[00:50] <asnos> you can install the xubuntu 10.10 at a PIV 1.3 and 128 ram?
[00:51] <charlie-tca> It won't run the desktop, no
[00:51] <charlie-tca> You need 256MB for the GUI
[00:52] <asnos> ;_;
[00:53] <asnos> a version that runs with less than 128 ram
[00:57] <asnos> I am interested only run internet - music and youtube
[04:15] <wizardslovak> hello people
[04:15] <wizardslovak> which confic file has written what to mount on startup?
[04:16] <wizardslovak> everytime i start it i gotta manually mount 2 hard drive partitions
[04:16] <well_laid_lawn> !fstab
[04:17] <wizardslovak> oh ok
[04:17] <wizardslovak> now how do i find those uuid?
[04:23] <well_laid_lawn> !uuid
[04:44] <Ak1ra> i notice that xubuntu is packaged with abiword and gnumeric (rather than open office).... are there a lot of ... not software 'deficiencies' but maybe cutbacks like that across the whole base installation
[04:45] <Ak1ra> the reason i'm looking at xubuntu is because i prefer xfce to gnome, rather than looking to downsize my operating footprint
[04:46] <well_laid_lawn> xubuntu tries to use lighter apps but you can install anything if you want
[04:46] <well_laid_lawn> !repos
[04:47] <Ak1ra> ooo both good responses <3
[04:47] <well_laid_lawn> all the ubuntu versions use the same repos
[04:47] <Ak1ra> oh really? for some reason i thought ubuntu included OO at base install
[05:01] <pleia2> Ak1ra: repos are just where the software is pulled from, it doesn't dictate what is shipped on the CD for different flavors
[05:01] <pleia2> ubuntu does come with OO at the base install, xubuntu does not, but if you wanted to install it (or upgrade it) both xubuntu and ubuntu pull from the same place
[14:06] <vendetta> can anyone help me with my graphics card problem?
[14:06] <well_laid_lawn> depends on the problem
[14:07] <well_laid_lawn> you'd have to tell us about it to find out
[14:07] <vendetta> got an onboard graphics card an i am running two monitors with it. one on dvi and one on d-sub
[14:07] <vendetta> if i want to watch a video it only shows a black screen, but i can hear the sound
[14:08] <vendetta> if i set one monitor to "off" and do everything on one monitor, it works fine
[14:09] <well_laid_lawn> that'll be a lack of memory available to the vid card
[14:10] <well_laid_lawn> using only one screens frees some memeory
[14:10] <well_laid_lawn> s/screens/screen/
[14:11] <vendetta> okay, but this is not an option for the future. i'll need a new graphics card
[14:12] <Sysi> flash video?
[14:12] <well_laid_lawn> sounds like it
[14:12] <vendetta> no, not a flash video
[14:12] <vendetta> flash videos work (e.g. on youtube)
[14:12] <vendetta> they dont work, if i want them full screen
[14:13] <vendetta> maybe it is because these monitors have different resolutions? one got 1600x1200 and the other has 1680x1050
[14:15] <well_laid_lawn> nah your using all the vid cards memory for the displays
[14:15] <well_laid_lawn> the x log should mention something about it
[14:16] <vendetta> /var/log/xorg.0.log?
[14:17] <well_laid_lawn> yep
[14:18] <well_laid_lawn> you're prob using all the virtual disply area with both monitors
[14:19] <vendetta> yes, i guess thats right
[14:19] <vendetta> both monitors form one large dispay
[14:20] <well_laid_lawn> drop the resolutions or just use one monitor for watching videos
[14:21] <vendetta> i thought about buying a low profile graphics card. want to use these high res and i dont want to switch one monitor off every time i want to watch a video
[14:22] <well_laid_lawn> what's the onboard vid card?
[14:23] <vendetta> should be an intel 3100 or so
[14:26] <vendetta> yes, intel gma 3100, with a max. shared memory of 384mb
[14:26] <well_laid_lawn> you're pretty limited for choice of driver then afaik
[14:26] <vendetta> indeed
[14:27] <vendetta> so i was wondering whether i should buy a ati 4350, dual-dvi with 1gb memory, or an geforce 9500 with 512mb
[14:28] <well_laid_lawn> most ppl recommend nvidia
[14:28] <Sysi> 4xxx atis should have nice open drivers
[14:28] <vendetta> threads on the internet are from 3-5 years ago so maybe hings have changed?
[14:29] <well_laid_lawn> I know nothing about nvidia or ati...
[14:30] <vendetta> ll
[14:31] <Sysi> yup, open ones should do 3D too on ati
[14:31] <well_laid_lawn> from what I've seen on these channels the newer catilyst drivers are fine and nvidia seems ok too
[14:32] <Sysi> propietary nvidia works well, but i'd trust more to open one
[14:32] <vendetta> sounds nice. i dont need much graphics stuff, like games. i just need a power saving way to run two monitors and watching a video from time to time
[14:32] <vendetta> Sysi, you got an url to these open drivers?
[14:33] <Sysi> greatest thing is that they come by default
[14:34] <vendetta> what about he proprietary ati drivers?
[14:34] <Sysi> stay away
[14:34] <vendetta> by default sounds awesome
[14:34] <vendetta> hehe ok. any reason why?
[14:35] <Sysi> they're not working well, expecially older ones with new xorg
[14:37] <vendetta> all right. i guess i give ati a try
[14:37] <well_laid_lawn> nvidia still hasn;t moved on from xorg.conf afaik
[14:37] <vendetta> thank both of you very much
[14:37] <well_laid_lawn> np
[14:42] <vendetta> is it possible to run on each monitor one virtual workspace?
[14:43] <well_laid_lawn> if you right click the pager you can set the number of workspaces
[14:45] <vendetta> yeah, but can i set an option like workspace1 - right monitor, workspace2 - left monitor?
[14:45] <well_laid_lawn> I don't think so
[14:45] <TheSheep> vendetta: you can run separate displays on two monitors
[14:45] <well_laid_lawn> !xrandr
[14:45] <TheSheep> vendetta: then each of them will have its own set of workspaces
[14:46] <TheSheep> xrandr only lets you have a large workspace that spans 2 monitors
[14:46] <vendetta> but i still need to shovel windows from one to the other
[14:47] <TheSheep> no problem
[14:47] <TheSheep> !dual-head
[14:47] <vendetta> thank you ubottu. i will try it
[14:48] <well_laid_lawn> I thought things had moved away from xinerama
[14:53] <TheSheep> it did
[14:53] <TheSheep> but it's still used/useful sometimes
[14:54] <well_laid_lawn> ok
[15:43] <MorphixNW> heyt
[15:44] <MorphixNW> hey*
[16:52] <vendetta> well_laid_lawn, just to give you an update: using vlc in opengl-mode also solves the problem with the video
[17:21] <MorphixNW> Anyone had experience of setting up a dual screen using a USB to VGA Adapter?
[17:23] <MorphixNW> !dual screen
[17:23] <Sysi> i guess "USB to VGA" works as separate graphics card
[17:31] <MorphixNW> ok different question, can anyone help with setting up dual screens on 10.04?
[17:32] <MorphixNW> seems very hard to get an answer around here lately :(
[17:34] <Sysi> what graphics card
[17:37] <Sysi> first → arandr/nvidia\ati tool, if not, xorg.conf
[17:41] <MorphixNW> its a USB to VGA Adapter
[17:42] <MorphixNW> I have plugged it all in, USB into the PC and VGA into the VGA of the Adapter
[17:42] <Sysi> what does lsusb say
[17:43] <MorphixNW> the screen is detecting a signal and the screen is also black with a red border on two sides
[17:44] <MorphixNW> lsusb = "Magic Technology Corp. SVGA Adapter" exactly as written
[17:45] <MorphixNW> is there no such thing as a GUI to configure this stuff?
[17:45] <Sysi> arandr for normal dual-screen, that yours sounds special
[17:45] <MorphixNW> lol, well my mother said that I am a very special boy lmfao
[17:46] <MorphixNW> ;)
[17:46] <MorphixNW> I imagine that its a cheap rip off of a more expensive one, but I didnt purchase it so I have no idea
[17:48] <Sysi> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=774994
[17:48] <MorphixNW> thank you :)
[17:49] <MorphixNW> dinner time, ill be away for a while but "in best Arnie Voice" ILL BE BACK