| AlphaCluster | why does 10.10 suck so much :( | 00:05 |
|---|---|---|
| AlphaCluster | i swear every time i install it now i find some stupid error that should never be causing as much of an issue as it does | 00:07 |
| AlphaCluster | nobody going to defend it | 00:10 |
| AlphaCluster | ? | 00:10 |
| tonyyarusso | haven't tried it | 00:12 |
| AlphaCluster | lol you havent used 10.10 yet? | 00:13 |
| tonyyarusso | nope | 00:16 |
| AlphaCluster | are you on 10.04 or something? | 00:16 |
| tonyyarusso | yeah | 00:20 |
| AlphaCluster | lol well do you know how to moutn a flash drive so that you can exicute programs from it | 00:23 |
| AlphaCluster | i could never get that even in 10.04 | 00:23 |
| AlphaCluster | some idiot thought it would be great for security | 00:23 |
| tonyyarusso | -o exec | 00:25 |
| AlphaCluster | when mounting? | 00:25 |
| tonyyarusso | yeah, or remounting | 00:26 |
| AlphaCluster | hmm illhave to try that | 00:26 |
| AlphaCluster | i havent been able to get lastpass working on my linux boxes cause of that really silly "security" chane | 00:26 |
| AlphaCluster | change* | 00:27 |
| AlphaCluster | the change should never have happend without a per-program override like windows | 00:27 |
| AlphaCluster | well it looks like gateway has decided for methat my new HTPC will be ubuntu for sure | 00:29 |
| * Takyoji returns | 03:56 | |
| tonyyarusso | true or false? | 03:56 |
| sparklehistory | Is there a question or are those just our choices? | 03:56 |
| tonyyarusso | I'm wondering what Takyoji returns. | 03:57 |
| Takyoji | I return a signed integer you insensitive clod! D: | 03:58 |
| Takyoji | i can has negative nice value nao? :D | 04:00 |
| Takyoji | It's rather awkward how process priority is called "niceness" | 04:00 |
| Takyoji | Yay, my new connector works out-of-the-box on Ubuntu, as I thought it would | 04:51 |
| Takyoji | This be the connector: http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/usb-gadgets/dd1a/ | 04:52 |
| Takyoji | Just emailed ThinkGeek to add Linux to the supported list | 04:57 |
| Takyoji | Heh, I even just booted a whole Tangle installation on old harddrive using the cable and VirtualBox | 05:23 |
| Takyoji | I'm definitely bringing this to the next installfest | 05:24 |
| Takyoji | Guess which one indicates my network usage: http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a368/takyoji/iso-download.png | 05:47 |
| tonyyarusso | Takyoji: where's the power connector on that cable? | 05:51 |
| Takyoji | It's a seperate cable that comes with it; it's a Molex and SATA power cable with an attached transformer and all. | 05:52 |
| tonyyarusso | Where's my phone? | 05:54 |
| Takyoji | On a table | 05:54 |
| sparklehistory | tonyyarusso: In your coat? | 05:54 |
| tonyyarusso | sparklehistory: nope | 05:54 |
| sparklehistory | tonyyarusso: Well, where did you put it when you took it out of your coat then? | 05:54 |
| Takyoji | I get a kick that I'm installing 11.04 in a virtual machine in VirtualBox on a physical old harddrive over the connector. :P | 05:54 |
| tonyyarusso | On the washing machine! | 05:55 |
| sparklehistory | haha | 05:55 |
| sparklehistory | As long as it's *on* the washing machine and not *in* the washing machine | 05:55 |
| Takyoji | apparently the responsiveness of the installer appears to be based upon the performance of the harddrive. | 05:55 |
| Takyoji | In other words, on this old HD, it seems rather hangy-ish | 05:56 |
| Takyoji | unless if that's VirtualBox's fault | 05:56 |
| * tonyyarusso installs Natty a couple times while Takyoji waits | 05:56 | |
| Takyoji | Responsiveness in terms of the GUI, specifically. | 05:57 |
| Takyoji | anyway; I've suggested my idea on the Ubuntu Tour project (which is a little empty in terms of users) and someone seemed interested. | 05:58 |
| Takyoji | My idea is of creating a web-based recreation of Ubuntu, solely for the purpose of as a guided learning tool. Like stepping people through the process of doing something in the GNOME environment. | 05:59 |
| Takyoji | A very vague example would be like screenshots of each step, whereas the area to click is an anchor to the page of the next step. | 05:59 |
| tonyyarusso | err, don't we already have tools that can do that? | 05:59 |
| Takyoji | But in all reality, I wouldn't do that; I'd be able to it with CSS and XHTML | 05:59 |
| Takyoji | Ubuntu Tour can't really control anything with applications much at all. | 06:00 |
| Takyoji | Just fixed arrows, and screenshots, not much else. | 06:00 |
| Takyoji | unless if I'm mistaken | 06:00 |
| tonyyarusso | right, so why bother? | 06:00 |
| Takyoji | You're quite supportive. :P | 06:01 |
| Takyoji | It would be more "hands-on" than just screenshots and static text. | 06:01 |
| Takyoji | Think: eyeOS rethemed as Ubuntu, with tooltips on each step along the way, with voice guidance (if manually enabled) | 06:01 |
| Takyoji | Just flipping back and forth between a real application and a screenshot would be annoying I think | 06:02 |
| Takyoji | and the goal is that it would also focus on completely new computer users as well | 06:02 |
| Takyoji | any changes in opinion yet? | 06:03 |
| Takyoji | Toggling between windows of applications, is annoying, is my thought. Scrolling (like with read static text), pausing/playing/seeking (like with a video tutorial), and so on usually seems to make a learning experience slower. | 06:05 |
| * tonyyarusso rephrases | 06:05 | |
| Takyoji | Whereas if it's all integrated into a single interface and application, without having to jump between windows, or having two simultaneous windows open, it'll be more convenient. | 06:05 |
| tonyyarusso | There are things out there to allow for access to an actual Ubuntu system over the 'net, so there's no realy point in trying to re-implement it in javascript and stuff. | 06:06 |
| Takyoji | If you can find a way to make an application open up the Applications menu, and highlight an option; then tell me. | 06:06 |
| tonyyarusso | Also, eyeOS - you mean the horrendous failure? :P | 06:06 |
| Takyoji | And yes, you can do it over the network, but that still comes back to the core problem. :P | 06:07 |
| Takyoji | because unless if there's some "Assistance/Handicap Tool" that can manipulate a GUI in GNOME, without having the application to have special support to have such possible, there's not really much else for an option. | 06:09 |
| Takyoji | Oh speak again, bright angel! | 06:11 |
| Takyoji | I'll give a cookie to whomever knows of a way that doesn't require making a fake representation of Ubuntu | 06:13 |
| rlaager | Takyoji: That reminds me of a website our helpdesk used to use back in the days when dial-up was big. It had the network configuration screens for every version of Windows done in that way (image maps). | 06:20 |
| Takyoji | heh ahh | 06:22 |
| Takyoji | Bleh, apparently this is the "Ubuntu Free Culture Showcase" example video for 11.04: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrzC5JKl3zM | 06:25 |
| * Takyoji wonders when the login sound will ever change | 06:27 | |
| Takyoji | ubuntu-advertising seems to be an interesting mailing list to read | 06:58 |
| Takyoji | and apparently in 11.04 there's Terminal and Root Terminal in Accessories | 06:59 |
| tonyyarusso | Just like old times! | 07:06 |
| Takyoji | and under System there's the Lock, Logout, and Shutdown options again | 07:07 |
| Takyoji | unless if it's just GNOME unaltered | 07:07 |
| Takyoji | So Unity requires graphics acceleration? | 18:28 |
| Takyoji | and woo, I didn't know of this until now: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/12/install-virtualbox-40-stable-in-ubuntu.html | 18:28 |
| Takyoji | of VirtualBox 4 being released a week ago | 18:28 |
| Takyoji | I wonder why I get the feeling that Unity is a fusion of Mac OS X and Windows 7? xP | 18:53 |
| Wally______ | Hi can some one take a look at this and see if they can point me in the right direction | 19:57 |
| Wally______ | http://pastebin.com/wss2wD5T | 19:57 |
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