <nUboon2Age> jtatum: please see pm
[07:15] <rww> I don't think this tactic is working.
[08:58] <nUboon2Age> rww: actually he did contact me :-P
[09:00] <rww> I wonder whether pinging him twice in channel or his IRC client's PM notification caused that :P
[09:03] <nUboon2Age> why the snottiness rww?
[09:04] <nUboon2Age> besides, what you don't know is that the second time was just a slip of the fingers.  unintentional.
[09:04] <nUboon2Age> nonetheless the snottiness is unecessary.
[09:04] <rww> You appear to be ascribing a negative emotion to something that wasn't motivated by one :\
[09:04] <nUboon2Age> why even say it?
[09:05] <rww> Why take offense to it?
[09:15] <nUboon2Age> because its so obnoxious rww
[09:16] <rww> probably best to say "That annoys me, don't do it" instead of throwing insults around. Constructive criticism, and all that.
[09:16] <rww> I will stop critiquing your highlighting skills, as you wish :)
[09:29] <nUboon2Age> point taken rww
[09:30] <nUboon2Age> rww: the other thing you couldn't possibly know is that we're riding together to The Lindependence Hour Santa Cruz, so we needed to communicate specifically.  So if people need to contact each other it'd be nice if you'd just allow it to go by without comment.
[09:41] <rww> nUboon2Age: I haven't passed comment on people contacting other people. But since we're on the subject, texting works better than IRC for that ;P
[09:42] <rww> or calling, but then you get annoying people like me who don't answer voice calls :\
[09:44] <rww> When I die, someone petition the Vatican to make me the patron saint of unsolicited advice. I think I'd do well.
[16:09] <nUboon2Age> rww: calling is great when you have the phone number.  just let things pass without needing to be such a busy body, will ya?
[16:17] <pleia2> geez, name calling now? nUboon2Age, please chill out :)
[16:18] <pleia2> he wasn't attacking you, and you are still not being constructive, just stop
[16:20] <pleia2> anyway, updated twitter and identica for your Lindependence Hour tonight :)
[16:54] <nUboon2Age> pleia2: ty
[16:58] <pleia2> sure, have fun tonight, I still haven't made it down to Santa Cruz... keep saying I'll make a day out of it and go during one of the Saturday feltonlug meetings, but then find my saturdays always busy