| oojah | I've a package that's not quite in Debian (reviewed a few times and should just need to be uploaded, alas). If I get it into Ubuntu via revu for Natty and for Debian for Natty+1 then am I right that the Debian package will effectively override the existing Ubuntu one? | 00:09 |
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| micahg | oojah: it can, you still have 2 months to get the package in Debian before feature freeze though | 00:10 |
| oojah | micahg: I thought the important one was debian import freeze, which was 12 minutes by my reckoning. | 00:12 |
| micahg | oojah: no, that's jsut the automatic import of packages, manual syncs of new packages can be requested until Feature Freeze | 00:13 |
| oojah | micahg: Ah, my misunderstanding then. | 00:13 |
| oojah | Are there any docs on the criteria needed for manual syncs? | 00:14 |
| micahg | oojah: before Feature Freeze there aren't any | 00:18 |
| oojah | micahg: Okey dokey. | 00:18 |
| micahg | oojah: you can use requestsync from ubuntu-dev-tolls | 00:18 |
| micahg | *ubuntu-dev-tools | 00:18 |
| oojah | That's a great relief all round! | 00:18 |
| * oojah nods | 00:19 | |
| bdrung | micahg: ubuntu-dev-trolls :D | 00:25 |
| micahg | bdrung: I was thinking that too | 00:25 |
| oojah | Good job I didn't install that one by mistake... | 00:26 |
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| mase_wk | I managed to get around my ant problem by setting the build tool to autoconf in debian/rules | 01:12 |
| ari-tczew | nice | 01:12 |
| mase_wk | however now when i run dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot i get this error | 01:14 |
| mase_wk | dh_auto_configure: ./configure --build=x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr --includedir=${prefix}/include --mandir=${prefix}/share/man --infodir=${prefix}/share/info --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var --libexecdir=${prefix}/lib/timber --disable-maintainer-mode --disable-dependency-tracking failed to to execute: No such file or directory | 01:14 |
| mase_wk | i really don't want the build system to actually build anything | 01:15 |
| mase_wk | but it seems you can't use buildsystem=none | 01:15 |
| mase_wk | if i use pbuilder i get "make: dh: Command not found" | 01:34 |
| mase_wk | however dh is installed and i can call it | 01:34 |
| mase_wk | ok well i am quite happy with myself. I am sure it's far from perfect, (but lintian doesn't complain ). I now have a branch in my git repo which has only the debian dir in it. So if anyone wants to make an ubuntu / debian package they can ( from the master branch ) do a git branch package; git merge debian; debuild -S -uc -us; cd ../; sudo pbuilder build timber_0.70.dsc | 04:27 |
| mase_wk | and come out with a package | 04:27 |
| cdbs | bdrung: | 06:40 |
| cdbs | bdrung: oops, sorry, typed that by mistake, was giong to do a whois instead | 06:40 |
| cdbs | bdrung: :o When did you become DD? | 10:13 |
| sebner | cdbs: yesterday ^_^ | 10:14 |
| cdbs | bdrung: Congrats! | 10:14 |
| bdrung | cdbs: thanks | 10:15 |
| sagaci | is there a tool to use that will foster real-time collaboration on code | 10:16 |
| sagaci | almost like teamviewer, I guess | 10:16 |
| hakermania | Hey, anybody knows the use of debian/compat ? | 10:19 |
| hakermania | It contains debhelper's version? | 10:20 |
| geser | it tells which debhelper version all the dh_* should "use" | 10:20 |
| dapal | hakermania: man debhelper, search for "Debhelper compatibility levels" | 10:34 |
| hakermania | dabal, geser: Thx | 10:35 |
| dapal | congrats bdrung :) | 10:36 |
| dapal | welcome aboard :) | 10:36 |
| bdrung | dapal: thanks | 10:36 |
| hakermania | Can anybody check if this debian/copyright is correct (using DEP-5): http://paste.ubuntu.com/548773/ Thx :) | 10:53 |
| bdrung | hakermania: it's not up-to-date: http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/dep/web/deps/dep5.mdwn?op=file&rev=152 | 11:04 |
| bdrung | hakermania: and "Files:" is missing | 11:05 |
| bdrung | hakermania: you should have two sections. one "Files: *" and one "Files: debian/*" | 11:06 |
| hakermania | bdrung: Thank you. | 11:09 |
| hakermania | bdrung: How about now? | 11:14 |
| hakermania | http://paste.ubuntu.com/548784/ | 11:14 |
| cdbs | bdrung: I am packaging a package which uses AGPL-3. Should I paste the whole license text to the thing? | 11:14 |
| cdbs | bdrung: I mean, in the License: para | 11:14 |
| tumbleweed | bdrung: if it isn't in common-licences, you have to | 11:16 |
| bdrung | cdbs: only the agpl-3 header. | 11:16 |
| tumbleweed | err cdbs | 11:16 |
| cdbs | tumbleweed: the whole license? :o | 11:16 |
| cdbs | bdrung: it ain't in common-licenses | 11:16 |
| tumbleweed | cdbs: the code has to be shipped with the whole licence available | 11:16 |
| bdrung | not good. | 11:16 |
| cdbs | tumbleweed: Can we write: Refer to the COPYING file in the source root directory | 11:17 |
| tumbleweed | cdbs: COPYING isn't distributed in th edeb | 11:17 |
| cdbs | of course not | 11:17 |
| tumbleweed | so you can't | 11:17 |
| cdbs | tumbleweed: adding the dots (.) in place of empty lines would be a headache for such a large license | 11:17 |
| tumbleweed | cdbs: that's why you use an editor with automation ability | 11:18 |
| tumbleweed | :%s/^ *$/ ./ would do the job in vim | 11:18 |
| cdbs | thanks | 11:20 |
| bdrung | how long does the apport retracer take to retrace a core dump? | 11:21 |
| cdbs | tumbleweed: and I use vim | 11:21 |
| cdbs | :) | 11:21 |
| hakermania | bdrung: Is it OK now? :S http://paste.ubuntu.com/548784/ | 11:30 |
| tumbleweed | hakermania: I'd suggest simply https://sourceforge.net/projects/wall-changer/ for source, or you'll have to change it on every new upsstream version | 11:31 |
| tumbleweed | hakermania: you can drop the "You should have received a copy..." paragraphs | 11:31 |
| bdrung | hakermania: i forgot that you are both. so you can drop the second paragraph (Files: debian/*) | 11:32 |
| hakermania | now it must be OK :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/548796/ | 11:35 |
| tumbleweed | LGTM | 11:36 |
| hakermania | Cool. | 11:39 |
| bdrung | i fail to configure my ~/.mailrc. can someone help me? i want to set the from mail address | 11:44 |
| tumbleweed | bdrung: set from=foo? (can't say I send much mail with mailx...) | 11:48 |
| tumbleweed | you may of course need to tweak your MTA to allow from address spoofing | 11:49 |
| bdrung | tumbleweed: i tried: set from="bdrung@debian.org" | 11:49 |
| bdrung | but it didn't work | 11:49 |
| bdrung | tumbleweed: do you know how to tweak the MTA? | 11:53 |
| tumbleweed | bdrung: start by seeing if that's the issue, by using sendmail -fbdrung@debian.org | 11:55 |
| ari-tczew | how long is Debian frozen? | 12:02 |
| tumbleweed | bdrung: on my system I need to use set smtp=localhost (i.e. use localhost instead of sendmail) to get the from address to be set. It looks like mail doesn't pass -f to sendmail | 12:02 |
| tumbleweed | ari-tczew: until it's ready | 12:02 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: I mean when it's started | 12:03 |
| tumbleweed | ari-tczew: it was announced during debconf, early august | 12:03 |
| bdrung | tumbleweed: set smtp=localhost doesn't work, too | 12:05 |
| tumbleweed | bdrung: presumably your mta then, which one? | 12:06 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: ok thanks | 12:06 |
| bdrung | tumbleweed: postfix | 12:07 |
| tumbleweed | hmm, postfix should respect from address coming from mynetworks | 12:07 |
| bdrung | and i didn't changed anything in postfix | 12:09 |
| hakermania | :) | 12:33 |
| hakermania | New upload for package wallch: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/wallch | 13:17 |
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| xteejx | Hi all, quick question: What is the chances that vim will be updated to at least 7.3.075 before Natty release? Re bug 137854 | 13:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 137854 in vim (Ubuntu) "vim-gnome window does not resize correctly when opening the 1st tab" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137854 | 13:54 |
| bdrung | xteejx: it depends. ask the debian maintainer to update the package (in unstable or experimental) and then let's merge it. | 14:00 |
| xteejx | bdrung: File an update request report? | 14:01 |
| bdrung | xteejx: yes. "Please update vim to version XY" | 14:02 |
| xteejx | bdrung: Cool thank you :) | 14:02 |
| bdrung | and you could say: it will fix LP xxxxxx and yyyyyy | 14:03 |
| xteejx | No probs :) | 14:03 |
| ari-tczew | do you know any good software for editing patches? | 14:21 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: apply the patch, edit the patched files, refresh the patch | 14:23 |
| ari-tczew | I use geany for reviewing patches, but there is no option to remove changes | 14:24 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: you didn't get me. MoM adds a lot of .pc files and I have to delete them for patch | 14:24 |
| ari-tczew | manually work taking a lot of time | 14:24 |
| ari-tczew | s/for/from | 14:24 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: maybe use debdiff to regenerate the patch? | 14:25 |
| * hakermania uploaded another wallch package because his description was quite loud, like an advertisement. http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/wallch | 14:27 | |
| ari-tczew | hakermania: you don't need to comment on revu that you've uploaded new source... | 14:28 |
| ari-tczew | we can guess that you've followed with our advices | 14:28 |
| ari-tczew | and you pushed fixed version | 14:28 |
| hakermania | ari-tczew: Confirmation :D | 14:28 |
| hakermania | ari-tczew: Reminding :D | 14:29 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: good point. | 14:29 |
| ari-tczew | now looks better | 14:29 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: there is a MoM bug. package includes patches, but MoM diff shows changes to files directly also :/ | 14:30 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: MoM should be fixed. | 14:31 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: should :P | 14:31 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: or would be nice to have a plugin for software like gedit - remove lines from xxx to yyy | 14:44 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: i dunno if gedit is the right place for it. | 14:44 |
| lfaraone | bdrung: congrats, re @d.o. Welcome to the madhouse. :) | 15:49 |
| hakermania | How does everybody know that bdrung become a DD ? | 15:57 |
| bdrung | lfaraone: thanks. | 16:01 |
| bdrung | hakermania: today i wrote a blog post. | 16:02 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: really? congrats then! | 16:05 |
| * ari-tczew is pleased when core-dev is also DD. cheers to bdrung and quadrispros | 16:06 | |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: yes, really. ;) look: http://packages.qa.debian.org/v/vlc/news/20101229T221850Z.html | 16:11 |
| ari-tczew | can I use another way like debian/rules instead adding 99 patch? | 16:15 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: for what? | 16:15 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: lxpanel | 16:16 |
| ari-tczew | 99 patch causing add patch debian-changes-* | 16:16 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: does this case mean that you're going to do more for Debian than Ubuntu? :> | 16:17 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: i will go on with my "debian first" approach. | 16:18 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: instead of 99-autotools.patch you could use dh-autoreconf | 16:19 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: what do you think, is it better way than 99 patch? | 16:20 |
| ari-tczew | 99 patch always has to be updated | 16:20 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: if the packages uses dh, using dh-autoreconf may be simpler | 16:20 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: lxpanel uses dg | 16:21 |
| ari-tczew | dh * | 16:21 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: then try dh-autoreconf | 16:21 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: should it be first or after override_dh_auto_configure: ? | 16:22 |
| ari-tczew | I guess that 1st | 16:22 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: something like dh $@ --with dh_autoreconf should work | 16:23 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: does this change add also changes in files like 99 patch? | 16:24 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: it runs autoreconf and cleans up in the clean target | 16:24 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: you should drop the 99 patch | 16:24 |
| ari-tczew | yep I know | 16:24 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: guess that should also B-D on dh-autoreconf right? | 16:30 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: yes | 16:31 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: fail. http://paste.ubuntu.com/548869/ | 16:32 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: man dh-autoreconf | 16:32 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: yeah, fixed ;) | 16:35 |
| sebner | bdrung: does that mean it won't work with dh8? | 16:53 |
| lfaraone | bdrung: yay for debian first! :) | 16:53 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: no, it'll work with dh 8. | 16:54 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: hm? | 16:55 |
| sebner | bdrung: man dh-autoreconf says dh --with autoreconf $@ where debhelper8 uses dh $@ --foo | 16:55 |
| bdrung | was for sebner: | 16:55 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew, sebner: use "dh $@ --with autoreconf" | 16:56 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: but lxpanel suses dh7 | 16:56 |
| ari-tczew | uses* | 16:56 |
| sebner | bdrung: the manpage should have a note about that imho | 16:57 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: dh 7 allows both orders, but dh 8 will be more strict | 16:57 |
| ari-tczew | Can't exec "autopoint": No such file or directory at /usr/share/autoconf/Autom4te/FileUtils.pm line 345. | 16:57 |
| ari-tczew | autoreconf: failed to run autopoint: No such file or directory | 16:58 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: autopoint installed? | 16:58 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: in pbuilder? | 16:58 |
| ari-tczew | B-D autopoint you mean? | 16:58 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: b-d? | 16:58 |
| sebner | bdrung: dh-autoreconf recommends autopoint though | 17:01 |
| fat0ss | hello, I am new to ubuntu | 17:37 |
| fat0ss | and try to follow the instruction given on Motu page | 17:37 |
| fat0ss | I Installed the all development tools. and installing the ubuntu development release | 17:39 |
| fat0ss | am I on right track ? | 17:39 |
| ari-tczew | fat0ss: why not? | 17:41 |
| fat0ss | ari-tczew, I am asking because ..it was so easy like a "piece of cake" | 17:43 |
| ari-tczew | fat0ss: now you can go ahead with development | 17:43 |
| fat0ss | ari-tczew, my connection speed is not so good.. I think it will take few hours to download the development release | 17:44 |
| ari-tczew | fat0ss: perhaps | 17:45 |
| tumbleweed | hmm, postfix should respect from address coming from mynetworks | 17:46 |
| tumbleweed | grr, exceuse that | 17:46 |
| fat0ss | ari-tczew, after installing developer release..I can go directly to bug fixing ? | 17:47 |
| ari-tczew | fat0ss: yes. already you can go with bug fixing. | 17:47 |
| ari-tczew | !SRU | fat0ss | 17:47 |
| ubottu | fat0ss: Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates | 17:47 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: is it possible that --with autoreconf creates debian-changes-* ? | 17:53 |
| ari-tczew | or is it my fault? | 17:53 |
| ari-tczew | what is wrong? http://paste.ubuntu.com/548881/ | 17:58 |
| tumbleweed | bdrung: syncpackage-681693 is ready for some review | 18:15 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: can you help me? | 18:30 |
| tumbleweed | ari-tczew: looks like you left out the part where the failure happened | 18:37 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: I added dh $@ --with autoreconf | 18:37 |
| ari-tczew | now configure couldn't go ahead | 18:37 |
| hakermania | /ping | 18:50 |
| hakermania | :/ | 18:50 |
| tumbleweed | ari-tczew: I mean the error happened before the lines you posted, it starts with "exit 1" | 18:55 |
| tumbleweed | ari-tczew: as usual with configure, look in config.log | 18:55 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: config.log in pbuildeR? | 19:01 |
| tumbleweed | yes | 19:01 |
| bdrung | tumbleweed: i want online unittest for this branch. | 19:02 |
| tumbleweed | bdrung: I'll bet. I can probably do some offline testing too | 19:03 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: where is config.log in pbuilder? | 19:10 |
| tumbleweed | ari-tczew: in th edirectory it's building in. Set up a hook to open a shell if the build fails (there's an example hook that does that) | 19:11 |
| ari-tczew | tumbleweed: is it on wiki? | 19:11 |
| tumbleweed | in the package | 19:11 |
| tumbleweed | ari-tczew: enjoy (I'm going out) | 19:14 |
| ari-tczew | heh, thanks | 19:14 |
| ari-tczew | fu** it, I'm not going finish it until new year | 19:29 |
| c_korn | how can I allow a package to overwrite a file from anotherpackage so I do not get the error: <package> tries to overwrite <file> which has already been installed by package <package> | 20:48 |
| Bachstelze | c_korn: ad a diversion on the ol package's version of the file with dpkg-divert | 20:49 |
| Bachstelze | add* old* | 20:49 |
| c_korn | ah, this seems to be what I want | 20:51 |
| c_korn | now I have to execute this at packaging time somehow | 20:51 |
| c_korn | does it go to postinst ? | 20:51 |
| Bachstelze | c_korn: actually, you have to be careful that the old package still works after that file is renamed | 20:53 |
| Bachstelze | otherwise, just make your package conflict with it | 20:53 |
| c_korn | hm, I will describe my problem more clearly: | 20:54 |
| c_korn | it is the game urbanterror. is has a data package urbanterror-data which has its own tarball. and now there is the package urbanterror which contains the game's executable. but now there is a version of urbanterror which has an improved exe and I want to package it as urbanterror-optimized. this also includes some optimized game files which are in the urbanterror-data package. now I add a conflict to the urbanterror package and I also want | 20:57 |
| c_korn | the package to allow to update some of the game content which has been installed by urbanterror-data | 20:57 |
| Bachstelze | hmm | 21:01 |
| Bachstelze | I would make urbanterror-optimized replace urbanterror, and add a diverison for the files in urbanterror-data that create a conflict | 21:02 |
| Bachstelze | presumably, urbanterror-optimized doesn't need the old files anymore | 21:02 |
| c_korn | yes, do I have to do this in postinst? | 21:11 |
| c_korn | or is there a special config file | 21:11 |
| c_korn | like package.links | 21:11 |
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