[00:09] I've a package that's not quite in Debian (reviewed a few times and should just need to be uploaded, alas). If I get it into Ubuntu via revu for Natty and for Debian for Natty+1 then am I right that the Debian package will effectively override the existing Ubuntu one? [00:10] oojah: it can, you still have 2 months to get the package in Debian before feature freeze though [00:12] micahg: I thought the important one was debian import freeze, which was 12 minutes by my reckoning. [00:13] oojah: no, that's jsut the automatic import of packages, manual syncs of new packages can be requested until Feature Freeze [00:13] micahg: Ah, my misunderstanding then. [00:14] Are there any docs on the criteria needed for manual syncs? [00:18] oojah: before Feature Freeze there aren't any [00:18] micahg: Okey dokey. [00:18] oojah: you can use requestsync from ubuntu-dev-tolls [00:18] *ubuntu-dev-tools [00:18] That's a great relief all round! [00:19] * oojah nods [00:25] micahg: ubuntu-dev-trolls :D [00:25] bdrung: I was thinking that too [00:26] Good job I didn't install that one by mistake... === ogra is now known as Guest58620 [01:12] I managed to get around my ant problem by setting the build tool to autoconf in debian/rules [01:12] nice [01:14] however now when i run dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot i get this error [01:14] dh_auto_configure: ./configure --build=x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr --includedir=${prefix}/include --mandir=${prefix}/share/man --infodir=${prefix}/share/info --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var --libexecdir=${prefix}/lib/timber --disable-maintainer-mode --disable-dependency-tracking failed to to execute: No such file or directory [01:15] i really don't want the build system to actually build anything [01:15] but it seems you can't use buildsystem=none [01:34] if i use pbuilder i get "make: dh: Command not found" [01:34] however dh is installed and i can call it [04:27] ok well i am quite happy with myself. I am sure it's far from perfect, (but lintian doesn't complain ). I now have a branch in my git repo which has only the debian dir in it. So if anyone wants to make an ubuntu / debian package they can ( from the master branch ) do a git branch package; git merge debian; debuild -S -uc -us; cd ../; sudo pbuilder build timber_0.70.dsc [04:27] and come out with a package [06:40] bdrung: [06:40] bdrung: oops, sorry, typed that by mistake, was giong to do a whois instead [10:13] bdrung: :o When did you become DD? [10:14] cdbs: yesterday ^_^ [10:14] bdrung: Congrats! [10:15] cdbs: thanks [10:16] is there a tool to use that will foster real-time collaboration on code [10:16] almost like teamviewer, I guess [10:19] Hey, anybody knows the use of debian/compat ? [10:20] It contains debhelper's version? [10:20] it tells which debhelper version all the dh_* should "use" [10:34] hakermania: man debhelper, search for "Debhelper compatibility levels" [10:35] dabal, geser: Thx [10:36] congrats bdrung :) [10:36] welcome aboard :) [10:36] dapal: thanks [10:53] Can anybody check if this debian/copyright is correct (using DEP-5): http://paste.ubuntu.com/548773/ Thx :) [11:04] hakermania: it's not up-to-date: http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/dep/web/deps/dep5.mdwn?op=file&rev=152 [11:05] hakermania: and "Files:" is missing [11:06] hakermania: you should have two sections. one "Files: *" and one "Files: debian/*" [11:09] bdrung: Thank you. [11:14] bdrung: How about now? [11:14] http://paste.ubuntu.com/548784/ [11:14] bdrung: I am packaging a package which uses AGPL-3. Should I paste the whole license text to the thing? [11:14] bdrung: I mean, in the License: para [11:16] bdrung: if it isn't in common-licences, you have to [11:16] cdbs: only the agpl-3 header. [11:16] err cdbs [11:16] tumbleweed: the whole license? :o [11:16] bdrung: it ain't in common-licenses [11:16] cdbs: the code has to be shipped with the whole licence available [11:16] not good. [11:17] tumbleweed: Can we write: Refer to the COPYING file in the source root directory [11:17] cdbs: COPYING isn't distributed in th edeb [11:17] of course not [11:17] so you can't [11:17] tumbleweed: adding the dots (.) in place of empty lines would be a headache for such a large license [11:18] cdbs: that's why you use an editor with automation ability [11:18] :%s/^ *$/ ./ would do the job in vim [11:20] thanks [11:21] how long does the apport retracer take to retrace a core dump? [11:21] tumbleweed: and I use vim [11:21] :) [11:30] bdrung: Is it OK now? :S http://paste.ubuntu.com/548784/ [11:31] hakermania: I'd suggest simply https://sourceforge.net/projects/wall-changer/ for source, or you'll have to change it on every new upsstream version [11:31] hakermania: you can drop the "You should have received a copy..." paragraphs [11:32] hakermania: i forgot that you are both. so you can drop the second paragraph (Files: debian/*) [11:35] now it must be OK :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/548796/ [11:36] LGTM [11:39] Cool. [11:44] i fail to configure my ~/.mailrc. can someone help me? i want to set the from mail address [11:48] bdrung: set from=foo? (can't say I send much mail with mailx...) [11:49] you may of course need to tweak your MTA to allow from address spoofing [11:49] tumbleweed: i tried: set from="bdrung@debian.org" [11:49] but it didn't work [11:53] tumbleweed: do you know how to tweak the MTA? [11:55] bdrung: start by seeing if that's the issue, by using sendmail -fbdrung@debian.org [12:02] how long is Debian frozen? [12:02] bdrung: on my system I need to use set smtp=localhost (i.e. use localhost instead of sendmail) to get the from address to be set. It looks like mail doesn't pass -f to sendmail [12:02] ari-tczew: until it's ready [12:03] tumbleweed: I mean when it's started [12:03] ari-tczew: it was announced during debconf, early august [12:05] tumbleweed: set smtp=localhost doesn't work, too [12:06] bdrung: presumably your mta then, which one? [12:06] tumbleweed: ok thanks [12:07] tumbleweed: postfix [12:07] hmm, postfix should respect from address coming from mynetworks [12:09] and i didn't changed anything in postfix [12:33] :) [13:17] New upload for package wallch: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/wallch === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [13:54] Hi all, quick question: What is the chances that vim will be updated to at least 7.3.075 before Natty release? Re bug 137854 [13:54] Launchpad bug 137854 in vim (Ubuntu) "vim-gnome window does not resize correctly when opening the 1st tab" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137854 [14:00] xteejx: it depends. ask the debian maintainer to update the package (in unstable or experimental) and then let's merge it. [14:01] bdrung: File an update request report? [14:02] xteejx: yes. "Please update vim to version XY" [14:02] bdrung: Cool thank you :) [14:03] and you could say: it will fix LP xxxxxx and yyyyyy [14:03] No probs :) [14:21] do you know any good software for editing patches? [14:23] ari-tczew: apply the patch, edit the patched files, refresh the patch [14:24] I use geany for reviewing patches, but there is no option to remove changes [14:24] bdrung: you didn't get me. MoM adds a lot of .pc files and I have to delete them for patch [14:24] manually work taking a lot of time [14:24] s/for/from [14:25] ari-tczew: maybe use debdiff to regenerate the patch? [14:27] * hakermania uploaded another wallch package because his description was quite loud, like an advertisement. http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/wallch [14:28] hakermania: you don't need to comment on revu that you've uploaded new source... [14:28] we can guess that you've followed with our advices [14:28] and you pushed fixed version [14:28] ari-tczew: Confirmation :D [14:29] ari-tczew: Reminding :D [14:29] bdrung: good point. [14:29] now looks better [14:30] bdrung: there is a MoM bug. package includes patches, but MoM diff shows changes to files directly also :/ [14:31] ari-tczew: MoM should be fixed. [14:31] bdrung: should :P [14:44] bdrung: or would be nice to have a plugin for software like gedit - remove lines from xxx to yyy [14:44] ari-tczew: i dunno if gedit is the right place for it. [15:49] bdrung: congrats, re @d.o. Welcome to the madhouse. :) [15:57] How does everybody know that bdrung become a DD ? [16:01] lfaraone: thanks. [16:02] hakermania: today i wrote a blog post. [16:05] bdrung: really? congrats then! [16:06] * ari-tczew is pleased when core-dev is also DD. cheers to bdrung and quadrispros [16:11] ari-tczew: yes, really. ;) look: http://packages.qa.debian.org/v/vlc/news/20101229T221850Z.html [16:15] can I use another way like debian/rules instead adding 99 patch? [16:15] ari-tczew: for what? [16:16] bdrung: lxpanel [16:16] 99 patch causing add patch debian-changes-* [16:17] bdrung: does this case mean that you're going to do more for Debian than Ubuntu? :> [16:18] ari-tczew: i will go on with my "debian first" approach. [16:19] ari-tczew: instead of 99-autotools.patch you could use dh-autoreconf [16:20] bdrung: what do you think, is it better way than 99 patch? [16:20] 99 patch always has to be updated [16:20] ari-tczew: if the packages uses dh, using dh-autoreconf may be simpler [16:21] bdrung: lxpanel uses dg [16:21] dh * [16:21] ari-tczew: then try dh-autoreconf [16:22] bdrung: should it be first or after override_dh_auto_configure: ? [16:22] I guess that 1st [16:23] ari-tczew: something like dh $@ --with dh_autoreconf should work [16:24] bdrung: does this change add also changes in files like 99 patch? [16:24] ari-tczew: it runs autoreconf and cleans up in the clean target [16:24] ari-tczew: you should drop the 99 patch [16:24] yep I know [16:30] bdrung: guess that should also B-D on dh-autoreconf right? [16:31] ari-tczew: yes [16:32] bdrung: fail. http://paste.ubuntu.com/548869/ [16:32] ari-tczew: man dh-autoreconf [16:35] bdrung: yeah, fixed ;) [16:53] bdrung: does that mean it won't work with dh8? [16:53] bdrung: yay for debian first! :) [16:54] ari-tczew: no, it'll work with dh 8. [16:55] bdrung: hm? [16:55] bdrung: man dh-autoreconf says dh --with autoreconf $@ where debhelper8 uses dh $@ --foo [16:55] was for sebner: [16:56] ari-tczew, sebner: use "dh $@ --with autoreconf" [16:56] bdrung: but lxpanel suses dh7 [16:56] uses* [16:57] bdrung: the manpage should have a note about that imho [16:57] ari-tczew: dh 7 allows both orders, but dh 8 will be more strict [16:57] Can't exec "autopoint": No such file or directory at /usr/share/autoconf/Autom4te/FileUtils.pm line 345. [16:58] autoreconf: failed to run autopoint: No such file or directory [16:58] ari-tczew: autopoint installed? [16:58] bdrung: in pbuilder? [16:58] B-D autopoint you mean? [16:58] ari-tczew: b-d? [17:01] bdrung: dh-autoreconf recommends autopoint though [17:37] hello, I am new to ubuntu [17:37] and try to follow the instruction given on Motu page [17:39] I Installed the all development tools. and installing the ubuntu development release [17:39] am I on right track ? [17:41] fat0ss: why not? [17:43] ari-tczew, I am asking because ..it was so easy like a "piece of cake" [17:43] fat0ss: now you can go ahead with development [17:44] ari-tczew, my connection speed is not so good.. I think it will take few hours to download the development release [17:45] fat0ss: perhaps [17:46] hmm, postfix should respect from address coming from mynetworks [17:46] grr, exceuse that [17:47] ari-tczew, after installing developer release..I can go directly to bug fixing ? [17:47] fat0ss: yes. already you can go with bug fixing. [17:47] !SRU | fat0ss [17:47] fat0ss: Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates [17:53] bdrung: is it possible that --with autoreconf creates debian-changes-* ? [17:53] or is it my fault? [17:58] what is wrong? http://paste.ubuntu.com/548881/ [18:15] bdrung: syncpackage-681693 is ready for some review [18:30] tumbleweed: can you help me? [18:37] ari-tczew: looks like you left out the part where the failure happened [18:37] tumbleweed: I added dh $@ --with autoreconf [18:37] now configure couldn't go ahead [18:50] /ping [18:50] :/ [18:55] ari-tczew: I mean the error happened before the lines you posted, it starts with "exit 1" [18:55] ari-tczew: as usual with configure, look in config.log [19:01] tumbleweed: config.log in pbuildeR? [19:01] yes [19:02] tumbleweed: i want online unittest for this branch. [19:03] bdrung: I'll bet. I can probably do some offline testing too [19:10] tumbleweed: where is config.log in pbuilder? [19:11] ari-tczew: in th edirectory it's building in. Set up a hook to open a shell if the build fails (there's an example hook that does that) [19:11] tumbleweed: is it on wiki? [19:11] in the package [19:14] ari-tczew: enjoy (I'm going out) [19:14] heh, thanks [19:29] fu** it, I'm not going finish it until new year [20:48] how can I allow a package to overwrite a file from anotherpackage so I do not get the error: tries to overwrite which has already been installed by package [20:49] c_korn: ad a diversion on the ol package's version of the file with dpkg-divert [20:49] add* old* [20:51] ah, this seems to be what I want [20:51] now I have to execute this at packaging time somehow [20:51] does it go to postinst ? [20:53] c_korn: actually, you have to be careful that the old package still works after that file is renamed [20:53] otherwise, just make your package conflict with it [20:54] hm, I will describe my problem more clearly: [20:57] it is the game urbanterror. is has a data package urbanterror-data which has its own tarball. and now there is the package urbanterror which contains the game's executable. but now there is a version of urbanterror which has an improved exe and I want to package it as urbanterror-optimized. this also includes some optimized game files which are in the urbanterror-data package. now I add a conflict to the urbanterror package and I also want [20:57] the package to allow to update some of the game content which has been installed by urbanterror-data [21:01] hmm [21:02] I would make urbanterror-optimized replace urbanterror, and add a diverison for the files in urbanterror-data that create a conflict [21:02] presumably, urbanterror-optimized doesn't need the old files anymore [21:11] yes, do I have to do this in postinst? [21:11] or is there a special config file [21:11] like package.links