[01:04] <nUboon2Age> hey y'all.  Jtatum, jledbetter and i are here at the Santa Cruz Coffee Roasting Co. for Lindependence/Ubuntu Hour.
[01:06] <jtatum> "santa cruz is neat"
[01:07] <jtatum> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jS33Qhdh8k
[01:14] <nUboon2Age> also see #lindependence
[01:16] <pleia2> jtatum: upgraded wordpress on u-ca, it was a nasty one
[01:16] <jtatum> doh
[01:16] <jtatum> thanks pleia2
[01:16] <pleia2> I skipped 3.0.3 because the fixes didn't apply to us
[01:16] <pleia2> but 3.0.4 was "critical"
[01:19] <nUboon2Age> pleia2, jtatum, i'm just curious, are we going to have any of our actual blogs on u-ca?
[01:19] <pleia2> nUboon2Age: http://planet.ubuntu-california.org/
[01:19] <pleia2> I don't have a link to your blog though
[01:19] <pleia2> those are all the ones from the Projects/Planet page you created
[01:20] <nUboon2Age> what i mean is whether we are going to not just link to but actually host any of our blogs on our site pleia2
[01:20] <pleia2> planet.ubuntu-california.org *is* our site, it runs on the linode
[01:20] <nUboon2Age> since you were discussing having wordpress
[01:21] <pleia2> ubuntu-california.org itself runs on wordpress
[01:21] <pleia2> if we want, we can make a blog, but based on discussions at meetings we already have 324323 places to update every time we have an event, adding a blog wasn't a popular suggestion
[01:21] <nUboon2Age> so if someone on the team wants to have a blog can they do it actually on our site pleia2?
[01:22] <pleia2> no, we can't really offer blog hosting on the ubuntu-us.org server
[01:22] <nUboon2Age> okay that's what i was guessing
[01:22] <pleia2> if someone wants to write articles on behalf of ubuntu-california like jdeslip's berkeleylug.com, that's different :)
[01:22] <nUboon2Age> i need to start a FLOSS blog
[01:23] <pleia2> wordpress.com accounts are free, we use one for ubuntuclassroom.wordpress.com, it's nice
[01:23] <nUboon2Age> good idea pleia2
[01:23] <nUboon2Age> or instead of an individual it could be a team blog pleia2
[01:23] <pleia2> yeah, it would have to be a team blog
[01:23] <nUboon2Age> it could be like an on-line newsletter. :-)
[01:23] <pleia2> we'd really need people to commit to writing weekly though, when loco blogs get stale people tend to think the team is dead, and that's bad :( I've seen it happen a lot
[01:25] <pleia2> it was a lot of work for me to keep ubuntupennsylvania.org updated, I didn't have a lot of help
[01:25] <pleia2> and ubuntu-us.org ... well, that's just sad, I really need more writers
[01:26] <nUboon2Age> yeah.  it kinda needs to be something that people do out of sheer enthusiasm.  when the time is right it'll get going
[01:26] <pleia2> yeah, so we should certainly keep the idea around for when people want to jump on it :)
[01:26] <rww> reminds me of podcast
[01:27] <nUboon2Age> it could become a project page at least.
[01:27] <pleia2> yeah, we can do that
[01:28] <nUboon2Age> re: the podcast my idea is that it be 'occasional'.  that is to say not on a schedule.  and maybe in shotcast format.  easier to get people to do things now and again and short, one-topic format.
[01:29] <nUboon2Age> then again it could be done in the Hacker Public Radio format.  whoever on the team does a podcast also posts it to the team podcast.
[01:29] <pleia2> it's also good if we can do the podcast in person, much easier to get together than deal with the technical issues that inevitably surround the creation of a podcast
[01:32] <nUboon2Age> well we might occasionally be able to do a podcast at an Ubuntu Hour. pleia2
[01:32] <pleia2> yeah, that's what I'm thinking :)
[01:37] <nUboon2Age> the location we are in for the Lindependence Hour tonight would be ideal since it is mostly isolated from the crowd noise but just enough to give some flavor.
[01:38] <jtatum> +1 for wordpress.com
[01:39] <jtatum> it's really well maintained
[01:39] <nUboon2Age> we're also typing onto the #lindependence channel for tonight's Lindependence Hour
[01:41] <nUboon2Age> The #lindependence channel is  dedicated to distro-agnostic Linux advocacy from what i can tell.
[01:47] <nUboon2Age> "Lindependence, liberating people one small town at a time with Linux and Free/Open Source Software"
[01:48] <nUboon2Age> larry cafiero and some others started events they called 'Lindependence Day' a few years back and the channel supports those events and other GNU/Linux advocacy.
[01:50] <nUboon2Age> Larry is AKA "Larry the free software guy" and here's a lindependence blog: http://lin08.wordpress.com/
[01:50] <jledbetter> and jledbetter finally unpacks the laptop. Yes, wordpress.com is awesome
[01:50] <nUboon2Age> and his Ubuntu Forums announcement of Lindependence Day: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=729582
[01:50]  * pleia2 just hangs out there to talk to larry :)
[01:51] <jledbetter> larry is cool eh?
[01:51] <nUboon2Age> and the web site: http://www.lindependence.net/
[01:52] <nUboon2Age> yeah, everyone come over to #lindependence and chat with larry the free software guy.  he had to go into work today or he'd be here with us. jledbetter
[01:52] <rww> ah, our long-running neglect of forums :(
[01:52] <jledbetter> openanimals...neat
[02:13] <nUboon2Age> my first encounter with Ubuntu was with the UbuntuForums
[02:14] <nUboon2Age> and for months that was my only venue
[02:14] <nUboon2Age> i had almost never used irc
[02:15] <nUboon2Age> i think i found the Ubuntu CA team through the forums even
[02:15] <nUboon2Age> and got tons 'o tek support through the forums
[02:16] <nUboon2Age> i even found the irc channels through the forums
[02:16] <nUboon2Age> i saw a note about #ubuntu-beginners
[02:16] <nUboon2Age> now i'm a regular participant in #ubuntu-beginners
[02:16] <jtatum> i just googled irssi ssl and the first hit is pleia2's site
[02:17] <rww> hehe. atoponce's blog has a habit of appearing in irssi Google queries too
[02:17] <jledbetter> I think I came through ubuntu-women
[02:18] <pleia2> yeah, irssi ssl is one of the biggest search terms for getting to my site
[02:18] <rww> I got to UW through an openweek presentation, I think. Gods only know how I got here.
[02:18] <jtatum> was trying to see if there was a command line param for it
[02:19] <jledbetter> rww, hehe
[02:19] <jtatum> i don't think i'll ever get to like irssi though. i get how a irssi genius could be really 'productive' with it though
[02:20] <jtatum> there's an emacs guru at the office. it's pretty awesome to watch
[02:20] <rww> I'm a lot more happy with it than other clients. I can see how most people (especially non-ops) wouldn't be.
[02:20] <pleia2> jtatum: heh, I'm in 86 channels on 8 or so networks, a gui client doesn't really cut it :\
[02:20] <jtatum> wow
[02:20] <jtatum> i will read your page more carefully in that case, pleia2
[02:21] <pleia2> if you want to see the channel names instead of numbers, there was a good post about it on the debian planet today
[02:21] <pleia2> http://www.die-welt.net/2010/12/because-people-asked-my-irssi-advanced-windowlist-setup/
[02:21] <jtatum> i've cut down to two networks, but feel pressure for more
[02:21] <rww> I went from two to one. Made things a lot less confusing.
[02:22] <jtatum> scratch that - i forgot about the work network
[02:22] <rww> "What do you mean, #ubuntu-california doesn't exist? Oh, wrong network. Again."
[02:22] <jtatum> three networks
[02:22] <pleia2> heh, it's easy to mix up oftc and freenode, similar channels
[02:22] <jtatum> brought the cr-48 out but it won't associate with this coffee shop network
[02:23] <pleia2> jtatum: sadness!
[02:23] <jtatum> it's a pretty great box. this is how unr should work
[02:23] <pleia2> I check my mailbox every day for a cr-48, none so far :(
[02:23]  * pleia2 keeps waiting
[02:24] <jtatum> aw
[02:24] <jtatum> can't someone pull some strings? hehe
[02:24] <jledbetter> the trackpad is ftl tho
[02:24] <jtatum> yeah that trackpad makes me want to throw it out the window
[02:24] <pleia2> jtatum: haha, actually today he was like "want me to talk to the team?"
[02:24] <rww> are there any good netbook trackpads?
[02:24] <jledbetter> the quick boot time makes me forgive its sins
[02:24] <jledbetter> rww, good point
[02:24] <pleia2> travel_mice++
[02:25] <jtatum> cr-48 isn't exactly a netbook but good point rww
[02:43] <jtatum> seidos is at noisebridge
[02:43] <jtatum> D:
[02:43] <seidos> i am.  which one are you jtatum?
[02:43] <jtatum> i'm the jtatum one
[02:43] <jtatum> not at noisebridge
[02:44] <seidos> how'd you know i was here?
[02:44] <rww> 02:42:47 -!- seidos [~seidos@nat-sonicnet.noisebridge.net] has joined #ubuntu-us-ca
[02:44] <seidos> haha
[02:44] <seidos> Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. —Pablo Picasso
[02:45] <seidos> i thought jtatum was the jim guy i met
[02:45] <pleia2> nah, the noisebridge/sflug jim is someone else
[02:46] <pleia2> I don't think he uses irc
[02:46] <rww> hrm, apparently it's 2am. I guess Linodes live in UTCland out of the box.
[02:49] <jtatum> seidos: your hostmask says noisebridge in it
[02:50] <seidos> drat, they kind of look the same
[02:50] <seidos> jtatum, yeah, rww mentioned it
[02:51] <jtatum> i still haven't been but really want to visit
[02:52] <jtatum> don't make it up to the city as much as i want to
[02:53] <rww> me either. BART needs to extend north ;P
[02:55] <jtatum> also south
[02:55] <seidos> i can represent you guys if you want.  i rode my bike here ^_^
[02:57] <rww> yup. Sacramento to San Jose would be nice.
[03:10] <jtatum> bart sj to sac would take how long? lol
[03:12] <pleia2> hehe
[03:12] <rww> I'd rather spend 2 hours on BART than 1 hour in traffic, though :\
[03:31] <jtatum> santa cruz meeting over :) good meeting
[03:31] <jtatum> right jledbetter ?
[03:31] <jledbetter> nUboon2Age says later
[03:31] <jledbetter> jtatum, fo shizzle
[03:33] <MarkDude> grantbow, are you going to Ubuntu hour tomorrow?
[04:18] <MarkDude> So I was wondering if anyone feels like volunteering for CLS on Jan 15th? https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AtBpBSQOLdKtdFRFMVp5LWJKaTZqVU01ZVkyang4VFE&hl=en&authkey=CI7Psq0C
[04:21] <MarkDude> And if folks have not signed up yet - http://clswest2011.eventbrite.com/ :)
[04:30] <nUboon2Age> Yeah!  The first Lindependence Hour in Santa Cruz was a success!  6 people (2 had to cancel last minute)
[04:30] <nUboon2Age> We forgot to take pictures
[04:30] <MarkDude> \m/
[04:31]  * MarkDude should have been there
[04:33] <akk> yay nUboon2Age
[04:39]  * MarkDude thinks that using social media can really help increase the numbers
[04:40] <MarkDude> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2424094/Demographics%20Cali%20Team.png
[04:40] <MarkDude> Demographics from the Teams FB
[05:58] <sn9> LOL, i just discovered that on a norwegian keyboard, if you try to type double quotes with shift-2 when your fingers are one off to the right, it comes out as <3
[20:03] <MarkDude> Rofl Carl from System76 is prolly going to send me a shirt and some stickers :D
[20:04]  * MarkDude feels the need to state that he was compensated by ZA as companies do with Executives when they leave. 
[20:06] <MarkDude> This was NOT a lack of $ thing on their part, nor was my pursuing other ventures a big acrimonious deal :)
[20:06]  * MarkDude has been asked lots of questions regarding this, and to head some more off, I will do another blog post
[22:25] <MarkDude> http://blogs.fedoraproject.org/wp/fifthpillar/2010/12/30/wow-some-of-you-folks-have-lots-of-questions-zareason-is-ok/
[22:25] <MarkDude> Post to clarify that all is well between myself and ZA :)